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Halo 2's "Ending"

November 15, 2004 96 | Comments (Closed)

Well, I’m pretty hacked off.

I picked up Halo 2 on Saturday and after about 5 hours playing it I’ve hit the crap that they try to pass off as an “ending.” Really, I wish I’d have known, I’d have rented it and saved myself $50.

See, I’m not all that into the multiplayer stuff, and I really enjoyed the first Halo’s campaign and story, so I was looking forward to the sequel. It’s a good game and it starts out with an interesting story, but it just kind of cuts off in the middle. I mean seriously, it just stops and credits start to roll. No resolution, too many questions, etc.

I sat there for a minute going, “no f’n way…”

I feel like they really, really botched this one. The game play isn’t all that different, the graphics pretty much the same and the levels as repetitive as ever. Add to that the worst ending ever and you’ve got just barely a so-so game.

Halo 2 doesn’t live up to the hype and unless you are really into online gaming my advice is rent it or pass on this one. Oh, and the gaming magazines that give Halo 2 a 10/10, or A+ or whatever…they must be smoking crack.

I’d give it 6/10, and I’d feel pretty generous about it.

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Comments

1. Kyle said:

I agree. I think if there was no original Halo this would have been a good (8/10) game. If I had to pick, I’d still go with the original based on a better single player story.

I do like the multiplayer, it’s really fun, but you’re right, they didn’t improve on much as far as gameplay and they really, really screwed up what seemed to be a fun campaign story.

Let’s face it, aside from everything it didn’t live up to the hype. Not even close. I’m like you, I’ll be renting Halo 3.

Posted on November 15, 2004 10:24 PM | #

2. Ian Firth said:

You should get Xbox Live and take some of that anger out on 12 year old punks :)

Posted on November 15, 2004 10:41 PM | #

3. Michael said:

Not being interested in Live either, also found Halo 2 to be very very disappointing :(

Posted on November 15, 2004 10:44 PM | #

4. Keith said:

Kyle – Yeah, I guess that comparing it to the original is what makes me think less of it. Were it standing on its own, it’d be a great game, with a horrible ending.

It’s fun, don’t get me wrong, but the way they just cut it off like that really sucks. It’s like having a movie reel break halfway through, that’s how jarring the end was. The game feels half finished.

And really, it doesn’t seem all that different than the first. They say it’s an all new graphic engine, but it looks, plays, feels very similar to me.

I’m sure those into online gaming will love the game, but those of us who want a good story with our games will find this one a huge disappointment.

I don’t play many games, but I can think of quite a few (Fable, Prince of Persia, Ninja Gaiden, Riddick, Sly Cooper, The Suffering, THUG 2) that I’ve had more fun playing that this one.

And to me it’s all about fun.

Posted on November 15, 2004 10:44 PM | #

5. Brady White said:

Try it on legendary my friend, try it on legendary. There’s plenty of levels to unlock, and secrets to find.

The joy of Halo is going up to your buddies and saying that you’ve beaten it solo on Legendary, not the crappy Ending on the easiest setting.

Sell it to me if you’re the desparate of giving it out. I’ll find a home that wants it ;)

Posted on November 15, 2004 11:40 PM | #

6. Jason Marble said:

Shit man, five hours? I haven’t played this game yet, but five hours? In the reviews they were saying that they had a good 2-3 hours of cinematics! But, an ending is an ending. That really sucks man. I’m probly not gonna buy it. I’ll just enjoy the multiplayer over at my buddy’s.

But, on another note, have you played GTA San Andreas? Holly shit man! If anyone can bust that out in a day, they are gods in my book. I love the GTA games, ALWAYS have.

Posted on November 16, 2004 12:19 AM | #

7. Robbert Broersma said:

IMHO the largest negative point of consoles is that you can’t upgrade them. That’s why the graphics don’t really improve over time. So I bought myself a laptop with a ATi Radeon 9600 that even enables me to play Doom 3. (Installing the demo was as simple as typing ‘emerge doom3_demo’ on this Gentoo system – now that’s easy!)

Posted on November 16, 2004 01:34 AM | #

8. uninvited said:

The problem with most so called ‘reviews’ is that the editor really hasn’t finished the game by far. So they generally write down their first thoughts about the game which are too influenced by hype, excitement, etc.

As for Halo 2, with a campaign that’s this short it really hurts spending 50$ for a mere 5 hours. But you won’t hear those big review sites telling you to rent rather than buying it if you’re not much into multiplayer gaming.

Posted on November 16, 2004 02:49 AM | #

9. Aleksandar said:

I was also playing games in single player for years, until the Age of Empires came out and later on Age of Kings.
I was playing on Zone.com and after 5 years I still do occasionaly. It is unexplainably more fun than single player, to the point that I did not even touched the campaigns in AoK (and its Conquerors expansion) for the first three years.

You owe it your self to try it sometimes. I never liked FPS games too much, but you never know.

Posted on November 16, 2004 03:38 AM | #

10. seth said:

Well, you just saved me about $250, give or take.

I’ve got a Playstation2 and was very seriously considering buying an XBox just to play Halo 2. I played the first one a bunch of times on friends’ consoles, and really liked it. But, if this one isn’t that much different, and has the silly, quick ending, forget it.

If you don’t have any experience with the GTA series, I would give it a try. If you do (and you like it), then you won’t be disappointed with GTA San Andreas (or atleast it won’t end anywhere near as fast Halo 2). I’ve played it for 5 hours already and haven’t even played a real “mission” because there is so much other random stuff you can do.

Posted on November 16, 2004 04:50 AM | #

11. Jason G said:

Makes me feel better about not having an XBOX and missing out. I actually found the first Halo disappointing. I just don’t get into first person shooters the way I used to.

Funny you mentioned THUG2 in you list, I actually felt very similar about that game in relation to THUG to the way you feel about HALO/HALO2. I thought THUG2 was easier and much shorter than THUG. I beat THUG2 on sick in far less time than it took me to beat THUG on sick mode. I still have to finish up classic mode on sick in THUG2, but classic mode has not kept my interest (GTA: San Andreas came out, and, well …). The story mode in THUG is far better than the one in THUG2.

Posted on November 16, 2004 05:23 AM | #

12. Ian Gordon said:

Actually Halo 2 was just meant to address people’s desire for Multiplayer action. This being the case, all the hard work went into making it so. The single story campaign took a huge hit because of this and the storyline sucks.

I think if they were smart they would have worked on the storyline first making sure it sync’d up with the first one and gave a good conclusion. Then added all the multiplayer crap. I have to be honest I am not really a multiplayer person, I am more into solo missions.

Posted on November 16, 2004 05:42 AM | #

13. Callum Alden said:

5 hours. Well, it’s all okay now because Half-Life 2 is here. I expect it was as bad an ending as Opposing Force. Which I’ve strolled through over the weekend, the game (if your not familiar) ends with ‘The Administrator’ telling you you’re going to be detained, until further merchan- i mean notice. HL2, they had better got a good story down for this baby. Right?

Posted on November 16, 2004 05:44 AM | #

14. uninvited said:

What i’ve read so far is that HL2 leaves a lot of questions unanswered during the game, and it doesn’t reveal many of the ones left over from the first game. (“Half-Life 2 feels like the middle chapter in a much larger story, and it suffers as a result.”)

Nevertheless, i just want to pick up my jaw from the table when i immerge myself in the game tonight. (read: see their source engine in action)

Posted on November 16, 2004 06:03 AM | #

15. Joshua said:

A whopping 5 hours of gameplay? I suppose that would at least provide for an evening of entertainment. I did enjoy the campaign of the original Halo, but tended to avoid the repetitive Capture the Flag multiplayer madcap. Not enthralled with the multiplayer demo, I am waiting for your review of Men of Valor before I make any committment. Kindly have that ready by Friday morning!

Posted on November 16, 2004 07:04 AM | #

16. Web said:

Yeah I was looking to buy Halo2, this is the 2nd or 3rd review I read like this .. so now I will be renting.

