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August 05, 2005 |
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(Just a warning, there are minor spoilers in here, and if you get into the comments, don’t be surprised if there are major spoilers in there.)
I just finished Harry Potter and The Half-Blood Prince and all in all I really enjoyed it.
It’s a bit slow to start, and nothing of any consequence happens for about the first 2/3’s of the book, but it’s an enjoyable read. I quite liked all the teen angst stuff and every time I read “won-won” I chuckled quite a bit.
It really picks up towards the end, and it seems like Rowling crammed a whole bunch of stuff into the final 5 or so chapters, making the book feel a bit lopsided overall. This one is also a bit heavy. I mean, when the book ends Harry, Hogwarts and the rest of the wizarding world isn’t in a very good place. It’s pretty sad and things are looking bleak.
It really makes you want to get on with the story and see what happens though. I know I can’t wait for the next book. I am curious how it could all be wrapped up in one volume. It seems like there are even more loose ends than their was before. Are we in for one of those “keep-on-growing” series?
I’m not opposed to that, as long as everything gets wrapped up and explained. I’ve got lots of questions, and a few theories. That’s one thing I’ve loved about this series—there is so much to think about and speculate on after every book.
Anyway, it was a nice read. Not quite as good as some of the previous books, but still very entertaining.
My Rating: 3.5 out of 5.
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While I agree that it’s not quite as good as a couple of the other books, I love the way that the story ends. This is the closest that Rowling has left us to a cliffhanger ending in any of the books. While the other books left much to be thought about and speculated on, they all seemed to feature an “end” to that particular story. This one however, leaves us with more than just a couple of thoughts about what could happen in the next book, but it leaves us at an uneasy place in Harry’s life.
The one thing that I found incredibly annoying with this book was Harry’s new found fascination with Malfoy. I mean, what 16 year old is going to spend his time snooping around and trying to find dirt on someone when there are a ton of girls that are throwing themselves at them? I know I wouldn’t have when I was that age. Hell, I wouldn’t even do it now.
Posted on August 5, 2005 09:28 AM | #
I agree with your review, Keith. I think that Rowling was forced to jam a lot in at the end because she suddenly realized (or was informed by her publisher) that if she continued on as the first 2/3 of the book did, we’d end up with a 73-chaper, 1000+ page book. I think she probably caught a lot of flack for the length of ‘Order of the Phoenix’ and had to scale back somewhere. Oh well. Still an enjoyable read.
I also have a pretty good idea who ‘R.A.B’ is. ;-)
Posted on August 5, 2005 10:14 AM | #
Bob - I think I know who R.A.B. is too. And it would make sense…
Posted on August 5, 2005 10:26 AM | #
I liked it the best of all the books – loved how thinks got really dark – I think the way rowling is introducing kids to an adult (e.g. terrorist laden) world is brilliant – especially given the timing of the London tube attacks – uncanny, to say the least
as a parent, I’m looking for things like this that will mature my kids into adulthood without making them live lives as fearful reactionary people
Posted on August 5, 2005 10:32 AM | #
A friend of mine likes to call Rowling’s fondness for throwing all the exposition and action into the last few chapters a “Dumbledump”.
It got all terribly tongue-in-cheek when we were reading this particular book…
Posted on August 5, 2005 11:35 AM | #
I finished it within the day it came out, hehe. I especially liked this book, for all the backstory on Voldemort. He is my favorite character, after all.
Also, does everyone else here think R.A.B. is Regulus Black?! If the spoilers don’t color themselves black, Keith, I’m sorry. It showed it like that in the Comment Preview :(
Posted on August 5, 2005 12:35 PM | #
I have a theory and can’t want for the next book to come out to see if I’m correct or not.
SPOILER ALERT!!!
Check it out my theory if you want to…
I agree about the book being lopsided. But, overall I enjoyed the book too.
Posted on August 5, 2005 01:43 PM | #
Scott – Yep. That’s what I was thinking…Nice trick coloring the text…
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:01 PM | #
I started the last 5 chapters before trying to go to bed: I was up till 3:30 finishing it. These books have been great fun but with this one it feels as though she wrote it with the movie in mind.
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:11 PM | #
I liked the book quite a bit, I would give it a strong 4. And Re: R.A.B Ward - I think that Dumbledore was indeed killed by Snape (the main argument is that Dumbledore appeared on a portrait in the director’s office) - but that Snape is on our side anyway.
I guess Dumbledore would agree that his death is worth keeping Voldemort fooled by one of his closest Death Eater (Snape). Well, we’ll see :)
cheers
jarek
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:27 PM | #
Each book has that simmilar plot arc in which Harry is trying to convince everyone else of something they do not wish to believe and his desperate attempts to be heard causes him to be alienated. Harry dealing with alienation is that element that keeps the stories nice and tense as ithey move from event to event. I didn’t find Harry’s hunch about malfoy was as effective in creating that palatable alienation. So I found myslef getting bored waiting to get back to dumbledore or voldemort. So weaker character development for Harry, but great for all the other characters.
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:30 PM | #
I loved the book, but the ending was so sad. I hope this means a gloriously happy ending in the final book – and maybe a soap opera comeback? (I wish!)
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:50 PM | #
We’re in agreement on RAB, then. Ward’s theory is, at the very least, heartening compared to the outcome we’ve read.
Posted on August 5, 2005 07:41 PM | #
jarek - Good point about the portrait. I didn’t think about that. Also, I agree with RAB also. If you remember in the previous book, the kids found a locket they could not open back in the Black house. Man, this thread has become one big flow of spoilage.
Posted on August 6, 2005 04:18 AM | #
I, too, thought the beginning was a little boring, but I never really lost interest because I figured it would’ve all made sense in the end. And the more I think about it, the more the speculations of R.A.B. make sense. Very clever of you all, considering I was wracking my brain trying to think. Glad I have some relief now, lol. I thought some parts near the end were a little rushed.
But overall, a very sad ending. Jarek, you raise a great point about the portrait. But couldn’t Harry still talk to Dumbledore through the portrait? I’ve wondered about that. I am also anxious to see how everything can be concluded within a single book, and something makes me think that it might not necessarily be a happy ending (hopefully I’m wrong).
Posted on August 6, 2005 04:20 PM | #
R.A.B could also be a nickname can’t it? i know for sure that rowling is obsessed with this kind of thing e.g. padfoot, prongs, heir of slytherin and half-blood prince.
I think Harry is related to Godric Gryfindor because his parents lived in Godrics Hollow; maybe he will find the last horcrux there!
Posted on August 7, 2005 04:51 AM | #
Well, you might notice that Regulus, doesn’t that seem a little obvious? I mean, 99 percent of the people are saying it’s regulus, what if that’s the desired reaction? Or maybe JK Rowling underestimated her readers. Either way.
Posted on August 7, 2005 05:17 PM | #
I think that what Dumbledore asked Snape to do (and Hagrid overheard) is to kill him if these sort of things happened. Before leaving he was still trying to teach Harry about Occlumency and non verbal spells. As to RAB , it seems obvius that it might be Sirius’ brother (so probably he will not be in the last book!!). Also, can Harry himself be kinda Horcrux? That’s too crazy, I guess.
Posted on August 8, 2005 03:46 AM | #
RAB is Regulus Black, I think we can all agree on that. The debates i see here seem to be whether Dumbledor is dead. He is, for he did not fear death nor did he have the drive to create a horcrux. Snape is not evil. Snape is a dedicated member of the Order. If Dumbledor trusts him i trust hi. There was a very telling line directly before Snape kills Albus where it says something about both of their eyes meeting. Well Snape and Dumbledor were both advanced Legitmenz (sp?) so they could communicate that way. When it says there was a look of revultion in Snapes eyes that was either reveltion as to what Dumbledor was asking him to do or it was just good acting. As for the third mystery… i dont think Regulus is alive, but this is the point i am most shakey on. Dumbledor told Draco that the Order could make him vanish, make it seem like he were dead. So whats to say they didnt do the same for Regulus and not even tell his dear brother. Well, if Regulus is RAB, and he was stealing horcuxes, then he would have told the Order. Then Dumbledor wouldnt have needed to go looking for them. Unless Regulus was acting so secretly that he didnt even tell the Order what he was doing, but that seems a little fishy.
Also I havent made a conclusion yet as to if Harry is the 7th Horcrux
Posted on August 8, 2005 01:51 PM | #
First, why would Voldemort make Harry, the one who he feels is his greatest threat, a horcrux? He has vowed adamantly that he will stop at nothing to try and kill Harry… what sense would it make to destroy your own horcrux?
Second, I agree with the people that are saying Snape isn’t evil. If he were evil, why would he have taken the time to continue instructing Harry on keeping his mind closed and his spells non-verbal?
And lastly, I think that RAB is very possibly Regulus, however I also feel that JKR wouldn’t have made this so obvious to us, unless there was something everybody was missing… something incredibly subtle. For instance, what if the mentioning of the locket in OotP, and the dropping of RAB in HBP was merely a red herring, and the locket that Harry now holds is in fact the true horcrux?
Posted on August 8, 2005 02:41 PM | #
I think that Dumbledor told snape to kill him if he had to in order to keep his unbreakable vow. The harry potter series reminds me a lot of the loard of the rings and I would not be surprised if she was influenced by it. In the lord of the rings sarun could not imagine somebody would give up the power of the ring and destroy it. In this story voldemort believes the worst thing is death, plus he has no friends or connections to anybody. So I do not think that it would cross his mind that Dumbledor would sacrifice his own life for the good of others. His death allows snape to get closer to voldemort. It puts Draco in his debt because his life was spared same way as wormtail is in harry’s debt. Finally the fact that voldemort can not love he can not be loved and has to connection with anyone puts him at a disadvatage aginst harry. Fear will only garuntee so much loyalty but love generates more.
The only thing that I did not like about the book was that if Dumbledor was only going to the tower to send harry to get snape why did he not send his Patronus with a message for snape. She mettioned on her site that this way of communicating is very effective because it wards of dark magic and since everybody’s Patronus is different the person getting the message knows who it is from.
Posted on August 8, 2005 02:45 PM | #
If you want to look at who R.A.B. is, it might actually be Regulus Black, the horcrux which is the Locket I think is found in book five when theyre cleaning the house at grimmauld place, on or about pg.116 of the order of the pheonix they find a locket that no one can open and just throw it in a junk bag.
Posted on August 8, 2005 06:36 PM | #
Dumbledore, unfortunately, is dead. The fact that he appears in the portrait is proof. However, why does noone think to talk to him to clarify what happened on the tower? Surely if you wanted to know exactly what happened between Snape, Draco and Dumbledore wouldn’t you ask him? As for Snape, as much I love to hate him I still think he is good. I think killing Dumbledore was a pre-meditated thing that the Order was in on, hence they didn’t try to stop him as he left. Only Harry went after him…. And I don’t think that Harry will leave Hogwarts, it doesn’t make any sense for him to go off trying to find the Horcruxes. Where would he look, he doesn’t seem to be powerful enough to do any of that on his own. When Harry and Dumbledore go after the locket Harry really doesn’t do anything, except everythin Dumbledore tells him to, he couldn’t find the door, or the boat or how to get to the locket…..he’s not experienced enough…..I have a feeling that we haven’t seen the last of Sirius……..anyway that’s it.
Posted on August 8, 2005 09:42 PM | #
Firstly, I agree with Keith, Half-Blood Prince is a good read though possibly not as good literature-wise as earlier books. I definately found it far more enjoyable than Order of the Phoenix, which I thought was quite cruel.
R.A.B: I definately agree. On Snape, I agree with Mike : Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him so Snape wouldn’t break his Unbreakable Vows.
My predictions for Book 7: Harry, Ron and Hermione will stay together; Ginny will wait for Harry, and they’ll at least be engaged by the end (though wouldn’t a wedding be a superb ending!). One way or another, Harry will become an Auror (either they’ll accept him without NEWTs or he’ll return to Hogwarts – or something).
One more thought: perhaps Ginny will catch the bouquet at Bill and Fleur’s wedding?
Posted on August 9, 2005 12:18 AM | #
Just a final nail in Dumbledore’s coffin; when Snape killed him the curse that Harry was under was immediately broken therefore further proof that he is indeed on the other side.
Although I would like to believe that Snape killed Dumbledore because I think he is an evil vile character, I have to go along with the idea that Dumbledore asked Harry to go get Snape, proving that Dumbledore knew that he was going to die and that Snape would be the one to put him to a peaceful rest. Also, he would have killed Harry and tell Voldemort it was an accident, if he was dark.
I can’t imagine that Harry is the 7th Horcrux. I keep thinking of one thing that Dumbledore brought up…the prophecy does not have to be fulfilled. I have a feeling this will come up again in book 7.
Posted on August 9, 2005 12:41 PM | #
Ok.. So Dumbledore showed up in the portrait in the Headmasters Office and the Jinx on Harry was removed that proves that he was killed by Snape. And I agree with pretty much everybody posting that Snape is on the Order’s side and did what he was told by Dumbledore. Although I hate the guy like Harry does….
I really hope that Ginny waits for Harry… Ive thought from the first book when he sees her on the platform for the Hogwarts Expresst that they would end up together.
RAB has got the be Regulus and the locket found in OoTF could be the horcrux but where is it now if it ended up in the junk bag???
Posted on August 9, 2005 01:17 PM | #
JK said that Sirius dying would end up being really important later on, but in the sixth book it seemed like the only thing that came from his death was Harry’s inheriting the house. So maybe what makes his death important is RAB being his brother, its possible that he could be still alive because no one ever said who killed him or anything like that. voldemort supposedly had him killed because he wanted to leave the death eaters, and the note addressed voldemort as the dark lord which only a death eater does. maybe sirius’s murder put things in perspective for regulus? i dont know its just a guess.
Posted on August 9, 2005 01:34 PM | #
everyone is saying that Dumbledore is dead, but remember the part during his funeral when harry thought he saw a pheonix rise from the coffin? Fawkes had already left… so what if it was dumbledore?
Posted on August 9, 2005 06:38 PM | #
Dumbledore ordered Snape to kill him for one reason, to protect Draco from cementing his position on the ‘darkside’.
All along Dumbledore knew that Malfoy was up to no good, but didn’t interfere because he was worried that Malfoy would be killed by Voldemort if he was exposed.
Dumbledore would happily trade his life for the soul of a student. That iss why he ‘pleaded’ with snape to kill him, surely not out of fear for his life, but for fear of draco’s and snape’s.
Posted on August 9, 2005 06:48 PM | #
Ok, I think Snape is definitely on the side w/the Phoenix. He has been loyal the whole time, and the thing that Dumbledore asked him to do just may be that he would have to kill him. Also, I think that Harry is the last Horcrux. Because, while Voldemort may have not intentionally meant to, he said that his soul was ripped from his body. Could it just be possible that part of his soul went into Harry? It does make sense, because Harry has some of Vol. charateristics, and Dumbledore had said that (excerpt from pgs. 332-333, Chamber Of Secrets) “You can speak Parseltongue, Harry” said Dumbledore calmly, “because Lord Voldemort-who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin-can speak Parseltongue. Unless I’m much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I’m sure…”
Posted on August 9, 2005 06:50 PM | #
Ok, I think Snape is definitely on the side w/the Phoenix. He has been loyal the whole time, and the thing that Dumbledore asked him to do just may be that he would have to kill him. Also, I think that Harry is the last Horcrux. Because, while Voldemort may have not intentionally meant to, he said that his soul was ripped from his body. Could it just be possible that part of his soul went into Harry? It does make sense, because Harry has some of Vol. charateristics, and Dumbledore had said that (excerpt from pgs. 332-333, Chamber Of Secrets)
“You can speak Parseltongue, Harry” said Dumbledore calmly, “because Lord Voldemort-who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin-can speak Parseltongue. Unless I’m much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I’m sure…”
“Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?” Harry said, thunderstruck.
“It certainly seems so.”
So I think that Harry is definitely a Horcrux, because as the prophecy says, that Harry doesn’t HAVE to kill him, it just says that either must die at the hand of the other, and neither can live while the other survives, because how can you really live with only part of a soul? And how can Harry live when Voldemort is always going to have a part on this earth, within Harry? So what I’m saying is that yes, I think that both of them must die, but Voldermort will never be truly gone until Harry is dead, because a part of him is in him. And I do think that R.A.B must be Regulus Black. Because why else (as Glyph said, on pg. 116. of OoTP) would the locket be in the house of Black? It must have gotten put there by someone somehow. So there, that’s my views. Ya agree w/em, then that’s good. Ya don’t, too bad. Just tell me what ya think!
Posted on August 9, 2005 07:07 PM | #
It seems that everyone at this posting suspects that Snape is still loyal to the Order despite clear evidence that he has actually turned bad. The reason lies with Dumbledore’s near omnipotence. Readers have a hard time accepting that Dumbledore could have been wrong about Snape because for five full books Dumbledore has been all powerful and almost all-knowing. Readers have a choice. Is Dumbledore a Christ figure, a sacrifice to defeat evil? (See Genesis 3: the head of the serpent will bruise His heel.) Or, is Dumbledore merely human and wrong about Snape? (See page 197: Dumbledore warns Harry that his mistakes can be “huger” than most men’s mistakes.)
Posted on August 9, 2005 07:26 PM | #
Great theories. Another clue that Harry might be a Horcrux, harboring a part of Voldemort’s soul: the Sorting Hat couldn’t decide whether to put him into Slytherin or Gryffindor.
Regarding the Slytherin locket, I wonder if Mundungus has it among the things he took from the Black home… If he took it, maybe he sold it.
And it doesn’t seem possible that Regulus is still alive. If he were, he would have been the heir to the house and Kreacher wouldn’t have taken orders from Harry. Also, the note from R.A.B. said he/she expected to be dead long before the note was read.
Posted on August 9, 2005 08:41 PM | #
I read that story.It’s a nice story.I enjoyed this. John
Posted on August 9, 2005 10:04 PM | #
i think that Dumbledore is dead. He’s not exactly going to be needed in the last book and the death of Voldemort has always been in Harrys hands even though Dumbledore was the one he feared the most. Him being dead benefits everyone more then him being alive also. Even though there is a lot of clues to suggest that he may still be alive. He did tell Draco that he could make it so everyone would think he was dead, so whynot do it for himself? But personally I find that it would be a little disappointing if he was still alive. J.K Rowling did say that someone important died in the book and I don’t think she would have said it, if he wasn’t actually dead…
Posted on August 9, 2005 10:28 PM | #
One question.. are Snape and Voldermort related in anyway? Snape has never been seen when Voldermort is around, in any of the previous books, but he always appears immediately after. Also, in HBP, when Snape comes into the picture to kill Dumbledore, all the Death Eaters back away.
What could be so great as to make Dumbledore trust Snape so much, unless Snape owes him something huge? I think Snape will be instrumental in a big way in the next book. He does belong to the Order, since he stops harry from excruciating pain, saying the Dark Lord has reserved Harry for himself.
Also, why did Narcissa approach Snape?
Posted on August 10, 2005 06:12 AM | #
How about Kreacher having the horcrux…he was always hording things that were being thrown away!
Posted on August 10, 2005 06:23 AM | #
The locket in the cabinet at the Black house seems hidden, but obvious - the replacement was placed by Regulus. Snape figures in somewhere with Regulus and Potter’s parents to gain AD’s full trust - to make such a deep character that is so undeveloped a simple traitor in a matter of one paragraph is unrealistic. Snape seems to be the only really interesting character in the series at this point, IMO.
Dumbledore is “dead” - but he isn’t really “gone”. I haven’t seen this variation of the theory yet, but if it’s a repeat, oh well. RAB is Regulus, which seems logical enough - but we need to remember that this replacement was beneath a sophisticated potion. Dumbledore’s rather cavalier attitude about drinking the potion, with extravagent instructions to force him to finish it seems unusual - as though he knows he needs to get the ‘full dose’. Who is the rather obvious master of potions? Snape. Who has Dumbledore’s utmost trust? Snape. Why the selection of the phoenix as a ‘familiar’, with Albus being the Head of the Order of the Phoenix? A phoenix dies and is reborn from the ashes….even from the first book, Snape boasted of the ability to ‘cheat death’.
To fool Voldemort takes extraordinary means - and Snape would obviously be highly suspect by the Death Eaters. His easy and volunteered offer to make the Unbreakable Vow reinforces the idea that this had been planned from the OofTP, with Dumbledore knowing that this was the only way to maintain Snape as trusted spy on Death Eaters & Voldemort. At every point or question that V could probe Snape on, Snape could truthfully answer that the consequences would be fatal for Dumbledore - the potion, it’s deadly, and the killing curse - well, that’s a given. I’m betting that the potion may cause death, but it also allows death to be cheated, insulating against all other lethal events (such as the AK curse or the fall from the tower). Snape is no traitor - just rather distasteful!
Posted on August 10, 2005 07:19 AM | #
*spoiler*
I definetly think that the locket horucrux was taken by Sirius’ brother, Regulus Black. It was sitting around the Black house, and they were unable to open it. It could have been stolen by Mundungus and sold again or still there waiting to be destroyed. I hope it all goes well in the 7th book. The sixth book was very well written but overall kinda boring in the beginning, and hard to get into unless you really enjoy the series.
Posted on August 10, 2005 07:46 AM | #
I also believe Dumbledore is truly dead. Not only for the portrait, but it makes sense that the main character loses his mentor, having to take responsibility for himself knowing no one will protect him. Knowing Dumbledore and his mentality of sacrificing so much toward the end of the book, it is easily to believe that he intended for Snape to kill him for some greater purpose. To all of you who want to believe that Dumbledore is alive, keep in mind that while Dumbledore was in the portrait, he never spoke!
Posted on August 10, 2005 09:04 PM | #
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Posted on August 10, 2005 09:04 PM | #
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Posted on August 10, 2005 09:07 PM | #
An addition to Dumbledore’s death. It is most likely that he was indeed killed by Snape. If he was alive or if Snape did not go through with the task Snape would have been killed by the binding speel placed on him by Bellatrix. She clearly stated that Snape must protect Malfoy at all cost and that if Malfoy failed in his plot, Snape would complete the task. The Binding spell is irrevokable and cannot be broken unless it is fulfilled. I believe, on the otherhand, that Dumbledore did not leave empty handed and has left something for Harry as a key to life. In HBP you also see Dumbledore’s last word’s as “Snape… Please..” I saw this as quite odd because Dumbledore usually speaks with confidence. Snape represents an enigma and therefore represents a third side to the climax. I believe he will have a major role in the next novel.
Posted on August 11, 2005 12:13 AM | #
I do believe Dumbledore is dead. I mean it was kinda obvious that something bad was going to happen to him after he and Harry returned from their trip and saw the dark mark. Besides in the previous books Dumbledore seemed almost invincible but in HBP he seems just like a normal wizard. The theory about RAB being Regulus is quite good and would seem very true but JK also likes to throw us off sometimes at the obvious. SO i wouldnt be to suprised if it wasnt Regulus. Also on the Snape theory about still being good, I think he is evil, you guys just don’t want to admit it because you guys have been spoiled in the previous book showing Snape at the end was good, but now since you have pure evidence that he indeed is evil, you guys just refuse to accept the inevitable that indeed Snap is EVIL!! Also in HBP it seems JK rushed the book, and there were too much stuff in the end, I mean if indeed the 7th book is the last book, that book would surely be as long as the Bible(lol). I do not think Harry will return to Hogwarts, i mean he does SAY he won’t return. Lastly how is Harry going to KIll The Dark Lord, how is this little skinny, untited hair, 4 eyed freak going to destroy the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time when he alone couldnt kill Snape. As Snape says, Potter does not even have any special powers, just meiocre at the least. And how is Harry going to find all the Horcruxes, Harry isn’t that smart and it would be preposterous and also unlikely for him to find at least 2 out of the 4. I believe in the end The Dark Lord himself shall kill Harry Potter at last!!!!!! (Also i wasnt really sad that Dubledore died, he got annoying at some points and was just an old GEEZER. Also is anybody else annoyed that Ron and Hermione are together, a little mudblood and a blood traitor together is just despicable!!!!)
Posted on August 11, 2005 08:53 AM | #
Could RAB be Borgin of Borgin and Burke. After all he was Voldemort’s first employer and may have known and have been concerned about his antics as a young man. Also dealing with a horcrux would have been a pretty useful skill for one running a shop such as Borgin and Burkes
Posted on August 11, 2005 12:40 PM | #
I’m still shocked after I finished reading thsi book 2 hours ago…it’s so sad about the end of Dumbledore and poor Harry that now has even less people that he loves and they love him around. But I think that what happened will help Harry grow more cuz he’s in the way of becoming an adult so also if this awful experience was really though for him, the consequences consist in that Harry is even more in the god side and will do everything to kill Voldermort and till this point Dumbledore seemed- no offense- really stupid in beleiving Snape as in he was the one that killed him but Im sure that in the next books everything will be explained but Snape irritates me…I really hate him and this book was so into me that after I finished I cried lightly cuz it was sad the situation of how things were going on in thsi book.
Posted on August 11, 2005 01:42 PM | #
Harry potter amazing character.It’s become popular as popular as britney spears.It is popular through his stories but now from movies he become more popular.
Posted on August 12, 2005 02:47 AM | #
I just had an I idea! What if Dumbledore is another unreigtered Animagi? What if he is a Phoenix? That would make sense right? Because Harry thought that he saw a Phoenix rising out of Dumbledore’s coffin… So now maybe Dumbledore can’t be human anymore cuzhis human body was killed but what if he can still be a Phoenix and help Harry?I am not sure If HArry will come back to school… I mean now he doesn’t even have Dumbledore to help him or give him advice… But as a lot of you have pointed out Harry couldn’t kill Snape and he still needs more schooling… Although I don’t think Harry was TRYING to kill Snape… Because he tried Crucio and all the Half Blood Prince’s curses but he never tried Avada Kedavra… And as much as I hate Snape I still think he is a good guy because the Dark Lord never objected to causing Harry pain… Voldermort just wanted to kill HArry so I still think Snape is on the good side… BEcause he could have caused Harry pain ut didn’t he said “No!”…”Potter is the Dark Lord’s!” I agree that Dumble dore dying was all part of a plan for Snape to appear to still keep his allegiance with the Dark Lord… As much as I hate Snape I still think he is good…
Now I do not think that RAB is Regelus Black…Here is my reason…JKR wants ud to think that RAB is Regelus Black… This is how she writes! She will lead us to believe one thing and then she might introduce a whole new character! Or she could have mentioned some person once in the whole series and it might be them… I mean think about it! In the SS/PS she once talks about Dedalus Diggle shaking Harry’s hand50 times and then doesn’t mention him again until the OotP where he is part of the whatever squad…And then i believe she also mentions Mundugus in passing by in the SS/PS or PoA… And then she doesn’t talk about hin again until the OotP and HBP…
Posted on August 12, 2005 10:56 AM | #
Ok guys… I had an idea… We have been talking about what we think will happen and all so now why don’t we write our version of the 7th book? I don’t have any ideas right now so I won’t start but if any of you read this and have ideas please start!
