Harry Potter and The Half-Blood Prince

2. Bob said:

I agree with your review, Keith. I think that Rowling was forced to jam a lot in at the end because she suddenly realized (or was informed by her publisher) that if she continued on as the first 2/3 of the book did, we’d end up with a 73-chaper, 1000+ page book. I think she probably caught a lot of flack for the length of ‘Order of the Phoenix’ and had to scale back somewhere. Oh well. Still an enjoyable read.

I also have a pretty good idea who ‘R.A.B’ is. ;-)

Posted on August 5, 2005 10:14 AM | #

4. zug said:

I liked it the best of all the books – loved how thinks got really dark – I think the way rowling is introducing kids to an adult (e.g. terrorist laden) world is brilliant – especially given the timing of the London tube attacks – uncanny, to say the least

as a parent, I’m looking for things like this that will mature my kids into adulthood without making them live lives as fearful reactionary people

Posted on August 5, 2005 10:32 AM | #

6. Scott said:

I finished it within the day it came out, hehe. I especially liked this book, for all the backstory on Voldemort. He is my favorite character, after all.

Also, does everyone else here think R.A.B. is Regulus Black?! If the spoilers don’t color themselves black, Keith, I’m sorry. It showed it like that in the Comment Preview :(

Posted on August 5, 2005 12:35 PM | #

8. Keith said:

Scott – Yep. That’s what I was thinking…Nice trick coloring the text…

Posted on August 5, 2005 02:01 PM | #

10. jarek said:

I liked the book quite a bit, I would give it a strong 4. And Re: R.A.B Ward - I think that Dumbledore was indeed killed by Snape (the main argument is that Dumbledore appeared on a portrait in the director’s office) - but that Snape is on our side anyway.
I guess Dumbledore would agree that his death is worth keeping Voldemort fooled by one of his closest Death Eater (Snape). Well, we’ll see :)

cheers
jarek

Posted on August 5, 2005 02:27 PM | #

12. Terry said:

I loved the book, but the ending was so sad. I hope this means a gloriously happy ending in the final book – and maybe a soap opera comeback? (I wish!)

Posted on August 5, 2005 02:50 PM | #

14. Ward said:

jarek - Good point about the portrait. I didn’t think about that. Also, I agree with RAB also. If you remember in the previous book, the kids found a locket they could not open back in the Black house. Man, this thread has become one big flow of spoilage.

Posted on August 6, 2005 04:18 AM | #

16. jr said:

R.A.B could also be a nickname can’t it? i know for sure that rowling is obsessed with this kind of thing e.g. padfoot, prongs, heir of slytherin and half-blood prince.
I think Harry is related to Godric Gryfindor because his parents lived in Godrics Hollow; maybe he will find the last horcrux there!

Posted on August 7, 2005 04:51 AM | #

18. Juan C Valle Lisboa said:

I think that what Dumbledore asked Snape to do (and Hagrid overheard) is to kill him if these sort of things happened. Before leaving he was still trying to teach Harry about Occlumency and non verbal spells. As to RAB , it seems obvius that it might be Sirius’ brother (so probably he will not be in the last book!!). Also, can Harry himself be kinda Horcrux? That’s too crazy, I guess.

Posted on August 8, 2005 03:46 AM | #

20. Steve Ametjan said:

First, why would Voldemort make Harry, the one who he feels is his greatest threat, a horcrux? He has vowed adamantly that he will stop at nothing to try and kill Harry… what sense would it make to destroy your own horcrux?

Second, I agree with the people that are saying Snape isn’t evil. If he were evil, why would he have taken the time to continue instructing Harry on keeping his mind closed and his spells non-verbal?

And lastly, I think that RAB is very possibly Regulus, however I also feel that JKR wouldn’t have made this so obvious to us, unless there was something everybody was missing… something incredibly subtle. For instance, what if the mentioning of the locket in OotP, and the dropping of RAB in HBP was merely a red herring, and the locket that Harry now holds is in fact the true horcrux?

Posted on August 8, 2005 02:41 PM | #

22. Glyph said:

If you want to look at who R.A.B. is, it might actually be Regulus Black, the horcrux which is the Locket I think is found in book five when theyre cleaning the house at grimmauld place, on or about pg.116 of the order of the pheonix they find a locket that no one can open and just throw it in a junk bag.

Posted on August 8, 2005 06:36 PM | #

24. Calrion said:

Firstly, I agree with Keith, Half-Blood Prince is a good read though possibly not as good literature-wise as earlier books. I definately found it far more enjoyable than Order of the Phoenix, which I thought was quite cruel.

R.A.B: I definately agree. On Snape, I agree with Mike : Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him so Snape wouldn’t break his Unbreakable Vows.

My predictions for Book 7: Harry, Ron and Hermione will stay together; Ginny will wait for Harry, and they’ll at least be engaged by the end (though wouldn’t a wedding be a superb ending!). One way or another, Harry will become an Auror (either they’ll accept him without NEWTs or he’ll return to Hogwarts – or something).

One more thought: perhaps Ginny will catch the bouquet at Bill and Fleur’s wedding?