San Andreas may be the most fun I have had on a console game in ages. Maybe since FF1 (Final Fantasy 1)

Pick up San Andreas if your looking to invest 4 weeks of your life in after work - beer drinking - pimtastic fun.

Thanks Keith for saving me $50 .. now all’s left to do is pay of that late fee at blockbuster.

Posted on November 16, 2004 07:06 AM | #

17. ColdForged said:

Oh please don’t tell me that. I’m some part of the way through the game on Heroic – it has already been longer than five hours for me, probably close on nine – at the Orbital Drop Assault level and having fun. Now you have me exceedingly concerned.

Please Bungie, don’t forsake us!

Posted on November 16, 2004 07:27 AM | #

18. Scrivs said:

Meh, everyone here should’ve expected that type of ending simply because Microsoft needs a Halo 3 for XBOX2. Still a fun game and multiplayer rocks the house. If you haven’t tried it you have to give it a go. Totally different than other multiplayer games for a number of reasons. To make it short, you get matched up with people of your own skill level so you are not running around getting your ass handed to you by “professionals”.

Posted on November 16, 2004 07:35 AM | #

19. Josh Dura said:

Halo 1 was a genious video game. It would be EXTREMELY hard to top it. I didn’t play either series, but the few times I played it, I thought it was really well thought out, and the graphics were amazing, even for a game that is 2 years old. It would be really hard for Halo 2 to out-do Halo 1.

When I played Halo 2, the first thing I thought, was “Whats different?”. Sure, the vehicles, and the levels, but does that REALLY justify all this hype? I couldn’t agree with you more Keith.

Posted on November 16, 2004 07:49 AM | #

20. Keith said:

re: Legendary – There is no way I’m going to replay the same repetitive levels on a harder setting. I used normal last time. As well, I’ve heard the ending / unlockable levels aren’t really anything different or better. I’ve also heard they are definatley not worth replay on legendary. ANYway, I’m not looking for easter eggs, I want a proper ending to the story.

re: GTA SA – I’ve never been into the GTA series. At best it was a novelty for me, but I do have a PS2 so maybe I’ll rent it and see if I like it. Then again I’d like to play LOTR 3rd age, so maybe that’s next.

re: THUG2 – This game might not be hard (I bet it’s more of a challenge than Halo) but it’s fun.

re: Halo 2 multiplayer – I’ll give it a shot, but to be honest I’m just not really into that stuff. I get bored pretty quick. I’m sure it’s great, but I was really looking forward to the story…

Posted on November 16, 2004 08:09 AM | #

21. Dave P said:

Come on folks… I thought we were kids of the cynical age. Halo 2:

Sequel: Check
Massive Marketing Machine: Check
Limited Preview Potential: Check
Platform tie in: Check
Video game Launch Events: Check

=

Overhyped Average Experience.

Remember that conversation on brands the other day? Yeah, this is a perfect example of why I’ve got some serious issues with them

(Sorry Kieth, Thanks for letting me rant.)

Posted on November 16, 2004 09:03 AM | #

22. jimmyd said:

All you need is Call of Duty for PC…I’ve played that darn near every day since it came out and never get tired of it.

Call of Duty…it’s all you need!! :)

Posted on November 16, 2004 09:04 AM | #

23. Keith said:

Dave – this has nothing to do with branding…the game itself is very good, and most folks would really like it. For me, the story part isn’t there…

jimmyd – Call of Duty is not my type of game…Oh and I don’t have a PC. I’m sure it’s great though.

Posted on November 16, 2004 09:17 AM | #

24. Keith said:

Oh, and Dave, if anything this proves the value of branding. Halo 2 sold ridiculously well.

Posted on November 16, 2004 09:21 AM | #

25. Roger Johansson said:

Thanks for the info. I was really close to buying an Xbox just to get my hands on Halo 2. Now I don’t have to. I’ll have a look at the game when/if it comes to the Mac or PS2.

Posted on November 16, 2004 09:34 AM | #

26. Dave P said:

Keith: I know it sold well, and I’ve never said that branding doesn’t work, it’s just that sometimes the whole experience is a little deceptive, that’s all. But I digress, big time.

As for the game being good:

Oh, and the gaming magazines that give Halo 2 a 10/10, or A+ or whatever�€�they must be smoking crack.

On a positive note, Battlefield 1942 is a great game (although only for multiplayer - so you may not like it), and available for Mac. I’d second Call of Duty or Medal of hounor, both available for mac or xbox as well.

Oh, and don’t forget Halflife 2, out this week.

Posted on November 16, 2004 09:41 AM | #

27. Taco John said:

While I believe that San Andreas is the greatest video game ever, it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Insanely violent, vulgar lanaguage, crude sexual references. I recommend the GTA series to people, but I expect some of them to come back and either a) say they just couldn’t handle it or b) tell me they were insulted I would even suggest they play that “piece of lowball, obscene trash.” So I understand how it is not the end-all be-all of video games for many people like it is for me.

Secondly, even fanboys like me will admit that sometimes the game just gets frustrating. Like the dating. Or right before you arrive at the point for the next mission, a gang territory comes under attack. After you get a warning telling you CJ needs to eat at an incredibly inoppertune moment for the 10th time, it starts to wear a bit. The next GTA really needs options to choose the level of immersiveness of the game play.

All that being said, I offer this: The first thing I did when I got the game was check to see if cheat codes worked. They did, and worked “better” than before ($250,000 every time you did a now-combined health/armor cheat). Even with copious amounts of cheating it took me 49 hours of gameplay to finish the main story line missions, which ended up at less than 70% completion. Now I’m starting all over again and am determined to finish the game without cheating, although certain missions seemed like daunting tasks even when I was regenerating health about every 30 seconds. And yes, I’m sorry I’m a cheater. It really ruined the game.

Posted on November 16, 2004 10:18 AM | #

28. Josh Dura said:

On a positive note, Battlefield 1942 is a great game

Hell yeah, BF1942 and BFV are quite possibly the 2 best games ever. Don’t forget about the Desert Combat and PoE mods either :)

Posted on November 16, 2004 11:23 AM | #

29. Dave Woodward said:

I’ve played Halo 1 multiplayer a few times and although it was fun, I couldn’t really see what all the hype was about. Then Halo 2 is announced, and I really wondered what all the fuss was about. Ever since Quake 3, all the FPS games have seemed the same to me with just the addition of one or two little gimmicks. And although I really like GTA:SA, it still is just more of the same. Now the game I’m really looking forward to wasting my time with is Gran-Turismo 4. I spent months playing Gran-Turismo 3.

On the topic of consoles, I think some of the most original games have been released for the Nintendo Gamecube. Thats just my observation, and I’m not going to qualify it because I don’t have enough room.

Posted on November 16, 2004 11:30 AM | #

30. Seth Thomas Rasmussen said:

Agreed on all counts, except for the ending thing because I haven’t played it.

But yeah… when I first sat down to play this game at my buddy’s place, I thought, “this is it?”

They DRASTICALLY improved some of the menus/interfaces/etc. in the game though. Big kudos on that. ESPECIALLY the game setup screen. The way it’s easy to adjust things all from that one screen as opposed to the tiresome back and forth of the Halo 1 is nice. Other than that… meh x 10.

Posted on November 16, 2004 02:04 PM | #

31. Allen said:

Whatever all of you——legendary IS worth playing through again, 5 hours is ridiculous unless you just ran through on an easyish difficulty, and with the exception of the cliffhanger ending, this is the best game I’ve ever seen. (Yeah, I’ve played the GTA series, including SA) Sorry if you “aren’t into” multiplayer, but it’s unbelievable and the matchmaking system is amazing. Having beaten it on Heroic and working on Legendary, I’d shell out $100+ for Halo2.

Posted on November 16, 2004 02:29 PM | #

32. jake said:

Hmm… My brother has it and I haven’t gotten a chance to play it yet. I kinda hope that the joystiq thing doesn’t happen. My parents won’t let my brother (who’s only 14) get xbox live so if they try and pull something akin to the Ninja Gaiden downloads he’s screwed. I think I’d be more ticked off because of that, but I’m a protective older brother who doesn’t like to watch companies force my siblings into paying extra money after serving up something half assed.