Posted on August 12, 2005 11:47 AM | #
my version of the 7th book,well harry has to go back to the Dursleys one last time, so i think they will be dead. then at the end there will be a ginormous battle between good and evil (pelennor fields style for any of you lotr fans)Snape will die at some point whether it be at Harrys hand or whether it be protecting Harry. and then Harry will go on to fight voldermort, somehow both of them are going to die, because i think Harry is a horcrux, and there will be a huge bit about harry going to wizard heavan or w/e and meeting his family.
Posted on August 12, 2005 12:27 PM | #
Well I was thinking we can just each of us write a paragraph so then we canput it together and have a story… Not just a sumary… No offense pip…Well I got an idea so here goes… But I agree the end should be like Pelennor fields..Except in Hogwarts..
“Hedwig!” Harry exclaimed as harry’s owl limped through the window. Her leg was badly injured and Harry could tell she had barely made the flight. He cleaned up her leg and saw there was a large gash as long as his finger on her leg… He untied the letter and put it aside. After putting a bandage on her leg. He picked upi the letter and was about to open when a thought struck him. The Death Eaters had attacked Hedwig… What if someone had read the letter? He ponder these thought for an hour before he realized he still had the letter… So he opened it. Inside was Ron’s writing.
Dear Harry,
How are you? Have you decided when you are gong to leave yet? How are you going to get to the Burrow? Well maybe you can apparate since you passed the test.
Harry had completely forgotten about the apparation test…He and Ron had both passed the test 1 week ago…
Bill and Fleur’s wedding is on the 25 of July… So can you have to come by the 24th atleast and then you can stay for your birthday and then we can leave together…Hermione is already here…When can you come?Ginny sends her love…
Ron
Ok so this all I could think of so continue…And don’t skip over … Make it exactly like the book with every little detail!
Posted on August 12, 2005 01:04 PM | #
I THINK SIR LORD AARON IS RIGHT. HIS IDEA’S DO SEEM CORRECT!!! Everyone read his comment and write wht you think of it.
Posted on August 12, 2005 02:58 PM | #
Do you really think that Rowling would kill of Harry? I mean this is a children’s series and if she just killed of Harry it would ddemoralize all the children…Just Kidding but I still don’t think she would kill Harry off1
Posted on August 12, 2005 03:12 PM | #
Listen Harry, this is Sir Lord Aaron and I think I know much more than you. You list preposteric idea’s that will never happen. But i have reached just not hyothesis but an equivelant of the truth. And who are you to say what JK will and will not do. Your ide’s are not just fairy tales but also IRRELEVANT. For i am Sir Lord Aaron “the all knowing.”
Posted on August 12, 2005 07:45 PM | #
Dumbledore is asleep in his portrait, so maybe he is not dead after all?
Posted on August 12, 2005 08:25 PM | #
And am I the only one who thinks that Neville will have a much bigger part in the climax of the books than we might have imagined? Remember, if you will, what we learned in OotP about him. Remember what was said about him in the explanation of the prophecy. Maybe Harry IS a horcrux. Maybe Neville somehow IS the threat Voldemort did not see.
Posted on August 12, 2005 08:36 PM | #
Sir Lord Aaron,
I don’t care what you think because I still have my ideas… Okay. And you are not JK So you can’t say what she will do either! I will have my opinion and you’ll have yours…
I think Dumbledore isn’t dead because maybe his portrait appeared because he “former” headmaster of Hogwarts. And it never says Umbridge’s portrait was there! So maybe what if it is? Or maybe t only appears for headmasters/mistresses that actually worked in the office. So maybe his portrait didn’t wake up because he wasn’t dead yet! Maybe the portrait only wakes upi when he/she is dead! And I agree with you Geo… I think Neville will have a bigger part in the climax of the seventh book…
Posted on August 12, 2005 09:29 PM | #
Guys…some very interesting comments out there but this is what i think
RAB is Regulus.I Ok..Now this is what is:
Regulus was to find this horcrux and take the locket and bring it to the Black house where it will be kept. Regulus filled the goblet with a potion given to him by Snape. Sirius & Regulus appear to die so that Harry inherits the Black Mansion and along with it the locket.Dumbledore destroys the other horcrux and finally takes harry with him to the horcrux and forces harry to tell him to finish drinking the potion. Dumbledore is not stupid not to differentiate between the 2 potions. Dumbledore and harry returns back and Snape ‘kills’ dumbledore. But here is the glitch. When voldermort used the avada kedavra against Cedric in the GOF Cedric just lumped and fell dead. He wasn’t blasted or anything. Moreover Snape might have said a vebal spell but must have paid more focus on a non-verbal spell which just sends dumbledore flying. When he’s falling to the ground buckbeak comes right on cue and puts on the ground.Then a polyjuice potion is fed to a dead death eater with dumbledore’s hair so as to look like dumbledore. Now there is alot of time between dumbledore being ‘killed’ by Snape to the time he is found dead. So … All this is being done so that Voldermort thinks that Dumbledore is dead. Now..I believe that Dumbledore wants Harry to believe that he is dead for some reason..1 being voldermort can read harry’s mind as they are linked together. Now about the potrait… Why i don’t think it is because dumbledore is dead.
1.Dumbledore is sleeping in the potrait…It could be just abother picture because in the pictures do move but they can’t speak or see outside.
2.If he was dead then he would be able to talh..like the fat lady…
3. If died having anger that snape cheated him then he would become a ghost.
Finally Harry is not the 7th Horcrux..Neville is.
And the prophecy will be fulfilled. Voldermort will do th e avada kedavra at Harry but Neville will come in the way. Thus as the final Horcrux is destroyed Voldermort himself will die thus fulfilling the prophecy.
Posted on August 13, 2005 01:53 AM | #
Harry Potter my favorite character.I love this movie.
Posted on August 13, 2005 02:31 AM | #
i think (think) that neville will somehow help harry kill voldemort (dont know how). i dont think that harry is a horocrux because voldemort is always trying to kill him, and thats like killing part of yourself! And i dont think that harry will go back to hogwarts, because like, it will get shut down. and then after all these years ron and hermione might date each other.
Posted on August 13, 2005 06:04 AM | #
Hey, I’m back again! Anyways, yea, the idea w/Neville seems very good, but I don’t think that Neville isa Horcrux. Because if Voldemort was to just kill Neville and then die, who would kill the very last Horcrux? (Voldemort!) Because Dumbledore said that Voldemort is indeed the last Horcrux, so who would then kill him??? This also leads us to think if Harry really is indeed a Horcrux, because if he is, then what would happen if he did kill Voldemort, who would kill the part of Voldemort in Harry??? I dunno, I just kinda have the feeling that Harry is a Horcrux, even against all the evidence and what-not. Also, the thought about Borgin and Burkes is very interesting. I’m torn between whether to think that R.A.B. is Sirius, or possibly Burkes, or even like you said, some character that may not have been pulled into full perspective. I’m not very sure about the whole Dumbledore alive/dead thing, so I’ll just leave it for the time being, and dwell on it later. So, until then!!!
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:25 AM | #
I agree with Dj W!ldc@rd… I think that Neville is a Horcrux so then when Voldemort uses Avada Kedavra on Harry Neville will take the hit and die… Therefore destroying the last Horcrux… So then Harry can kill the mortal Voldemort… I also think the Polyjiuice potion is a good idea… But I had one more idea… What if Dumbledore is another unregistered Animagi? So maybe Fawkes already had left Hogwarts when Dumbledore was supposedly killed so then Dumbledore could have supposedly been Fawkes and everybody would think that including the Dark Lord! And if you think that Snape would die cuz he didn’t full fill the unbreakable wow… There is no time limitin those… Because Malfoy failed with the potion and the necklace and the Unbreakble wow states that if Malfoy fails and Snape doesn’t help him Snape should die then… But he didn’t…Proving there is no time limit!
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:04 AM | #
Just a couple notes:
1. Since when does a person need to be dead to appear in a portrait?
2. Why did Dumbledore send Harry out to find Snape, then stun Harry to keep him there? IMO Dumbledore wanted Harry there to witness the “killing.” Yes, it was pre-arranged for Snape to “kill” Dumbledore, that’s why Harry was to go find Snape to get him there. Once Dumbledore saw that Snape was coming, Dumbledore froze Harry to keep him there as a witness. Harry needed to believe that Dumbledore was dead. Throughout previous books, Dumbledore always tried to control what Harry was thinking (knowing the Voldemort could read Harry’s mind).
3. No one has mentioned this yet….at the end of OotP, Bellatrix noted that an Unforgivable Curse had to be meant/enjoyed before it would work (p810). Yes, all throughout the books, it’s always been a question as to Snape’s loyalty. Do we believe Dumbledore? If so, Snape could not possibly have wanted nor enjoyed killing Dumbledore and it could not have happened.
4. As for the Unbreakable Vow, we do not know exactly what task Draco was to accomplish for Voldemort (only conjecture)…nor do we know the time frame by which it had to be completed.
IMO…Dumbledore is still alive.
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:41 AM | #
The guy above me is crazy! Dumbledore is dead. But i think Harry is going to be taught by Dumbledore’s portrait.
Posted on August 13, 2005 12:11 PM | #
a potrait, dats just silly:P
dumbledore is an amzing wizard, and he duz own the office where the epotrait is, so he cud charm it, and i like the dumbledore = animagi theory
as for the horcruxes
1= locket *obviously*
2= the ring dumbledore had
3= tom riddle’s diary
4= Nagini *why would harry be told of an animal being an horcrux being a bad thing, if it is quite irrevolant
5= Helga’s Hufflepuff’s goblet
6= sumfing of Rowena Ravenclaw
and 7= something of Godric Gryffindor, fer example *Harry heir of Gryffindor* theory, or sumfing stupid, like the sorting hat or sumfing:), or Voldemort, or what about Voldemort’s most trusted servant….Snape, my theory, dumbledore wanted harry to witness Snape killing Dumbledore *or perhaps he is till alive……* so harry would finish off Snape the horcrux. and all the death eaters want to be the Dark Lord’s most faithful servant, and him being apart of him must have sum benefit *LIKE HE WONT KILL YOU* and snape is nevr afraid of the Voldemort’s wrath, like when he killed Dumbledore instead of Malfoy….
????FAWKES = ANIMAGUS????
Posted on August 13, 2005 01:30 PM | #
Well if the following 6 are Horcruxes:
1= locket *obviously*
2= the ring dumbledore had
3= tom riddle’s diary
4= Nagini *why would harry be told of an animal being an horcrux being a bad thing, if it is quite irrevolant
5= Helga’s Hufflepuff’s goblet
6= sumfing of Rowena Ravenclaw
Then the 7th part must be in Lord Voldermort… But what I think is that he doen’t have anything of Ravenclaw’s but in HBP when Dumbledore showed Harry the memory of Voldermort coming to ask Dumbledore for the DADA job you remember his hand flicks to his wand? Well then I think that he might have jinxed DADA job but also he made the Sorting Hat a Horcrux… And if he didn’t jinx the job and made the Hat a Horcrux…Then I think that it was just a coincidence that all the teachers got ka-poofed…
Posted on August 13, 2005 03:55 PM | #
well i think everyone who said harry is the final horcrux is insanely stupid, Voldemort DILIBEREATLY made 7 horcruxs so if he happend to be one, he would be some wierd 8th one, and that would be stupid. Also i heard someone say that harry might be it cause voldemort would die if harry did or something like that b/c he couldnt live wothout part of his soul, well they have already destroyed some of these horcruxs and voldemort lives on so bye bye to that theory, but who knows if harry is the final horcrux then i will stop reading these books and considered them a waste of my time, cause that is just lame. That snape theory makes alot more sense than the Harry theiry that is for sure, but i still doubt he is a horcrux either, and i doubt highly Fawkes to be an animagus either, bec. i dont think animagus would be able to burn themselfs down and regrow as fawkes has.
Posted on August 13, 2005 04:06 PM | #
I agree with Robby… Any body who think taht Harry is a Horcrux is INSANE! I think Voldermort only made 6 Horcruxes…And the 7th part of his soul is in himself… So here are my predictions for the Horcruxes…
1. Slytherin’s locket
2. Hufflepuff’s cup
3. Marvolo Gaunt’s Ring
4. Something of Ravenclaw’s or Gryffindor’s
5. The Sorting Hat
6. Riddle’s Diary
7. The last part of Voldermort’s soul is in him.
So the diary and the ring are destroyed for sure. We can assume that the locket is the one in Sirius’s house. So that means if all my predictions are correct Then Harry has to come back to Hogwarts once for the Sorting Hat even if he doesn’t come back for schooling
Posted on August 13, 2005 04:22 PM | #
If regulus black is RAB, then what does the A stand for?
Besides regulus was killed by Lord Voldermort afer trying to back out from the death eaters 15years earlier because he panicked about what he was being asked to do. I therefore dont think that even if he did manage to live that he would be trying to thwart the dark lord.
Posted on August 13, 2005 09:46 PM | #
If Regelus Black is RAB then the A is is middle name… Well Sirius said that there were rumors… He never said it was proven…So maybe Regelus was killed by Voldermort for trying to destroy the Horcruxes… So then Voldermort put it out with his spies abput backing off because he didn’t want everybody t know he had Horcruxes…Especially the Order of the Phoenix….But I still do not think that RAB is regelus because Jk rowling will lead us to belive one thing and then do something none of us expected… And I think that everyone thought of Regelus Black as soon as they finished the book. And I don’t think any of us thought that she would make Snape DADA teacher… But she did so i think that she will do what we think she won’t do… So expect the unexpected1
Posted on August 13, 2005 09:57 PM | #
i was reading somewhere else that the name alphard, pops up somewhere in the 5th book when harry and sirius are talking about the black family tapestry. he was like sirus and regulus’s uncle, so maybee that could be regulus’s middle name???
but like could it be possible that RAB is more than one person?
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:03 PM | #
Yes I also remember reading something about the name Alphard in the 5th book… He was Tonkses Mother’s brother or something like that! They are talking about the Black Tapestry and then Sirius is saying how his cousin Andomera or something was his favorite cousin… NO WAIT! He was the one who left Sirius the money! So maybe that is his middle name…But I also support the theory of RAB being more than one person… Maybe Snape was involved… I was reading somewhere that it was Snape and Regelus and Snape made a potion that prevents death and put it in the basin.. So when Dumbledore went there he drank the potion which appeared to torture him but maybe it prevented death… So maybe Snape really did use Avada Kedavra but the potion prevented Dumbledore from dying but put him into a kinda trance.
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:30 PM | #
im not sure that snape would have been invovled. in the books, snape hated sirius. But then if snape is really on the good side, maybe dumbledore asked him to work with regulus so it didnt seem obvious? but i think that jk will do something like really twisted so it’ll be really hard to guess.
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:40 PM | #
RE: Sarah (comment 28) – THANK YOU! In all of the boards I have been on since finishing book 6, you are the first person I saw who shares my phoenix theory. A phoenix actually does die b4 being reborn. So DD’s death would have been real (which would have explained the portrait as well as Harry being freed from the spell), but not permanent. The only question I have is: if DD does come back to life, will he vanish from the portrait?
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:33 PM | #
Out of the blue this thought popped in my head. In book 1 when Harry got his wand, it was mentioned that it was made with the same thing (wanna say phoenix feather but my memory may be off) that was in Voldy’s wand and that they were the only 2 like that. Any chance that Harry’s wand could be the horcrux?
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:49 PM | #
Ya..its me again.. Its quite long but has a lot of stuff in it.
Somethin else popped in my head. In the 2nd book wen lucious malfoy was about to use avada kedavra against harry , dobby could stop him. And wher can u find the highest number of house elves? Hogwarts. And wat is the only creature that can apparate inside hogwarts?House - Elves.I don’t know wat but thats a coincidence or wat? And why does Hagrid mention buckbeak around twice or thrice in the book. Rowling purposely put that in i guess.SO I think buckbeak picked dumbledore while he was falling. In the lord of the rings an eagle takes gandalf from a tower.so this seems to be another coincidence. Now, one of the most safest and closest places to hogwarts is the forbidden forest. Dumbledore could be there along with Hagrids brother. Who is again mentioned by Hagrid in the book.(Hagrid has a habit of revealing important things accidently) .so this seems to be another coincidence. RAB is almost 100% Regelus Alphard Black.
About the horcruxes this is the list.
1. Slytherin’s locket ]-> Stuff
2. Hufflepuff’s cup ]-> Of
3. Something of Gryffindor’s]-> Hogwarts
4. Something of Ravenclaw’s ]-> Founders
5. Marvolo Gaunt’s Ring
6. Riddle’s Diary
7. Voldermorts human body.
And now for the final part….What happenned when voldermort killed Harry’s parents could have been this:
Vorldermort said the avada kedavra at potter but his mother protected him with the strongest counter spell….Love. Now at that point Lily died ad with this killing Voldermort accidentally created a 8th horcrux - Harry. Thus a part of his soul went into harry and voldermort was weakened.Thus harry got the scar and was linked to voldermort, got a part of his abilities like parseltongue. He exceeded the most powerful magical number of 7 by one thus losing a lot of his power.
He either realises it or not:
1. if he has realised that he had accidently created a 8th horcrux he wants to kill harry, destroy the 8th horcrux get it back to the most powerful number in magic 7. For this reason he wnated the Philosophers stone so that even if he destroys his horcrux he can still live forever.
2. If he does not realise this he wants to kill harry because he heard half the prophecy from snape and wants no one in his way on his way to glory.
After reading the book, wat strikes me most is Snape. He is a wizard as powerful as dumbledore and voldermort. He is amazing at potions,occlumency,legilemens,defence against the dark arts and from his potions book even at making new spells. Now the only problem is he isn’t as smart as the other two.
I have a question in the ooftp dumbledore talks about a room in the department of mysteries that is always locked up with some power….the power of something….He talks about this wen he talks bout voldermorts weakness. and more over i dont think sirius is dead.
Im sorry this is os long
Posted on August 14, 2005 03:25 AM | #
Im sorry but i made a mistake in my earlier comment. Voldermort coukdn’t have accidently created a 8th horcrux coz u have to say a spell for it. Since harry was in godrics hollow - the place were james and lily and potter lived maybe there was something of godric gryffindor there. Now voldermort killed wanted to kill harry and along with it create a horcrux on something of gryfindor. He must have said the spell and the spell might have been in such a way that it referred to both harry and the thing of gryffindor. Thus 2 horcruxes were made at the same time making Voldermort absolutely weak. He wasn’t prepared to lose another part of soul. Thus i came back to the 8 horcrux theory.
Posted on August 14, 2005 04:48 AM | #
Hey im human i made one more mistake…. i DON’T think anything of ravenclaw is a horcrux…Instead it is Nagini who is the other horcrux as brian said.Now I believe in the next book Patil sisters will somehow help Harry to kill Nagini because Nagini is an Indian Snake and why on earth would rowling put two indian sisters in the book???? Just a thought. One more thing. Sirius in the 5th book tells Regulus was asked to do something but he refused. I think as Sirius was James and Lily’s secret keeper Voldermort wanted Regulus to use the imperious curse on his brother or some other thing on Sirius to know were Jmaes and lily was….
Posted on August 14, 2005 06:40 AM | #
err those who tink harry is a horcrux i tink so too.voldemort made him a horcrux so that if harry lives voldemort does.and those who tink that voldemort will die after killin harry …WRONG he has other horcruxes >.
Posted on August 14, 2005 07:46 AM | #
i think harry is going to need a yoda type figure like luke skywalker had to make him this unbelievable wizard he will need to be. he was so ineffective against snape it was imbarassing. this teacher figure will have to be like the spirit of dumbledore or R.A.B. who obviously is a very powerful wizard. who ever he is.
Posted on August 14, 2005 07:57 AM | #
err hi again 1st thing those readin post plz i wanna talk/debate abt HP.2nd…although it is 99.99999999…% chance that regelus black is RAB there are still some others with thhat inital in the book.one may be at the beggining of the book(hint,hint)
Posted on August 14, 2005 08:13 AM | #
err why hasnt anyone started to talk abt harry n ginny?
Posted on August 14, 2005 08:25 AM | #
i dont know if dumbledore is dead or not. but one thing is for sure is that dumbledore could have taken on malfoy even without a wand and he also could have freed harry to curse malfoy. so he definatly wanted this to unfold the way it did.
also throughout the beginning of the book a main point was that people could be impersonated and therefore they needed codes to know for sure if someone was who they said they were. but nothing really unfolded from that.
i wonder if anyone thinks that someone was not who they were throughout the book and especially in the last scene.
i havent seen any posts concerning this.
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:09 AM | #
And my final post is to say that while we think and rack our brains on whether dumbledore died or not Rowling must be grinning coz she has this thing to change the whole freakin stroy in one book. FOR EXAMPLE - The Horcruxes. I mean where were the horcruxes in the last 5 books & im sure she #’ll come up with some really screwed up thing for snape maybe good or bad. Wat puzzles me is snape is the guy in whom albus dumbledore and lord voldermort trusted everything. If he is actually intelligent (which i don’t think he very much is) He might as well end up as the main enemy of harry potter. He knows how to destroy voldermort and he’s already ‘killed’ Dumbledore(Let the debate go on) So in the end he might be the One the Minsitry of Magic has to be afraid of…..If turns out to be good then he might end up as the minister of magic(although i really don’t want that to happen) coz he is the most powerful wizard of all time gaining the the trust of two of THE greatest wizards (who by the way wants to kill the other). How the hell does he manage that?
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:43 AM | #
i think the polyjuice potion will be used in some way again.
the only thing we can be sure of is rowling has another trick planned.
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:46 AM | #
I agree with Jay… There has to be something about impersonating people. Here is my theory…
I think Voldermort just said Regelus had been killed but really sent his Death Eaters hunting Regelus… If Regelus was RAB then he couldn’t destroy the locket because he had to run for and didn’t have enoguh time to do the destroying. So he took refuge with Dumbledore and Dumbledore kept him hidden… After the 5th book when Sirius dies Regelus decides it is time to come out of hiding and help the Order. So he takes the Polyjuice Potion and impersonates Dumbledore the whole year but is still getting instructions from Dumbledore on what to do and say. And Snape knew all this. So he really did kill but he didn’t kill Dumbledore he killed Regelus! And the reason he really could kill(because you need to enjoy it) was because he hated Sirius so he could also hate Regelus and also becaus ehe could have gotten that old Death Eater part of him back and been angry at Regelus for betraying Lord Voldermort! So Dumbledore is in hiding but alive! And I had another thought if Snape really did help Regelus get the Lockett Horcru then he wouldn’t sign his name ecause Voldermort still probably trusted Snape but all the Death Eaters knew that Regelus had betrayed Lord Voldermort! There are two more theories I support….
One that says that Dumbledore is an Animagi of a Phoenix or is really a Phoenix… Because Phoenixes do die before they are reborn… So Dumbledore could have really died and then be born again. OR here is my other theory…
I support the Witherwings(Buckbeak) Polyjuice Potion theory. Where Snape didn’t really kill Dumbledore and then Buckbeak stops Dumbledore from falling and take s the potion so Dumbledore goes into hiding and then Buckbeak was baried but Fawkes(if that really was Fawkes) made the tomb so Buckbeak could get out of the tomb without breaking it!
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:52 AM | #
i have a question. it shocks me how stupid harry is sometimes. he sees the name half blood prince and he knows voldomort was half blood. yet nothing clicks.
Posted on August 14, 2005 12:26 PM | #
To Harry: I don’t think that Regulus was impersonating Dumbledore thru the polyjuice potion because Dumbledore was pulling his own memories from his brain to show Harry in the pensieve. The polyjuice potion doesn’t allow you to take the other person’s memories, just their form.
Now, no one has mentioned this and I’ve been waiting, so I have to bring it up. Why would Dumbledore trust Snape after knowing that Snape betrayed James and Lily? What did Snape say that made Dumbledore trust him. I think that Snape was truly sorry because he was in love with Lily. She was great at potions, just like Snape, and when James was teasing Snape when they were in school, Lily stood up for him. I think Snape truly was sorry because he didn’t mean for Lily to get killed. Also, I think he has been planning this to get close to Voldemort so he can kill him. He wants revenge for Lily. I agree that Harry isn’t strong enough to take down Voldemort by himself, but I think that Snape will actually help him. Hermione is smart and I believe she and Ron will help Harry find the other horcruxes and destroy them. So, when Harry does finally face Voldemort, all of the other horcruxes will be gone, except Harry (who is a horcrux) and Voldemort, and they will both die.
Posted on August 14, 2005 02:30 PM | #
To JDO: Dumbledore was never pulling the memories from his head he was always pulling them from a bottle in his cloak! SO that is why I think Regelus was inpersonating Dumbledore. Also Harry can’t be Horcrux unless you are saying that JK is gonig to kill Harry off.
Now here is what I think… Snape loved Lily and he didn’t want her to be killed. What Snape did was ha told Voldermort the Prophecy reffered to the Potters! He didn’t tell him the exact thing… So Snape asked Voldermort to try and spare Lily… So he could marry her because I also think that Lily kinda liked Snape. So Voldermort tried as people have said he gave Lily a chance he said she didn’t have to die… BUT he didn’t bother giving James any chances… I think that Snape wanted James dead because he thought Lily would have married him if it hadn’t been for James…
Posted on August 14, 2005 03:28 PM | #
i agree with the lily snape thing i was thinking about thier common potion mastery. also voldermort said to lily she didnt have to die. maybe snape told him to spare lily. its possible but than again it doesnt fit with the mind set of voldermort. he doesnt spare anybody especially if its only that snape asked him as a favor. voldermort has no friends. he doesnt do favors for anyone.
i think this fawkes thing is a lil far fetched. in fact i dont think there is a chance dumbledore is still alive. he will be a factor somehow in the final book but not as a living person.
Posted on August 14, 2005 04:04 PM | #
My opinions are as follows:
1) Harry is NOT a horcrux. Tom wanted to make his last horcrux with Harry’s death, but in the end he couldn’t because he sorta got himself screwed over, so he made Nagini his last one, this was, of course all stated in the HBP.