Posted on August 9, 2005 12:18 AM | #

26. Andrew said:

Ok.. So Dumbledore showed up in the portrait in the Headmasters Office and the Jinx on Harry was removed that proves that he was killed by Snape. And I agree with pretty much everybody posting that Snape is on the Order’s side and did what he was told by Dumbledore. Although I hate the guy like Harry does….

I really hope that Ginny waits for Harry… Ive thought from the first book when he sees her on the platform for the Hogwarts Expresst that they would end up together.

RAB has got the be Regulus and the locket found in OoTF could be the horcrux but where is it now if it ended up in the junk bag???

Posted on August 9, 2005 01:17 PM | #

28. Sara said:

everyone is saying that Dumbledore is dead, but remember the part during his funeral when harry thought he saw a pheonix rise from the coffin? Fawkes had already left… so what if it was dumbledore?

Posted on August 9, 2005 06:38 PM | #

30. Sarah said:

Ok, I think Snape is definitely on the side w/the Phoenix. He has been loyal the whole time, and the thing that Dumbledore asked him to do just may be that he would have to kill him. Also, I think that Harry is the last Horcrux. Because, while Voldemort may have not intentionally meant to, he said that his soul was ripped from his body. Could it just be possible that part of his soul went into Harry? It does make sense, because Harry has some of Vol. charateristics, and Dumbledore had said that (excerpt from pgs. 332-333, Chamber Of Secrets) “You can speak Parseltongue, Harry” said Dumbledore calmly, “because Lord Voldemort-who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin-can speak Parseltongue. Unless I’m much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I’m sure…”

Posted on August 9, 2005 06:50 PM | #

32. Amanda said:

It seems that everyone at this posting suspects that Snape is still loyal to the Order despite clear evidence that he has actually turned bad. The reason lies with Dumbledore’s near omnipotence. Readers have a hard time accepting that Dumbledore could have been wrong about Snape because for five full books Dumbledore has been all powerful and almost all-knowing. Readers have a choice. Is Dumbledore a Christ figure, a sacrifice to defeat evil? (See Genesis 3: the head of the serpent will bruise His heel.) Or, is Dumbledore merely human and wrong about Snape? (See page 197: Dumbledore warns Harry that his mistakes can be “huger” than most men’s mistakes.)

Posted on August 9, 2005 07:26 PM | #

34. John said:

I read that story.It’s a nice story.I enjoyed this. John

Posted on August 9, 2005 10:04 PM | #

36. Maddy said:

One question.. are Snape and Voldermort related in anyway? Snape has never been seen when Voldermort is around, in any of the previous books, but he always appears immediately after. Also, in HBP, when Snape comes into the picture to kill Dumbledore, all the Death Eaters back away.
What could be so great as to make Dumbledore trust Snape so much, unless Snape owes him something huge? I think Snape will be instrumental in a big way in the next book. He does belong to the Order, since he stops harry from excruciating pain, saying the Dark Lord has reserved Harry for himself.

Also, why did Narcissa approach Snape?

Posted on August 10, 2005 06:12 AM | #

38. Todd said:

The locket in the cabinet at the Black house seems hidden, but obvious - the replacement was placed by Regulus. Snape figures in somewhere with Regulus and Potter’s parents to gain AD’s full trust - to make such a deep character that is so undeveloped a simple traitor in a matter of one paragraph is unrealistic. Snape seems to be the only really interesting character in the series at this point, IMO.

Dumbledore is “dead” - but he isn’t really “gone”. I haven’t seen this variation of the theory yet, but if it’s a repeat, oh well. RAB is Regulus, which seems logical enough - but we need to remember that this replacement was beneath a sophisticated potion. Dumbledore’s rather cavalier attitude about drinking the potion, with extravagent instructions to force him to finish it seems unusual - as though he knows he needs to get the ‘full dose’. Who is the rather obvious master of potions? Snape. Who has Dumbledore’s utmost trust? Snape. Why the selection of the phoenix as a ‘familiar’, with Albus being the Head of the Order of the Phoenix? A phoenix dies and is reborn from the ashes….even from the first book, Snape boasted of the ability to ‘cheat death’.

To fool Voldemort takes extraordinary means - and Snape would obviously be highly suspect by the Death Eaters. His easy and volunteered offer to make the Unbreakable Vow reinforces the idea that this had been planned from the OofTP, with Dumbledore knowing that this was the only way to maintain Snape as trusted spy on Death Eaters & Voldemort. At every point or question that V could probe Snape on, Snape could truthfully answer that the consequences would be fatal for Dumbledore - the potion, it’s deadly, and the killing curse - well, that’s a given. I’m betting that the potion may cause death, but it also allows death to be cheated, insulating against all other lethal events (such as the AK curse or the fall from the tower). Snape is no traitor - just rather distasteful!

Posted on August 10, 2005 07:19 AM | #

40. Pip said:

I also believe Dumbledore is truly dead. Not only for the portrait, but it makes sense that the main character loses his mentor, having to take responsibility for himself knowing no one will protect him. Knowing Dumbledore and his mentality of sacrificing so much toward the end of the book, it is easily to believe that he intended for Snape to kill him for some greater purpose. To all of you who want to believe that Dumbledore is alive, keep in mind that while Dumbledore was in the portrait, he never spoke!