Posted on November 16, 2004 04:20 PM | #

33. Chris Vincent said:

I only played the original for the multiplayer, and only when it came out on the Mac.

If I’m pissed over Halo about one thing, it’s the fact that an exchange of money changed it from a Mac exclusive to an XBOX exclusive and Mac 2-year-delay.

And some of the guns in the original. Come on, a 30 degree cone of fire on an assault rifle of the future? And why are our future sniper rifles *slower* than the ones we have today?

Meh.

Posted on November 16, 2004 04:23 PM | #

34. Jason Berry said:

Did you play it on easy or something?

Go legendary or at the very least heroic.

You can then take your 5 hours and at the very least double it.

Posted on November 16, 2004 04:47 PM | #

35. paul b said:

I agree with Brady White. If you dont like halo 2 because of the ending then so be it try it on legandary.

I like the ending of halo 2, it just lets me no that there will be a halo 3.Also if you watch the entire credits you’ll find out something better.

Posted on November 16, 2004 04:53 PM | #

36. Keith said:

re: Legendary ending. I’ve read that it’s no different, just harder to get to. I saw the “teaser” at the end of the credits, and sure I’ll rent Halo 3 to see how it turns out, but…

Why in the heck would I want to replay the already repetitive game on a harder level just to unlock some easter eggs (like the multiplayer map)…?

I want to have fun, not bore the heck out of myself doing the same thing over and over again.

Posted on November 16, 2004 05:29 PM | #

37. Joshua said:

I was a little shocked about the ending as well. However, if I remember right, I beat Halo 1 in about the same amount of time - and the ending was just the same - leaving you wondering what the heck is going to happen next. I also remember setting it on legendary and then Halo 1 quickly became my favorite game with much more then 5 hours of game play on the hardest level. Likely to happen with Halo 2 as well.

What kind of game would Halo 2 be if it did not leave you anticipating for Halo 3… it really makes you wonder what is in for Master Chief and our new hero - the Orbital. If everyone is disapointed because of the ending - what did you expect - don’t you remember the first Halo.

I think the big misconception is that Halo 1 came out with Xbox, so there was no waiting…. we waited 3 years for part two…. so many of us are left somewhat damper because we realize it could be another 3 years to find out what happens next.

Does anyone remember waiting for xBox to come out back even 6 years ago. Heck … Fable has been in works for about 5 years (previously known as Project Ego). Halo 1 was being worked on long before Xbox came out. Almost the same amount of time.

My 2 cents - incredible game - I don’t care what people say, I have been playing both Halo 1 and 2 - back to back - much better graphics…. and thank god game play was the same. I now have lot of fun left by setting it to Legendary. Plus tha AI is much improved and really gives me a challeng on Legendary.

Posted on November 16, 2004 08:24 PM | #

38. Brian Rose said:

I had a similar disappointment with the game - luckily, Live tied me over a bit until Half-Life 2 came out.

Here is my advice: download Half-Life 2 and play the living hell out of it. I’m only about four hours in, but this game kicks the crap out of Halo 2 hands down. To say the least, it has redefined first-person gaming as a whole for me.

Posted on November 17, 2004 04:48 AM | #

39. Kev said:

Warning: contains spoilers.

Well, I haven’t got to the end yet (playing on ‘normal’) but so far I’m really enjoying it. I thought the idea of playing as an Elite was inspired and in fact that whole section has been my favourite section so far. The power sword cuts through The Flood like a hot knife trhough butter ;o)

I am concerned about the ending as I know its sudden but what the hell. Taken in isolation, this is a great game. Looking forward to Halo 3 :o) and now awaiting HL2 to complete the trifecta of brilliant FPS sequels this year.

Posted on November 17, 2004 08:06 AM | #

40. Web said:

I was in Toronto this weekend. And I was just walking downtown with my friends. And I met Halo 2 action robot. We took pictures with him :) It looked like a real one. All plastic, same size and all that. There was of course a human inside the suite, but non the less, it was pretty cool!

Posted on November 17, 2004 08:46 AM | #

41. ColdForged said:

Being the consummate Bungie whore I am, I do have to say that I’m still enjoying the single-player portion. Multi is a whole other ball game and – to me – is the quintessential Xbox Live experience to date.

That said, from the brief time I’ve had with it, I’d have to say I’m enjoying Half-Life 2’s single-player game over that of Halo 2. I cringe to even admit it to myself.

It is definitely worth checking out.

Posted on November 17, 2004 09:55 AM | #

42. Tyler said:

Wow… Halo 2 is amazing game. I did buy an xbox just so i could play it. It is so easy to setup a LAN with ur friends. You can have screaming fun for hours. Halo 2 is about the multiplayer and thats why it sold so much. The campaign did lack some but thats not what its about. If you want an unbelievably long story play Xenosaga for PS2 or read a book. Xbox live is sweet but LAN is yelling fun.

Posted on November 17, 2004 04:02 PM | #

43. Steve_0 said:

Halo 2 kicks ass as a multiplayer game, I think we all agree with that. I’m kinda dissapointed with the ending so far.

I beat the game in heroic with a friend of mine cuz legendary mode is extremely difficult(even for 2 halo semi-pro’s i’d say). But know that i have the last level opened I’ll definatley try it on legendary to see what the other ending is all about. Plus I also wanna check out the other map.

I guess for halo fans Halo 2 does deserves the 10 out of 10 just as the first one did. I don’t regret getting the xbox just to have the halo games.

Posted on November 17, 2004 09:38 PM | #

44. Robert said:

So Keith, did I hear you right? You DID see the teaser at the end of the credits? What exactly did it say? This is a big point of contention among those who think that something BIG is going to happen soon. Or not.

Some people say they saw it, some say they didn’t. Other than finishing Legendary myself (which might take a while), I don’t know who to believe, but I suppose I’d trust your word.

Posted on November 18, 2004 10:22 AM | #

45. Keith said:

Robert – I did see it, but I didn’t read anything BIG into it.

***SPOILER***

It just shows Cortana being interrogated by the “tenticle” thing and it looks like she is going to spill some beans…it’s pretty vague if you ask me.

Posted on November 18, 2004 10:37 AM | #

46. travis ray said:

I haft to agree with the main guy, Who creates a sequal to a game that is worst then the orignal, I am completly shocked. who in their right mind would make that kind of ending. However I would give a good rating for the multiplayer mode just because it has a lot of extremly detailed levels and you have a different varity of teams. my rating for the game is a 7/10 and the only reason I give them that is based on the fact that the multiplayer mode saved them.

Posted on November 18, 2004 11:05 AM | #

47. u kno me said:

halo 2 has to be the best game in the worl (along wiht SAN ANDREAS) but u people ranting about how much the stryline sucks is stuoid. i mena seriously if u honestly think that u bought this game for the storyline is dumb. and whoever said that they are not gonna replay the game is stupid. i mena ya the ending may suck but just because of that doesnt mena u should tell people not to buy the game

“THE VERDICT
GRAPHICS:
Spectactular scenes, deep unbeleivable textures, and powerful use of bloom effects for explosions and impacts.
IMMERSION:
Unless nature calls, my guess is that you’ll be glued to the screen from start to finish (12-16 hours on normal) without a break. Now that’s immersive!
SOUND:
The ambient effects are incredible in 5.1, but the underlying score adds a layer of intensity to every scene that’s simply incredible. The soundtrack album will win awards, and will hopefully transcend the videogame industry to bigger mainstream appreciation.
DESIGN:
Perfectly paced, the story gets a little rushed, and you definately feel like you’ve played bits of this before…only it never looked or sounded this good, or had so many fun options.
(+)GOOD
(-)BAD
(?)PERPLEXING

+ Can’t rave enough about the music.
+ Incredible replay value packed in with multiplayer.
+ Incredible attention to all details.
- The end.
? Any chance we’ll get any single-player downloadable content? that’d be sweet but highly unlikely.