2) Either Ginny will follow Harry, or they will get back together in the end of the book and get endgaged or something. Or, if Ginny follows him, maybe she’ll get killed. (cont. 3)
3) Harry is strong enough to kill Tom by himself. I believe a main part in this book is the strength of obsessive love (stated with the love-potion). I know for a fact how strong obsessive love is, therefore is Ginny dies (as stated in 2) or if someone else dies, then the obsessive love will give him enough strength to fight on. It could alose be that he already has enough hatred in him to fight Tom with the death of everyone he’s loved so far (other than Ginny, of course)
4) Is Albus dead? Well, that is really confusing. He could be just simply dead, and perhaps all portraits sleep when they are first made of the dead. Or, he could be a phoenix and have revived and that’s why the portrait was sleeping. Also, pheonixes can disapparate/apparate, even in Hogwarts (as seen in OoTP) and perhaps Albus never did die in the first time and he grabbed Fawkes’s tail and disappareted with him. I have a feeling Albus, nor Fawkes are gone quite yet.
5) I believe R.A.B. is Regulus Black. Some have said that J.K. likes to make us think something than make it completely different. What if she thought that everyone would think she was trying to make them think Regulus and it not be, so she changed it to be Regulus (not sure if that makes sense to anyone but it makes sense to me).
6) Snape. Well, he’s hard to say, he’s always seemed to be the evil one and all, but you never know with these books. However, I believe that it was preplanned and that Snape has indeed killed Albus upon Albus’s orders to save Snape. I believe Snape will play a vital role of the 7th book, and I don’t believe Tom is going to be too big of a role, maybe comes in in a few chapters at the end where they fight.
7) This is what I believe the Horcuxes to be:
i) Diary
ii) Gaunt’s ring
iii) Locket
iv) Nagini
v) Hufflepuff Cup
vi) Something of Ravenclaw’s or Gryffindors (I’m thinking more Godric)
vii) Tom himself
And that’s my views.
Posted on August 14, 2005 06:13 PM | #
Regulus is dead, or number 12 grimmauld place would have been passed to him instead of harry…..
right?
Posted on August 14, 2005 07:21 PM | #
Not neccisarily considering that Sirius’s will made it Harry’s. Hints to Albus being a Phoenix:
He is a registered animagus (confirmed by JK Rowling, I believe)
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Albus+Dumbledore&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=Albus%20Dumbledore
Posted on August 14, 2005 08:04 PM | #
Okay, i have a hunch.
Dumbledore had already visited the cave before he took harry with him, so he would have already known that an RAB character had taken the true horcrux. So then he asked Snape to whip up a potion that can bring some one back to life, and then put that potion into the stone basin. but one of the effects of the potion would cause Dumbledore great pain from drinking it and weaken him. but, dumbledore planned all this out of snape killing him but the potion would cause his body to erupt flames but, dumbledore came out in a form of a pheonix and turn back to Dumbledore in secret. But you may ask why would dumbledore take harry to retrieve the fake horcrux when he already had known that it was fake. it was because he wanted to show harry what it might be like to retrieve horcruxes if dumbledore and harry would split up.-(in my opinion)
so snape had killed killed dumbledore but is really still good, but now he will not be suspected by the death eaters now.
Now i have an idea about Harry being a horcrux. in the final confrontation with Voldemort and Harry, Neville and harry will both help out with the death of Bellatrix and after Harry has killed Bellatrix i think he will transfer the part of voldemort inside of him into a Horcrux which he will destroy. i think that would be the final horcrux besides voldemort. so now voldemort’s horcruxes are all destroyed and he will finally be defeated in the end some how…
please comment on my ideas.
by all means call me a stupid bum sweat baker that has no idea about what he is talking about.
but just comment
Posted on August 14, 2005 09:13 PM | #
CyberJohn: I am not gong to call you astupid bum sweat baker that has no idea about what he is talking about. Because I agree with some of your ideas such as the whole Snape theory… But I do not like your part about Harry beigna Horcrux…
I agree with CyberJohn’s thing about about DUmbledore knowing about about the Horcrux.
Posted on August 14, 2005 09:29 PM | #
well im glad some one could make aout a little of what i had to say!
Posted on August 14, 2005 09:59 PM | #
Importance of Fawkes
The wand cores of both Harry Potter’s and Lord Voldemort’s wands come from the tail feathers of Dumbledore’s pet phoenix Fawkes who shares a bond with Dumbledore. It has also been established by the author that Dumbledore’s Patronus is in the form of a phoenix.
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:02 PM | #
Im sorry im probably pretty annoying but i was just wondering aloud to anyone.
does anyone have an idea about who that huge blonde death eater was in the end of the HBP???
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:09 PM | #
Yes i agree with DJW!ldc@rd… There has to be some significance to the fact that the core of HArry’s and Voldermort’s wands came from Dumbledore’s pet Phoenix… Maybe there is a way(if Dumbledore is dead) that he can come back through Harry’s and Voldermort’s wands if there is another Priori Incantem…
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:10 PM | #
I’ve just realised…neville’s middle name is augusta or sumthin rite? i tink its one of his parents…maybe…
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:19 AM | #
i noe im being dumb by postin twice but i just thought again…dumbledore did not visit the cave before(not thoroughly anyway)because he had to take a while to figure out how to get in.if he went in before, he would have not said anythin abt the blood payment.
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:29 AM | #
ok…im getting dumb…his parents are frank and alice…nvm >.
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:57 AM | #
fourth time in a row postin…err kinda dumb…it may be amelia bones who was said to haf died in the biggining of HBP which nobody else has ever said anythin abt from my post above….
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:07 AM | #
Okay, the thing about Albus already going to the cave, maybe. Snape, in the first book, said he could teach the students how to cheat death with a potion, so perhaps that is what he did. Why did Albus seem like he was trying desperately to figure out how to get in to the cave and such, I think, perhaps, it was to show to Harry that magic leaves traces and can always be found, therefor if they were to be split up for some reason, then Harry himself would perhaps be able to detect the reminance of magic.
Quote from answers.com
“In the ensuing battle, Sirius actually disappears - he falls through an arch and does not reappear; he is thereafter presumed dead. He was hit by a stunning spell by Bellatrix Lestrange, his own cousin. This sent Sirius through a mysterious veil, which is presumed to have killed him. This is still not solidly answered, and may be a plot in future Rowling works.” With this, perhaps Sirius will return in some way in the 7th book.
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:43 AM | #
i think whoever says that Dumbledore isn’t dead and that snape is innocent and that harry is a horcrux, are completely wrong.
jkr wouldn’t have said that somebody died in the book if somebody hadn’t died and also jkr keeps saying how dumbledore can be wrong. harry isn’t a horcrux because then jkr would have to kill harry in the end, and i don’t beleive so and also dumbledore says there’re only 7 horcruxes.
i’m not sure about regulus black. i mean, only somebody with extraordinary powers will be able to find the horcrux, and regulus doesn’t seem the type to me. personaly i think it’s a new character.
i think harry will find two horcruxes in the following places:
godric’s hollow-something of gryffindor
the house of that huflepuff lady-the cup
because voldemort likes to hide the horcruxes at places that something important has happened there e.g. the ring at the house of gaunt where he probably did his first murder, the cave where he tortured those kids and hogwarts(chamber of secrets-he opened it) where the diary was found.
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:43 AM | #
i also think that sirius wouldn’t return as jkr said that people don’t come back from the dead
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:45 AM | #
well ive got this reallly far fetched theory, but thats what rowling does right? im thinkin that dumbledore made a horcrux through fawkes. i think he killed aragog to do it.i mean its a perfect plan…a phoenix never dies. he didnt ever really have that cheery sound in his voice towards the end of the book. i dunno… its prolly wrong… but its a thought. dumbledore could still be alive?
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:21 AM | #
I don’t know why all of you are wrapped up in the portrait being the reason why dumbledore is dead. It said his picture was placed alongside the portraits of other dead headmasters. Never does it mention that you have to be dead to have your picture up there, and whos to say dumbledore didn’t bewitch it to go up there as a further decoy of his. He is not dead and the fact lies in the use of nonverbal spells. In every single book, spells that were taught during the year were used in great effect. The summoning charm for example was learned and immediately used to save harry from the dragon. Another for example, the patronus. The learning about werewolves. Learning to levitate in the first to beat the troll. All of these things and more were used yet if anyone can tell me where nonverbal spells were used yet please point out where. Rowling uses all spells in the end and this one hasn’t been used. It is obvious that Snape made it look like the killing curse but in fact did a different curse that looked like the adeva kedavra. As we also know he is good at making up spells and made one that looked like the adeva kedavra. One of you also mentioned dumbledore was not afraid to die. Correct, so why would he plead for snape not to kill him???? All of these things show that this is all part of a plan by dumbledore to trick voldemort into thinking he is dead, just like he let slip that he could do the same thing for malfoy!?!
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:12 AM | #
I absolutly disagree that Dumbledore is alive, just because he was “asleep in his portrait” All the portraits sleep! But I can’t understand why Harry didn’t think to go look in the head office and see if he was there.
Also Voldemort couldn’t possibly have made Harry a Horcrux, baecause the prophecy states that “neither can live while the other survives” and if Harry is supposed to be finding and destroying the horcruxes, and he some how found out that he was one, then how can he kill himself and then Voldemort?? It’s impossible!!
I also believe that Sirius is definetly dead, and i do not believe that Regules Black is RAB your only making that conecction because the first and last name fits in with the first and last letter of the initials, but does anyone know what Regulas’s middle name is? NO!
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:24 AM | #
and to add to the fact that if dumbledore is dead, what about the fawkes’ song. He always did this before healing, what if he is transferring the power to dumbledore to be reborn from his ashes. This would give credit to rowling to say that somebody died if they came back, and would also give an explanation to the flames at dumbledores funeral, as we have found out that flames do not harm witches or wizards (they just acted like it when muggles would tie them to stakes and attempt to burn them: remember)and also would explain the phoenix that came from the flames. So either my other theory is right that he isn’t dead or this other a bit more illogical course of action that he is reborn is true, dumbledore will be back.
In case he isn’t though, props to rowling for throwing this huge twist in her series. Really did anybody expect it??
Also didn’t the message inside the locket from RAB say he had destroyed the only real horcrux(the real locket) leaving voldemort mortal. That would mean he is free to die and no potter as the seventh horcrux. And does anybody know if they will be returning to school the next year because it sure doesn’t look like it.
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:25 AM | #
Ohh yeah one more thing that I have stumbled upon. Recall all things Snape says to harry in the very first ever potions class. WOLFSBANE, BEZOAR, and DRAUGHT OF LIVING DEATH. Hmm, lets see. WOLFSBANE used in book 3 for Lupin. BEZOAR used in book 6 by harry to save ron. DRAUGHT OF LIVING DEATH, made by who else than harry in book 6. Now look at the position that harry mentions dumbledore is lying in when he is on the ground. and I quote, from page 608 American edition “Dumbledore’s eyes were closed; but for the strange angle of his arms and legs, he might have been sleeping.” Hmm interesting all other things mention by snape in the first book have been used and not the draught of living death yet. This could easily be the place where rowling used it. It also coincides with dumbledore inching backward. This seemed important as harry was watching him yet nothing ever became of it. My theory is that he took the potion before snape came and inching backward was when he did it.
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:42 AM | #
i sorta agree with matt about R.A.B destroying the horcruxes, but hu is to say that harry and R.A.B will get along and both hunt the horcruxes.
Also i think that Fawkes is alot more significant than ‘just Dumbledore’s phoenix’.
And J.k *i think* confirmed that Dumbledore’s animagus is a phoenix. so maybe a switching spell *Dumbledore is very gifted at Transfiguration* or a Duplication spell will come into it, that Fawkes is actually Dumbledore’s animagus.
another hunch i have is to why Fawkes is in Harry’s & Voldemort’s wand. maybe when Dumbledore told tom in the orphange to go to Diagon Alley and everythng, maybe Dumbledore gave Ollivander a tale feather from Fawkes so that Fawkes could like ,be tied to Harry and Voldemort, like to constrict Voldemort from killing Harry in the fourth book.
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:04 AM | #
I think it is possible for harry to be a Horcrux and still live when Voldemort dies because, he could kill some death eater (like bellatrix) or someone and then transfer the part of voldemorts soul inside him into a horcrux and destroy it which makes Voldemort vulnerable now. (assumming all the other horcruxes are destroyed) just a hunch.
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:05 AM | #
and i like Matt’s theory abouth the Draught of Living Death, he is quite right.
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:07 AM | #
There are many good theories… But I think that Snape is still good because Harry calls him a coward and asks him to stand and fight like a man in the 6th book….When Harry calls him a coward he gets very angry becaus ehe just had to kill Dumbledore Which I think was a part of Dumbledore plan…. I agree with Easter…. DD has been to the cave before!
I also agree with Matt if DD portrait is there that doesn’t mean that he is dead… IT just so happens that all the Headmasters /mistresses that have portraits happen to be dead! So I also agree that DD made a Horcrux out of Fawkes by killing Aragog… But I think that when a Phoenix burns up the horcrux is destroyed…
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:40 AM | #
why is it that only hogwarts headmasters can talk to u from a painting after death but harry’s parents can’t. or any wizard for that matter. that doesnt make any sense to me.
another problem i have is harry said after he found out about the horcruxes “thats why voldermort didnt die” so how does it work every time you die a hrcrux is used up or no. cause it would make sense that if u die a horcrux gets used up and thats why making 7 is better than 2. if so that it gets used up how come one wasnt used up already after voldermort died trying to kill harry.
can anyone answer these questions
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:22 PM | #
It didn’t say how Aragog died but when you think about it it doesn’t make sense that Dumbledore killed Aragog because Hagrid doesn’t say that Aragog just died like that(with a snap of a finger) it says that aragog was dieing and then he died… But then when you think about again Hermionie asks Hagrid “couldn’t Dumbledore do anything” well Hagrid might have asked but Dumbledore wasn’t there so he might have left a not or something so Dumbledore got to know and then he went and killed Aragog…that is why Hagrid replies”Dumbledore is to busy to handle things like this”… But also notice that Hagrid acted like Aragog was dead the first time he told Harry, Ron, and Hermionie… So maybe he did tell Dumbledore and Dumbledore kneew he had to make a horcrux soon so I think that DD told Hagrid that he had to kill Aragog… That is why Hagrid seemed sad from the beggining…
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:26 PM | #
who says u can make a horcrux by killing an animal. it wouldnt be such a big deal then. i just stepped on a really big bug. i dont think animals qualify. when whatever his name is told voldermort about it he said it requires something horrible to rip apart your soul. killing a bug (granted a really big bug) would 100% not work. besides that dumbledore thought the idea of a horcrux as horrible. he would never do it.
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:34 PM | #
I think you are right jay. Slughorn said you had to commit a great sin to make a horcrux… Everybody steps on plenty of bugs… But notice on thing they never talk about any bugs in Hogwarts… Well that is kinda stupid soooooooooo it doesn’t matter
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:59 PM | #
dumbledores man, read my post before the last i have 2 questions i want to know if u could answer
Posted on August 15, 2005 03:06 PM | #
Well Jay: There areen’t any portraits of Lily and James… And well if you are talking about Harry’s album maybe the photo has to be in a special frame( such as the one Hogwarts Headmasters are in) to be able to talk… Horcruxes don’t get used up after the guy dies…
Posted on August 15, 2005 04:00 PM | #
I think that the pictures of people have to be like portraits or paintings to be able to speak.
because in photographs it would make sense if the photographs just copied the behavior of the people in the picture. but paintings i guess take more effort to make so, they talk. (i guess)
and i don’t think dumbledore would make a horcrux for himself because being the great wizard he was (or is) he would probably find better ways to prolong life or to stop death.
Posted on August 15, 2005 04:37 PM | #
Dumbledore would not prolong his life. He even says himself that he is not afraid of death. He is just living out his life so there is no way he made a horcrux
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:49 PM | #
Okay,
I have been reading the comments on this site for a few days now and I think I will finally post one of my own now.
“hem hem”
to all of those who think Snape is truly on the dark side. that is an idea that i think is very stupid.
for one why would Snape have been so quick to make an unbreakable vow with mrs. malfoy when that was a lot to ask of someone?
because Snape had obviously already made a vow with dumbledore that he had to promise to protect students at hogwarts (so he would already be protecting draco like Narcissa wanted, and it might explain why snape was saving harry’s neck in the first book) and i think that dumbledore and snape had already planned dumbledores death. (exactly how CyberJohn had said in comment #94) so Snape made those vows with Narcissa because they went right along with his ‘suppossed’ vow with Dumbledore. make sense?
i have also heard that there might very well be an 8th book too. so we can only wait now.
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:51 PM | #
If Regulus Black is RAB, is it possible that he was killed by voldemort and came back as a ghost and his ghost destroyed the locket to get revenge?
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:58 PM | #
You see, I don’t remember it saying that Regulus was dead, just that he was supposed to be killed for betraying Tom…
I really doubt Albus would make a horcrux himself, because it doesn’t seem like something he would do. Albus is a very powerful wizard, and I doubt he would need a horcrux to survive even if he wanted to. Albus is a 150 years old, I think he wants to die at that age :-P …
In the fifth book, when Albus battle’s Tom, Tom summons a shield, which, judging by its discription, I doubt is the same as the “protego” shield charm. I believe it is a much stronger, more powerful shield, which I believe will come in again…
I also completely believe that Albus is, in some way or form, still alive and that Snape is innocent. I believe that the reason why JKR said that someone is dead, is to make people believe Albus is truely dead, but “surprise” everyone with his return in a seventh book…
I don’t really believe that Sirius will be back, what I stated earlier was someone’s elses opinion that he was never confirmed dead…
I am really hoping that there are 8+ books, although I think she was signed for only 7. I hope after the 7th, there are more in some way. Perhaps a background, like the “first war.” I history to main characters, ie: Albus, Lupin, James, Lily, Sirius, Molly, Aurthur, etc. I would prefer to see something explaining how everyone got to where they are in the first place. How James and Lily betrayed Tom “thrice” and same with the Longbottoms.
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:28 PM | #
I am not sure… I am sure that Snape was innocent but I am not sure of the fact thta Dumbledore is alive or dead. I agree with CyberJohn. I think the reason portraits can talk is because more effort has been put into them… But then that wouldn’t explain how the picture of Phienas Nigelus in Sirius’s house can talk! Easter: the Potters and Longbottoms didn’t betray LV thrice… They defied him thrice… This is what is says *The one with power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies to those who have thrice defied the him…* So as Dumbledore thinks it was Harry because *he marked him as his equal*…
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:48 PM | #
Yes, well, defied, betrayed, close enough. I want to know how the defied him. Btw, I think the portaits have to be enchanted to talk, with spells, and such, not just someone taking a picture, or drawing one.
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:58 PM | #
so then why didnt harrys parents do one for him. im not so sure the magical paintings are actually panited. dumbledores painting just appeared.
also dumbledore said voldermort would prefer these horcruxes to the sorcereres stone because he doesnt want to be dependent on it. but if he dies he is still dependent on someone to help him to be brought back to human form.
plus if ull argue that harrys parents werent good enough to make the painting. voldermort certainly should have made one just in case someone killed and he needed someone to bring him back to life.
also why dont they use dobby and the house elves to help them fight. they seem to be the most powerful of anyone. they can apperate in hogwarts and dobby beat the … out of lucias malfoy. they could have taken on all the death eaters no problem
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:47 PM | #
Good point about the house-elves. Perhaps they will come in the 7th book. Personally, I say Dobby kicks a$$. Dobby likes to protect Harry as much as he can, he even fights with Kreacher just for saying bad things about Harry, so perhaps Dobby will be in the 7th with a little role.
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:02 PM | #
hey what if the sorting hat is a horcrux, idk if anybody said that yet
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:05 PM | #
hey i will be on tommorrow(aug.16), all day, i have some mind blowing speculations look for me. i have too many for me to start tonight
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:08 PM | #
how does a person get access to a horcrux?
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:19 PM | #
About the house elves thing. Yeah they r really powerful but one can’t use them to fight because the death eaters will have a pretty simple counter attack - socks. Then the house elves will be on their side causing more the trouble…
In the 6th book narcissa does not tell wat malfoys mission is nor does snape. It could be anything. And if voldermort wanted revenge on lucious he could well have killed draco himself…No it was something else that draco’s mission was…
Anyways back to my Snape is the most powerful wizard thing. Come on guys …. he is the greatest (ill kick myself in the back for saying this)coz as i told u he freakin got the trust of two of the most ever greatest wizards Dumbledore and Voldermort with their highest trust while each of them knows that Snape is with the other.
How on good ol’ mother earth does he manage that????????????????????????????????
Posted on August 15, 2005 11:22 PM | #
Yeah..and one more thing i dont trust Rufus Scrim guy. And wy did voldermort kill amelia bones and the other female???? And umbridge … why is she still there in the ministry?? And by the way another theory on wat happened to dumbledore…..
This theory saying snape is evil… Snape used the avada kedavra on dumbledore which hit him squarely on the chest sending him flying out. He falls on the ground dead….#Then at the grave he is reboen from the ashes and comes out as a phoenix.
By the way i know the above theory is stupid…
One more piece of info….
The guy who works at Hogs Head is Aberforth - Dumbledore’s brother …confirmed by JK Rowling.
Posted on August 15, 2005 11:29 PM | #
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:31 AM | #
ok restart sara r.a.b is reuglus alphard black.brian dumbledore didnt hear the prophecy until voldemort had his wand.dumbledore wuld not even noe that the feathers wuld save harry nor did he tink voldemort wuld go after harry…it culd be neville at that time.ollivander did not immediately give harry his wand.he had to check millions of wands obviously he did not purposely give harry that wand
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:35 AM | #
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Posted on August 16, 2005 06:39 AM | #
mrguy, YOU are a cleany weeny! stop the stupid so am i crap
Posted on August 16, 2005 07:26 AM | #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter:_Book_Seven
thought you with like that one
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:54 AM | #
One thing that doesn’t seem to be discussed: Why did Dumbledore have such trust in Snape? I agree that Snape is an undercover good guy, but there must be something more that we don’t know. Brothers or something?
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:11 AM | #
Well i think that Snape made an unbreakeable vow with Dumbledore so he wouldnt betray him. But then again snape could be bad because it was said that dumbledore has made mistakes before.
I dont think DUmbledore is . When Dumbledore was with malfoy and malfoy said if i dont kill you they will kill me and my family. (or along those lines) and Dumbledore he cannot kill you if you are already . Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completly than you can imagine. So i think that if Dumbledore could make people think that someone is why couldnt he do it to himself this way if he did it
there is no suspision of snape he can still look for horcruxes and snape is voldemorts top man.
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:13 PM | #
I made some mistakes so this is the real one.
I dont think DUmbledore is . When Dumbledore was with malfoy and malfoy said if i dont kill you they will kill me and my family. (or along those lines) and Dumbledore he cannot kill you if you are already . Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completly than you can imagine. So i think that if Dumbledore could make people think that someone is why couldnt he do it to himself this way if he did it
there is no suspision of snape he can still look for horcruxes and snape is voldemorts top man.
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:36 PM | #
I think that Zelph is totally right and he is a genius.
Then i think that Mrs. Figg will turn in to dumbledore
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:59 PM | #
And she will Unleash all her cats on to the eaters.
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:59 PM | #
I dont think DUmbledore is . When Dumbledore was with malfoy and malfoy said if i dont kill you they will kill me and my family. (or along those lines) and Dumbledore he cannot kill you if you are already . Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completly than you can imagine. So i think that if Dumbledore could make people think that someone is why couldnt he do it to himself this way if he did it
there is no suspision of snape he can still look for horcruxes and snape is voldemorts top man.
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:01 PM | #
mrguy your theory is the est thing i have ever heard in my life
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:03 PM | #
who thinks hermione could be harry’s older sister???????????????i have quite a few hints and proof.
?????would u like to hear them???
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:06 PM | #
Kansas i want to heard some of these mind blowing speculations
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:13 PM | #
I agree, Snape made some kinda promise to Dumbledore whether it is an Unbreakable Vow or something else he has made some promise to Dumbledore. I thnk this is why Snape was so quick to make the Unbreakable Vow to Narcissa… And if Narcissa told Lord Voldermort he would immeadietly figure out that Snape was with Dumbledore. BUT if Narcissa told Lord Voldermort then she and Malfoy would be in a lot of trouble because she was about to tell Snape the plan which she was forbiddenn to tell anyone. So she wouldn’t yap amd shut up and Snape could keep his cover.We know that Snape was a very good Legilimens from the 5th book. SO I think Snape didn’t know what the plan was but he used Legilimency to tap into Narcissa’s mind and find out what the plan was he alsofound out that Narcissa was going to make an Unbreakable Vow and maybe when Snape walked to the window maybe he could cummunicate telepathically with Dumbledore and asked him what to do and Dumbledore told him to make the Vow, which would let him kinda keep his cover, because Snape either accepts or flat out refuses he doesn’t say I will think about it or anything like that. So if he flat out refused then Narcissa and Ballatrix might suspect something espacially Bellatrix. I also think Dumbledore knew this that is why he told Snape to accept. Do you remember when all of them are in teh hospital wing after the Death Eaters leave and Snape supposedly ‘kills’ Dumbledore? Well then Lupin says “We all knew Snape was a very good Legilimens” Well I think Lupin was just referring to the fact that how well Snape played his part because if it was part of a plan Dumbledore would have told the Order. And if the Order knew that Dumbledore was alive they wouldn’t want the kids toknow because if Voldermort asked Snape who HArry’s friends were Snape would say Ginny, Ron, and Hermionie and Voldermort could just break into their minds and learn a bunch of thing if he thought beaking into Harry’s mind was way too dangerous as Duumledore said.
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:17 PM | #
i just thought of this. voldemort wanted to have 7 horcruxes because 7 was like the most powerful number of whatever the reason was. the prophecy said that the person would be born in july (the seventh month). i don’t think that was a coincidence.
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:19 PM | #
Kansas where is the proof?