Posted on August 10, 2005 09:04 PM | #

42. jason said:

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Posted on August 10, 2005 09:07 PM | #

44. Sir Lord Aaron said:

I do believe Dumbledore is dead. I mean it was kinda obvious that something bad was going to happen to him after he and Harry returned from their trip and saw the dark mark. Besides in the previous books Dumbledore seemed almost invincible but in HBP he seems just like a normal wizard. The theory about RAB being Regulus is quite good and would seem very true but JK also likes to throw us off sometimes at the obvious. SO i wouldnt be to suprised if it wasnt Regulus. Also on the Snape theory about still being good, I think he is evil, you guys just don’t want to admit it because you guys have been spoiled in the previous book showing Snape at the end was good, but now since you have pure evidence that he indeed is evil, you guys just refuse to accept the inevitable that indeed Snap is EVIL!! Also in HBP it seems JK rushed the book, and there were too much stuff in the end, I mean if indeed the 7th book is the last book, that book would surely be as long as the Bible(lol). I do not think Harry will return to Hogwarts, i mean he does SAY he won’t return. Lastly how is Harry going to KIll The Dark Lord, how is this little skinny, untited hair, 4 eyed freak going to destroy the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time when he alone couldnt kill Snape. As Snape says, Potter does not even have any special powers, just meiocre at the least. And how is Harry going to find all the Horcruxes, Harry isn’t that smart and it would be preposterous and also unlikely for him to find at least 2 out of the 4. I believe in the end The Dark Lord himself shall kill Harry Potter at last!!!!!! (Also i wasnt really sad that Dubledore died, he got annoying at some points and was just an old GEEZER. Also is anybody else annoyed that Ron and Hermione are together, a little mudblood and a blood traitor together is just despicable!!!!)

Posted on August 11, 2005 08:53 AM | #

46. Alessia said:

I’m still shocked after I finished reading thsi book 2 hours ago…it’s so sad about the end of Dumbledore and poor Harry that now has even less people that he loves and they love him around. But I think that what happened will help Harry grow more cuz he’s in the way of becoming an adult so also if this awful experience was really though for him, the consequences consist in that Harry is even more in the god side and will do everything to kill Voldermort and till this point Dumbledore seemed- no offense- really stupid in beleiving Snape as in he was the one that killed him but Im sure that in the next books everything will be explained but Snape irritates me…I really hate him and this book was so into me that after I finished I cried lightly cuz it was sad the situation of how things were going on in thsi book.

Posted on August 11, 2005 01:42 PM | #

48. Harry said:

I just had an I idea! What if Dumbledore is another unreigtered Animagi? What if he is a Phoenix? That would make sense right? Because Harry thought that he saw a Phoenix rising out of Dumbledore’s coffin… So now maybe Dumbledore can’t be human anymore cuzhis human body was killed but what if he can still be a Phoenix and help Harry?I am not sure If HArry will come back to school… I mean now he doesn’t even have Dumbledore to help him or give him advice… But as a lot of you have pointed out Harry couldn’t kill Snape and he still needs more schooling… Although I don’t think Harry was TRYING to kill Snape… Because he tried Crucio and all the Half Blood Prince’s curses but he never tried Avada Kedavra… And as much as I hate Snape I still think he is a good guy because the Dark Lord never objected to causing Harry pain… Voldermort just wanted to kill HArry so I still think Snape is on the good side… BEcause he could have caused Harry pain ut didn’t he said “No!”…”Potter is the Dark Lord’s!” I agree that Dumble dore dying was all part of a plan for Snape to appear to still keep his allegiance with the Dark Lord… As much as I hate Snape I still think he is good…

Now I do not think that RAB is Regelus Black…Here is my reason…JKR wants ud to think that RAB is Regelus Black… This is how she writes! She will lead us to believe one thing and then she might introduce a whole new character! Or she could have mentioned some person once in the whole series and it might be them… I mean think about it! In the SS/PS she once talks about Dedalus Diggle shaking Harry’s hand50 times and then doesn’t mention him again until the OotP where he is part of the whatever squad…And then i believe she also mentions Mundugus in passing by in the SS/PS or PoA… And then she doesn’t talk about hin again until the OotP and HBP…

Posted on August 12, 2005 10:56 AM | #

50. pip said:

my version of the 7th book,well harry has to go back to the Dursleys one last time, so i think they will be dead. then at the end there will be a ginormous battle between good and evil (pelennor fields style for any of you lotr fans)Snape will die at some point whether it be at Harrys hand or whether it be protecting Harry. and then Harry will go on to fight voldermort, somehow both of them are going to die, because i think Harry is a horcrux, and there will be a huge bit about harry going to wizard heavan or w/e and meeting his family.

Posted on August 12, 2005 12:27 PM | #

52. Peter said:

I THINK SIR LORD AARON IS RIGHT. HIS IDEA’S DO SEEM CORRECT!!! Everyone read his comment and write wht you think of it.

Posted on August 12, 2005 02:58 PM | #

54. Sir Lord Aaron said:

Listen Harry, this is Sir Lord Aaron and I think I know much more than you. You list preposteric idea’s that will never happen. But i have reached just not hyothesis but an equivelant of the truth. And who are you to say what JK will and will not do. Your ide’s are not just fairy tales but also IRRELEVANT. For i am Sir Lord Aaron “the all knowing.”