OFFICIAL XBOX MAGAZINE VERDICT:
9.7/10.00
EDITORS CHOICE!”

anybody that askes if the game is good or not must have been born yesterday and that game is the sick-nastyest game in the whole world

i doubt there will be any other game that will veer beat it untill halo 3 comes out
which (hopefully it will cause that would be sick-nasty) and so we can see allex freak out again

and i have notheing else to say except for that ALO IS THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD AND ITS SO SICK-NASTY

I appreciate your opinions, but I would have to say it is a baised one. First off, I don’t understand your opinion that the first halo was a better game. Halo 2 is far superior, especially in the story department. I don’t know how much you actually played halo’s campaign, or how much you accurately remember, but most of the cutscenes were limited in action and setting, with most all of the dialog delivered by 2-3 characters……………Keyes, Cortana…….and sometimes the chief. another major revelation in halo 2’s story is all of the covenant political backstory. It alone double’s the game’s authenticy by giving the enemies a realistic atmosphere and feel. Most of the Covenant themed cutscenes and levels answer hundreds of plot questions once speculated on by halo 1 owners. How does the Covenant hierarchy function, where do the covenant originate? How do they operate? and countless other interesting points.
The campaign itself is much more expansive and overall….fun. the presentation through double storylines works very well, and it gives two different sides to the story, along with giving the player a better understanding of the conflict.

“I was kind of disappointed about the direction that the campaign went sure there was some awesome cool cutscenes and there were some cool game play times but overall as one of the creators said ” you have to capture those thirty second moments where the game play is awesome” well I’m sorry but there weren’t enough of those moments for the amount of time that they spent on the game.”-birdman

I can count on one hand the truly awesome sequences from the first halo….well, maybe two. but when looking at halo 2, I can think of 3-5 awesome battles or sequences per level (30 seconds of awesomeness…………except they all lasted a couple of minutes in Halo 2 ), areas that really impressed me and were really enjoyable.
So far I have beat the game on normal and heroic, no co-op, and I think it’s a really great story, and it leads to a great experience and game. Their is so much to take in and understand, if you don’t know what I mean, go back and watch a cutscene again, or listen to one of the covenant transmissions again, and you will see what I mean. When I played the game through again on heroic, I noticed quite a lot of plot points I had missed the first time around. Even in the levels themselves the detail on certain objects and terrain is incredible. Did you even stop by one of those hologram prophets and listen to what they say, or look around at the environments at all? Most of them have little touches, here and there, that help push the story on, or help explain something you might not understand.

As for replayability, every time you load up an area, especially on different diffuculties, enemies act differently, with different force dispositions. It leads to a more fluid gameplay experience than one is accostomed to in shooters (I know it did this in halo 1, but the A.I. is far superior this time around). And, as I said, every time I play an area again, I notice something different, or hear a character say something cool, or board something new, or get boarded…..or….yeah, long list of fun things that change from scenario to scenario. If you think gameplay gets stale after one or two play-throughs, try going at each area from an entirely new angle, whether that means using diferent weapons, different vehicles, or taking another route, so be it. It will play out much different than it did with your other strategy.

Overall, I think you are passing judgement much too quickly, seeing as you’ve only played it through once. And I know that you think that I have more reason to appreciate the game because I have Xbox Live, but realize that I have played as much campaign as multiplayer, if not more….

The story is what separates great games from the mediocre. It’s one of the driving forces behing innovative game design: to tell a story. In fact the single player of any game is bbuilt around that theme. look att a game that was built to be fun……say Quake. Now, look at a game made to tell a story….say Halo or Half-life. Which do you think is more enjoyable? The main reason I don’t like Quake or unreal tournaments isn’t because they are unrealistic twitchy shooters, it’s that they seem pointless to me……I mean, come on no story, no interesting plot? what is that?

I’d suggest you think about that a while, and then go read some interviews with bungie staff, you’ll see that they are dedicated to creating a story for people to experience, not just agame that is fun. It’s the whole point of an awesome game.


and now im done thanks

consder all of that…

Posted on November 18, 2004 11:27 AM | #

48. Robert said:

Keith: Reading back, I see you didn’t play on Legendary and do not intend to. Supposedly, if you beat the game on Legendary (all levels), you see a message at the end of the credits “Coming Tuesday, February 9th”.

Now the next Feb. 9th that falls on a Tuesday is in 2010, so I don’t know what to make of it…unless of course, someone meant next February and simply forgot that this year is a leap year.

Like I said, some claim to have seen this, some claim it isn’t there. I just wonder if this might have something to do with the “rest of the game” that so many people feel cheated out of. And yes, I know Bungie has already claimed this to be nothing more than a rumor, but would they really tip their hand if they had something special in store for us?

Posted on November 18, 2004 12:06 PM | #

49. john tilley said:

the game was awesome, yet when I beat it, I didn’t even get any credits…wtf. I’m an extreme fan of the story line, and I was left hanging. Just cause you can make the best game ever doesn’t give you the right to make us wait another 3-5 years to find out whats next.

Posted on November 18, 2004 01:05 PM | #

50. Brian Behrend said:

I really had no urge to even get it at all, I hated the first one and I generally dislike all FPS. But a coworker talked me into getting it and playing him on Xbox Live and I must say I’m hooked.

The ease of use and the features/modes available on Live really make it an awesome experience. If you already have a Live account you should definitely check it out.

Posted on November 18, 2004 02:03 PM | #

51. mcf said:

Dudes,

The ending of this game makes me feel like my parents walking in in the middle of a below average chicken choke. Why! Basically the original Halo was so good because of the story and orchestrated ending. If I want a great skin I’ll just play Chronicles of Riddick, which by the way is my new favorite game. Fhruck Halo 2 man!

Peace,

Posted on November 19, 2004 07:10 AM | #

52. graham said:

Well i thought that halo 2 was really really awsome. I thought that every campaign level was better and i jus simply think it is an awsome game. The multiplayer is amazing i think and xbox live is teh bomb. The ending wasnt that good…like u could of atleast battled on earth for a little at the end and he should of saved earth…like bungie is sooooo sure that halo 2 would be a huge hit which it was so their keeping us waiting for another 4 years for halo 3 which will most likely be on xbox 2. But dat is all i have 2 say and i think that the game is awsome…the only bad thing was the ending…other then that…GOOD JOB BUNGIE

Posted on November 19, 2004 09:35 AM | #

53. Pimpson said:

yeah i aint gonna lie i didn’t see much of a difference in halo2,and the graphics did look the same…BUT! i like the halo xbox live! and u would 2…so stop hatin on halo damn it

Posted on November 20, 2004 10:45 AM | #

54. El said:

Really, look at the graphics again, it’s a totally better looking game, they got the edgy lines looking a lot nicer and the general detail is well high. This is much better than the three or four games that it follows.

The ending is a bit poor unless you finish it on Legendary the same as the first Halo but it’s still a very good game. 9/10

Posted on November 20, 2004 01:32 PM | #

55. Normary said:

Halo 2 had a very sucky ending but it still was a great game! The characters features are better,your allies are realistic(like the latino guy that starts yelling “Diablo” at the top of lungs) and it leaves you wanting more which is what a game should do. And we have to consider most of us didn’t stop playing the game until we passed it not that many enjoyed the ride.

Posted on November 20, 2004 08:20 PM | #

56. jebus said:

to all the people who dont like halo 2 cause the ending left a lot of questions unanswered, your all retarted. Halo2 was short but the levels were really long, and the creators meant to make the ending so short its a way of building suspense and leaving things to the imagination, plus that ending pretty much gaurentees that there will be a Halo 3 so if you dont like it play multi player with friends.