I agree with random person there is no way taht is a coincedence
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:23 PM | #
i think that part of voldemort’s path to immortality has to do with killing all of his relatives that still exsist.(to a certain limit in closeness in relation)an dumby knows this
consider this story;
james potter is feeling very worried, as never before in his life…
he has just left school and married lily.adn dumbledore has considered it is time to fill james in on his terrible secret.
so, the dark lord’s true family name is riddle, just as his own mother.(voildemort had an older sister nobody-not even hm-knew about. she married a wizard named potter and they had james, making voldy james’ uncle and harry’s great uncle.)nom, james knows he is the last living relative of voldemort; and he knows he is voldemort’s target for that reason. (that explains why lily needn’t have died).what can he do then?james has great courage, but the future of all mankind is at stake, not only his own life!
if voldemort ever finds him, and kills him, all will be lost:
the dark lord will be immortal, and no one-not even dumbledore-will be able to stop him.the age of darkness will begin and last forever.
unless…
of course, there is only one thing he can do.
the potters understand they must have children, sveral if possible, and a.s.a.p.. furthermore, they should not keep all their children in the same place.
so, i think it is at least a possiblity that hary has a bro or sis, who the potters would have hidden as soon as he/she was born, and who would have lived with adoptive parents ever since.
i know….supposing that hermione is harry’s sister is very star-wars like, but y not?
could hermione be harry’s sister?is it even possible?we know she was born in sep. and harry was born in july. it seems logical to think that hermione is 10 months older that harry, not 2 months younger.(and proof of this opinion is that she was old enough to take her aparation test and harry wasn’t, so she has to be 10 months older.)so that they were both eleven years old on sep. 1, the year they entered hogwarts.in that case, the brother sister thing is highly possible. a 10 month dif.(nearly 10.5 in fact) is a very short time indeed, but remember? suppose lily and james were in a hurry….i’ve all the clues here with me, but do u people think?…………..
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:32 PM | #
who would harrys brother be?
and how could his mom get pregnant like that he she would have to get pregnant with hermione then harry while she is still pregnant
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:36 PM | #
what do you think will happen with harry and ginny
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:44 PM | #
harry and hermione, is there only friendship between them? or something else? anyway, they are very close friends at the very least.
ron and hermione are quite obviously attracted to eachother: theur quarrels might be an indication that they will end up together, or maybe not.
the harry hermione relation is very dif.: they seem somehow “naturally”,close to eachother.quite often, each of them seem to know what the other is has in mind.
i think that should mean something imprtant:
-either it means they will fall in love in the next books. this is a real possibility, the kiss hermione gives harry at the end of book four might be a beginning, but i think a ron-hermione romance is more probable.
- or it means that there is something else between them. of course the brother sister thing would fit perfectly.
so, let’s see, if harry and hermione are siblings, then the grangers are hermione’s adoptive parents. maybe they aren’t really muggles, just pretending.
who knows the truth about hermione?
obviouslky, harry has no clue; i think dumbledore knows the truth, along with a few other teachers(at least lupin and mcgonagall)and probably sirius.the grangers must know. and another little idea is that hermione knows herself. after all we know that hermioni is able to keep a secret(time turner).
all this speculation. so, it is time for some hints to support the harry harmione theory…
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:47 PM | #
Well she could have gotten pregnant. You see Herlionie was born. Then she gets pregnant again and 10 and a half onths later she has Harry. So it is possible and I think might be true
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:47 PM | #
1.-a minor physical resemblance, both are unable to comb their hair.
-at the beginning of book 1, befor harry and hermione are friends, before they really even know eachother, hermione’s behaviour is a bit excessive, she keeps interfearing in harry’s affairs, much more than anybody else’s affairs:
“i can’t believe you’re going to do this, harry”
harry and ron are leaving gryffindor tower together, so y only say this to harry?
…….
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:55 PM | #
hermione being his sister would be a major twist and very start wars like. but it never mentions that she is an adopted child. just muggle born. if it is true though than ron would be hon solo, and he is no hon solo. hes more like the gold robot ( i think its c3po).
also one thing ive been waiting to comeback is the fact that harry could do magic with out a wand. in one of the earlier books he blew a locked door in the dursleys open while his wand was in the trunk that was behind the door. does anyone remember this
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:03 PM | #
BIG HINT-in book two, just after hern=mione and penelope are petrified, professor macgonagall goes straight to harry:
“potter, i think you’d better come with me.”
wy?
i don’t think it’s jsut beacause hermion is his friend; she would ahve asked ron as well. but no, she doesn’t care about ron. only anfter her and harry are returning to the castle does ron come running up, and she agrees.
“yes, perhaps you’d better come too, weasley.”
quite streange isn’t , but if she knows they are siblings, her behaviour is totally normal……
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:04 PM | #
-in book three, in lupin’s class when they are battling the boggart, he doesn’t let harry battle the boggart beacause he is afraid it will take the form of lord voldemort, but y doesn’t he let hermione fight it. i think he is afraid it will reveal something about her past and harry and her. even if this isn’t the reason i think this is very interesting, because i once read a rumor that hermione is a werewolf, because it answers her call in book three, and werewolves only respond to it’s own kind’s call. anyways, in book five hermione fights another boggart for exams, but she was alone so nobody knows the truth. also i heard that her story was a bit ridikilus, but when i tried to find what she said to ron and harry about her boggart i couldn’t find it. could somebody help?? ……………
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:12 PM | #
the bogart was proffesor mgonagol and she asys she failed all of her exams
in the third book
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:14 PM | #
in a second i will find the page and tell it to you
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:16 PM | #
in book four in the three broomsticks pub, when harry is being interviewd by rita skeeter rita asks harry…
“would u ever call hagrid a father substitute?”
hermione’s reaction to this is very violent.
she stands up”…very abruptly, her butterbeer clutched in her hand as if it were a grenade.”
why?after all, these words were nothing worse than what rita was saying bfore.
obviously, it was the words “father substitute.” that caused hermione’s reaction. i think it was because she was raised by adoptive parents and knows it…..anybody find her boggart story in book five. i have a book with me right here but can’t find it. …………..
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:19 PM | #
o it’s in book threeeeeeeeeee
doesn’t it sound a bit weird
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:21 PM | #
in the third book on page 319 it shows hermiones boggarts form and in book 5 mrs weasly was the one who faught the boggart but she couldnt do it so lupin took care of it
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:21 PM | #
her boggarts form it sounds like it has been tampered with why would that be her scariest thought or thing
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:22 PM | #
i know she all about grades, but why would she freak out that much over something like that
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:23 PM | #
thats another thing they have in common if they are both from the same parents niether of them aer afraid of voldemort (their parents killer) the most they both fear something else more
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:23 PM | #
it says hermion came screaming out of the trunk
i bet that she saw harry dieing or somthing and she made up the other boggart
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:29 PM | #
also in book one-
when harry and hermione introduce themselves for the first time she says something i find to be a bit peculiar…
“..i’d have found out everything if it was me.”
i don’t hink anybody else ever sais something like that to harry.
“if it was me”“if i was the one who defeated the dark lord.”
does she mean it could have been her?
i think she is just encouraging harry into finding out so that he discovers they are sibling without her telling him. woe, i just thought of this. what if the secret keeper charm was performed before she came to hogwarts and she can’t tell harry, only the certain secret keeper, which is probably dumbldore, but if harry finds out himself that won’t harm anything. he can’t keep a secret from himself. ……….
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:30 PM | #
but hermione is afraid she still wont say voldermorts name
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:32 PM | #
one more thing
i think hermione released trevor on purpose so that she could go and meet harry(who she heard was on the train)for what shouldn’t have been the first time
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:33 PM | #
she was the only one who started saying his name after the d.a. meeting and ever since has said it
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:35 PM | #
also i know this even more far fetched that hermione and harry being siblings, but what if ginny is harry’s baby sister. she has the same color hair as lily and the same coloe eyes as james(haizel) this would explain hagrids 24 hour absence after voldemort’s attack.
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:40 PM | #
there is another clue in the fourth book on page 290 its harry and hermione talking
in books 1 and 3 hermione and harry get left near the end together cause ron gets hurt
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:42 PM | #
thats interesting but kinda gross cause they have been snogging
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:43 PM | #
i guess this is somewhat on topic, has anyone realized how little time Hermione actually spends with the Grangers?(her parents) IT is almost like they are a Dursley-like family that are only supposed to watch Hermione. She is always at Ron’s house or Grimmauld Place before Harry is.
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:45 PM | #
you have to refresh the page every time to see new comments
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:46 PM | #
snogging???? what r u talking about zelph, when does somebody say something about snogging??
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:46 PM | #
in the 5th book at the bottom of pg 533 harry and Ginny kiss
well you could only guess this goes further…
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:48 PM | #
what’s this i hear about it being possible that dumbledore is ron weasley form the future
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:48 PM | #
i read that it makes sense but it’s very difficult
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:50 PM | #
hey guys i’m gettin kinda sick of talkin to meself
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:51 PM | #
i agree with ADAM and i think thatall of Kansas’ ideas are very intriging. The thing abouth ginny being harry’s younger sis might explain why harry felt so angry or upset when he spotted Ginny and Dean kissing
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:51 PM | #
hello, hey can one of u say an idea i’m sick of thinking of them and typing them all out
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:52 PM | #
hey kansas calm down i just barely commented
if you have msn messenger you can talk faster
do you?
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:54 PM | #
o screw it i’ll say another idea. what if the sorting hat ia a horcrux anf it belonged to gryffindor, but then dumbledore would have detected it, but knowing jk’s style she could easily find a way around this.
maybe it has to do with pulling more items out of the sorting hat like the sword in cos, that thing wasn’t sent by anybody it just appeared there. maybe anything can appear there if u desterately need it, like a cross between the mirror of erised and the room of requirement
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:58 PM | #
Adam that is so true the only time i remember her with her family is the first two books book three she was at the leaky cauldron with harry four she was at the weaslys 5 she was at grimmauld place six she was also at the weaslys doesnt this strike you as kind of weird?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:00 PM | #
kansas that sounds very likely it is very possible i bet if they wanted some horcruxes they could get them and whose idea was ron weasly being dumbledore?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:02 PM | #
i don’t remember who said the ron/dumby thing i read it somewhere, but the person that said it said that it makes alot of sense once it’s figured out and explained.
?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:05 PM | #
i said it is very likely i mean they probably could
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:06 PM | #
i dont think ron is dumbledore
i heard that dumbledore was harry in the future and he came back to help fix some mistakes
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:08 PM | #
last night i was talking on this post with this lady her name was “you (don’t) know who”, i explained all of my ideas about harry and hermione being bro and sis, but she seemed to find a way to reject all of the clues and explain why they could be wrong. then she said “we could be reading all of these clues wrong, jk made mistakes in writing the books that would explain how these clues are misread and taken the wrong way. THIS IS ALL GUESS WORK RIGHT???????”
that’s what she said the i said”yes, this is all guess work, but isn’t everything on these posts guesswork??? the only way it couldn’t be guesswork is if you or i were jkr ourselves.”
then she said”i’m not jk.”
then she disappeared and i never heard from after that. it was pretty freaky.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:12 PM | #
what were some of the excuses you (don’t) know who had?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:14 PM | #
Dumbledore can not possibly be Harry unless Harry died his hair Auburn or it changed to Auburn within a few years.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:14 PM | #
anyways, i think that either the room of requirement, the sorting hat , and the mirror of erised will all have an either big or small role in book seven
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:15 PM | #
why in the world would some one think that Ron weasley is Dumbledore’s Past??? that idea sounds like some idiot deceded to be retarded and make up a rumor. i mean if you look at ron in the books, he isn’t that smart. but dumbledore is the greatest wizard in the world. it doesen’t make the slightest bit of sense
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:25 PM | #
i’ll just give u the site. but the stupid guy that ran the sight closed it because he thought we were getting too “chatty”.
and get this. i just realized that before she said she wasn’t jk she found a way to reject a couple more of my theories, o crap, that stupid guy that ran the post cut off like half of the posts there were around two hundred. it’s confusing. he cut off the part where she says she’s not jk and disapears. he mus’tve cut it off by one commet because she said it and dissapeared right after that.look….http://www.binarymoon.co.uk/2005/08/harry-potter-conspiracy-theory-1-rab/….also, i started posting around 117 to let ya know so u can read it.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:26 PM | #
also what do u think of this, the grey lady of ravenclaw is rowena ravenclaw herself and will know revealing secrets about salazar slytherin. also that one of luna’s items that gets lost in book six is one of rowena ravenclaw’s things. that was a pretty large section of the end of the book to talk about something getting lost. i think somebody sho is a pet of one of the students(trevor the toad being regulous’ animangi form) takes advantage of the end of the year feast to go searching through luna’s things for the item maybe finding it, maybr losing it in their haste to search. i think trevor the toad could be somebody’s animangi form. he always seems to get away from neville. maybe searching the castle for something.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:43 PM | #
where does it talk about luna losing things of rowena ravenclaws? what page?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:46 PM | #
do u live in the uk zelph? i’ve talked to people in the uk without even knowing it before
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:47 PM | #
harry and voldermort seem to another thing in common. they both do magic unknowingly when they are younger. i dont think any other wizard could do magic without a wand.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:47 PM | #
not rowena’s. but it says she loses things or get’s them stolen. book six is the only one i don’t have with me at the time. it’s before the funeral or the feast or something idk id remember
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:49 PM | #
i don’t live in the uk. why? does it only talk about luna losing ravenclaw’s things in the uk version?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:49 PM | #
remember zelph she’s posting those flyers for her lost items
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:50 PM | #
i dont remember her posting anything about any lost items either
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:51 PM | #
no n/v/m about the uk… sorry i g2g eat i’ll be back in a half hour or so…jay, when does harry do magic without a wand on purpose?? all young witch/wizards do unexpected things without wands when they’re young
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:53 PM | #
in one of the books the dursleys lock his trunk with the wand in it in a closet and he was so angry he made the door blow open so he could get his trunk and leave. i think it was the third book but im not sure
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:55 PM | #
i think your talking about in book 5 not six i think it’s on like page 862
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:55 PM | #
he dtd that out of pure rage in book one he did the same thing with the snake in book one when the glass vansihed
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:56 PM | #
kansas, at the end of “aunt marges big mistake” chapter it says “the cupboard door burst magically open as he reached it”
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:58 PM | #
it still shows he could do magic without a wand on purpose. he just doesnt know how to harness it yet
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:59 PM | #
do you guys know where dumbledores brother is and who he is and where he is found in the fourth book
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:13 PM | #
yeah me too but i am trying to find where he is in the fourth book and what do you think about dumbledor and fawkes?
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:17 PM | #
i heard things that he might be an animagus as fawkes but i dont think so. though harry thinks he sees a pheonix rise from the grave while the white smoke is up
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:20 PM | #
what do u think about the whole talking through a painting afterr you die. first of all why didnt anyone bother to ask dumbledore through the painting what happened. second of all why harry’s parents didnt get a painting after they died so they could speak to harry
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:26 PM | #
you probably have to paint the person while they are alive so they can get the features right naturally since dumbledore was the headmaster he would be get a painting to go in the office
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:30 PM | #
in the fifth book it tells you where the locket horcrux is
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:31 PM | #
where is the pheonix rising from the grave part
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:33 PM | #
no his painting appeared only after his supposed death. like it was ab automatic thing. even so your saying that only if u go out of ur way to get ur self a painting could u talk to ppl from ur grave. why wouldnt everyone do it. especially the potters who knew that voldermort was coming after them. it just doesnt make sense.
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:33 PM | #
in the fifth book on page 116 and i quote “also a locket than none of them can open”
isnt the pheonix rising from dumbledor
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:34 PM | #
There are a lot of really good theories here and here is what I think.
The guy who said Dumbledore is Harry’s or Ron’s future needs major brain surgery. Because if you remember from the third book when Hermionie is talking about the time turner she says what if you saw yourself? Well Harry or Ron would know if it was either of them. I agree to the theory that Hermionie is Harry’s sister…Because she is always really bossy to Harry like an older sister/brother but she is only does the same to Ron so it will not look weird.And also in the second book when Hermionie and Penelope Clearwater are petrified Professor McGonnagal comes to Harry and says”you had better some with me Potter’ because Harry is Hermionie’s brother but then when she sees Ron she says “You’d better come to Weasly” And also in the third book when they are fighting the boggart for the first time Lupin doesn’t let Harry fight the boggart because he is afraid that it will take the shape of Lord Voldermort but he also doesn’t let Hermionie fight the boggart. Why? Mybe she told him that her worst fear was something to do with her real parent, the Potters, and if Harry saw that maybe he would figure out that she was his sister… Here are my theories,
Trevor is really Regelus. He is still a Death Eater and Voldermort just helped him become an Animagi and then sent him into hiding at Neville’s house because he knew that Neville was going to Hogwarts. So when ever Neville loses Trevor I think Regelus is going around Hogwarts searching for a relic of Ravenclaw’s for Voldermort to make a Horcrux…
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:35 PM | #
who was the one who asked me about the “mind blowing speculations” earlie i can’t find it but i saw it
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:36 PM | #
page 645 (like 8 pages from the end the paragraph starts with then several ppl screamed
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:38 PM | #
I found the book really interesting. I still think that the scene where Dumbledore begs Snape for help was prepared by them (maybe i´m still in denyal). I also think that maybe Dumbledore is in fact dead (although that phoenix thing that happened in his funeral has something behind it), but Snape´s still on the good side (J.K Rowling hasn´t still explained very well why Dumbledore did trust Snape).
Harry´s last conversation with Ginny was too Hollywood for me…. i mean…. why does every hero has to separate from those ones he loves….. a little Spiderman for my taste.
About Regulus? i think it clicks, but is also a little obvious….. Mrs Rowling has always found the way to shock us out of our minds with te “obvious” information.
It´s a really good book, to end this rumble of random words, that is a really good way to wait for the next one.
Congratulations Mrs Rowling (by the way, it´s impossible to do the expert minesweeper in that time).
p.s: please forgive my english. It´s not my first language.
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:38 PM | #
hey dumbledore’s man. did u get the idea about trevor from me? or that u believe that is true what i said
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:41 PM | #
I dont think regulus is a eater anymore cause it says he became a eater and realized he didnt want to be one anymore so he want after horcruxes which explaisn RAB
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:42 PM | #
zelph, did u read the binary moon thing or anyone else
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:46 PM | #
o ya and everybody, i don’t live in kansas and i’m not from kansas
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:49 PM | #
who thinks they can guess where james and lily worked
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:51 PM | #
i think that lily and jemes worked at the ministry, but not as aurors. i think they worked to try to find a way to block the killing curse avada kedavra
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:53 PM | #
i also believe that avada kedavra was one of the first spells jkr invented because it sounds alot like the old abra kabara
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:55 PM | #
it would be really cool if they quick stop managers
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:57 PM | #
anybody????o ya and look at post #53 i thonk it is. whoever sir lord aaron is he’s a butthole…………and the weird thing is my name is aaron
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:57 PM | #
hey is anybody here other than jay, at least jay is talking
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:00 PM | #
well what jobs did the potters have. im guessing they were the last of the pizza delivery men because noone has pizza anymore
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:01 PM | #
well ive been guessing. so what did the potters do for a job. im gonna say for sre not a magician or a vantriliquist
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:13 PM | #
umm maybe the potters were unspeakables. and they heard about the prophecy so they had as many kids as they could. like how kansas said. idk
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:52 PM | #
CyberJohn is here! i was on Zelph’s a while ago
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:55 PM | #
i also think that peter pettigrew’s silver hand will play a role in the death of remus lupin
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:56 PM | #
i was commenting on my friends name a while ago. his name was zelph
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:59 PM | #
so kansas, where did you find out that wormtails hand will help kill LUpin??
dead
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:03 PM | #
unspeakables are the people in the ministry of magic that work in the department of mysteries.
where the crap is kansas?
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:09 PM | #
-isn’t it like, the only way to kill a werewolf has to do with silver i don’t know it exactly
-i also think that hagrid will die in book seven(at the beginning)because when somebody asked robby coltrane(hagrid’s actor)if he signed for all seven movies he gave a ‘sort of’ answer
-petunia will stard exhibiting magical tendancies.she may be a squib.her parents may have been wizards but hid their abilities to protect their family from voldemort
-why has snape singled out harry and neville for verbal abuse
-something huge will be revealed about lily potter in book seven
-on The Connection a kid asked jkr if snape would fall in love in book seven. jk appeared to have started to say yes, but then stopped. she said she was extremely stunned by the question and we would find y in book seven
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:10 PM | #
no jay unspeakables are not the people who give you your food in your car while wearing rollerblades at an old fationed diner.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:12 PM | #
some people are saying that piers polkiss can speak parstletongue beacause he could “understand” harry talking to the snake at the zoo in book one
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:15 PM | #
Confirmed information by JK Rowling:
* Rowling has revealed that she has already written the last chapter of this book, although she admitted she would probably have to change some of it. It will reveal what happens to the surviving characters after they leave Hogwarts.
* The last word in the series is currently ‘scar’, though Rowling has admitted that it might change as she finishes the novel.
* Book 7 is almost like part two of the sixth book, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and may thus provide a direct continuation of the plot of that book.
* The Potters’ profession is important to the plot, and there will be a huge revelation about Lily Potter.
* Harry has his mother’s eyes is important to the plot.
* There will be no scene in which Harry or anyone else is playing Quidditch.
* Rita Skeeter will appear again, as will Dolores Umbridge.
* Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth will probably appear (Rowling has confirmed that he’s the barman of Hog’s Head) and more about Dumbledore’s background will be revealed.
* We will find out exactly why Rowling had Sirius killed. The magical mirrors that Sirius gave Harry will appear again.
* We will find out what exactly Dudley saw when he encountered the dementors.
* We will learn about the correspondence between Professor Dumbledore and Petunia Dursley before the death of Harry’s parents.
* More about Harry’s scar will be revealed.
* The fact that Voldemort now has Harry’s blood in him will be significant.
* The choice between what’s right and what’s easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry’s last 2 years at Hogwarts.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:18 PM | #
also, peter pettigrew i am most certain owes harry his life because harry saved him in book three
-snape may owe harry his life as well because james saved him but snape never saved james in return
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Posted on August 16, 2005 06:18 PM | #
i just thought of something, didn’t dumbledore save the whole malfoy family especially draco?
this could be a big twist in book seven…
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:23 PM | #
hey easter. i need somebody to discoss my theory. it starts at like 163…you don’t have to read it. just a thought. something to do while you’re here. not many people are on right now
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:28 PM | #
ohhh of course i remember thinking that wormtail would have to help harry because harry saved his life! i totally forgot. it’s kind of like a jar-jar binks. (that fag frog guy in star wars) and qui-gon-jinn.
but staying on the star wars subject maybe harry will go to the dark side like anakin. i mean harry and anakin are both whiners and they are full of themselves.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:28 PM | #
Yeah kansas i read that while on as zelph and that is what i think might happen. how did you get to that conclusion? i would never have thought of that.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:31 PM | #
i don’t think jk wants anything to do with star-wars. idk y but it doesn’t seem like her
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:32 PM | #
i’ve read all the books like seven times at least except #six, i only read that twice. my books are all marked up with notes and underlines. idk. i’ve always like the hardy boys. maybe it rubbed off on me.
-have u ever thought of this.what if jk is amking like a code out of the chapter title or book titles. it’s really unlikely. but that would be cool, woudn’t it?
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:37 PM | #
u know that stupid rumor about how ron could be dumbledore from the future??
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:39 PM | #
what about that stupid rumor?
i think it’s the gayest thing i’ve ever heard of
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:42 PM | #
ok i’ll get to that rumor, but right after i typed that i thought of something fricken huge, but i’m taking it very calmly, so i don’t have a heart attack or something…. would u like to hear that instead…actually i don’t know if it’s that huge but it may be to some people
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:51 PM | #
WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE IS THIS BIG OR NOT, IDK-• We learn about them in book 5 (thanks to Hagrid) and how that you can only see them if you have seen death. The first time Harry sees them is in book 5 but didn’t he see death at the age of one when his parents died. if so, why can’t he see them in his first year? and then he sees Quirrel die at the end of book 1. does he see them in books 2, 3 or 4? No. unless harry blinked and missed them snuff it (which is very unlikely) that
meansTHESE PEOPLE AREN’T DEAD!!!!!!!!!! The death harry saw to enable him to see thestrals is that of Cedrics.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:54 PM | #
i think that ron weasley is dumby theory is totally true
Posted on August 16, 2005 07:05 PM | #
kansas are you still there?
i thought of that too about why didn’t he see the thestrals in his first year if he had seen his parents die before? but i didin’t think too much about it
Posted on August 16, 2005 07:50 PM | #
I read Something very interesting in book six o n page 598 after dumbledore died i read He (harry) had to get to Dumbleore and had to catch snape….somehow the two things were linked….He could reverse what happened if he had them both together.
so i was think if harry didnt think that out of desperation why couldnt snape do the same thing in secret?
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:10 PM | #
Yeah Yeah that is totally true. it is a very good speculation
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:23 PM | #
u idiot, isn’t cyberjohn and zelph the same person
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:38 PM | #
no zelph is my pal i was just at his house earlier today
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:42 PM | #
woe wait a min this site must be somewhere in um……what’s after muountain time zone, pacific timezone? when i asked if it was 10:10 where u live(it was really 10:07)it said it was posted at 7:07. it’s 11:45 here, it must be 8:45 there.
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:43 PM | #
o i thought u said u were the same person. where do u live? cuz we must be in different time zones
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:44 PM | #
Utah
So what going on with dumbledore and ron
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:48 PM | #
UTAH im surprised this site doesen’t have like a million more comments
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:48 PM | #
I think the thing about ron being dumbledore was the idea of some loser-butt-sweat-baker that thinks he’s cool
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:51 PM | #
anyway. wanna hear about what i think is just as stupid as the ron/dumby theory, but could make sense. i would need your opinion on it. u there
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:51 PM | #
o so it must be like almost 10:00 p.m. there?
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:53 PM | #
Let’s hear your theory. if it WAS true i would think like Ron saw into the future in divination and saw that harry really was going to die so he decided to go into the future and try to fix it.
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:53 PM | #
it is like 10 here is it like 1 inthe moring there? but anyway who cares i want to hear this thing
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:55 PM | #
1 min look what i just found i don’t know if it’s important…
• What if Hermione really is Harry’s sister? One thing I have wondered about is why Hermione got picked for Gryffindor in the first place. It seems to me that before she met Harry and Ron, she was very cautious. She was reluctant to break any rules for fear that she would lose points for her house.
Gryffindors are supposed to be daring and brave. Why was she pickedfor Gryffindor instead of Ravenclaw, where “those of wit and learning will always find their kind?” Perhaps Hermione has something about her past that she hides also…maybe she is Harry’s sister, and she once met Voldemort?
One thing I noticed though…aren’t you supposed to be 11 years old when you enter Hogwarts? If Hermione was really 10.5 months older than harry, why didn’t she enter Hogwarts the year before Harry? I always thought that Hermione was younger than Harry, considering her birthday is on September first, and that her birthday was on the first of the term. That would make being brother and sister impossible, though, which makes me return to my first point…Why was Hermione chosen for Gryffindor, then?