Posted on August 12, 2005 07:45 PM | #

56. Geo said:

And am I the only one who thinks that Neville will have a much bigger part in the climax of the books than we might have imagined? Remember, if you will, what we learned in OotP about him. Remember what was said about him in the explanation of the prophecy. Maybe Harry IS a horcrux. Maybe Neville somehow IS the threat Voldemort did not see.

Posted on August 12, 2005 08:36 PM | #

58. Dj W!ldc@rd said:

Guys…some very interesting comments out there but this is what i think
RAB is Regulus.I Ok..Now this is what is:

Regulus was to find this horcrux and take the locket and bring it to the Black house where it will be kept. Regulus filled the goblet with a potion given to him by Snape. Sirius & Regulus appear to die so that Harry inherits the Black Mansion and along with it the locket.Dumbledore destroys the other horcrux and finally takes harry with him to the horcrux and forces harry to tell him to finish drinking the potion. Dumbledore is not stupid not to differentiate between the 2 potions. Dumbledore and harry returns back and Snape ‘kills’ dumbledore. But here is the glitch. When voldermort used the avada kedavra against Cedric in the GOF Cedric just lumped and fell dead. He wasn’t blasted or anything. Moreover Snape might have said a vebal spell but must have paid more focus on a non-verbal spell which just sends dumbledore flying. When he’s falling to the ground buckbeak comes right on cue and puts on the ground.Then a polyjuice potion is fed to a dead death eater with dumbledore’s hair so as to look like dumbledore. Now there is alot of time between dumbledore being ‘killed’ by Snape to the time he is found dead. So … All this is being done so that Voldermort thinks that Dumbledore is dead. Now..I believe that Dumbledore wants Harry to believe that he is dead for some reason..1 being voldermort can read harry’s mind as they are linked together. Now about the potrait… Why i don’t think it is because dumbledore is dead.

1.Dumbledore is sleeping in the potrait…It could be just abother picture because in the pictures do move but they can’t speak or see outside.

2.If he was dead then he would be able to talh..like the fat lady…

3. If died having anger that snape cheated him then he would become a ghost.

Finally Harry is not the 7th Horcrux..Neville is.
And the prophecy will be fulfilled. Voldermort will do th e avada kedavra at Harry but Neville will come in the way. Thus as the final Horcrux is destroyed Voldermort himself will die thus fulfilling the prophecy.

Posted on August 13, 2005 01:53 AM | #

60. tessa said:

i think (think) that neville will somehow help harry kill voldemort (dont know how). i dont think that harry is a horocrux because voldemort is always trying to kill him, and thats like killing part of yourself! And i dont think that harry will go back to hogwarts, because like, it will get shut down. and then after all these years ron and hermione might date each other.

Posted on August 13, 2005 06:04 AM | #

62. Harry said:

I agree with Dj W!ldc@rd… I think that Neville is a Horcrux so then when Voldemort uses Avada Kedavra on Harry Neville will take the hit and die… Therefore destroying the last Horcrux… So then Harry can kill the mortal Voldemort… I also think the Polyjiuice potion is a good idea… But I had one more idea… What if Dumbledore is another unregistered Animagi? So maybe Fawkes already had left Hogwarts when Dumbledore was supposedly killed so then Dumbledore could have supposedly been Fawkes and everybody would think that including the Dark Lord! And if you think that Snape would die cuz he didn’t full fill the unbreakable wow… There is no time limitin those… Because Malfoy failed with the potion and the necklace and the Unbreakble wow states that if Malfoy fails and Snape doesn’t help him Snape should die then… But he didn’t…Proving there is no time limit!

Posted on August 13, 2005 11:04 AM | #

64. Evan the 2nd said:

The guy above me is crazy! Dumbledore is dead. But i think Harry is going to be taught by Dumbledore’s portrait.

Posted on August 13, 2005 12:11 PM | #

66. Harry said:

Well if the following 6 are Horcruxes:
1= locket *obviously*
2= the ring dumbledore had
3= tom riddle’s diary
4= Nagini *why would harry be told of an animal being an horcrux being a bad thing, if it is quite irrevolant
5= Helga’s Hufflepuff’s goblet
6= sumfing of Rowena Ravenclaw
Then the 7th part must be in Lord Voldermort… But what I think is that he doen’t have anything of Ravenclaw’s but in HBP when Dumbledore showed Harry the memory of Voldermort coming to ask Dumbledore for the DADA job you remember his hand flicks to his wand? Well then I think that he might have jinxed DADA job but also he made the Sorting Hat a Horcrux… And if he didn’t jinx the job and made the Hat a Horcrux…Then I think that it was just a coincidence that all the teachers got ka-poofed…