Posted on November 21, 2004 05:16 AM | #

57. siguro_7 said:

d*rn it!!!! in every game i play, id get very happy finishing that… after all the hard work and stuffs like that, but when i got to the end of halo 2.. i got very very very very very disappointed… as i was reading the credits, i was still hoping that there will be another chapter or so… my brother was laughing at me telling me dont expect too much bro… hahahhahahhahhahaha.. but, dam**t… thats all??? im not freakin’ satisfied… what happen to the HALO 2 E3 2003 TRAILER in xbox.com???? where is it.. i was expecting to play that one… but i never even saw it in halo 2.. yes it was a good one, and new stuffs where included… but im really freakin about the ending…. thought i could consider halo an extra ordinary game but not it was just a really ORDINARY game that there would be no meaning of owning one…. well.. that would be it… i really feel bad..

Posted on November 21, 2004 06:29 PM | #

58. mb said:

As pointed out numerous amounts of times, the game is built for multiplayer. Sure people will play the single player version of the game, but they will spend many more hours playing it multiplayer. Because of this, the game is built more for multiplayer than single player. The customizing of your guy is a huge plus over Halo and is just one example of why Halo 2 is on par with Halo overall.

Since the ending is the main issue here, I look at it as I do the original Star Wars trilogy. Lucas went in and made the first movie planning on a trilogy, but not knowing if he was going to get a chance to do it. Star Wars is a stand alone movie much like Halo is a stand alone game. Once Lucas had the green light for a trilogy, he didn’t need to make the ending for The Empire Strikes Back neat and clean. It actually left many people wanting the so called happy ending that didn’t happen until Return of the Jedi. The same goes for Halo 2. Let’s be honest, they knew that unless Halo 2 was the biggest bomb of all time they were going to make Halo 3. Break up the plotline over two games and save yourself from creatng a whole new plotline for Halo 3.

Here’s some of the things that really do stand out to me. Dual weapons. Stealing and having your vehicle stolen. Some of the best music for a game ever. Playing the other side which is a definite “No freaking way” moment when it first happens that leaves you wanting to call your buddy up to talk about it, but you can’t because he hasn’t gotten that far yet.

I am also curious as to how you completed it in 5 hours though. The reviews I have seen with people completing the game fall in the area of 12-14 hours. I think my friend took about that long and I’ll be slightly behind him when I’m done. Is that still short? Yes, very much so, but it’s not 5 hours.

For the record, I’m more of a single player versus multiplayer kind of gamer and FPS games don’t really rank that high on my list. I would much rather play RPG’s, strategy, and adventure games.

Posted on November 22, 2004 03:04 PM | #

59. u kno me said:

appreciate your opinion, but I would have to say it is a baised one. First off, I don’t understand your opinion that the first halo was a better game. Halo 2 is far superior, especially in the story department. I don’t know how much you actually played halo’s campaign, or how much you accurately remember, but most of the cutscenes were limited in action and setting, with most all of the dialog delivered by 2-3 characters……………Keyes, Cortana…….and sometimes the chief. another major revelation in halo 2’s story is all of the covenant political backstory. It alone double’s the game’s authenticy by giving the enemies a realistic atmosphere and feel. Most of the Covenant themed cutscenes and levels answer hundreds of plot questions once speculated on by halo 1 owners. How does the Covenant hierarchy function, where do the covenant originate? How do they operate? and countless other interesting points.
The campaign itself is much more expansive and overall….fun. the presentation through double storylines works very well, and it gives two different sides to the story, along with giving the player a better understanding of the conflict.

“I was kind of disappointed about the direction that the campaign went sure there was some awesome cool cutscenes and there were some cool game play times but overall as one of the creators said ” you have to capture those thirty second moments where the game play is awesome” well I’m sorry but there weren’t enough of those moments for the amount of time that they spent on the game.”-birdman

I can count on one hand the truly awesome sequences from the first halo….well, maybe two. but when looking at halo 2, I can think of 3-5 awesome battles or sequences per level (30 seconds of awesomeness…………except they all lasted a couple of minutes in Halo 2 ), areas that really impressed me and were really enjoyable.
So far I have beat the game on normal and heroic, no co-op, and I think it’s a really great story, and it leads to a great experience and game. Their is so much to take in and understand, if you don’t know what I mean, go back and watch a cutscene again, or listen to one of the covenant transmissions again, and you will see what I mean. When I played the game through again on heroic, I noticed quite a lot of plot points I had missed the first time around. Even in the levels themselves the detail on certain objects and terrain is incredible. Did you even stop by one of those hologram prophets and listen to what they say, or look around at the environments at all? Most of them have little touches, here and there, that help push the story on, or help explain something you might not understand.

As for replayability, every time you load up an area, especially on different diffuculties, enemies act differently, with different force dispositions. It leads to a more fluid gameplay experience than one is accostomed to in shooters (I know it did this in halo 1, but the A.I. is far superior this time around). And, as I said, every time I play an area again, I notice something different, or hear a character say something cool, or board something new, or get boarded…..or….yeah, long list of fun things that change from scenario to scenario. If you think gameplay gets stale after one or two play-throughs, try going at each area from an entirely new angle, whether that means using diferent weapons, different vehicles, or taking another route, so be it. It will play out much different than it did with your other strategy.

Overall, I think you are passing judgement much too quickly, seeing as you’ve only played it through once. And I know that you think that I have more reason to appreciate the game because I have Xbox Live, but realize that I have played as much campaign as multiplayer, if not more….

The story is what separates great games from the mediocre. It’s one of the driving forces behing innovative game design: to tell a story. In fact the single player of any game is bbuilt around that theme. look att a game that was built to be fun……say Quake. Now, look at a game made to tell a story….say Halo or Half-life. Which do you think is more enjoyable? The main reason I don’t like Quake or unreal tournaments isn’t because they are unrealistic twitchy shooters, it’s that they seem pointless to me……I mean, come on no story, no interesting plot? what is that?

I’d suggest you think about that a while, and then go read some interviews with bungie staff, you’ll see that they are dedicated to creating a story for people to experience, not just agame that is fun. It’s the whole point of an awesome game.

“THE VERDICT
GRAPHICS:
Spectactular scenes, deep unbeleivable textures, and powerful use of bloom effects for explosions and impacts.
IMMERSION:
Unless nature calls, my guess is that you’ll be glued to the screen from start to finish (12-16 hours on normal) without a break. Now that’s immersive!
SOUND:
The ambient effects are incredible in 5.1, but the underlying score adds a layer of intensity to every scene that’s simply incredible. The soundtrack album will win awards, and will hopefully transcend the videogame industry to bigger mainstream appreciation.
DESIGN:
Perfectly paced, the story gets a little rushed, and you definately feel like you’ve played bits of this before…only it never looked or sounded this good, or had so many fun options.
(+)GOOD
(-)BAD
(?)PERPLEXING

+ Can’t rave enough about the music.
+ Incredible replay value packed in with multiplayer.
+ Incredible attention to all details.
- The end.
? Any chance we’ll get any single-player downloadable content? that’d be sweet but highly unlikely.

OFFICIAL XBOX MAGAZINE VERDICT:
9.7/10.00
EDITORS CHOICE!”

Yes, with the release of Halo 2 comes the Halo 3 release date and how fast it’s coming will suprise even you. *WARNING - SPOILERS INSIDE*

*PLEASE NOTE THAT SPOILERS ARE CONTAINED INSIDE THIS ARTICLE FROM HALO 2 (most notably the legendary ending)*

After beating Halo 2 on legendary, at first you may seem disappointed. There’s no different ending, no extras to be seen, and no true unlockables (the level you unlock can also be unlocked on Heroic). Yet, if you pay close enough attention to the credits, you may find what will be an important easter egg that’ll blow you’re mind… On the bottom of the credits, at the very end, you’ll find an interesting tid-bit of information… “Coming February 9th”. Now, what could this mean?

This may mean a 2005 release date, but with just 3 months left this seems doubtful (but definitely in the realms of possibility). This is more likely a release date for 2006.

Other possibilities include that February 9th could be the official announcement of Bungie’s next project or the first wave of downloadable content for Halo 2. Bungie has expressed that Halo 3 will not be its next project yet this released date does leave some speculation…

Also, more hints of a sequel come from the Halo 2 soundtrack, titled “Vol. 1”. You would expect another volume to come out but with all the music from Halo 2 already on the disc this hints at the Halo 3 soundtrack.