• Draco Malfoy is OBSESSED with calling Hermione a mudblood every time she blinks. If Harry was one as well, wouldn’t Malfoy be more than happy to extend the well wishings Harry’s way as well? But he doesn’t… Ron is always poor, Hermione the Mudblood, and Harry… just the bane of Malfoy’s existance, apparently. But he never makes a dig on Harry’s bloodline (which is obviously not beneath him to do so.)
Voldemort didn’t want to kill Lily. When he walked in the room, he wanted to kill Harry first. Whatever his reasoning is, instead of just killing Lily upon entering the room, he wasted him time telling her to get away from Harry and letting her get into the position of sacrificing herself for her son. Had she been just a regular old mudblood, would he not have just killed her asap? Ron’s father even said killing Muggles was something of a sport for them… why would he waste his time even paying her any mind?
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:57 PM | #
these aren’t my theory about ron/dumby things. i’ll get to that
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:59 PM | #
these aren’t my theory about ron/dumby things. i’ll get to that…
Are Harry and Voldemort related ?
>Here is my guess : Voldemort has no brother (so Dobby’s answer is true,
>strictly speaking)… but he had a sister. Voldemort’s sister married a
>wizard named Potter. She became the mother of James Potter ! So, if I am
>correct, Voldemort is James’ uncle, and Harry’s great-uncle.
Lord Voldemort a.k.a. Tom Marvolo Riddle is the last descentdant of Salazar
Slytherin through his mother. That means that no other descendants of
Voldemort’s mother exists!There is of course the possibility of a
half-sister with the same father …
>Another hint : when Harry first reads the name “Riddle” in the diary, he
>thinks he has never heard it before… and yet there is something familiar
>about that name : “as though Riddle was a friend he’d had when he was very
>small”. Why ? The expression ” when he was very small ” must refer to the
>period when he was with his parents. Maybe he has heard about “grandmother
>Riddle” during the first year of his life !
Again - the Riddle name comes from Voldemort’s father - any other siblings
born by his mother wouldn’t have that name. Possibly his father had other
children born out of marriage, but giving them the Riddle name would only
be possible, I think, if Tom (Voldemort’s father) acknowledged being the
father of the child.
>Another hint to support this : Mrs Riddle (Voldemort’s mother) hadn’t told
>her husband she was a witch when they got married ; then, WHY did she have
>to tell him later, when she was pregnant?
They were not married. Voldemort’s mother didn’t have the Riddle name. This
is utter nonsense!
>Part 2 : Why did Voldemort want to kill Harry ?
>Let us see. we know Voldemort has killed :
> - his own family (the Riddles),
> - the Potter family (except Harry who survived).
- countless others; especially Muggle, Muggle-born wizards and wizards that
opposed him.
>If Voldemort and James Potter are related (see Part 1 above), all this may
>be the continuation of the same massacre!
Voldemort is the ‘Dark Lord’ - he is presented as the epitome of evil in
the Harry Potter books, and evil is as evil does, and what evil does is
killing. It is a well-established literary tradition that the evil side
engage in mass-murder. Voldemort kills Muggles and Muggle-born wizards for
pleasure (this is parallel to Hitler’s denunciation of everyone who was
short and black-haired … And Rowling is known to have compared Voldemort
to Hitler on numerous occasions) and he kills his opponents because they
dare oppose him. No other explanations are needed (this does not mean that
other explanations aren’t possible).
>My theory is that he has found (or has been taught) a path to immortality,
>something very, very dark indeed, the darkest of the Dark Arts, that
>involves taking the lives of his relatives (including Harry) !
As Harry is a full-blood wizard, Voldemort would at least need some kind of
reason for killing him - especially as we are told that he went
specifically after Harry’s family with the intention of killing Harry and
his father. To tie this up with Voldemort’s quest for immortality is a nice
idea - it doesn’t need the ‘Harry being related to Voldemort’ complication.
>If you are still unconvinced, consider this sentence carefully :
>”Now give me the Stone, unless you want her (Lily) to have died in vain.”
[…]
>So Voldemort’s sentence means :
>” Give me this stone-of-immortality, and I will not kill you “.
No. What it really means is “give me what I want or I’ll kill you” - and
_that_ is Voldemort’s philosophy in a nut shell.
>Part 3 : What exactly is Voldemort’s ” path to immortality ” ?
Ooops - there’s nothing left!
Speculations are fun - but I, for one, prefer them to have at least some
connection to canon.
>Part 4 : What about the Death-Eaters ?
>Why did Voldemort’s followers choose that name “Death-Eaters”?
>What on Earth does it mean?
>Well… the meaning of “Death-Eater” is very close to “Death-Stealer”…
>so I suppose they use that name because they too are intending to become
>immortal, using the same dark magic as their master : Voldemort will be
>the first one, but if he succeeds, his followers will try to follow the
>same path to immortality !
That the Death-Eaters should also pursue immortality - individually or as a
group - is not surprising, and I find it little likely that this should be
the significance of the name (I would honestly find it anti-climactic).
>Part 5 : Are there other descendants of Voldemort’s father ?
>
>This last part is probably the most speculative and uncertain of all !
That says a lot ;)
>So, I think it is at least a possibility that Harry might have a brother
>or sister, who the Potters would have hiden as soon as he or she was born,
>and who would have lived with adoptive parents ever since.
That would not be in line with the character of Harry’s parents as it has
been described.
>I know… supposing that Hermione is Harry’s sister would be very
>Star-Wars-like. and yet, why not ?
Honestly? Because I would find it revolting!
>Could Hermione be Harry’s sister ? Is it even possible ? We know she was
>born in September, and Harry was born in July. It seems logical to suppose
>that Hermione is 10 months older than Harry rather than 2 months younger
Not when they are known (PoA) to have been the same age in June!
So - it is impossible for Harry and Hermione to have the same mother, but
hey! That shouldn’t necessarily stop you, should it? James was a nice guy -
maybe he found someone else, who would have his other child (a bit before
he knew that Voldemort was after him, but who cares?) Why not a dozen
siblings to Harry - all to different mothers?
>The Harry-Hermione relation is very different : they seem somehow
>”naturally”, almost instinctively close to each other. Quite often, each
>of them seems to be knowing what the other has in mind.
When I read stuff like this, I can’t help wondering if the author of it
hasn’t had such a friendship as a child. I assure you that this is
perfectly normal for good friends, and that it even exists in boy-girl
friendships with no other implications. This doesn’t need any further
explanation. In the event that two siblings meet without knowing that they
are related, their reactions towards each other are different from siblings
who have lived together; such two siblings might quickly develop a deep
friendship, but it is still just a friendship! And remember that Harry
initially found Hermione just as insufferable as everyone else.
>- A minor physical resemblance : they are both unable to comb their hair.
Didn’t you read chapter 23 ‘The Yule Ball’ in Goblet of Fire?
Hermione is perfectly able to comb her hair - she just doesn’t bother normally.
>- At the beginning of book 1, before Harry and Hermione become friends,
>before they even really know each other, Hermione’s behaviour is a bit
>excessive : she keeps interfering in Harry’s affairs, much more than in
>anyone else’s affairs (even Ron’s):
Harry is celebrity. Already in the train in PS she says “I know all about
you, of course …” - How do you think Daniel Radcliffe is being treated by
the class busybody when he gets back to school? Try to learn a bit about
your subject before making assumptions!
The rest of this is - as the author admits - more than highly speculative.
I am sorry, but I don’t have much patience with people who try to make
their facts fit their fancies! I had better stop now, before I get unpleasant.
Let’s see …
Voldemort’s desire to kill Harry linked to his pursuit of immortality.
Made me think of the possibility of any live descendants of Voldemort’s
father (though I can’t see what good this’d do, nor do I see why they
didn’t stop forth as heirs when the Riddle family was killed).
–
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:00 PM | #
About Hermione’s house i think she probably asked to be put in Gryffindor just like harry did because she might have known that they were related and she might have assumed harry to be in gryfindor because his (or Their) parents were there too.
I think the Malfoy thing is irrevilant because he doesen’t know they are related. but overall pretty good theory
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:02 PM | #
OK TELL ME. what if dumbledore is harry himself from the future. what do u think. i have hints to back it up but it’s probably not true…
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:02 PM | #
and she might not be like that cause dumbledore in book five told petunia remembor you last
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:03 PM | #
in the fourth book hermione used magic to control her hair so harry probabl y could too
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:14 PM | #
i doubt that dumbledore is somone in the future. but if Voldemort and hermione were related to harry wouldn’t harry have seen them in the mirror of erised? i also doubt that james potter was a polygamist. trust me i live in Utah, the very, very, very, very, very, EMPHASIS on very few polygamists there are around here are weirdos (true aunt ptunia called harry’s parents weird but nothing are as weird and stupid as polygamists)
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:15 PM | #
hermione used like a few bottles of hair potion and she said it wasn’t worth it to do it every day to straiten her hair every day
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:20 PM | #
ok
-when dumbledore is mentioned at any time in any of the books, the observation is always made about his crooked nose, as if it had been broken several times. in book six alone harry has his nose broken twice. granted the first was repaired by madam pomfrey, but the second time when he is flattened by the death eaters while in pursuit of snape no mention is made about it being repaired beyond recodnition.
-voldemort always fears dumbledore above all others, but harry was the one who destroyed him as a child. dumbledore has allowed alot to happen badly to harry,but he couldn’t have interfeared because the bad things were necessary for the bad things to unfold. he could not interfere with history, but he could play the role that dumbledore is intended to play.
-dumbledore immobilized harry at the end of book six. why did he prevent harry from protecting him?perhaps dumbledore’s death, while tragic, was intended to happen to strengthen harry, but also give him insight on how he was going to die. book seven is supposed to complete the saga withough any need of prequel or sequel. does that meen harry will die, or does it mean that harry is dumbledore and the rest of his life will be chronicled in books 1-6. most of dumbledore’s life is laid out in book 2 and in book six through the pensieve…
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:27 PM | #
What do you guys think will happen to viktor Crum?
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:27 PM | #
i still dont think harry and dumbledore are the same person because it is first of all against wizarding law to tamper with time and second of all you are not allowed to see yourself so it could put harry into shock
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:30 PM | #
the really long one above wasn’t my theory someone gave that to me so i sent it on
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:31 PM | #
like on back to the future when jennifer saw her self when she was older and passed out
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:31 PM | #
the really long one above wasn’t my theory someone gave that to me so i sent it on(the one about which house hermione should be in and stuff)
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:32 PM | #
the harry dumbledore thing was just another theory, nothing big
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:34 PM | #
viktor……im not sure. he may join the order. but i just can’t seem to see viktor doing anything important. Dumbledore if anyones future could be Neville i seem to remember Neville breaking his nose. but what about that scar dd claims to have above his knee that is a perfect map of the london underground. or maybe dd is zacharias smith who has a lopsided nose. but i still dont think dd is anybody but himself
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:34 PM | #
ya, but i seriously think that trvor the toad is somebody, regulous, i’m almost sure
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:36 PM | #
and harry being dumbledore doesnt xplain the scar and then if dumbledore/harry lives that long it seems that voldemort was destroyed then why would dumbledore have to come back i just dont think it is likeley
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:37 PM | #
well i’ll talk to u guy tomorrow then? it’s like 1:00 A.M. here……….cya bye
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:38 PM | #
i dont think it is a eater maybe an auror to protect harry or neville? but is trevor ever found by harry in any of the books
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:38 PM | #
i think that trevor really is some animagus and it is really possible to be regelus because he probably saw sirius transform and probably figured out how to transform.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:38 PM | #
well i’ll talk to u guy tomorrow then? it’s like 1:00 A.M. here……….cya bye…i’ll try to find more clues and crap
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:39 PM | #
trevor the toad is probably regulous in my opinion, regulous was on a mission to find and destroy all of the horcruxes. trevor always seems to get away from neville and that toad must be getting pretty old for a toad, he’s searching for something in the catle
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:43 PM | #
trevor the toad is probably regulous in my opinion, regulous was on a mission to find and destroy all of the horcruxes. trevor always seems to get away from neville and that toad must be getting pretty old for a toad, he’s searching for something in the catle…..cya tomorrow
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:43 PM | #
Isnt it interesting how the locket horcrux is mentioned in the fith book
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:44 PM | #
the only reason i think trevor could be an animagus is because he is always getting away from neville and neville cant keep track of him
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:49 PM | #
Yeah that’s right but again Neville is pretty retarded but………………he is flippin cool.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:50 PM | #
I think that later in life after James and Lily got out of Hogwarts, Jamesand Snape became friends. And it never says what Snape did before he became a Death Eater. Maybe he workedwith Lily and James to find a defense to Avada Kedavra. So maybe before James and Lily died they found a cure but didn’t find out how to mak duplicates of it.So they died. But later on Snape found out how to duplicate it. So that was the potion in the basin in the cave! So maybe it sends the drinker(afer Avada Kedavra is used on them) into a type of sleep that can only be reversed by the Draught of Living Death or some potion mentioned in the sixth book. What about that theory?
I think that Hermionie is Harry’s siter. She always seems very caring for Harry, and Ron too to some extent but more towards Harry. Until reading all this always thought it was just because she was a good person or something like that. I think JK might make it Star Wars like. About the house Gryffindor thing I think that Hermionie is really Harry’s sister BUT when James and Lily had HErmionie they gave her away to James’s cousin or something who are wizards but hide their powers for some reason. These people are the Grangers. And when the Grangers were at school they were in Ravenclaw. So that explains why Hermionie is so smart but the blood in her is still Gryffindor so that is why she is still in Gryffindor.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:52 PM | #
Hey guys who was pretending to be me and saying that mrs figg will send an army of cats on death eaters?
maybe it was me and im goin crazy.
i suck
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:53 PM | #
what do you guys think the connection is with petunia and dumbledore do you think it possible that harry is pure really and petunia is a squib in hiding?
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:54 PM | #
it was a good thought mr guy but i dont think that is mrs figg is dumbledore or the cat thing
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:56 PM | #
hahahahahahaha that mrguy! anyway dumbledores man has a pretty good theory it builds on my theory that dudmbledore had already been to the cave. im such a nerd
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:56 PM | #
I don’t think there is any ‘connection’ between Petunia and Dumbledore but I think they have been in cntact since James and Lily died. I think that Petunia is a witch in hiding. The reason she acts like she despises them is so she can act more Muggle like.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:58 PM | #
i dont think that the grangers are related to the potters because i think they are muggles i think that she was adopted by muggles and dumbledore told her when she got to school
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:58 PM | #
Zelph, that is an idea too. Maybe the Potters pulled a Dumbledore on the Grangers and left Hermionie on their door ste. But without the letter.
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:00 PM | #
I think the connection is something like voldemort or someone was trying to kill petunia and dumbledore made it look like she is like he offered to draco because after all why would she care if people knew she was a squib and what not i think she just didnt want to dieso they made a deal dumbledore would protect her and she keeps harry
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:01 PM | #
ptenia being a witch makes sense bacause she knew what dementors were (book5) and i don’t think she really heard them from James
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:01 PM | #
that could happen but dont you think the grangers would be like what is going on or wonder why she was there if they did i am sure that the grangers knwe something
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:02 PM | #
i agree with cyber john she is a witch or a squib
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:04 PM | #
Yes I agree, I dont even think that Petunia even ever saw James, forget about hearing him talk. But I do not think Petunia would even be wanted to be known as a Squib. And I also think Dumbledore would place what might be the future of the wizarding world(Harry) on a deal> I think tha he made Petunia make an Unbreakable Vow
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:04 PM | #
what do you guys think dudley saw when he saw the dementers do you think he saw voldemort or somthing
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:07 PM | #
I think Dudley is a wizard and really saw Dementors. Only Dudley doesn’t know he is wizard!I think that Petunia gives Ickle Duddykins a potion that subdues his magical powers
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:09 PM | #
maybe petunia had something to do with the prophecy i mean professor trewlawny wrote it honestly who wouldve known
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:09 PM | #
i always wondered what he saw. some might think dudley goes to a wizard school in a different countrey. or maybe he goes through harry’s books and try to learn magic. that might be a little stupid and i doubt that’s how it is
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:11 PM | #
Confirmed information by JK Rowling:
* Rowling has revealed that she has already written the last chapter of this book, although she admitted she would probably have to change some of it. It will reveal what happens to the surviving characters after they leave Hogwarts.
* The last word in the series is currently ‘scar’, though Rowling has admitted that it might change as she finishes the novel.
* Book 7 is almost like part two of the sixth book, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and may thus provide a direct continuation of the plot of that book.
* The Potters’ profession is important to the plot, and there will be a huge revelation about Lily Potter.
* Harry has his mother’s eyes is important to the plot.
* There will be no scene in which Harry or anyone else is playing Quidditch.
* Rita Skeeter will appear again, as will Dolores Umbridge.
* Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth will probably appear (Rowling has confirmed that he’s the barman of Hog’s Head) and more about Dumbledore’s background will be revealed.
* We will find out exactly why Rowling had Sirius killed. The magical mirrors that Sirius gave Harry will appear again.
* We will find out what exactly Dudley saw when he encountered the dementors.
* We will learn about the correspondence between Professor Dumbledore and Petunia Dursley before the death of Harry’s parents.
* More about Harry’s scar will be revealed.
* The fact that Voldemort now has Harry’s blood in him will be significant.
EAster said this earleir do you think he is full of it
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:12 PM | #
why would harry having his mothers eyes be important for the plot does that prove he is related to some one or what
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:13 PM | #
No I think that JK is just lying about a few of those. Plus is the bartender is Aberforth Dumbledore then why does he call himself Will Widdershins? That is comepletely pointless!
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:16 PM | #
where does it say that that is his name will widdershins
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:17 PM | #
the thing about voldemort now having harry’s blood maybe now somone only with that blood can kill voldemort now. so voldemort probably thinks that harry doesen’t have it in him to kill him cuz harry sucks at wizardry pretty much. but if hermione is related to harry maybe they will both help kill voldemort or something. this is getting really weird
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:18 PM | #
In the fifth book Willy Widdershins was causing trouble with the toilets. And then Sirius says the bartender Willy Widdershins…
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:20 PM | #
i think with that part with harrys i that it makes them even more like pushed together or what not cause after voldemort got harrys harrys scar hurt more
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:21 PM | #
no if you read the chapter the hogs head in 5 it describes a man at the bar wrapped in bandaages and later in the book prof. umbrige told harry that was willy widdershins and he was eavesdropping on them.
also more proof aberforth is the bartender his description is a tall man with long grey hair and beard and he looked kinda familliar to harry. also albus mentioned aberforth somewhere in #4 about aberforth putting some charms on goats and in the hog’s head harry thought it smelle like goat a little but the goat thing might be irrevilant
the bar tender is also at albus’ funeral
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:23 PM | #
where does it say his name is will widdershins
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:23 PM | #
in the centar and the sneak in #5 i think. umbridge says it
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:25 PM | #
In the fifth book when Harry Ron and Hermionie are talking to Sirius in the fire…”That was Dung!” Ron exclaimed, ” Why didn’t he greet us?”
“Mundugus was banned from the Hog’s Head 20 years ago” replied Sirius,”and Willy Widdershins has a really good memory”….
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:27 PM | #
Maybe willy widdershins is a frequent customer at hogshead and mundungus offended him and since willy is always at the bar mundungus has to disguise
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:30 PM | #
sirius never said willy diddeshins he just said that barman’s got a long memory.its on page370 you can look you self
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:33 PM | #
i just know aberforth is the barman too much proof.
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:34 PM | #
it says the people that were at the funeral it says and people harry only knew by sight such as the barman of hogshead maybe he goes by will so voldemort wont attack him and get stuff out of him about dumbledore. voldemort shows no sighn of knowing dumbledore has a brother so i bet that is who it is why else would he be at the funeral dumbledore (as far as i know didnt go to hogshead very often unless he did in secret to see his brother which is likely
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:37 PM | #
i bet it is abarforth that way when they had D.A meetings they could keep people out that is why the teachers(in the order) went to talk in book three there cause abarforth could keep the eaters out
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:41 PM | #
guys u noe how i type im wasnt really ME from the 4 post 99-103 i tink above.now it is that person is a retard
Posted on August 17, 2005 02:56 AM | #
i like the theory of hermione being harrys sister but we might be stretching it. after all why would she or anyone else hide something like that. there is no reason not to tell them they are brother and sister especially if by not knowing they “hook up” and then harry will have spend all his time at a psychiatrist rather than killing voldermort.
another problem is that every time hermione is called a mudblood she gets really affended. if she knew they werent her real parents she wouldnt care so much. and dont say shes faking it to make it seem like they are her real parents.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:35 AM | #
jay- like i said earlier there may be a secret keeper charm that was performed
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:56 AM | #
it also says that willy is really tall, doesn’t it
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:04 AM | #
“the barman sidled toward them out of a back room. he was a grumpy-looking old man with a great deal of long gray hair and beard. he was tall and thin and looked vaguely familiar to harry.”
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:16 AM | #
Harry couldn’t see the Threstrals in book 1 because he never did see his parents die. He was in his crib, or w/e. Quirell died after Harry was unconcious. Tom Riddle was only a memory. Basilisk was a snake, not a human. JK Rowling stated that Harry didn’t see them after Cedric died because she didn’t want to bring up a new mystery at the end of the book, therefore he did in the fifth book after he had had time to realise that Cedric was dead, it takes time to cope.
JK Rowling was laughing when people were saying that Dumbledore is Harry/Ron from the future. It is very untrue. you can go to www.jkrowling.com and look up the rumours and rubbish stuff commenting on what people have been saying. Also, you can go to wikipedia and search for different Harry Potter books and characters and it will give a detailed outline of each along with previously unknown facts about the characters because it wasn’t in the books, but most of it JK has hence confirmed and therefore it is a good thing to go and look at.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:20 AM | #
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possessions…..
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this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
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and then i realise….
she loves me not….
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life’s not fair….
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take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
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life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:24 AM | #
ok mr. guy was obviously dropped on his head numerous times as a child
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:32 AM | #
• Immediately when Harry and Dumbledore were discussing the existence of another Horcrux, one previously owned by Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, I saw that Dumbledore had made a mistake. He pointed to the sword Harry had found in book 2, indicating that the “last remaining relic of Gryffindor’s” was safe and therefore not a Horcrux, implying that their efforts would probably be better put to use in looking for some artifact of Ravenclaw’s or some as-yet undiscovered Gryffindor treasure. What he failed to realize was that Gryffindor had in fact left behind another artifact, one which he and Harry were both quite familiar with – the Sorting Hat! It has been mentioned on various occasions that the Sorting Hat once belonged to Gryffindor, and if Dumbledore’s assumptions were correct, that Voldemort really did choose his Horcruxes based on their connection to the Hogwarts legacy, then the Sorting Hat seems the perfect choice. It is also one of the last places anyone would think to look – often the best hiding places are the ones that are not hidden. As soon as I thought of it, though, I thought that surely if it was a Horcrux, then Dumbledore would have detected it. Knowing J.K. Rowling’s style, though, I know that she thinks of everything, therefore she must have remembered that the Sorting Hat belonged to Gryffindor, making any oversight on Dumbledore’s part when pointing things out a potentially significant clue. Wow, try to count the commas in that sentence. I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling the Sorting Hat will probably play a role of some significance in the next book. Seeing as how the Sorting Hat was one of the first magical objects he encountered upon entering Hogwarts his first year, it would be fitting if that were also the last Horcrux he were to destroy in his final year (providing he even returns to Hogwarts, or that the school is open at all) (Ashleigh)
• Although the Sorting Hat may be a Horcruxe I seriously doubt it because when Dumbledore put on Guant’s ring it damaged his hand. All the kids that put the hat on would have some kind of brain damage and the characters seem fine. The hat says that Gryffindor took it off his head and the founders put brains in the hat making it able to talk and think.( Meg )
• Harry Potter is Voldy’s Gryffindor Horcruxe. All this non-sense about “transference of power” and what not… Rowling has said that we get clues as to HP6 & 7 with Chamber of Secrets… what were some of the things? well, we learn Harry is a “true” Gryffindor… ok. We know that Tom Riddle even noticed how “they even look alike”… ok… the sorting hat was confused a bit in HPSS, but stood its ground in CoS…ok… and, we also know now that in order to create the Horcruxe, you have to kill someone, which breaks off your soul and then you capture it and place it somewhere. Ok…. now, what happened before Harry was attacked as a child? Voldy killed his mother. Ok. So, the spell is complete… BUT the murder was a sacrifice from love… so that’s what binded the soul to the Horcrux, in this case Harry… THIS is why he has so many similiarities to Voldy… it’s not Quirrel who couldn’t stand to be touched by Harry, but Vldy… THIS is why Harry and Voldy were at a standstill during GoF… THIS is why Voldy couldn’t possess Harry for long in OoP… THIS is why they were connected for so long… so either Harry IS the Horcruxe, or his lightning scar is (remember reference to lightning in Book 6??)… hence Dumbledore’s initial comment in HPSS “curse marks can come in handy”… Dumbley also said “as long as the Horcruxe is out there, Voldy is in essence immortal…?? if that’s the case, then the prophecy might not mean Harry has to kill Voldy… rather, Harry has to kill Voldy AND then make the ULTIMATE sacrifice, much like his mother and father did. My ultimate prediction, then, is Harry will kill Voldy and then himself. (Oh, and he will forgive Snape)
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:36 AM | #
I think that HArry can’t be a Horcrux. I mean think about it, he is called Harry Potter,the boy who lived, NOT Harry Potter the boy who does by the end of the series! So it is very, very unlikely that Harry is a Horcrux. BUT here is another theory which I like much more, that is kinda saying that a part of Harry is a Horcrux….
Harry SCAR is a Horcrux, after he battles Voldermort he finds a way to transfer the Scar out of him and destroy it. So then he doesn’t have a scar and Voldermort is dead!
Posted on August 17, 2005 11:00 AM | #
hey dumby’s man do u think the harry hermione is even theory worthy
Posted on August 17, 2005 11:17 AM | #
i think something big is going to be revealed about luna lovegood in book seven. her charactor has been getting bigger and bigger as the story goes on. maybe she was adopted or something?
Posted on August 17, 2005 11:22 AM | #
Maybe Luna is harrys sister mrguy just so you know i am not a retard
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:13 PM | #
that would be weird if luna was harrys sister and it doesnt seem likely i think she will end up with neville cause they are both awesome but weird and they both always wanted D.A meetings maybe to see each other?
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:22 PM | #
maybe we all should write our paragraphs like harry says
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:32 PM | #
Kansas: ya I actually sipport te HArry being Hermionie’s bother and I have commented on it in my previous posts… Look at them if you want. I don’t think HArry is related to Luna…
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:52 PM | #
Dumbledore is not dead, number one:
What do you think snape and dumbledore were arguing about, you know the thing that hagrid overheard.