Posted on August 13, 2005 03:55 PM | #

68. Harry said:

I agree with Robby… Any body who think taht Harry is a Horcrux is INSANE! I think Voldermort only made 6 Horcruxes…And the 7th part of his soul is in himself… So here are my predictions for the Horcruxes…
1. Slytherin’s locket
2. Hufflepuff’s cup
3. Marvolo Gaunt’s Ring
4. Something of Ravenclaw’s or Gryffindor’s
5. The Sorting Hat
6. Riddle’s Diary
7. The last part of Voldermort’s soul is in him.
So the diary and the ring are destroyed for sure. We can assume that the locket is the one in Sirius’s house. So that means if all my predictions are correct Then Harry has to come back to Hogwarts once for the Sorting Hat even if he doesn’t come back for schooling

Posted on August 13, 2005 04:22 PM | #

70. Harry said:

If Regelus Black is RAB then the A is is middle name… Well Sirius said that there were rumors… He never said it was proven…So maybe Regelus was killed by Voldermort for trying to destroy the Horcruxes… So then Voldermort put it out with his spies abput backing off because he didn’t want everybody t know he had Horcruxes…Especially the Order of the Phoenix….But I still do not think that RAB is regelus because Jk rowling will lead us to belive one thing and then do something none of us expected… And I think that everyone thought of Regelus Black as soon as they finished the book. And I don’t think any of us thought that she would make Snape DADA teacher… But she did so i think that she will do what we think she won’t do… So expect the unexpected1

Posted on August 13, 2005 09:57 PM | #

72. Harry said:

Yes I also remember reading something about the name Alphard in the 5th book… He was Tonkses Mother’s brother or something like that! They are talking about the Black Tapestry and then Sirius is saying how his cousin Andomera or something was his favorite cousin… NO WAIT! He was the one who left Sirius the money! So maybe that is his middle name…But I also support the theory of RAB being more than one person… Maybe Snape was involved… I was reading somewhere that it was Snape and Regelus and Snape made a potion that prevents death and put it in the basin.. So when Dumbledore went there he drank the potion which appeared to torture him but maybe it prevented death… So maybe Snape really did use Avada Kedavra but the potion prevented Dumbledore from dying but put him into a kinda trance.

Posted on August 13, 2005 10:30 PM | #

74. Heather said:

RE: Sarah (comment 28) – THANK YOU! In all of the boards I have been on since finishing book 6, you are the first person I saw who shares my phoenix theory. A phoenix actually does die b4 being reborn. So DD’s death would have been real (which would have explained the portrait as well as Harry being freed from the spell), but not permanent. The only question I have is: if DD does come back to life, will he vanish from the portrait?

Posted on August 13, 2005 11:33 PM | #

76. Dj W!ldc@rd said:

Ya..its me again.. Its quite long but has a lot of stuff in it.

Somethin else popped in my head. In the 2nd book wen lucious malfoy was about to use avada kedavra against harry , dobby could stop him. And wher can u find the highest number of house elves? Hogwarts. And wat is the only creature that can apparate inside hogwarts?House - Elves.I don’t know wat but thats a coincidence or wat? And why does Hagrid mention buckbeak around twice or thrice in the book. Rowling purposely put that in i guess.SO I think buckbeak picked dumbledore while he was falling. In the lord of the rings an eagle takes gandalf from a tower.so this seems to be another coincidence. Now, one of the most safest and closest places to hogwarts is the forbidden forest. Dumbledore could be there along with Hagrids brother. Who is again mentioned by Hagrid in the book.(Hagrid has a habit of revealing important things accidently) .so this seems to be another coincidence. RAB is almost 100% Regelus Alphard Black.

About the horcruxes this is the list.
1. Slytherin’s locket ]-> Stuff
2. Hufflepuff’s cup ]-> Of
3. Something of Gryffindor’s]-> Hogwarts
4. Something of Ravenclaw’s ]-> Founders
5. Marvolo Gaunt’s Ring
6. Riddle’s Diary
7. Voldermorts human body.

And now for the final part….What happenned when voldermort killed Harry’s parents could have been this:

Vorldermort said the avada kedavra at potter but his mother protected him with the strongest counter spell….Love. Now at that point Lily died ad with this killing Voldermort accidentally created a 8th horcrux - Harry. Thus a part of his soul went into harry and voldermort was weakened.Thus harry got the scar and was linked to voldermort, got a part of his abilities like parseltongue. He exceeded the most powerful magical number of 7 by one thus losing a lot of his power.

He either realises it or not:

1. if he has realised that he had accidently created a 8th horcrux he wants to kill harry, destroy the 8th horcrux get it back to the most powerful number in magic 7. For this reason he wnated the Philosophers stone so that even if he destroys his horcrux he can still live forever.

2. If he does not realise this he wants to kill harry because he heard half the prophecy from snape and wants no one in his way on his way to glory.

After reading the book, wat strikes me most is Snape. He is a wizard as powerful as dumbledore and voldermort. He is amazing at potions,occlumency,legilemens,defence against the dark arts and from his potions book even at making new spells. Now the only problem is he isn’t as smart as the other two.

I have a question in the ooftp dumbledore talks about a room in the department of mysteries that is always locked up with some power….the power of something….He talks about this wen he talks bout voldermorts weakness. and more over i dont think sirius is dead.