Will Halo 3 come out in a mere 3 months, or possibly another year? What does the date mean, is Halo 3 finally here? One thing is for sure, the only way you’ll know is on February 9th, when something special from Bungie is sure to come.
http://www.utopiangamer.com/features/halo3release/index.php?

——————–

Posted on November 24, 2004 11:09 AM | #

60. mb said:

If anybody thinks 12-16 hours on normal without a break is immersive, they obviously haven’t played enough games. 12-16 hours is on the short side for a single player storyline. I would say most games I have played fall into the area of 20 hours and then there are games such as Morrowind and Star Wars: Kights of the Old Republic with make Halo 2 look like a demo in terms of length.

Posted on November 24, 2004 11:38 AM | #

61. Mark said:

The halo 2 ending is a cliffhanger because the game was too big to make on one disc. so they are almost definitely coming out with halo 3. which will just be the continuation of halo 2. and if you think about it, they were totally braggin about how its all gunna be sweet because its gunna be on earth…and then look at the game, theres not that many levels on earth. so Halo 3 will probably be almost all on earth. and i have to make a argree with a rumor i heard. that they already have it made and are going to release it when ps3 comes out to compete. thats good thinking but i wish that they would just let halo 3 come out earlier.

Posted on November 24, 2004 05:08 PM | #

62. Toby said:

You’re happy enough to help move it off shelves with your sponsored ads on this very page!

Posted on November 25, 2004 09:37 PM | #

63. digitalrage said:

Super Mario Brothers totally Sucks! It’s repetative and the ending is bad. Come on!!! My princess is in another castle for 8 worlds and all I get is a bigger version of the same castle and bowser is just like the other koopas but with two hammers and flame breath?!? Where’s the big ending?!?! The huge cinematics?!? That’s what video games are all about right? A huge storyline with lots of eye candy!! Who cares about immersive gameplay if I can’t see something blow up at the end! And talk about repetative game play. All you do is jump and run and shoot fireballs and swim! And who programmed the Goomba’s AI?!? Come on people. I beat this game in ONLY 5 HOURS and I didn’t even use the warps. What a crappy stupid dumb game. Nintendo should be ashamed to put out this tripe. I want my money back!!!!!

That’s what ya’ll sound like. How can you judge this game based on a quick run through normal? Did any of you even play the first game? If you did, you’d realize how drastically different the experience is if you bump the notch up to legendary. Every hallway is a battle, every grunt stands in the way of you and victory. You must be cunning, patient and intuitive if you wat to succede. Compare that to running into a room
and holding down the fire button until everyting is dead. Woo-hoo much fun! Please, you sound like my five year old brother who won’t bump it past easy cause he doesn’t like to die. It’s like dissin a Harley cause you can only ride a tricycle and it’s boring you. Baldur’s Gate had a dumb ending and it was unforgivable because the gameplay was boring and repetative. Bump up the difficulty and the game is just as boring….but with stronger bad guys. no change in gameplay formula. Compare this to Halo 2. Sure the ending cuts you off (I was just getting psyched for the final battle where I was sure MC and Arbiter would join forces when the credits started rolling) but hit reset and put the difficulty up to legendary and it’ll be 5 hours before you pas the first landing bay with covenant boarding your ship from little purple tubes (you’ll know the part when you get there, and no co-oping, i’m talking solo carnage baby.) All I’m saying is that Halo 2 was made assuming you played Halo 1. You are expected to play on heroic or legendary. You are expected not to be a puss. You are expected to play throug the same freakin checkpoint 50 freakin times cause these elites are impossible to kill with this battle rifle and love it cause it’s damn hard. And last time I checked, challenge was a good thing…
Don’t even get me started on how fun the system link is… I don’t have LIVE and I dont care, I have FRIENDS. Guess what? It’s really really satisfying to shoot your homie in the face with a shotgun just as he’s talking his shi* about how good he is. Team play is easy to set up, and go get indicators that flash when your teammate is under fire and when they die. the power of the vehicles is balanced by the fact that you can steal them now (no more tank domination in multiplayer) MASTER CHIEF CAN TAKE A FALL NOW!!!!, so it’s a lot harder to suicide and you don’t lose your shields when you’re running away.
link cables and a router and three friends with Halo 2 and you are set for any party you go to. Try Drinking Halo 2! 1 drink per kill 3 for suicides 3 for head shot 5 for killing spree 10 for running riot double drinks for double kills!

I just have to wonder if you all are talking about the same game as me.

Posted on November 27, 2004 03:38 PM | #

64. k2shark said:

Bottom line is the ending BLEW! All in all a good game, but Bungie dropped the ball on the single player. I’ve played Halo 1 on legendary, it rocked and it was COMPLETE! Frankly I probably won’t even go back to 2 to play it on legendary because of the lame ass ending.

Posted on November 28, 2004 12:06 PM | #

65. 3ggPl4nt w1z4rd said:

Okay, first off… the game IS easy… if you play it on the little kid difficulty level. Play the damn game on HEROIC to start, punks.

Reviewers who punk their way through should be shot.

As for all you rental whores and “I’m not gunna buy me an Xbox”ers out there… why don’t you give it a go for yourselves, rather than letting a punk tell you different?

Halo 2 was great… and took quite a good deal longer to beat on a proper difficulty level than people gave it cred for. The only way you can get through the game in 5 hours is if you avoid every fight and run to the ends of each level, like a punk.

Legendary is probably the most grueling experience I’ve been through, but of course the end result was worth it. If you bothered, you’d see why it ended the way it did… and the date of yer next fix. PUNKS!

Now sit yer happy ass down and play… no more whining or I pull out the hickory stick! ^_-

Posted on November 28, 2004 04:14 PM | #

66. Dante said:

omfg, Joshua, ur a dumbass, its not Orbital, its Arbiter.

Posted on November 28, 2004 08:56 PM | #

67. Dante said:

o and 1 more thing, to all you peeps that hate the ending, this is a lead to a sequal, (durr) and so the conclusion will happen there, bungie aint that stupid to make a fourth, but holding it off, it can only get better, and face the facts, halo 2 was 10 TIMES Better than the first, think about it. it looks, sounds, plays and you can feel the storyline. Thats the reason yer pissed, because it didnt conclude and yer thirsting for it.

so stop yer blubberin and play multiplayer, youll like it….

Posted on November 28, 2004 09:01 PM | #

68. Crystal box said:

you people really should buy xbox live the game really comes alive then.
single player and AI is so yesterday.

Posted on November 30, 2004 09:09 AM | #

69. dan Johnson said:

I DK WHAT U GUYS ARE TALKIN ABOUT!!!

halo 2 is i think, 25% better then the 1st, the new vehicals are a lil wierd, but come on!!!
its a great game
maybe the 1st one was a lil better, because of the ending nd such, but.. come on, ITS HALO 2!!!

but hey, w.e, if u guys want a great game, besides shooting

get project gothem racing 2
its on 20 bux now!

(baught it for 50 :()

Posted on November 30, 2004 06:33 PM | #

70. CrazyTurk said:

Hello fellow MC’s and Orbital’s (lmfao)

First off… people who say the game doesn’t look better must need glasses or are on some drugs, play both games side by side and tell me that again… the ambient sounds and music are awesome and I hate hoobastank… People who say the visuals/audio was not upgraded are just plain ignorant… I suggest an HD and Surround sound… unless your poor… I’m sorry for you I truly am… Game play, movement everything is better… Let’ review all the things that got added… wait I can’t list them all, after all I want to go home in 50 minutes once I’m done.

Then there is a loner Nerds whom have no social life and play it exclusively for the story (which ended in a freaking genius way) your playing a game that was build for multiplayer… look at the interface… starting a camp looks like your about to duke it out in multiplayer… I’m sorry for your guy whom aren’t good enough to play against other. It must be frustrating to get killed every time and being at the bottom of the rankings @ all times… I wouldn’t hate the game but my self for being too stupid to play it.