2:When snape used the unforgivable curse dumbledore flew up in the air. usually you just fall to the ground. I think dumbledore had ordered snape to give a spell he would say in his mind, cos he can do that. So he pretended to used avada… but used something else and the death eaters believed he was dead.
3:at the funeral noone uses any magic to put the body in flames it is clearly dumbledores doing, wink wink nudge nudge.
4:When dumbledore was saying please severus….. please he was telling snape to do a spell as snape was hesitating because he didn’t want to hurt dumbledore.What do you say to that!!!!!!!!
5.There is no way harry will be able to get the horcruxes by himself. How can he kill voldermort. What’s he gonna do? Make him levitate!
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:16 PM | #
Give me facts against me to prove dumbledore is dead. Also visit www.dumbleisnotdead.com and i think you will be truly stumped. Good day sir!
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:19 PM | #
also if dumbledore really fell the top of the tower after he got killed he would have broken like every bone in his body. he might’ve used the spell he used on harry when harry was falling in book 3 during quiditch.also jack, a guy named ward had a similar idea on post #7. did u get the idea from that?
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:42 PM | #
also, i have a feeling harry might have to enter the chamber of secrets in book seven, maybe to search for a horcrux or something of the sort. i mean it was created by salazar slytherin, and it did seem pretty big in book two, maybe when tom riddle opened it 50 years previously he kept things there. could be anything. or maybe-probably- there are more hidden secrets of the castle, maybe more secret passage ways that moony, wormtail, padfoot, and prongs didn’t locate, or put on the map.
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:48 PM | #
i read the the dumbledoreisnotdead.com and i believed it. couldn’t that potion dumbledore took from the stone basin in the cave really be draught of the living death and dumbledore already knew the real horcrux was taken? he just showed harry what it would be like to retrieve horcruxes if dumby and harry were split up or something
Posted on August 17, 2005 02:03 PM | #
Kansas, just to inform you I was originally Harry bu then thought of Dumbledore’s man Through and Through so I changed my name to that BUT anyway I still think we can all make our own story through e mails and this…I thoughroughly support the fact that Dumbledore isn’t dead. You know I think that JK is infiltrating all these sights with rumors and putting facts from the seventh book out… Like that one person who was talking with someone else on some website and then the person said I am not JK Rowling and disappeared , maybe that WAS JK! Because she might want to find out some rumors and make changes to the book!
Posted on August 17, 2005 02:38 PM | #
snape always believed that there was a potion”..that could put a stopper in death.”
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:37 PM | #
snape always believed that there was a potion”..that could put a stopper in death.” book one
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:37 PM | #
yes maybe dumby’s man, but why would she ask me if this was all guesswork then. cuz she was afraid that i was on the right track?
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:41 PM | #
did anyone ever wonder what the reason was for hagrid’s 24 hour absense after voldemort’s attack on lily and james? i have an idea
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:47 PM | #
did anyone ever wonder what the reason was for hagrid’s 24 hour absense after voldemort’s attack on lily and james? i have an idea
Posted on August 17, 2005 04:19 PM | #
hello is anyone there???
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:09 PM | #
First, I think RAB is who everyone else thinks it is, Regules Black. although there are some good points that the connection maybe on purpose so that no one expects the real RAB. I dunno, just some thoughts
Secondly, about the horcruxes. I don’t think harry is one for Voldemort.
Thirdly, I don’t think Snape killed Dumbledore. Dumbledore knew malfoy would be killed if he didn’t kill him, so to save one of his students (cuz that’s just the way dumbledore is) he faked his own death. Dumbledore was never afraid of death, and it’s the change in character when Snape came and pointed his wand at Dumbledore, he got a worried expression (maybe pleading with snape to do the spell) that makes me think it was planned. But… IF dumbledore IS in fact dead, could he have a horcruxe? (which would make him not dead anyways) But in the 1st book, it did state the Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald.. so could that mean he killed him? And if he does, could it be harry? harry felt waves of happiness at the funeral, and maybe it’s just part of Dumbledore, since he was always happy. Just my thoughts, i’d be interested to see what everyone thinks of these.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:25 PM | #
hey liza, read 163-188 and tell me what u think……..if u want to, but i think you’ll find it interesting
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:37 PM | #
tell me what u think about it…..also there’s some pretty interesting stuff at www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:39 PM | #
wow
those are quite the theories
hermione and harry siblings… hmm, i think you might be onto someting, but it could be a little fetched. and harry being from voldemort’s blood line could be a high possibility. i never really thought about it.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:53 PM | #
Yes some are the theories are pretty far-fetched but still if you read all of the suggestions they actually make A LOT of snese!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:06 PM | #
true i agree, after i’ve just finished reading more and more of the posts. but don;t you ever wonder if there is nothing behind hermione and harry.. maybe they are just friends, and that’s it. i don’t think there are theories for everything, yet the justification that’s used for the sibling theory is quite good, and makes sense.
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:08 PM | #
the theories all could be true even if there is no justification fr them!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:14 PM | #
i think when the fire lit dumbledore’s tomb.. that’s when he booked it and apparated
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:16 PM | #
“How may timesdo I have to tell you? You cannot apparate or Disapparate in side Hogwarts or on the grouds” Hermionie Granger, EVERY SINGLE BOOK OF HARRY POTTER!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:18 PM | #
also nobody has answered my question from earlier.
-where was hagrid on his 24 hour absense after james and lily were attacked. he was supposed to be bringing harry to the dursley’s, but what else was he doing???bbl
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:18 PM | #
Hagrid had no 24 hour absence after JAmes and Lily’s deaths! Where did you get that crap from???
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:21 PM | #
k well then he didn’t apparate.. but i still think he booked it somehow
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:23 PM | #
what did he do then???
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:24 PM | #
and if he did in fact die.. wut do u think about harry being dumbledore’s horcruxE?
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:25 PM | #
that is comeplete crap!!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:27 PM | #
well then what other theories do YOU have, cuz obviously mine are “complete crap”
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:29 PM | #
well obviously they are look them!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:31 PM | #
I am just posting to state that R.A.B. is more than likely to be Regulus Black because Rowling stated she will not be introducing any new major characters to book 7, and I say the person who took the horcruxe would be very important.
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:42 PM | #
No that is complete balderdash! A horcrux is an EVIL thing! Dumbledore is good
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:45 PM | #
but i still am wondering what people think about Dumbledore having a horcruxe even if he’s not dead
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:45 PM | #
He will mot have a Horcrux! THEY ARE EVIL!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:50 PM | #
I doubt Albus would have a hrocruxe, whether he was planning to die or not. Albus would not do such a thing. If you noticed, everytime Tom made a horcruxe, he lost some of his vitality, whereas Albus still seems perfectly fine, physically.
I think Albus was either reborn from his ashes, Fawkes saved him somehow, or the thing he drank was the “Draught of Living Death.” The only problem with the “Draught of Living Death” theory is that it is supposed to be pink: “The effect was immediate. The potion turned palest pink.” (pg 181 UK edition), but the potion with the locket is green: “The basin was full of an emerald liquid emitting that phosphorescent glow.” (pg 530 UK edition)
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:21 PM | #
couldn’t they make the draught magically turn green from pink? like food coloring. and who thinks the death eaters took Florean Fortescue (ice cream parlor owner) because he was helping dumbledore in some way. in book 3 it said he knew a lot about witch burnings. maybe he figured how to reborn from ashes.
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:49 PM | #
anyone reading this?
“anyone? anyone?…….Buhler, Buhler
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:57 PM | #
HEY! if anyone is on right now just tell me!
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:05 PM | #
oh well i geuss no one is listening. but i did have some really cool idea’s that make sense. but why waste my time if no one is reading? oh well see ya guys
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:12 PM | #
Oh! wait sorry gotta go.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:31 PM | #
dumby’s man
-do u relize how easy it would have been for dumbledore to uundo those enchantments!!! he was the one who not only knew them but put them there too!! he undid wll the ones to fly over the grounds with harry. y not then??
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:31 PM | #
hey did you hear my thing about Fortescue?
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:33 PM | #
dumby’s idiot man-
i got that “crap” from chapters one and two of book one. go ahead. look it up. read the chapters. it’s there.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:34 PM | #
jay could easily be right about the dumby apparating thing
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:40 PM | #
I think hagrid was gone for 24 hours after lily &james died because he had to sort stuff out if hermione is really harry’s sister. and maybe (maybe with ginny)
i think that’s crazy with ginny that she has lily’s hair and james’ eyes.
might just be coinkedink
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:41 PM | #
ya cyberdude that could be possible, what do u think of ollivander vanishing. i’ll bet the eaters will try to give wands to giants or something. that would suck for the order
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:42 PM | #
Ok, first - Dumbledore was not completely physically healthy as he had one hand that was deteriorating. While I don’t believe that he would ever use a Horcrux, it’s possible that this atrophy has something to do with a return.
I do think Snape and Dumbledore are up to something, especially how Dumbledore spoke his name before he ‘killed’ him.
Something new I’m going to say is that I think there is a distinct possiblility that Malfoy ends up on the good side. His moment of weakness in not killing Dumbledore shows a little glimmer of good, and if we assume that Snape is still on the good team, he did make an unbreakable vow to protect Malfoy… so either that happens, or Voldermort kills Malfoy - which I doubt because he has been central in all of the books. Plus Malfoy’s mother doesn’t seem to be 100% on board with the Death Eater thing, and she’s the only parent he has access to at the moment.
Anyway, just my thoughts.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:42 PM | #
exactly what i was thinking cyberjohn- maybe hermione did live with the potters and he was bringing her to the grangers or something, bvut that would mean voldemort didn’t know about her and didn’t find her..idk.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:45 PM | #
Olliver vanished because he was the best with wands. Some escaped death eaters might be after him because they need wands that they can get their best results with.
or maybe ollivander has turned bad. he did say voldemort did great things.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:47 PM | #
malfoy may end up on the good side trent, but in an interview with jk rowling she says that “..harry and draco will hate eachother until they both die.”
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:49 PM | #
if hermione was REALLY his sister wouldn’t harry have seen her in the mirror?
that is one of the things that i dont get
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:49 PM | #
1 min cyber john i wrote down an answer to that odjection somewhere i think 1min…
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:52 PM | #
what do you guys think about my idea about ollivander?
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:52 PM | #
i found this at a sight to busy to figure it out though-A column writer claimed that there’s a possibility that Hermione is Harry’s sister. I doubt it. But I think Hermione related to Harry. She may be James Potter’s mother’s brother’s granddaughter. Maybe James’s mum was muggleborn and her maiden name was Granger! How about it?
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:57 PM | #
the ollivander idea was mine bud, your was the ice-cream dude
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:59 PM | #
maybe hermione wasn’t in the mirror because harry wanted to see the family he had never known, but he didn’t see hermione because she was a member of his family and he already met her so she wasn’t a family member harry didn’t know.
idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:59 PM | #
i think part of hagrid being late to drop off harry in the first book, was because he was visiting sirius. after all, the motorcyle hagrid rode WAS borrowed from Sirius
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:01 PM | #
yeah i guesse she could be related like that.
i was asking what people thought of my idea about ollivander in comment#495
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:01 PM | #
that’s wut i think of your question for hagrid being late kansas
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:02 PM | #
but sirius showed up at the scene whan hagrid was there and gave him the bike
that mirror idea is pretty good cyberjohn
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:06 PM | #
Don’t you guys think it’s a little weird that Ginny has Lily’s hair and James’ eyes. she COULD be related. a clue might be because harry felt just as upset as ron was when they cought her kissing.
but this theory leads to the thing that harry & ginny ended up going out w/ eachother.
it’s just really confusing
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:07 PM | #
hmm.. well that’s all i got for your question, so i guess i have nothing
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:08 PM | #
what do u guys think of my idea on post #207..jw.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:09 PM | #
Yes after a while this sight does get EXTREMELY confusing…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:10 PM | #
it IS a possibility. i think that is very likely. but Dumbledore said only a true Gryfindor could pull the sword out of the hat. i don’t understand how voldemort could get horcruxes inside of the hat.
it is convincing
i agree with kansas
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:12 PM | #
ya i was thinking that too right when dumbledore said the only thing that was left that belong to gryffindor was the sword… cuz what about hat! i also think it might be
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:12 PM | #
why would hemione being harrys sister be a secret. why would anyone wanna keep it from harry
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:13 PM | #
I think Fortescue did find a way to be reborn from you ashes or something that is why he was kidnapped. And if Harry is Ginny’s brother that is WRONG!!!!!! I mean wo goes out with their own sister?????
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:13 PM | #
that ginny thing was my idea from the beginning, idk, then that would mean-wait a min. what if ginny is really a year older than everybody thinks she is. maybe she harry’s twin sister. maybe it’s not a coincidence that lucious malfoy chose her to have the diary in book two, but that would mean that voldy knows she is harry’s sister. idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:14 PM | #
if all these theories are right, the 7th book is gonna be very long, because of all the connections and explanations
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:15 PM | #
I-AM-SO-CONFUSED!!!
i hate gay rumors. i do doubt harry and ginny are related. maybe it’s just coincidence
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
Ginny is not Harry’s sister that just doesn’t seem possible. No I think Voldermort doesn’t know that Hary has any sibling if he does…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
jay- ithink i’ve told u this about 3 times now- a secret keeper charm was performed-woe, maybe that’s why jkr sais that it is important that lily’s wand was good for charmwork
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
you guys are really stretching this ginny thing. she has red like every other weasley. her being harry’s siter is the one thing i could say for sure is wrong.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
What was the charm secret keeper charm to do?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:18 PM | #
what the heck is secret keeper charm and why would anyone want it to be done in this situation
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:18 PM | #
ya jay, i kinda agree with that. it’s kinda fetched. hermione i’ll take into somekind of consideration.. but ginny? idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:18 PM | #
no duh not all of these ideas are true- not even a quarter of them are true
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:19 PM | #
Yes Hermionie seems very likely after reading all the things people point out on this website. But Ginny is really far-fetched. idk you never know…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:20 PM | #
i never said the ginny idea was true! u guys, these are just ideas to discuss
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:20 PM | #
a secret keeper charm has one person keep the secret it’s hard to explain. read about it in the 3rd book on page205
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:21 PM | #
ya, but i don’t think i’m gonna give the ginny and harry being siblings anymore thought. although at the time, it was an interesting thought.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:22 PM | #
who’s idea was the hemione harry thing anyways
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:22 PM | #
Yes I agree not even a eight of these ideas are true I think about 1 out of every hundred is true. But then there aren’t that many ideas I mean somebody will say some thing and we will talk about that until some one else get a lightbulb…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:22 PM | #
who’s idea was the hemione harry thing anyways and all the hints and proof
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:23 PM | #
i thought you got the harry hermy thing from some site or something kansas
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:24 PM | #
the secret keeper thing couls still be revealed by the person holding the secret. and again why would someone put a secret keeper thing on this. why would lily or anyone want this to be a secret.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:24 PM | #
I am not sure whos idea the Hermionie Harry thing was… Look a couple hundred posts back…YA same here I won’t give the Harry Ginny thing anymore thought…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:25 PM | #
kansas, i first heard of that idea from one of your posts
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:27 PM | #
Liza- it’s The Marauder’ Map i think on page 209 in the american version
im goin to turn in now
i won’t be back until sunday night if anyone cares.
DANG i wish i had a laptop
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:27 PM | #
Yes maybe a promise but why a SECRET KEEPER CHARM on the fact that Hermionie is Harry’s sister? And plus the secret keeper thing can only be performed by the Fidelus Charm which only hides OBJECTS!
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:27 PM | #
jay- they would want it to be a secret that hermione is harry’s sister so that voldemort doesn’t kill off they’re whole family. if he does this he is one huge step closer to immirtality
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:28 PM | #
Yes the orginal idea of Hermionie being Harry’s sister was from one of your posts kansas…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:30 PM | #
well when i get back i’ll have some reading to get too. the number of comments will most likely triple
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:30 PM | #
u guys about the secret keeper charm- i’m sick of the quesions. read post 163 i think it is. the harry hermione idea was mine. it was a couple of cays ago i said it
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:32 PM | #
hmm, i don’t think harry has siblings. just harry. but i guess we won’t know until the final book
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:32 PM | #
In the beggining people would post 3-4 times a day with long posts. Now it is more like an iming page..
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:33 PM | #
i have another hunch about ollivander but it’s too long to start. i”l get up really early before i leave.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:33 PM | #
well if it was your idea, then why’d you ask who’s idea it was?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:33 PM | #
the keeper charm is to a hide an oblect not keep a secret. and there is no harm is letting out the secret now. and the keeper charm allows the person holding the secret to reveal it
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:35 PM | #
i seriously didn’t remember. it was a couple of days ago like i said
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:37 PM | #
in the first book it said that voldemort never tried to convince lily and james to be on his side.. any theories on this?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:41 PM | #
and also, hagrid said “dunno if he (voldemort) had enough human left in him to die.” does hagrid know about the horcruxes? (not saying he’s R.A.B.)
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:47 PM | #
no u r totally wrong about that jay, the secret keeper charm is performed by the person or people who have a secret. they choose one person (the secret keeper)to be able to tell people the secret. anybody else who says the secret probably dies or something.sirious convinced lily and james to choose peter pettigrew at the last minute to be there secret keeper about where they lived or something like that. it doesn’t exactly say what they wanted hidden from people/voldemort, maybe that’s a twist. this was how peter was able to feed this info to voldy, not anybody else.also another example is dumbledore was the secret keeper for the order of the pheonix, or the secret of it’s location. this is why ron and hermione can’t tell harry where they are in book five. that’s why the group that transported harry from dursley’s to #12 couldn’t tell either. only when moody gave harry a slip of paper written by dumby(the their secret keeper)it said #12 grimauld place. the second harry read it it burst into flames….the secretkeeper for harry and hermione’s secret siblinghood is the only person that can reveal it to harry. this is y hermione cann’t and never did tell harry about them. she couldn’t…get it now?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:47 PM | #
he couldn’t or didn’t convince them because they defied(escaped him 3 times)
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:49 PM | #
well what i meant, is maybe you were onto something when you said voldy’s james’ uncle and he had to kill off the family. that’s why he didn’t want james to be on his side in the first place. idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:52 PM | #
well who is the secret keeper for this secret. i would think it is hermione. but whoever it why cant they reveal it. like peter revealed the potters secret so to hermione or whoever is keeping the secret should have givin up the secret once voldermort died (or sort of died)
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:52 PM | #
hagris HAS been at hogwarts for more than 50 years. he could know alot of things
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:53 PM | #
kansas did i finally convince u im right or not
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:58 PM | #
i’m 13
and if this is true i doubt hermione is the secret keeper,she would have been the secret keeper since before her first year or since she was told. i think the secret keeper isn’t and can’t and shouldn’t reveal the secret because if they tell harry or hermione(if she doesn’t know, but i think she does,((my proof she knows is in posts164-188)))they would blab at somepoint, but could they? if they are told they’re still not the secret keeper so they can’t really tell anyone after that, idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:59 PM | #
i doon’t think hermione and harry are siblings
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:00 PM | #
how old r u?
i gotta hit the sack!it’s 1:00 A.M. where i live! u?
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:02 PM | #
u seem less sure of urself than before. after voldermot died whoever the secret keeper was should have told the secret so family could be reunited. i could think of 20 good things that could come out from revealing the secret after voldermort died and not one bad reason to reveal it. the only way i could possibly think of this secret not being told is if the secret keeper died in which case we will never know
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:03 PM | #
have u read my proof 164-188. idk there’s alot of it. who knows . we’ll just have to wait
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:04 PM | #
man i must be one of the youngest people here. except zelph, he sounds younger than me idk y.lol.
cya 2mar0
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:06 PM | #
i read ur proofs and it sounded good at the time but now that i thought about it i highly highly doubt harry and hermione are bro and sis
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:06 PM | #
ya bye kansas.. i don’t think harry and hermione are related. just too much behind it to be true and too non-important.
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:08 PM | #
do u like arby’s or do u hate it? just answer
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:09 PM | #
rochester is pretty far from me. where r u from. and im only 14.
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:10 PM | #
Well I am younger than you too kansas…
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:11 PM | #
What is Arby’s???
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:13 PM | #
the food place?? good lord this is off topic. i’m out later
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:14 PM | #
and i’m not from kansas and i don’t live in kansas i’m from and live in michigan.
-also, i have a feeling harry might have to enter the chamber of secrets in book seven, maybe to search for a horcrux or something of the sort. i mean it was created by salazar slytherin, and it did seem pretty big in book two, maybe when tom riddle opened it 50 years previously he kept things there. could be anything. or maybe-probably- there are more hidden secrets of the castle, maybe more secret passage ways that moony, wormtail, padfoot, and prongs didn’t locate, or put on the map….cya tomorrow(for good)i’m gone
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:14 PM | #
Yes I agree I think there are hundreds if not thousands(just kidding lol) of passageways in Hogwasrts… hundreds not thousands…
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:16 PM | #
i agree with kansas seeing as how voldemort is the heir of slytherin the chamber of secrets would be a logical place ti find a horcrux
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:58 PM | #
i agree with kansas seeing as how voldemort is the heir of slytherin the chamber of secrets would be a logical place ti find a horcrux
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:58 PM | #
no i didn’t kansaz. maybe just maybe we should just wait for the next book, and let rowling surprise us. except it might be two years till the next book comes out because of her babies. hmmmmmmm. what will happen when all the books have finished. Who has seen goblet of fire trailer?????
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:44 AM | #
Snape is probably on the good side. I mean look at how much trust dumbledore had in him. A wizard that clever can’t be wrong. However maybe we have to except that dumbledore is dead. WE always knew she would kill him off one day didn’t we kansas.
It is a task harry must do alone eh. Either way if hes dead or not i am not going to leave the house till i finish the 7th book because there is always one person who reads it in like an hour then ruins it for me. I hated it when someone told me dumbledore was killed before i read it. I almost slapped him. That ever happened to u guys????
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:49 AM | #
trailers cool i read fast im the one who tells ppl LOL
Posted on August 18, 2005 05:59 AM | #
People respond to to this you know RAB for reg black. Mudungus nicked some things from sirius home. One of them was the locket!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m sure someone has already mentioned this/ The locket hasn’t been destroyed. J.K Rowling has already written the final chapter
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:04 AM | #
So shes written the ending for the last book ooooooooooooooooo spooky. I bet Ron and Hermione will get together but nothing will happen to harrys love life. Someone important will die and harry will discover some crazy secret . Your a woman harry……
I’D KAUGH IF IT SAID HARRY AWOKE IN LILY AND JAMES POTTERS HOUSE IT WAS ALL A DREAM…
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:08 AM | #
So shes written the ending for the last book ooooooooooooooooo spooky. I bet Ron and Hermione will get together but nothing will happen to harrys love life. Someone important will die and harry will discover some crazy secret . Your a woman harry……
I’D lAUGH IF IT SAID HARRY AWOKE IN LILY AND JAMES POTTERS HOUSE IT WAS ALL A DREAM…
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:08 AM | #
oops sorry for posting the same thing twice. Do you think danile radcliffe and the gang will do all 7 movies. Maybe they’ll put make up on to make them look younger. What do you think?
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:10 AM | #
James and Lily went into hiding because they were marked for death.
I believe the reason Voldy has ollivander is because he wants to learn how to overcome the problem of wand’s brothers fighting eachother. In GoF Voldy and Harry are fighting, and Voldy’s wand starts shooting out dead people.
I doubt Harry and Hermione and siblings in any way, it just wouldn’t seem right. If they are though, in the mirror, Harry probably wouldn’t have seen her because he didn’t know he had a sister.
Btw, I have seen the trailer for GoF, looks good. But the movie cuts out: Mrs. Weasley, Dooby, Winky, Percy, Bill or Charlie (I forget which), Ludo Bagman and Sirius only has one seen in the fire.
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:13 AM | #
I think they will use the same actors (unless some die or something) … I think Hermione and Ron will get together, and I think Harry and Ginny will “make love” by the end of the book … lol … And I was the one who said JK wrote the last chapter, however she expects it to change between now and the publish date. The last word is also “scar” currently … If anyone know any major differences between the UK edition and the American Edition, could you please tell me. I know the American Edition says something like “He can’t kill you if you are already dead.” (Dumble says that to Draco) which is a major hint that Dumble might not be dead …
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:23 AM | #
Guys, regarding Dumbledore’s death. Well, from what I’ve heard, there are 3 possibilities. 1. Dumbledore faked death and he’s still alive. The pros are that he said he could easily fake someone’s death and of course, he is a powerful wizard, we did not see his body at the funeral, his wand hasn’t been found and snapped in 2 like it happens with dead wizard’s wands and the fact that Snape’s Avada Kedavra spell was acting very different then it usually does. The cons are the fact that he appears in the portrait, the revulsion in Snape’s eyes, the part where Harry sais “he knew the Phoenix had left this school for good, just like Dumbledore had left this world”. The second possibility is that he is dead but Snape killed him on his own orders.
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:50 AM | #
the pros are the discussion between Snape and Dumbledore that Hagrid overheard, of course, everything Snape has done for the Order, the fact that Dumbledore trusts him SO much and the possibility that the revulsion and hatred in Snape’s eyes when he kills Dumbledore is because of what he is forced to do and not because of Dumbledore. And also the possibility that Dumbledore’s pleading was for Snape to kill him, not to let him alive. I have also thought of something else. If Snape was as powerful as JKR wants us to think, if he had been on the Dark Side, why would he be a simple servant of Voldemort when he could actually be “the leader”? I mean, being so powerful and all. The cons - well, Snape really fits the typical Death Eater, he also hates most of the people in the Order, as he said in the chapter “Spinner’s End”, Voldemort is a powerful Legilimens and, even if Snape is a good Occlumens, could he really foool the most powerful Legilimens?!?
And the third possibility - Dumbledore is dead and Snape killed him willingly, on Voldemort’s orders, the hatred look on his face was indeed because he hated Dumbledore and well, you know all the pros and cons.
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:00 AM | #
Personally, I would bet on the 3rd option, which is also the one I like best and find most interesting.