Im sorry this is os long

Posted on August 14, 2005 03:25 AM | #

78. Dj W!ldc@rd said:

Hey im human i made one more mistake…. i DON’T think anything of ravenclaw is a horcrux…Instead it is Nagini who is the other horcrux as brian said.Now I believe in the next book Patil sisters will somehow help Harry to kill Nagini because Nagini is an Indian Snake and why on earth would rowling put two indian sisters in the book???? Just a thought. One more thing. Sirius in the 5th book tells Regulus was asked to do something but he refused. I think as Sirius was James and Lily’s secret keeper Voldermort wanted Regulus to use the imperious curse on his brother or some other thing on Sirius to know were Jmaes and lily was….

Posted on August 14, 2005 06:40 AM | #

80. jay said:

i think harry is going to need a yoda type figure like luke skywalker had to make him this unbelievable wizard he will need to be. he was so ineffective against snape it was imbarassing. this teacher figure will have to be like the spirit of dumbledore or R.A.B. who obviously is a very powerful wizard. who ever he is.

Posted on August 14, 2005 07:57 AM | #

82. mrguy said:

err why hasnt anyone started to talk abt harry n ginny?

Posted on August 14, 2005 08:25 AM | #

84. Dj W!ldc@rd said:

And my final post is to say that while we think and rack our brains on whether dumbledore died or not Rowling must be grinning coz she has this thing to change the whole freakin stroy in one book. FOR EXAMPLE - The Horcruxes. I mean where were the horcruxes in the last 5 books & im sure she #’ll come up with some really screwed up thing for snape maybe good or bad. Wat puzzles me is snape is the guy in whom albus dumbledore and lord voldermort trusted everything. If he is actually intelligent (which i don’t think he very much is) He might as well end up as the main enemy of harry potter. He knows how to destroy voldermort and he’s already ‘killed’ Dumbledore(Let the debate go on) So in the end he might be the One the Minsitry of Magic has to be afraid of…..If turns out to be good then he might end up as the minister of magic(although i really don’t want that to happen) coz he is the most powerful wizard of all time gaining the the trust of two of THE greatest wizards (who by the way wants to kill the other). How the hell does he manage that?

Posted on August 14, 2005 10:43 AM | #

86. Harry said:

I agree with Jay… There has to be something about impersonating people. Here is my theory…
I think Voldermort just said Regelus had been killed but really sent his Death Eaters hunting Regelus… If Regelus was RAB then he couldn’t destroy the locket because he had to run for and didn’t have enoguh time to do the destroying. So he took refuge with Dumbledore and Dumbledore kept him hidden… After the 5th book when Sirius dies Regelus decides it is time to come out of hiding and help the Order. So he takes the Polyjuice Potion and impersonates Dumbledore the whole year but is still getting instructions from Dumbledore on what to do and say. And Snape knew all this. So he really did kill but he didn’t kill Dumbledore he killed Regelus! And the reason he really could kill(because you need to enjoy it) was because he hated Sirius so he could also hate Regelus and also becaus ehe could have gotten that old Death Eater part of him back and been angry at Regelus for betraying Lord Voldermort! So Dumbledore is in hiding but alive! And I had another thought if Snape really did help Regelus get the Lockett Horcru then he wouldn’t sign his name ecause Voldermort still probably trusted Snape but all the Death Eaters knew that Regelus had betrayed Lord Voldermort! There are two more theories I support….
One that says that Dumbledore is an Animagi of a Phoenix or is really a Phoenix… Because Phoenixes do die before they are reborn… So Dumbledore could have really died and then be born again. OR here is my other theory…
I support the Witherwings(Buckbeak) Polyjuice Potion theory. Where Snape didn’t really kill Dumbledore and then Buckbeak stops Dumbledore from falling and take s the potion so Dumbledore goes into hiding and then Buckbeak was baried but Fawkes(if that really was Fawkes) made the tomb so Buckbeak could get out of the tomb without breaking it!

Posted on August 14, 2005 10:52 AM | #

88. JDO said:

To Harry: I don’t think that Regulus was impersonating Dumbledore thru the polyjuice potion because Dumbledore was pulling his own memories from his brain to show Harry in the pensieve. The polyjuice potion doesn’t allow you to take the other person’s memories, just their form.

Now, no one has mentioned this and I’ve been waiting, so I have to bring it up. Why would Dumbledore trust Snape after knowing that Snape betrayed James and Lily? What did Snape say that made Dumbledore trust him. I think that Snape was truly sorry because he was in love with Lily. She was great at potions, just like Snape, and when James was teasing Snape when they were in school, Lily stood up for him. I think Snape truly was sorry because he didn’t mean for Lily to get killed. Also, I think he has been planning this to get close to Voldemort so he can kill him. He wants revenge for Lily. I agree that Harry isn’t strong enough to take down Voldemort by himself, but I think that Snape will actually help him. Hermione is smart and I believe she and Ron will help Harry find the other horcruxes and destroy them. So, when Harry does finally face Voldemort, all of the other horcruxes will be gone, except Harry (who is a horcrux) and Voldemort, and they will both die.

Posted on August 14, 2005 02:30 PM | #

90. jay said:

i agree with the lily snape thing i was thinking about thier common potion mastery. also voldermort said to lily she didnt have to die. maybe snape told him to spare lily. its possible but than again it doesnt fit with the mind set of voldermort. he doesnt spare anybody especially if its only that snape asked him as a favor. voldermort has no friends. he doesnt do favors for anyone.

i think this fawkes thing is a lil far fetched. in fact i dont think there is a chance dumbledore is still alive. he will be a factor somehow in the final book but not as a living person.