If your really mad at the ending you must have been mad when you were watching LOTR part 1 and 2… oh wait your going to say that’s a contious story… this is to dumbass… I can’t wait to play the next game… Halo deserved all the rave reviews it got. But it’s a bad game, never mind it had the biggest onsale since playstation 2, since it’s pretty much beat ANYTHING before in video gaming history as far as sales #’s… but still it’s not a good game…
get a social life and enjoy what other people have worked hard to create cause it was people like you that kept complaining that the game wasn’t coming out till November 11th 04… you are truly sad and truly a disgrace to have even touched the game and it’s equally bad ass predecessor….

May god have mercy on your souls… maybe they modeled the flood after you…

Sincerely,
CT

Posted on November 30, 2004 06:59 PM | #

71. Zac Man said:

I think you guys are all crazy!! I would give HALO 2 a 20 out of 10. This one exceeds the first game in every single aspect possible. Sure, the ending might be retarded, but the overall story is way cooler than the first one’s. HALO 2 is psycho tight because of it’s stunning graphics, perfect gameplay, kickass weapons, perfectly mapped out levels, and what was the last thing, oh yeah, freakin X BOX Live!!!!! Online play alone puts this game on top of any other game available today. HALO 2 succeeds HALO 1 by like, ———————————————————————————–, that much!!! I mean, the game is freakin perfect! Heck yeah! I love this game and my grades are starting to be affected. Oh well, at least it’s my senior year. HALO 2 Rocks! Peace out. -Z MAN

Posted on November 30, 2004 07:26 PM | #

72. James said:

I agree that Halo 2 was overhyped. Definitely a good game, but falls a little short of expectations. The story-line is weak and repetitive. I also still like Socom 2 better as far as online FPS console gaming goes. Sure, Socom is much slower-paced as there’s no respawning, but overall it requires far greater strategy and skill (sniping is really an art in that game), provides a greater sense of realism, and a really good player can take on four opponents and still win – unlike Halo where you essentially need an even number of players on each team to balance the teams. The interfacing is really nice, but I also found on Socom it’s much easier to meet and befriend gamers online because you can join random rooms and play with the same people for hours on end. Although you can do that in Halo 2 also, you’d need to join a custom game to do that.

Posted on December 1, 2004 02:10 PM | #

73. Jon Doe said:

Where the FUCK is your post button?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
GOD DAMN took me an hour to find the damn button!!!!! Now I forgot what i was going to type.

Posted on December 3, 2004 09:37 AM | #

74. Undertaker said:

Fuck you all!! Halo 2 sucks ass!!!!!!

Posted on December 3, 2004 09:42 AM | #

75. Cindy said:

Hey, whats a halo 2????

Posted on December 3, 2004 09:46 AM | #

76. dude said:

hey seth! your a big dumbass geek you fucking fag!!!
P.S. Your mom says “HI”.

Posted on December 3, 2004 09:49 AM | #

77. ColdForged said:

Wow, is this what happens when seemingly normal weblogs delve into the morass that is console fanboyism? Might want to close comments on this entry, it’s only getting worse :). When you get four posts in a row from the same dolt (no “dude/Cindy/Undertaker/Jon”, you’re not fooling anyone) you know the thread has deteriorated beyond hope of salvation.

Posted on December 3, 2004 11:24 AM | #

78. Doom Fox said:

Beat the game in Legendary, then you will see something different.

Posted on December 3, 2004 08:44 PM | #

79. hacynth said:

Just beat Halo 2 myself and I have to say - after watching the collector’s edition “making of” - that bungie ran out of time on this one. Too bad they had to get it out before Christmas else this could have been as good as the first.

I will say that online mode slays though and is definitely worth $50 if you like multiplayer games.

And, regarding Half Life 2 .. Halo has nothing on this game, and never will because of the system really. Halo 2 didn’t impress me enough to have no story. Half Life on the other hand doesn’t even need a story, IMO. That game is so pretty and the pyshics engine is incredible. Nothing like it out there right now. Plus deathmatch just got released by Valve last weak and it is astounding. Do yourself a favor and pick it up (PC for sure, xbox prolly won’t be very good when it comes out next year)

xbox gamertag: hacynth

Posted on December 4, 2004 01:53 PM | #

80. Zac said:

Ok, if your buying a game just for the story, then something’s seriously wrong with you. Bungie did a smart thing here, they left you hanging, it means more people will want to buy halo 3 when it comes out to see whats goin on. half the fun of games is finding out secrets and bragging about it to your friends. halo2 has plenty of secrets, you can never really beat it. They left shit out on halo 2 so more people would buy halo 3. If you ask me that’s smart, I’d give the game a 9. Have you guys even tried finding any secrets? http://files.mythica.org/halo/darkh…ngrymarines.wmv look at this great secret. there’s plenty more. dont be so quick to judge a game. There’s more then meets the eye.

Posted on December 5, 2004 02:22 AM | #

81. Dustin said:

I heard that in a few month on X-Box live you will be able to get this download which will have 10 new levels and a bunch of new guns for Halo 2 to finish it off. It’s just a big thing to promote x-box live… But for all those people who want play how it really end…. I think they’ll get x-box live. I know I am.

Posted on December 5, 2004 10:27 PM | #

82. Spartan Fairy said:

Well gee. They did work very hard to get the game going and what not. They didn’t have quite enough time to get the game finished, and if they did maybe the games ending wouldn’t of had been that bad. It was a big rush for them to get the game finished in time. They had to actually take some stuff out of the game that they really wanted so that way they could get it out just in time. So I wouldn’t blame them for giving the game a crappy ending by cutting it off like that. And no duh they would leave questions that weren’t answered because they ARE going to make a Halo 3, no doubt. It would only be such of a bad thing if they didn’t make off another Halo and left us with these questions giving no answers. The game is all together a fun, and awesome game. I think it deserves what it got from alot of the gaming magizines that gave it a ten. Another thing, the graphics are better then the last. Play Halo, then play Halo 2 and you will see the difference. Not only is the game alone good playing solo, but playing live was another plus added to it. I think what they pulled off on Halo 2 was actually something good. Not bad. Some people just aren’t giving it enough good credit that it deserves. And it’s not THAT dissapointing as some may say it is. Also, if you were them and had to go through all that crap to make it, maybe alot of the negative people for the game would think differently.

Posted on December 7, 2004 08:47 PM | #

83. 100 Kill Bill said:

…… Halo 2’s greatness is only in the true form of the Multiplayer. Campaigns are pretty much just the Big Tutorial for the big “what’s to come” in the Multiplayer. Yeah, play campaign before multiplayer, or prepare to get yo ass kicked.

Posted on December 7, 2004 08:58 PM | #

84. Calvin Chang said:

You guys want bad ending? Try Half-Life 2.
XBOX Live Halo 2 > You

Posted on December 7, 2004 09:27 PM | #

85. L said:

I´m from Brazil and just ended the Halo 2 game. But I did not understand the ending becauses its a too fast and confuse english. Could someone explain, please the story ?

Posted on December 7, 2004 10:02 PM | #

86. Slashdotdash said:

I would like someone to also go through every thing that happens in legendary that doesnt happen in easy, like what sort of levels are added into multiplayer, what sort of ending happens, are there any extra campaign levels? spoil me, before i waste my school holidays!

also,

I am from New Zealand,way down is the South East pacific. Our game version is PAL instead of americas NTSC, so some game variants may be different. for instance:

- ive only just finished on EASY, and i have noticed a new covenant level for the MULTIPLAYER section

- I played it on easy, and i also saw the ending with cortana and the tentacle dude( who i think might be a form of flood…!)


- my FRIEND is the one i borrowed it off coz hes on holiday has the dvd and the disc in one lock in the case, and i have a pronounced tainted broken , evenly distibuter going-with-data circle imprint one it, and when iplayed this level about 2/3 through the campaign , it started to load heavily in the xbox, and about ten minutes later it sudeny took me out of playing, and went to the main halo 2 screen: ” please check your disc, it is dirty or damaged”, perhaps this is due to the dvd and game disc being un the same lock, like how cd-r spindles screw up your music and dvds.