But I don’t find the matter of Dumbledore’s death or Snape’s side as interesting as the subject of R.A.B. Who could R.A.B be? Well,m of course, we all thought of Regulus Black, possibly Regulus Alphard Black, if he took his uncle’s name. That would explain the A in the middle. But why Regulus Black? There are only 2 pros for that. The letters (at least the R and the B) fit for Regulus Black and only him, from all the characters in the book. He is also dead. But besides that, why him? I mean, those two are not really convincing. There would also be the locket mentioned in OOTP, when they were cleaning the house. But if so, wouldn’t Harry had found it familiar when he saw it in Hokey’s memory? I personally think R.A.B. is Regulus, too, mostly because there is no other candidate. And I am sure R.A.B is someone we know, because JKR wouldn’t have left us like that unless she wanted us to figure out who he was. But it still is a bit obvious. I don’t understand, though. Regulus was described as a fresh member of the Death Eaters, who is easily scared and quite stupid. Now, how could such a person find out about the Horcruxes? Because Voldemort didn’t tell anyone about them, not even his most faithful Death Eaters. So why would he tell Regulus? It doesn’t make sense. Let’s ignore that and say he somehow found out. But how could he had actually found it and destroyed it, all in one year? It took Dumbledore more than a year to find it, and don’t tell me Regulus was a better wizard than Dumbledore! And also, supposing he had found out about it and about its location…how could he have destroyed it? He was weak, stupid and easily scared! How can such a person do something like that? It doesn’t really make sense. So, if any of you have any more pros about Regulus being R.A.B., please write them.
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:12 AM | #
maybe he kills voldermort and his scar disappears. Or maybe just maybe just maybe it was scarf not scar! By the way when i post news i can’t really tell if someone has already posted the same noise cos i’m not gona read everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so calm down easter.
Neville will die i read it!
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:55 AM | #
I also read that harry gets off with hermione, in front of cho chang so she kissed ron. Then
Ginny catches harry and hermione so goes back to dean who sadly died because voldermort came to school and killed everyone with a name beggining with d. But dumbledore names started with albus. harry and Hermione got married in sunny mexico. Ha the ending is ruined for you!!!! Voldermort is only mentioned for two pages.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:01 AM | #
Hey im getting tired of having to scroll down to the bottom of the page every time there is a new comment.
i have an idea, whoever has msn messenger add my email to their list so it is easier to talk, cuz this page is getting too long.
you can have as many people you want in an msn conversation. so anyone that has msn messenger add my email cahte@hotmail.com to their contacts list so it’s easier to talk.
ps make sure your screenname is the same one on this site.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:23 AM | #
When i get to the bottom i go back to the top of the slide then u stop and u turn and i go for a ride, then i get to the bottom and i’ll See U AGAIN!!!!!!!!! Yeah yeah. Do u don’t you want me to love u! I’m coming down fast but i’m miles above u!!!!!!!!!! Tell me tell me the answer you maybe a lover but u ain’t no dancer!!!!!!!!! Helter skelter, Helter skelter. Ooooooooooooo.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:47 AM | #
i heard that jk has already finished the &th book and is just waiting 2 years because she’s afraid she’s made mistakes and not written enough and stuff like that. i hope the last book is like 1000 pages. that would suck if it was as long as the half blood prince. i was pretty dissapointed to see how short it was when i first bought it
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:49 AM | #
kansas, youre onlt 13?
zelph &me are almost16
any way do you have msnmessenger?
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:56 AM | #
• I think it is regulus black, sirius’s brother the death eater who was killed by voldemort 16yr’s before HBP.
• Could it be Siruis’s brother? Regulus Black, I can’t find his middle name, it isn’t on the tapestry. Plus we know that Lord V killed him for trying to back out of the DE. Could he have switched the horcrux prior to being killed?
• In book 6, chapter 28 “Flight of the Prince”, on page 609, Harry reads a note from an anonymous person by the initials of R.A.B. The note says:
“To the Dark Lord, I know I will be dead long before you read this but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret. I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can. I face death in the hope that when you meet your match, you will be mortal once more. R.A.B.”
After much thought, I have come to suspect that Regulus Black, Sirius’ brother, wrote this letter. He is the only person, thus far, that has been mentioned with those initials in the Harry Potter series. We can assume that Regulus was a Death Eater, as was the rest of the family, except Sirius. And in book 6, chapter 3 on page 50, Dumbledore mentions Sirius’ brother, saying that he died before Sirius and bore no children. I do not know why Regulus would have sought and taken the locket Horcrux, but one can guess it was because Lord Voldemort was upset with him in some way and Regulus knew that he was going to be killed anyway.
• Well, we all seem to think it’s Regulus, and I must agree. For further proof, consider this. In book 5, when they’re at Grimmauld Place, which is the Black family house, they find a “heavy locket” that they can’t open. That HAS to mean Regulus got the true Horcrux, left a fake one in its place, and brought the real one back to the Black family house, and that’s what the kids found in book 5, but didn’t realize it at the time. That just makes sense.
• I agree that RAB is Sirius’ brother. I also think the locket was once at 12 Grimmauld Place, as were several of the other Horcruxes (Perhaps the goblet that clued Harry into the fact Mundungus was stealing from him? Is that the Hufflepuff cup?) But I think that Mundungus Fletcher may have taken these items when he stripped the place as Harry found out just outside of the Three Broomsticks in chapter 12. I think Harry will spend quite a bit of time following up on Mundungus Fletcher’s whereabouts in book 7.
• I believe that R.A.B is Regulus Black. It is believed he was a Death Eater, and was murdered for backing out of some thing Lord Voldemort wanted him to do. I went back and checked the 5th and 6th books for clues about Reguls and his possesions. I realized that on page 116 in the 5th Harry Potter book they mention a locket that none of them can open. This could be Slytherin’s locket. Regulus could have died from taking the locket from the cave , and then hiding it from Voldemort at number 12 Grimmauld Place.
• regulus black, sirius’s brother. he wrote the letter adressed to the ‘dark lord’ because that’s the way death eaters call voldemort. he hide the horcrux in his house, in fact, in the order of the fenix the locket is mentioned among the other stuff that harry and the others were cleaning.
• I also think R.A.B. is Regulus Black, however I’m not sure the locket in book 5 is the Slytherin’s locket because then there would have been a curse on anyone who tried to open the locket, and they all tried. Just a thought.
• The middle name of RAB could be the same as sirus’s favouite uncle. Sirus also said he didn’t thing his brother important enought to be killed by Voldermort. I think Snape was given the task and let Sirus’s brother go free.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:01 AM | #
idk how can i tell if i do, id really pay attention to that stuf i just send stuff
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:02 AM | #
hello? hey i’m sitting here playing pinball waiting for u guys to talk>
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:14 AM | #
It’s a bit cheeky of mudungus to steal the goblet horcrux. Give him a slap kansas
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:22 AM | #
Trust me she wouldn’t sit there for two years thinking will people like my last book. If she writes that fast she must of had a very clear vision of the ending. Also it doesn’t take that long to the scroll to the bottom, it takes under one second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:25 AM | #
what do u guys think is one of the funniest parts in the harry potter. also i just had a thought. i think ollivander might be a death eater. he may have set up the scene in the store to make it look like he was dragged out and all his wands were stolen. in book one after harry spoke with him for the first time it says harry didn’t like him that much and he didn’t know y. olly may have been waiting this whole time for voldemort to return, and then chose to return to him after the “2nd war” began. just a thought
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:26 AM | #
RAB for regulus black??? Why is there an A in it. I reckon harry will look at the note at the dursleys, and find out what RAB means and get pi***d. He’ll go out and get it off mudungus first before he gets off with Hermione. Ginny will help him before she gets off with malfoy. Its a bad ending but hey it’s mudungus fault. What do you think kansas?
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:29 AM | #
jackie-poo-jk r was writing parts of every book while she writing the first book. it says this in many of her interviews. also y not make her fans wait another 2 years, it will build up the suspence for the ultimate climax.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:29 AM | #
Because in one of her interviews she said all she done is written the last chapter. The reason it’s not coming out for another two years is because now shes got kids, and there’s not much time to write. Were talking like a chapter a month. Don’t call me jackie poo
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:32 AM | #
AHHH KANSAS I DO LIKE YOU, BUt your IDEA OF FUN IS PINBALL ON THE P.C. OLLIVANDER COULD BE EVIL YEAH…….. SHUOLDN’T WE WAIT THOUGH. IM STARTING TO THINK U GUYS ARE TOO CLEVER AND THAT THERE WON’T BE ANY SURPRISES IN THE LAST BOOK COS YOU’VE SUSSED IT OUT
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:35 AM | #
jack- in an interview with editor of the leaky cauldron(magazine) jk is asked if rab is regulus black. jk responds.”that would a….um..fine guess!”
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:35 AM | #
ah!found it!
a rumor”harry potter will not end with book seven.”jk replies
“nope, it will. the final book is already done, and ready- though we can peobably expect it only after another year. so book seven will be the final one.”
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:41 AM | #
srry my best friend’s name is jack and everybody calls him jackie-poo or jaque. couldn’t resist
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:43 AM | #
I THINK SOMETHING BIG IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO GINNY. USUALLY ROWLING NEVER TALKS SO MUCH ABOUT HARRYS INTERESTS WITH GIRLS, LIKE CHO CHANG WAS OT MENTIONED AS MUCH AS GINNY. VOLDERMORT GOING TO USE GINNY, BECAUSE IT WHATS HARRY WOULD RISK HIS LIFE FOR. MAYBE LURE HIM. I WAS SURPRISED HOW THERE WAS ALOT ABOUT GINNY. I THINK ROWLING IS REALLY TRYING TO GET US TO KNOW ABOUT GINNY. LIKE THAT POTION IN THE CLASS WHICH HAS THE SMELL OF WHAT YOU LOVE MOST. WHEN GINNY WALKS BEST HIM AND HE CAN SMELL THE STRONG POTION ON HER. THE THING HE MOST LOVES. SHE MIGHT DIE, BUT I DON’T THINK ROWLING WOULD KILL OF SUCH A FIT GIRL(WHEN SHE’S OLDER AS WE ONLY REALLY SEE HER IN THE FILMS AS 12)I HATE THE WAY HARRY BUTS ON HIS HEROIC WAYS AND SAYS. “GINNY WE CAN’T SEE EACHOTHER AGAIN, I’VE GOT TO FIGHT HIM ALONE……………………………………………………………………………………………….. OH HARRY SHES THE ONLY GOOD LOOKING GIRL IN HOGWARTS WHO ACTUALLY LIKES YOU. WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:44 AM | #
jack, zlph, dumby’s man, cyberdude, do u guys have sn’s
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:45 AM | #
please read what i said above even though its long. Yeah i’m just asking what does the a stand for in rab. SHe hasn’t finished the book show me proof.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:46 AM | #
yeah but i don’t use it because i am fat ugly and a big sweat
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:47 AM | #
oh yeah ginny. How old are u anyway, because i would rather go out with a ginny my age
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:53 AM | #
it could be anything. alphard, whatever tonks dad or uncle’s name is it starts with an A. how am i supposed to know
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:55 AM | #
bonnie is the girl who plays ginny in the movies. look her up on google images
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:56 AM | #
i’m thirteen,born in 1991. bonnie wright is 13, born 1991. i’m only six months older than her.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:59 AM | #
hey hey i’m going for her, nah go on yahoo images. She looks great on her black and white picture. berzing. Would u go out with her, even with the fame side???
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:01 AM | #
i’ll be back later i got other things to do cya
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:03 AM | #
i’m going for her, get out of my way kansas shes mine. I could see it now the headline heroic boy goes out with damsel in distress bonnie
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:03 AM | #
duh i would, i’m gone not coming back till later cya
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:04 AM | #
okay, i think that the death eater’s that escaped from Azkaban are after Ollivander because he makes the best wands and the death eaters need wands that they can get good results with. so ollivander went into hiding because he might not want anything to do with the death eaters. it says ollivander’s shop didn’t have any sign of a struggle. but fortescue’s shop looked like he had been dragged out. maybe fortescue was behind dumbledore’s body burning cuz he fortescue knew a lot about witch burning and the death eaters found out he was helping dumbledore so they kidnapped him.
maybe
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:13 AM | #
Why do you want to go out with Bonnie Wright?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:13 AM | #
all of the child actors in harry potter movies are all ugly and are the worst actors in the world. Napoleon Dynamite was a better movie than the harry potter ones. the books are all right but the movies suck
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:16 AM | #
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it’s way easier
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:18 AM | #
why wouldn’t i want to go out with bonnie wight ask yourself that! She’s not 11 anymore ok…..
Also ollivander i think that the death eaters wouldn’t get him for wands, because he had the best. It doesn’t matter what wand you have it’s how you use it!!!!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:21 AM | #
geez fine just anyone that is on tell me if my messenger idea was good
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:21 AM | #
jack what are you 5 years old? i have seen way hotter chicks. do you have messenger?!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:25 AM | #
CyberJohn: I have MSN Messenger…
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:33 AM | #
DO YOU KNOW What i do have msn messanger. I hardly ever use it but u know what i’ll try and use it for u. I’ll try and make an account now cyber. i’ll tell you if i can
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:49 AM | #
grrr sorry cyber john, it was nice knowing u though
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:53 AM | #
Regulus could have found a second person, a very powerful wizard, to go with him to find the locket. As Dumbledore pointed out, it was not a job meant for 1 person to complete. Perhaps Snape? Snape then rats out Regulus to look good to Voldemort, but doesn’t tell Voldy where the locket is.
Snape may also know what Voldy’s other Horcruxes are and could help Harry in the final book, but only if he finds that Harry is a worthy wizard, which may take some convincing. Harry will have to work on his Occlumency again.
Dumbledore is dead, but may still help out Harry somehow.
I think Harry is the last Horcrux (Voldemort made a significant killing in that location, didn’t know what kind of magic he was getting into, what with at least 5 other Horcruxes out there and fell victim to more powerful forces then he had expected). Voldemort has realized, after sharing thoughts with Harry, that the Horcrux is intact, so he does not want Harry killed. I think he will want to keep Harry alive so that he can continue living.
Posted on August 18, 2005 11:04 AM | #
so someone puts a fake goblet in the potion thingy? what about that neither can live while the other survives? Didn’t they say harry can’t be hurt if he stays at the dursleys because petunia is the last relative lily evans and the same blood runs through of sacrifice. It will be another curse which backfires…
Posted on August 18, 2005 11:37 AM | #
u guys in book 5 or maybe six. harry is talking with dumbledore after dumbledore was telling him more secrets about harry to harry. dumbledore says that now that harry’s blood is in harry every time voldemort gets stronger harry will as well. after dumdy tells him this harry asks if there is a limit to this power struggle. dumbledore sais yes, that is why “..neither can live while the other survives.” one of them has to die for the other to gain power eventually. i’ll try to find the exact word. 1 min…
Posted on August 18, 2005 12:27 PM | #
so kansas i finally got a date with ginny beat ya to it
Posted on August 18, 2005 12:50 PM | #
Ya I mean what are you talking about Jack?
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:38 PM | #
i can’t really think of any more big ideas. wow
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:40 PM | #
that’s a little off the topic of the book… but ok…
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:41 PM | #
ya i know wut you mean kansas. it gets all to confusing, and then you just can’t think anymore anyways
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:42 PM | #
o i got one. i think something big is already going to happen to harry on his way back to the dursleys in book 7. i mean all the other books end in him going back, and half the books are longer than book 6. so y not make book six a little (maybe a couple pages) longer to include harry’s return trip? something is going to happen, or be discovered
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:44 PM | #
maybe, either that and then it will ruin fleur and bill’s wedding, or it will happen after it, cuz it said that there was still one last golden day of peace left to enjoy with ron and hermione
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:52 PM | #
but after a quick checkk ALL the books did say something about following uncle vernon out of the station, or returning to the muggle gateway
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:56 PM | #
o ya but that could just mean oooo yah! he had a peaceful day for once, and then he gets to go back to the dursley’s for what will probably be a short visit.or maybe jk will include that golden day in the last book. idk.
- but i still think something’s gonna happen with the chamber of secrets and the sorting hat and the mirror of erised and the room of requirement. i mean it IS the room of REQUIREMENT
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:58 PM | #
ya but the mirror.. idk. it was just to reveal his power to love. that what dumbledore said i think. and he said it was going to be destroyed. but he didn’t say it was a horcruxe, so maybe it was just a mirror to show harry’s power that he didn’t know he had
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:01 PM | #
well i think in the 7th book, the Bloody Baron will be more involved cuz i’m pretty sure the way he died was from the sectumsempra, and i think that will be a part… unless hogwarts closes then i’m not sure where it will be brought up.
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:10 PM | #
Liza that is a good idea. MAybe he did die from Sectrrumspectra! That is why he is the BLOODY baron! Somebody probably used Sectrumspectra on him and then left him.
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:14 PM | #
k well i’ll bb in like an hour or so cya bye
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:15 PM | #
and in the first book, it said that no one knew really how he died, cuz nearly headless nick didn’t ask him, and if snape made up the curse.. maybe snape killed him
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:19 PM | #
but it think bloddy baron is too old for snape to have killed him.. so someone else had to have known the curse
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:20 PM | #
i think all of the gohsts will have decent role in 7. a kid asked jk in an interview how wizards become ghosts. she just says that we will have to wait for book seven to find out. that’s y she hasn’t written much about it in the first six books. it will be A big climax in book seven.
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:22 PM | #
well it’s gonna have to be if it’s the last book, it has to wrap everything up
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:24 PM | #
i personally think that the grey lady of ravenclaw is in fact rowena ravenclaw herself. she knows dark secrets about the heir of slytherin or something. y wouldn’t she have a name like the bloody baron or sir nicholas… i don’t have book six with me id remember his full name…porpinkton or something nick…….porpinkton..w/e
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:27 PM | #
his full name is sir nicholas de mimsy-porpington
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:29 PM | #
what do u guys think will happen with filch. also i think there might be a secret passage off of the library. u know one of the classic pull a book off a shelf a reaveal what’s in the debts of big scary tunnel #1. ??????
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:34 PM | #
Yes I agree. But whenever the ghosts are mentioned they never really describe the grey lady of Ravenclaw. I mean they don’t talk about how the Fat Friar died but the portray him as a jolly ghost. Nick is a normal ghost and the Baron is gaunt and silent. WAIT!! Why is Peeves afraid of the Baron? Maybe Peeves killed the Baron and then Baron came back to haunt him! That is why Peeves is afraid of him!
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:36 PM | #
lol, maybe and in the first book it said they (ron harry hermione) came across a secret passage in the statue of smarmy.. that may come into effect
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:37 PM | #
maybe.. because the bloody baron is the only one that can control peeves
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:38 PM | #
liza i thought of the exact same thing about the statue of smarmy acouple of days ago! but i didn’t post it. wasn’t it lee jordan who said he found a secret passage and the twins figured it was “..the behiind the statue of smarmy we found in our first week.” how do we know the one with smarmy is one of the four fred and george tell harry not to take in book three while showing and giveing him the maradaur’s map
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:49 PM | #
Why is it that the Bloody Baron is the only one able to control Peeves?
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:49 PM | #
That is probably going to play a big role in the last book! Maybe Voldermort or some Death Eaters are know about it! That is how they get in and then the last battle will take place there! And I also think one Harry, Ron ,and Hermionie turn seventeen they are going to join the Order! Well Harry atleast. And maybe at the end the wizarding world will be exposed to the muggle world and they will live in peace
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:53 PM | #
i’ll bet the bloody baron was murdered by a dark wizard at the top of the w/e tower. nick says the bloody baron mopes around at the top of i don’t remember what tower. “..it is a favorite past time of his.”
i also believe that peeves and the bloody baron knew eachother while they were alive
-i don’t have my hbp with me
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:06 PM | #
oh ya your right, lee jordan did thought he found a new passage but the weasleys thought it was the Gregory the Smarmy statue one. there were 7 passages in all. and finch know about 4. there was one behind a mirror that was completely blocked off, but they still used it until it caved in, and there’s one right by the whooping willow, and one that leads right into the cellar of Honeydukes, and the entrance was through the one-eyed old corne’s hump.. but that’s only three they said
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:08 PM | #
what idea is gonna play a big role dumby’s man?
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:10 PM | #
Two things…
I think Peeves used Sectrumspectra on the Baron. This is some how going to play a bg role in the outcome of the book.
There probably is a Death Eater who knows about the Smarmy passage and will lead LV and all the Death Eaters into Hogwarts for the final battle
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:13 PM | #
maybe.. but then why would peeves be scared of the baron? wouldn’t it be the other way around?
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:15 PM | #
But maybe he killed the Baron with Sectrumspectra and tehn the Baron haunted him or did something to him ato make him scared and then Peeves died! That is why he is scared maybe the Baron know what he is scared of!
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:19 PM | #
hmm, i suppose that’s good logic. but i do believe either way that the Bloody Baron was killed using the Sectrumspectra, and statue of Gregory of Smarmy may play a role.. but the passages will be big in the 7th book
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:21 PM | #
Oh yes the passages will be huge in the seventh book. I bet the Death Eater might attack HoneyDukes to take all the candy and get fat(just kidding rofl) but maybe they wanna attack the school so they will take over Hogsmeade and then discover the passage in HoneyDukes and will discover the passageway and get in. And they will also plan to torture the ids by blowing the candy up!jk rofl!
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:25 PM | #
i do. i can tell by robbie coltranes ‘sort of’ answer he gave when asked if he was signed for all seven movies
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:52 PM | #
That is true well actually he has to be signed for all seven because e survived the sixth. I think Hagrid might die. It seems like the thing he would do saving Harry or something
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:54 PM | #
ya i was gonna say he’d prbly die saving harry or something.. but hagrid has never been there when it came to fighting anything.
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:01 PM | #
(except in the last book he was there when snape and malfoy were escaping)
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:02 PM | #
That is very true. I think Hagrid wil do a lot of fighting. Hehasn’t fought at all except in the 5th and 6th books
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:04 PM | #
but guys it’s probably pretty hard for him to fight considering he was expelled over 50 previous, and only in his third year. his wand was “repaired” after being turned into woodchips. and his wand is disguised as a fricken pink umbrella. and he was banned to use magic
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:17 PM | #
i can’t do this right now my computer is really slow right now. be back tonight. i’ll have some ideas
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:22 PM | #
Same here I will be back tonight. Gotta go now.
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:58 PM | #
At first i thought R.A.B was that person (who everyone else thinks he is) too, but then that makes it so obvious now, everyone knows about it, would J.K do something that obivious, i think she might throw in a loop or something…as for snape being part of the plan, defiantly, and some facts about dumbledore not being dead too…lets hope not:-(
Posted on August 18, 2005 05:56 PM | #
kk, my idea was that trevor the toad is regulus black, he is an animangi, he is searching the castle for more horcruxes. this would explain him always getting away from neville
-also, raed my favorite theory starting at post 164-188, u don’t have to, but it think you’ll find it interesting
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:40 PM | #
Ya JK made it way to obvious for RAB to Regelus Alphard Black and JK will make things obvious and then kill that idea by doing something noone expected. And I think it is more of JK’s style to have Mundugus nick the locket.
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:58 PM | #
ya it is quite obvious who RAD would be… so either Jk underestimated the cleverness of her readers.. or she did it on purpose to surprise everyone. most likely the second reason
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:16 PM | #
Kansas i just wanted to say that there is no way that the goblet mudungus had was rowena ravenclaws because it had the mark of the black house on it.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:07 PM | #
did i ever claim that the goblet was rowena’s?
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:44 PM | #
most of these ideas are those of other people i’ve talked to—-• Immediately when Harry and Dumbledore were discussing the existence of another Horcrux, one previously owned by Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, I saw that Dumbledore had made a mistake. He pointed to the sword Harry had found in book 2, indicating that the “last remaining relic of Gryffindor’s” was safe and therefore not a Horcrux, implying that their efforts would probably be better put to use in looking for some artifact of Ravenclaw’s or some as-yet undiscovered Gryffindor treasure. What he failed to realize was that Gryffindor had in fact left behind another artifact, one which he and Harry were both quite familiar with – the Sorting Hat! It has been mentioned on various occasions that the Sorting Hat once belonged to Gryffindor, and if Dumbledore’s assumptions were correct, that Voldemort really did choose his Horcruxes based on their connection to the Hogwarts legacy, then the Sorting Hat seems the perfect choice. It is also one of the last places anyone would think to look – often the best hiding places are the ones that are not hidden. As soon as I thought of it, though, I thought that surely if it was a Horcrux, then Dumbledore would have detected it. Knowing J.K. Rowling’s style, though, I know that she thinks of everything, therefore she must have remembered that the Sorting Hat belonged to Gryffindor, making any oversight on Dumbledore’s part when pointing things out a potentially significant clue. Wow, try to count the commas in that sentence. I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling the Sorting Hat will probably play a role of some significance in the next book. Seeing as how the Sorting Hat was one of the first magical objects he encountered upon entering Hogwarts his first year, it would be fitting if that were also the last Horcrux he were to destroy in his final year (providing he even returns to Hogwarts, or that the school is open at all)
• Although the Sorting Hat may be a Horcruxe I seriously doubt it because when Dumbledore put on Guant’s ring it damaged his hand. All the kids that put the hat on would have some kind of brain damage and the characters seem fine. The hat says that Gryffindor took it off his head and the founders put brains in the hat making it able to talk and think.
• Harry Potter is Voldy’s Gryffindor Horcruxe. All this non-sense about “transference of power” and what not… Rowling has said that we get clues as to HP6 & 7 with Chamber of Secrets… what were some of the things? well, we learn Harry is a “true” Gryffindor… ok. We know that Tom Riddle even noticed how “they even look alike”… ok… the sorting hat was confused a bit in HPSS, but stood its ground in CoS…ok… and, we also know now that in order to create the Horcruxe, you have to kill someone, which breaks off your soul and then you capture it and place it somewhere. Ok…. now, what happened before Harry was attacked as a child? Voldy killed his mother. Ok. So, the spell is complete… BUT the murder was a sacrifice from love… so that’s what binded the soul to the Horcrux, in this case Harry… THIS is why he has so many similiarities to Voldy… it’s not Quirrel who couldn’t stand to be touched by Harry, but Vldy… THIS is why Harry and Voldy were at a standstill during GoF… THIS is why Voldy couldn’t possess Harry for long in OoP… THIS is why they were connected for so long… so either Harry IS the Horcruxe, or his lightning scar is (remember reference to lightning in Book 6??)… hence Dumbledore’s initial comment in HPSS “curse marks can come in handy”… Dumbley also said “as long as the Horcruxe is out there, Voldy is in essence immortal…?? if that’s the case, then the prophecy might not mean Harry has to kill Voldy… rather, Harry has to kill Voldy AND then make the ULTIMATE sacrifice, much like his mother and father did. My ultimate prediction, then, is Harry will kill Voldy and then himself. (Oh, and he will forgive Snape)
• harry potter cannot be the horcrux. one thing is that as dumbledore had said, giving a fragment of a soul that can think for itself is inadvisable. plus, would you give something that is very precious to an enemy? also voldemort used the avada kedavra. dumbledore and the fake moody did say that the spell that caused the scar is the killing curse.