Posted on August 14, 2005 04:04 PM | #

92. Phil said:

Regulus is dead, or number 12 grimmauld place would have been passed to him instead of harry…..
right?

Posted on August 14, 2005 07:21 PM | #

94. CyberJohn said:

Okay, i have a hunch.

Dumbledore had already visited the cave before he took harry with him, so he would have already known that an RAB character had taken the true horcrux. So then he asked Snape to whip up a potion that can bring some one back to life, and then put that potion into the stone basin. but one of the effects of the potion would cause Dumbledore great pain from drinking it and weaken him. but, dumbledore planned all this out of snape killing him but the potion would cause his body to erupt flames but, dumbledore came out in a form of a pheonix and turn back to Dumbledore in secret. But you may ask why would dumbledore take harry to retrieve the fake horcrux when he already had known that it was fake. it was because he wanted to show harry what it might be like to retrieve horcruxes if dumbledore and harry would split up.-(in my opinion)
so snape had killed killed dumbledore but is really still good, but now he will not be suspected by the death eaters now.

Now i have an idea about Harry being a horcrux. in the final confrontation with Voldemort and Harry, Neville and harry will both help out with the death of Bellatrix and after Harry has killed Bellatrix i think he will transfer the part of voldemort inside of him into a Horcrux which he will destroy. i think that would be the final horcrux besides voldemort. so now voldemort’s horcruxes are all destroyed and he will finally be defeated in the end some how…

please comment on my ideas.

by all means call me a stupid bum sweat baker that has no idea about what he is talking about.

but just comment

Posted on August 14, 2005 09:13 PM | #

96. CyberJohn said:

well im glad some one could make aout a little of what i had to say!

Posted on August 14, 2005 09:59 PM | #

98. CyberJohn said:

Im sorry im probably pretty annoying but i was just wondering aloud to anyone.

does anyone have an idea about who that huge blonde death eater was in the end of the HBP???

Posted on August 14, 2005 10:09 PM | #

100. mrguy said:

I’ve just realised…neville’s middle name is augusta or sumthin rite? i tink its one of his parents…maybe…

Posted on August 15, 2005 05:19 AM | #

102. mrguy said:

ok…im getting dumb…his parents are frank and alice…nvm >.

Posted on August 15, 2005 06:57 AM | #

104. Easter said:

Okay, the thing about Albus already going to the cave, maybe. Snape, in the first book, said he could teach the students how to cheat death with a potion, so perhaps that is what he did. Why did Albus seem like he was trying desperately to figure out how to get in to the cave and such, I think, perhaps, it was to show to Harry that magic leaves traces and can always be found, therefor if they were to be split up for some reason, then Harry himself would perhaps be able to detect the reminance of magic.
Quote from answers.com
“In the ensuing battle, Sirius actually disappears - he falls through an arch and does not reappear; he is thereafter presumed dead. He was hit by a stunning spell by Bellatrix Lestrange, his own cousin. This sent Sirius through a mysterious veil, which is presumed to have killed him. This is still not solidly answered, and may be a plot in future Rowling works.” With this, perhaps Sirius will return in some way in the 7th book.

Posted on August 15, 2005 07:43 AM | #

106. hay said:

i also think that sirius wouldn’t return as jkr said that people don’t come back from the dead

Posted on August 15, 2005 07:45 AM | #

108. Matt said:

I don’t know why all of you are wrapped up in the portrait being the reason why dumbledore is dead. It said his picture was placed alongside the portraits of other dead headmasters. Never does it mention that you have to be dead to have your picture up there, and whos to say dumbledore didn’t bewitch it to go up there as a further decoy of his. He is not dead and the fact lies in the use of nonverbal spells. In every single book, spells that were taught during the year were used in great effect. The summoning charm for example was learned and immediately used to save harry from the dragon. Another for example, the patronus. The learning about werewolves. Learning to levitate in the first to beat the troll. All of these things and more were used yet if anyone can tell me where nonverbal spells were used yet please point out where. Rowling uses all spells in the end and this one hasn’t been used. It is obvious that Snape made it look like the killing curse but in fact did a different curse that looked like the adeva kedavra. As we also know he is good at making up spells and made one that looked like the adeva kedavra. One of you also mentioned dumbledore was not afraid to die. Correct, so why would he plead for snape not to kill him???? All of these things show that this is all part of a plan by dumbledore to trick voldemort into thinking he is dead, just like he let slip that he could do the same thing for malfoy!?!

Posted on August 15, 2005 09:12 AM | #

110. Matt said:

and to add to the fact that if dumbledore is dead, what about the fawkes’ song. He always did this before healing, what if he is transferring the power to dumbledore to be reborn from his ashes. This would give credit to rowling to say that somebody died if they came back, and would also give an explanation to the flames at dumbledores funeral, as we have found out that flames do not harm witches or wizards (they just acted like it when muggles would tie them to stakes and attempt to burn them: remember)and also would explain the phoenix that came from the flames. So either my other theory is right that he isn’t dead or this other a bit more illogical course of action that he is reborn is true, dumbledore will be back.