- it si evident tha bungie were too stressed to finish halo2, and their production process lacked direction, as shown in the dvd ” weve made a something great, were not sure what it is, but its coming along.”

Another thought i have is also that you can cruise round the multi player levels just by yourself, maybe they put that in so u go there and wait for ppl to join on xbox live on LAN, just like unreal tournament, but i think this is a cool feature as it allowed me too find all the points where i can own up, but alas….i dont have xbox live! a major fault is that bugger all people have highspeed net, rendering multiplayer useles for the majority of people who dont play LAN or LIVE.

slash.

Posted on December 8, 2004 02:00 AM | #

87. Dante said:

guess what?

XBM rated Halo 2: 10/ 10
EGM rated Halo 2: 10/ 10


And I dunno what OXM or play or any other magazines rated it, I just know that if EGM rated it good, u better shut yer fuckin mouths and face the facts.

It doesnt get much better than this…

Posted on December 12, 2004 06:26 AM | #

88. Dante said:

ok, first off, the legendary ending isnt different, but it says something about a halo 3, commin out feb 9nth or somethin. At the end, the “Monument Of Sin” or wutever, its hard to hear him, if you find wutever that plants name is tell me. The Monument was the creature that captured MC and the Arbiter. Hes the guy at the end that has his tentacle Near Cortana.

O, the halo 2 stopping in mid game is beause yer disc Is scratched up. It happened to me and my bros halo 1, and we ended up buying all this repair stuff for it and it didnt work. My Suggestion? Go buy another copy of it, I had to do it twice. If anyone is in eed of some scratched halo discs, lemme know. lol

Mr. Brazil, if you dont understand it. There are books, dvds, and the original halo 1, if yer that far behind. The storyline isnt that complicated.

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Posted on December 12, 2004 06:34 AM | #

89. Nylus said:

Halo 2 was an ok game……for the first two levels. when you play as the arbitor its ok i mean everyone wanted to defened earth and kick ass as the master cheif.

Posted on December 12, 2004 05:28 PM | #

90. RoB said:

Okay….what’s with all this talk about Halo 2 having a crappy story? I thought the story beat Halo 1’s by a longshot. In fact, my only complaint about Halo 1 was a lackluster story. I never felt like i was actually killing bad guys for a reason. The first time through, i stopped to think, what am I doing all this for? Halo 2 has a much more involved story and much more dialogue (the Covanent speak in full sentences now). As for the ending, so what? It leaves you at a cliffhanger. Many books do this too. If there was not going to be a Halo 3, this would be a problem. But there is- So the ending is fine. Even if you hated the ending, that doesn’t destroy the entire story…

Gameplay: very similar to Halo 1 except w/ more vehicles and weapons. Is that a bad thing? No. Halo 1’s gameplay was awesome, so why change it.

And beating the game in 5 hours the first time through is highly unlikely. I know it took me about 8-9 hours. Playing the game on a higher difficulty also helps you get the most out of the game. I found the single player campaign very fun, but short, and because of these two reasons, worth playing again. I just finished Legendary today and WOW it is hard. And it took me a while. Playing through this game on legendary really shows how great the AI is, and how tactics, not brute force, is so important. This makes it fun.

P.S. There is no secret ending or unlocks when you beat legendary. I saw above that there’s a rumor you see the message “Coming Tuesday, February 9” when you beat it, but that is of course a rumor, and not true.

Posted on December 12, 2004 09:03 PM | #

91. sampsonG said:

Any retard that says this game can be beat in 5 hours is CORRECT. If this retard plays Halo 2 on Easy and is too weak to try it on legendary or even heroic. You will not beat this game in 5 hours on legendary and I would seriously doubt you could beat it on Heroic in 5 hours.

It took me and a friend 2.5 hours to beat the FIRST level on Halo 2 on legendary so nock it and say it is short until you play it on something other than normal or easy.

Posted on December 13, 2004 11:28 AM | #

92. shrpsh0t said:

Ok guys bash Halo 2 all you want. I can tell that you guys haven’t beaten it on the legendary setting because if you did you would have seen in the credits it states “coming February 9th” which means either Halo 2 part two, Halo 3 or something completly different. This also shows that you guys havent thought about it at all either……if you people really are halo/ bungie fans you should know that they would never put a game out that was so incomplete and a game that they knew would make people mad after waiting so long for it. It has been rumored that halo 3 or the second part of halo 2 was all ready made when halo 2 was released which is an even better way to make money for the company seeing as it will make the people have to pay for two games. So please if you guys don’t believe me go beat it on legendary (the whole game not just the last level) and see for yourselfs.


Also if anyone likes playing online I am usually on and welcome new challengers the name that I put at the top of this comment box is my gamertag but please no hastlers only people who really want to play the game. (the thing that looks like an o in shot is relly a zero not an O)

Posted on December 13, 2004 02:05 PM | #

93. gunwright_shuttlecock said:

Bah, Halo2 Legendary + obsessiveness in gaming = early stress related death. I made it as far as the 2nd or 3rd checkpoint which places you above a bay full of boarding covenant. A Red Elite bearing two plasma rifles each will drop you in about 0.20 seconds if they get a line of sight on you. Also, on 2 player mode, you can’t just respawn if you die while your partner fights on. You are both kicked back to the previous checkpoint. I just don’t see how anyone can take this game on legendary without using a neutron bomb. I tried all the plasma grenades. Unless you get a stick-on it won’t kill them. My friend claims to have actually stuck one to an elite and the elite survived and killed him from the front with a single blow. Is there anywhere you can get the scorpion tank when you first start the game? Being this difficult I imagine there must be some hidden superweapon somewhere.

Posted on December 16, 2004 12:29 AM | #

94. Jenni said:

CRAP! Are you serious? I got my brother Halo 2 for Christmas!

Posted on December 18, 2004 02:47 PM | #

95. Easy ST said:

I’m glad I’m not the only one who was bitchslapped back to Earth when those credits rolled. It was scary to find out that so many of you have the time to complete H2 on Legendary (still working on Heroic). Then I read the posting from digitalrage. It is really scary that you know so much about Super Mario (assuming that was all acurate). Funny as hell though. I’m not into the capture the flag stuff either but I would like to try Live. I like the fact that there is a ranking so maybe I can have some fun and not get raped by someone that is spending too much time in front of the wrong “box”. Side note: The slang typing some use here just looks stupid. What…that wasn’t slang typing? Oh, well good luck there junior.

Posted on December 19, 2004 03:59 AM | #

96. tweek9 said:

I have to admit that after I beat Halo 2 on “Legendary” status. I was waitin’ for the next level to start after I cut down that evil badass alien with that darned ass shield he has goin’. Then I see master chief, And I’m like Yeah baby! bring it on lets do this!….then he speaks about finishing the job or sumpin’ then it friggen ends?……I’m like Nooo way!….I was disappointed but then realized that they are setting it up for HALO 3…The did the same in Halo 1 at the end.It wasn’t like the good ol’ days when you beat like say legend of zelda and you get this this cool big ending with stuff all wiggin’ out and exploding..then we see the princess than they live like happy for awhile until a new threat comes thier way, etc. It was an ending that we kind expected. I will say though that HALO is a whole lot more fun and challenging on “LEGENDARY” status and is excellent training if you like to play multiplayer against friends and foes…I know that since beating HALO 2 in “LEGENDARY” and HALO 1 in “HEROIC” I gots skillz….BUT OVERALL I LOVE THE HALO SERIES…and especially love the levels and all the scenery after I kill off the aliens sometimes find myself exploring the levels and just trip out on how cool the world is that they created..almost makes me wish could jump into the game and bust. But thats just me….HALO IS COOL just because of the graphics, characters, gameplay, and options.
HALO RULES BABY!

Posted on December 20, 2004 03:33 PM | #

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