In case he isn’t though, props to rowling for throwing this huge twist in her series. Really did anybody expect it??

Also didn’t the message inside the locket from RAB say he had destroyed the only real horcrux(the real locket) leaving voldemort mortal. That would mean he is free to die and no potter as the seventh horcrux. And does anybody know if they will be returning to school the next year because it sure doesn’t look like it.

Posted on August 15, 2005 09:25 AM | #

112. Brian said:

i sorta agree with matt about R.A.B destroying the horcruxes, but hu is to say that harry and R.A.B will get along and both hunt the horcruxes.
Also i think that Fawkes is alot more significant than ‘just Dumbledore’s phoenix’.
And J.k *i think* confirmed that Dumbledore’s animagus is a phoenix. so maybe a switching spell *Dumbledore is very gifted at Transfiguration* or a Duplication spell will come into it, that Fawkes is actually Dumbledore’s animagus.
another hunch i have is to why Fawkes is in Harry’s & Voldemort’s wand. maybe when Dumbledore told tom in the orphange to go to Diagon Alley and everythng, maybe Dumbledore gave Ollivander a tale feather from Fawkes so that Fawkes could like ,be tied to Harry and Voldemort, like to constrict Voldemort from killing Harry in the fourth book.

Posted on August 15, 2005 10:04 AM | #

114. Brian said:

and i like Matt’s theory abouth the Draught of Living Death, he is quite right.

Posted on August 15, 2005 10:07 AM | #

116. Brian said:

how did ARAGOG die again?

Posted on August 15, 2005 11:40 AM | #

118. Dumbledore's man Thorugh and Thorugh said:

It didn’t say how Aragog died but when you think about it it doesn’t make sense that Dumbledore killed Aragog because Hagrid doesn’t say that Aragog just died like that(with a snap of a finger) it says that aragog was dieing and then he died… But then when you think about again Hermionie asks Hagrid “couldn’t Dumbledore do anything” well Hagrid might have asked but Dumbledore wasn’t there so he might have left a not or something so Dumbledore got to know and then he went and killed Aragog…that is why Hagrid replies”Dumbledore is to busy to handle things like this”… But also notice that Hagrid acted like Aragog was dead the first time he told Harry, Ron, and Hermionie… So maybe he did tell Dumbledore and Dumbledore kneew he had to make a horcrux soon so I think that DD told Hagrid that he had to kill Aragog… That is why Hagrid seemed sad from the beggining…

Posted on August 15, 2005 02:26 PM | #

120. Dumbledore's man Thorugh and Thorugh said:

I think you are right jay. Slughorn said you had to commit a great sin to make a horcrux… Everybody steps on plenty of bugs… But notice on thing they never talk about any bugs in Hogwarts… Well that is kinda stupid soooooooooo it doesn’t matter

Posted on August 15, 2005 02:59 PM | #

122. Dumbledore's man Thorugh and Thorugh said:

Well Jay: There areen’t any portraits of Lily and James… And well if you are talking about Harry’s album maybe the photo has to be in a special frame( such as the one Hogwarts Headmasters are in) to be able to talk… Horcruxes don’t get used up after the guy dies…

Posted on August 15, 2005 04:00 PM | #

124. Matt said:

Dumbledore would not prolong his life. He even says himself that he is not afraid of death. He is just living out his life so there is no way he made a horcrux

Posted on August 15, 2005 05:49 PM | #

126. Leigh said:

If Regulus Black is RAB, is it possible that he was killed by voldemort and came back as a ghost and his ghost destroyed the locket to get revenge?

Posted on August 15, 2005 05:58 PM | #

128. Dumbledore's man Thorugh and Thorugh said:

I am not sure… I am sure that Snape was innocent but I am not sure of the fact thta Dumbledore is alive or dead. I agree with CyberJohn. I think the reason portraits can talk is because more effort has been put into them… But then that wouldn’t explain how the picture of Phienas Nigelus in Sirius’s house can talk! Easter: the Potters and Longbottoms didn’t betray LV thrice… They defied him thrice… This is what is says *The one with power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies to those who have thrice defied the him…* So as Dumbledore thinks it was Harry because *he marked him as his equal*…

Posted on August 15, 2005 06:48 PM | #

130. jay said:

so then why didnt harrys parents do one for him. im not so sure the magical paintings are actually panited. dumbledores painting just appeared.

also dumbledore said voldermort would prefer these horcruxes to the sorcereres stone because he doesnt want to be dependent on it. but if he dies he is still dependent on someone to help him to be brought back to human form.

plus if ull argue that harrys parents werent good enough to make the painting. voldermort certainly should have made one just in case someone killed and he needed someone to bring him back to life.

also why dont they use dobby and the house elves to help them fight. they seem to be the most powerful of anyone. they can apperate in hogwarts and dobby beat the … out of lucias malfoy. they could have taken on all the death eaters no problem

Posted on August 15, 2005 07:47 PM | #

132. kansas said:

hey what if the sorting hat is a horcrux, idk if anybody said that yet

Posted on August 15, 2005 08:05 PM | #