• As I read the HBP I could not think that the perfect Horcrux would be the House Cup that is awarded at the end of term. It is a very significant artifact of Hogwarts.
• I doubt the house cup is a horcrux beacuse people hold it and they probably would have been cursed like with Guant’s ring.
• If Harry tried to Summon the Horcrux then nothing should’ve happened because when Bellatrix tried to Summon the Prophecy she couldn’t because it was broken. Since that wasn’t a real Horcrux then nothing should have happened.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:53 PM | #
Wait who said that the ring damaged Dumbldore’s hand?
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:19 PM | #
hmm interesting thought dumby’sman. it could have damaged it when he took it.. but that’s still a good question
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:52 PM | #
Ya I was thining more along the linesof got hurt while getting the ring. Not got hort weaing the ring…
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:11 PM | #
it never crossed my mind that he’d put the ring on. just took it, and put it in his pocket.. i think he got hurt getting it.. just who/what hurt him?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:12 PM | #
Remember Dumbledore said that LV put magical enchantments? I think that was what hurt him!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:17 PM | #
probably. but… this might not make sense.. but… hear me out.. ok, so wut if, dumbledore knew RAB, and knew they already had the locket, but had to take Harry to the cave, because the potion stuff was the Draught of the Living Dead, and that’s why he had to drink it all so it’d have it’s effect? he needed Harry to witness it, and to help him take him back so Snape could do his little fake spell… i just don’t know why Dumbledore wouldn’t tell harry that someone else was working with him..
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:23 PM | #
And yes that makes perfect sense and maybe Dumbldoe wantd Harry to know how it would be to get a Horcrux!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:28 PM | #
yes, to show him.. how to look for magic, and wut not to touch, and to use common sense (like the use of water) … like a practice test thing
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:34 PM | #
anymore thoughts on my theory in 734. ??? anyone find it interesting and making sense??
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:40 PM | #
one more thing.. that’s why dumbledore said harry could go with him! he knew it would be safe for him. dumbledore would have never put harry into any kind of real danger i don’t think
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:48 PM | #
Yes, I’m an avid Harry Potter fan and I know nearly everything about the books, but you people have no lives! You spend all day writing your far-fetched opinions instead of enjoying the story in a normal way. For God’s sake!How on earth can Mrs. Figg be Dumbledore’s sister?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:50 PM | #
you don’t know nearly everything about the books, there are many good points ppl have brought up on here.. altough yes some are very far fetched
Posted on August 18, 2005 11:02 PM | #
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Posted on August 19, 2005 01:47 AM | #
oh sorry must of been a dream kansas. Isn’t it obvious what were talking about dumbledore through and through??????????? It’s a rac for bonnie wright (ginny weasley)!
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:29 AM | #
race i meant, are u guy’s english like me cos if your not your sad to go on at 1 in the morning
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:30 AM | #
u guys dumbledore’s hand was totally useless to him if he knew he was going to “die”. i’m sure he knew what it would take to destroy the ring. there were enchantments and curses on it of course. voldy wasn’t just gonna leave it laying aroung in the gaunt house. dumbledore probably wanted to take the fastest way and intead of trying to unto curses he simply threw it on his hand. simply knowing that it would destroy it but at the same time he would have to sacrifice his own hand. i’m sure he regreted using his wand hand but he destroyed it. dumbledore knows what to do and knows what it takes to destroy a horcrux. like when he figured he had to simply drink the potion (whether it would keep him alive or not) that would be the logical and only way to get the potion out.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:35 AM | #
jay up there at post #id remember. u said that if harry and hermione were bro and sis that wouldn’t be important. of course it isn’t important. except for the fact that if voldemort ever found out about them the whole human world would be at stake. if he were to kill both of them, considering they’re his last desceandants, he would probably immediately be immortal. read the the idea explaining this at post 163 i think it is.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:50 AM | #
jack-ok sorry mister 2:30. that isn’t the time for most of us. we live in different time zones than where the website is located
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:11 AM | #
kansas, yes of course it is important now if he would know she was harry’s sister. but first of all shes harry’s best friend which means she is always in danger anyways. and second of all when voldermort was persumed dead, at that point there was no reason for who ever was holding the secret to keep it a secret. in fact when voldermort died it would be perfect for the one holding the secret to reveal so harry could be reunited with his siter. but the secret was never revealed then and that is why i dont think hermione is harry’s sister.
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:09 AM | #
I think dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him….But Snape didn’t enjoy or mean it…so its nothhing else…i mean dumby was supposed to die but snape couldn’t do it…fully
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:30 AM | #
At the end of the sixth book, they have one golden day left. The train is leaving an hour after the funeral, so, there may be something that happens on the way home, and that’s why it was left out, or you are supposed to assume nothing happens because it was leaving on the “golden day”
Peeves was never alive. He is only a spirit of chaos (said by JK Rowling). That is why only Peeves can interact with his environments, whereas the ghosts can’t.
Book seven is supposed to be a direct continuation of book six, so it may start right at Hermione, Ron, and Harry still walking along the lake, or it could be on the way home, or the next day or something.
The Bloody Baron always goes to the Astronomy tower, just so you know. I doubt he was killed by the sectemsempra, because Snape invented it, but the Baron is too old, I think.
Just because the person who plays Hagrid said “sorta” for playing in all 7 movies, doesn’t mean Hagrid dies. You have to remember, no one except JK knows what happens, therefore Hagrid won’t know either. I think Hargid has a possibility of dieing, but I think his giantess mother’s skin will protect him again in a fight and Hargid’s going to kill someone.
I think Dumby hurt his hand when destroying the ring. Snape saved his life somehow, and Dumby only lost his hand because of Snape.
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:22 AM | #
easter-cool, how ‘bout from now on u think of an idea instead of rejecting everybody else’s. it’s kind of hard to think of a good discussion maker
Posted on August 19, 2005 09:32 AM | #
hermione and harry brother and sister, who canme up with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gotta have same parents…
Posted on August 19, 2005 10:47 AM | #
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Posted on August 19, 2005 10:48 AM | #
lauren- like i said earlier. obviously mrguy was dropped on his head numerous times as a young child
Posted on August 19, 2005 11:01 AM | #
Harry is realted to Hermionie.
Posted on August 19, 2005 01:46 PM | #
i think that snape killed dumbledore with joy, snape is evil and devoted to the darkside. dumbledore is dead. harry will kill voldemort and kill himself at the same time.
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:11 PM | #
i don’t think they’re related… anyways, what does everyone think of Dumbledore knowing that the locket him and harry found wasn’t the real one, but he wanted Harry to go with him, because Dumbledore knew he would “die” and he needed to show Harry how to look for magic paths.. wut not to touch when looking for horcruxes.. etc. And the thing was the Draught of the Living Dead, and he needed harry to witness it, and also needed Harry to help him back to the school. And also HArry was surprised Dumby let him go with him to find the Horcruxe, because Dumbledore would’ve NEVER put HArry into any real danger.. (it was maybe like a practice test.. or something)
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:19 PM | #
All of that is untrue! Snape has to be good. I mean Dumbledore even says ‘to the well organized mind, death is the next great adventure’ And Dumbledore has to have the most organized mind ever! Severus… Severus…please. Dumbledore is pleading with Snape to kill him! Dumbledore isn’t afraid of death! And Harry won’t die killing Voldermort!
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:19 PM | #
ya, in ALL the books people suspect Snape for something and for being evil.. but also following those accusations, it always says.. DUMBLEDORE TRUSTS SNAPE… so obviously Snape isn’t really evil.. or he woouldn’t be part of the Order anyways
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:21 PM | #
one more thing following the post in #760, Sape hesistated when saying the avada kedavra, because he knew how powerful it was, and was afraid that wutever spell he was saying in his head might not work.. therefore he was scared he might actually kill dumbledore.
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:27 PM | #
Ya I said that…
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:37 PM | #
snape must be as good a wizard as voldemort and dumbledore too gain both of their trust. i am trully in 2 minds to which side he is on. But i know that dumbledore is dead
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:02 PM | #
Yes I agree Snape is an exceptional wizard. Snape is good! I mean you know it! Just trust us. He is good. and Dumbledore isn’t dead…
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:13 PM | #
this is going back a bit but does anyone remember in the fourth book when ppl were coming out of voldermorts wand. first came cedric then an old man then a women from the ministry(forgot her name) and then harrys parents. does anyone know who the old man was?
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:16 PM | #
Ya the guy from the dream in the beggining of the book. The gardener!
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:17 PM | #
i dont remember why he was killed. i have start reading all the books again
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:19 PM | #
i think that if snaoe is eveil he is just as good a wizard as albus and voldemort, but he’s not on either of their sides. he is a death eater (death stealer) i think that the eaters are going to follow in voldemort’s footsteps and attemp to becaome immortal like him. but snape believes there are easier and better ways to become immortal. “a potion that can even put a stopper in death.” he is not on voldemort’s side beacause he believes there are less evil ways to become immortal. once immortal he will kill voldemort and redeem himself witha ll of the glory he has always been after.-but his is only if he is evil. well is he evil if he’s plotting to kill voldy?w/e
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:19 PM | #
If Snape is evil then why will he kill Voldie? HE IS GOOD!
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:25 PM | #
Loved the book, love some of your theories. I’m not going to embelish or dream up more theories, I’m here with a question that doesn’t seem to have been asked yet and I would appreciate your views.
Chapter 21 - The Unknowable Room. Harry is in the common room looking for a way of getting the memory from Slughorn, Ron, sitting with him, is writing his essay for Snape and Hermione is complaining about the Half Blood Prince’s scribbles in Harry’s potions book. On page 442 Kreacher and Dobby Apperate to give Harry their reports on Malfoy and then Disapperate (p.425).
When was anyone allowed to apperate in the castle or grounds of Hogwarts ? I was under the impression that the Death Eaters entered the castle by way of the vanishing cupboard, because they could not Apperate. Also on page 359 Twycross, the Apperation teacher says “As you may know it is usually impossible to Apperate or Disapperate within Hogwarts. The Headmaster has lifted this enchantment, purely within the Great Hall, for one hour”. So how did they do it ?
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:02 PM | #
hey.. i totally forgot about that! therefore dumbledore could have apperated or disapperated (if he was on the tomb) when it lit on fire… so that theory wasn’t “complete crap” dumby’s man.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:15 PM | #
Well house elves are very powerful magical creatures. They can probably even though the enchantment is there…
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:18 PM | #
then so can dumbledore prbly, since he too is very powerful
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:20 PM | #
BUT Dumbledore isn’t a house elf! Unless you are saying he is…jk rofl. However powerful he maybe he can’t cuz he is a house elf…
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:44 PM | #
Remember it was Dumbledore who cast all the charms on Hogwarts in the first place ;)
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:49 PM | #
OHHHHH! So you are saing that Dumbledore might have tken off the enchantment while falling! That is a possbility…
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:11 PM | #
it might not have been while he was falling.. but he did take of the enchantment when they entered the grounds on the brooms..
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:35 PM | #
That was only the enchantment for the entrance, there are many enchantments throughout the grounds and castle, but it still doesn’t answer my question about the houseelves….or maybe they are just very magical !!
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:06 PM | #
My believe is still that Dumby is in some way still alive and and Snape is still good. The reason as to why Dumby trusts Severus is to be revealed in 7. I think the fact that Dumby is an animagus (presummeably a pheonix) will be important, and also the fact that Dumby is able to become invisble without an invisibility cloak will also be important.
Snape is a really powerful wizard (probably just as powerful as Voldemort). James and Sirius were also really powerful (James stronger of course), but Snape said that James and Sirius would only attack 4 on 1.
I’ve always thought that Dumby was a lot stronger than Voldy. Voldy fears only death, where as Dumby only seems to fear … ummm … Harry getting hurt? (I don’t really know) … I think Dumby staged the horcruxe search thing, because as someone allready said, I doubt Dumby would risk Harry’s life.
It says that the house-elves can apparate because they use a different kind of magic. House-elves use very powerful magic that wizards don’t use or something. That’s why they can apparate, and btw, so can Fawkes.
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:35 PM | #
Everything that Easter said makes perfect sense and I agree with him…
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:26 PM | #
Of course everything I said makes perfect sense, I am God… lol, i’m bored …
JK Rowling stated that in book 7 someone will become magical, who didn’t think they were before. She also stated:
“Aunt Petunia is truly a muggle, but there is “a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye.” “She is not a squib, although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet.”“
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:45 PM | #
I agree with the RAB theory…I think Dumbledore is dead …I also think that Snape is good, mcgonagall said that dumbledore had an “ironclad” reason for trusting him…if he is evil, i think that dumbledore may have made an unbreakable vow with him…i also think that the locket in the blacks house is the horcrux…harry and ginny will end up together…sirius will come back…also, the conclusion i think will involve ron and hermione using their special skills to take out traps set by voldemort so harry can get to him…JUST LIKE IN THE 1ST BOOK!!!!!!!!…tell me what u think?
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:50 PM | #
one more quick thought…how AWESOME would it be if the final battle between Harry and voldemort took place at the DURSLEY’S!!!…cuz it seems that now that is the only place where harry is safe…how hilarious if one of the dursleys somehow aided harry in killing voldemort…
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:57 PM | #
what did dumbledore see when he drank the potion?
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:24 PM | #
liza- right after dumby’s man said that was complete crap i already said that you could easily be right. take a look
-also i think i’m done with this post, it’s turning into a debate where nobody agrees with anybody, dumby’s man having mood swings, and peple thinking they’re god! stupid! i’ll aid my info at another post. peace out. oh ya and dumby’s man, if snape was evil he would kill voldie because he may be a stronger wizard, he wants been reknowned for wanting ALL the glory. y not kill the world’s most powerful wizard. voldemort does magic that dumbledore would never be able to do. this doesn’t mean voldy is more powerful. this means dumby is too noble to use such powerful and mostly dark magic…CYA
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:26 PM | #
hmm.. i dunno if there will be a brawl at the dursleys between harry and voldy, but something might happen there, because it was made very clear that harry go back to the dursley’s house (that’s wut dumby wanted him to do..)so maybe dumby (if not dead) will show up at the dursley’s
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:28 PM | #
IF ANYONE NEW WANTS AN INTERESTING READ, TRY POSTS 163-188. I’M OUT.
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:28 PM | #
what are you all going on about? i mean seriously, its like you spend the whole day on this post, talking about a FICTION CHARACTER. kansas has got the right idea. i mean, its alright to have a chat about what you think might happen, but there are 800 posts on here. you have so overdone it. shame
Posted on August 20, 2005 05:23 AM | #
What did James do to save Snape…also, in book 3 when lupin transforms into a werewolf outside of the whomping willow, snape immediately tries to protect harry, ron, and hermione…if he were evil, couldn’t he just let them die and say “there was nothing I could do”?…just a thought…also, Hermione is harry’s bro
Posted on August 20, 2005 08:16 AM | #
What did james save snape from to make him indebted to him?…also, in PoA, when lupin changes to a werewolf outside of the whomping willow, snape immediately seeks to protect ron, harry, and hermione (you can see what i mean in the movie)…if he were evil, couldn’t he just let them be killed and say to people that he tried but there was nothing he could do?
Posted on August 20, 2005 08:18 AM | #
your looking at it from dumbledores point of view, form voldemorts, he was also sure that snape is on his side. i think snape did not know who’s side he was on but had to kill dumbledore or he would get killed himself
Posted on August 20, 2005 08:24 AM | #
i think that dumbledore is dead because it keeps sayin that people cannot returne from the dead. Dumbledore also sed that he could make mistakes.
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:24 AM | #
at the end when they retrieved the fake horcrux dumbledore said
“i am not scared, because i am with you harry”.
could this mean that harry is an exceptional wizard, or something else
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:26 AM | #
I agree that people here a little crazy with posting. I’ve seen about 50 posts just saying “brb” or useless one liners.
I thought of something else. I believe there is supposed to be more people dieing in book 7. So, maybe someone like Regulus (if he is alive) will die. If not him, maybe Ron (I think Ron’s an idiot and should die for being so stupid about Hermione).
And to whomever said that Harry will fight Voldy at the Dursley’s, and someone will help him, that could be true, because as I stated above, there is something about Petunia which hasn’t been revealed yet.
I think some of you will find this site interesting: http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:58 AM | #
I think Harry has hidden powers which Dumbledore realises, but Harry doesn’t believe he has. Dumbledore continuously states that love is very powerful, but Harry is too blind to see …
I believe James just told Snape not to go into the tunnel under the womping willow, therefore preventing him from being mauled (sp?) by Lupin. Snape was, I believe, truly sorry about what happened, because James did once save Snape’s life, and, as some people believe, Snape may have liked Lily.
Posted on August 20, 2005 10:03 AM | #
Ya you are right Easter.
Posted on August 20, 2005 12:08 PM | #
freE: This is the only messsage board that you can post on without registering. There are many other boards such as SnitchSeeker.com but you have to register to post…
Posted on August 20, 2005 02:33 PM | #
I agree that Snape is actually good and that Dumbledore is a phoenix animagus. Nobody is bringing up something important from the the third book. When Harry was talking to Dumbledore, Dumbledore says something like “I’m very much mistaken if Lord Voldemort wants someone in his service with a life debt to Harry Potter” about Harry saving Wormtail’s life. This HAS to come up in the 7th book. I also think a Weasley will die, since the people Harry cares about always die and something important will happen at the Dursley’s, since Dumbledore really wanted Harry to return there this last summer. I think Regulus is still alive too. By the way, is there any textual proof that Dumbledore is an animagus?
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:06 PM | #
Fawkes, There is no textual proof that Dumbedore is an Animagi, but there is a good binch of evidence that he is. Such as the Phoenix rising out of the flames…
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:30 PM | #
What does everyone think happened to SLytherin’s locket, if it really was found in Sirius’s house in the 5th book? I’m betting either Kreacher stole it or more likely Mundungus stole it and then sold it, so Harry will have trouble tracking it. I bet that Neville, obviously Snape and maybe Dedalus Diggle (keeps coming up) or Tonks will have big roles in the coming book.
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:38 PM | #
Oh yeah, I also think Luna will have a big role- although I dont think it will be directly with a Horcrux. I think the undecided Horcrux will be found by Harry’s parents place in Godric’s (Gryffindor) Hollow.
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:41 PM | #
Ya That make a lot of sense. Except I think JK just threw Luna iut there because she wanted to lead us teh wrong. Though I could be completely mistaken…
Posted on August 20, 2005 05:08 PM | #
There is proof Dumbledore is an animagus. I’ve posted about 5 links now … I’ll post it again …
“He is a registered animagus, though his animagus form is unknown.”
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Albus+Dumbledore&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=Albus%20Dumbledore
(under known skills [half way down])
Posted on August 20, 2005 06:11 PM | #
Ya that is pretty sensible.
Posted on August 20, 2005 06:29 PM | #
Might I add, Dumbledore was the transfigueration (sp?) teacher, so I’m pretty sure he would be good at transfiguering (sp?) himself.
Posted on August 20, 2005 07:47 PM | #
firstly wonderfiul topics - couple of points…
Surley the horcruxe found at the end has no connection to the one found at grimmuld place owing to the fact that wasnt it supposed to be the locket of slytherin? they would have noticed slytherins mark on the locket whilst attempting to open it!
i do not wish to believe that dumbledore or sirus are dead and gone i must say i like the idea that wit was staged (dumbledore and snape) for the good of malfoy -god knows why!-, but i think the theory that dumbledore is animagus, a poenix combining with harry seeing one fly from the flames at the funeral is wonderful and i hope it is correct!!
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:00 AM | #
firstly wonderfiul topics - couple of points…
Surley the horcruxe found at the end has no connection to the one found at grimmuld place owing to the fact that wasnt it supposed to be the locket of slytherin? they would have noticed slytherins mark on the locket whilst attempting to open it!
i do not wish to believe that dumbledore or sirus are dead and gone i must say i like the idea that wit was staged (dumbledore and snape) for the good of malfoy -god knows why!-, but i think the theory that dumbledore is animagus, a poenix combining with harry seeing one fly from the flames at the funeral is wonderful and i hope it is correct!!
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:00 AM | #
oh and another thing- if the locket found in the cave was not the true horcruxe why when harry attempted to summon it did the defences come into play - surley the locket could not have responded as harry would have had to say ‘accio locket’.
……or were the defences made to respond the the specific words ‘accio horcruxe’ or words to that effect?
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:15 AM | #
I think they were made to defend against the words … JK Rowling stated that one horcruxe is kind of obvious for close readers, that’s why a lot of people the the locket in Black’s house was it. The probably didn’t notice the mark because they may not have noticed.
Posted on August 21, 2005 05:39 AM | #
i think there is a real locket in the cave, and voldemort put that fake one there for people to take it as its fake. rab is just made up.
Posted on August 21, 2005 06:44 AM | #
I think the real locket was in the Black’s house. JKR has a habit of slipping things in but not clearing them up till later. No one was looking for SLytherin’s marking at Sirius’s house and it would have been much too obvious if JKR had pointed it out then.
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:55 AM | #
Agreed with Fawkes.
Dumbledore’s brother is the bar tender at the Hog’s Head, so perhaps he could be more important in 7, because Dumble’s cousin (Rosmerta) was used in 6.
JK Rowling stated that there is a member of the Order of Phoenix who we know, but has not yet been “properly” introduced, who will be important. So, this could be Dedalus Diggle (part of the advanced guard in OoTP), Sturgis Podmore (lived through the first war, was attacked by death eaters in OoTP and was discovered in the Ministry of Magic and sent to Azkaban for trespassing), or perhaps even Aberforth Dumbledore (brother of Albus, bar tender of Hog’s Head)
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:17 AM | #
In interviews with Rowling, she implies Harry is not related to Godric Gryffindor; however this has never been confirmed. It could be that Harry is related, just JK doesn’t want to say, or simply Harry isn’t related. I think there will be somethingg important happening in Godric’s Hollow. Remember, Godric’s Hollow is a town, not a house. So perhaps, it could happen other than were Harry lived for a year and two months of his life, in his parents home.
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:37 AM | #
I think that Aberforth will play a role too. JKR id not properly say the Hog’s Head barman was him (although it basically a fact now) and so it will probably come up as important later, or why would she sneak him in. Is Rosemerta really Dumby’s cousin?
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:55 AM | #
i think neville and luna will play a big part in book 7. harry and ginny will get back together and a member of the order of the phoenix will have a greater role, so will fred and george. godrics hollow and godric griffindor are just a coincidence; its far too obvious and J.K is tricking us.
Posted on August 21, 2005 09:47 AM | #
Rosemerta sn’t really Dumbledore’s cousin. Plus I think JK might have discreetly put the Aberforth thing to throw us of the track. I think the goat smelling thing was a coincidence. I mean so what if it smells like goats and Aberforth did something to goats? I mean JK will just slip some obscure clues in there to throw us of track. She also could have done that without thinking. Just to describe how bad the bar was…
Posted on August 21, 2005 09:53 AM | #
JK Rowling stated that Aberforth was the bar tender of the Hog’s Head. It is a confirmed fact. And I believe in the sixth book it says Rosmerta is Albus’s cousin.
… Nevermind, after looking it up, it doesn’t say Rosmerta is Albus’s cousin. I misread “custum” as “cousin” … Don’t ask how I misread it, like 3 times.
Posted on August 21, 2005 12:20 PM | #
I Think That maybe the Black tapestry in 12 Grimmauld Place is a horcrux! It seems too farfetched but in book five in chapter six Kreacher is very protective of the tapestry! And people who do not support Voldemort are burnt out! So Please respond and tell me what you think!
Posted on August 21, 2005 12:24 PM | #
Maybe that is true. BUT I don’t think that the black Family would tell Kreacher…
Posted on August 21, 2005 12:53 PM | #
I don’t think that’s true, because Voldy had no affiliation with the Black’s (other than Regulus). I believe Voldy only used 1 of slytherin’s things, which is the locket.
I just read a post some few hundred posts before this, saying that people are speculating whether Slytherin has anymore descendants. No, he doesn’t. Voldy is his last descendant. Tom Riddle Sr. didn’t have any kids other than Voldy, btw.
Posted on August 21, 2005 01:38 PM | #
You don’t know that. I mean it also says that Tom Riddle Senior like the other lady in the memory. So after he left Merope he could have married the other lady and had a kid…
Posted on August 21, 2005 02:00 PM | #
i the message in the fake locket RAB refers to voldemort as the dark lord. Only death eaters refer voldemort as the dark lord (obviously whoever is destroying lockets is not a death eater). This could be Regulus Alphard Black (RAB) but is still in the habit of saying Dark Lord.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:17 PM | #
he is so totally true.radical. He is not lame. He is right.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:18 PM | #
im just glad next book is going to be all action. no quidditch. in every book i find the middle predictable and boring. hopefully the whole book will be like the endings of all the books. after harry has alot of ppl to kill. though bellitrix will be killed by neville.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:24 PM | #
I think RAB is Regelus Alphard Black. Why I think this is:
Usually JK will do somthing that we won’t expect her to do. BUT I think now she will count on our suspicions so she will think we will think we will think that it istn’t RAB so she will make it RAB.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:32 PM | #
the thing with r.e.b. is that harry knows him and hermione looked for the name but they couldnt even guess black. i find that wierd
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:35 PM | #
This sounds a little bit far fetched but what if The Black Tapestry is a horcrux? I mean In Chapter six of book five Kreacher is very very protective of it! I Also think that Rab might be Amycus , Maybe he didn’t like the name regulus and went by his middle name Amycus instead. It seemed that Dumbledore knew him. And he might of be just playing along, to make him look good. I don’t know, Just write back and tell me what you think!
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:33 PM | #
I don’t think that the tapestry is a horcrux. The Black house does not have anything significant for Voldemort and he did not kill anyone there, so why would he put a Horcrux there- especially because he if Half-Blood, so would not be on the tapestry himself! Dumbledore would have tried to get it down too if he had a suspicion that it was a Horcrux.
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:46 PM | #
I believe JK said that Tom Riddle Sr. had no other kids. I’ll look it up, but last time it took me about 2 hours to find.
I still say the tapestry isn’t a horcruxe, but it could be, you never know. I’m not sure what happened to Regulus. Dumbledore may have made it so he looked dead, because he said to Draco that Voldy couldn’t kill Draco if he was “already dead” (US Edition only). But, for all we know Regulus may be simply dead.
JK said the miror that Sirius gave Harry will be used (I believe) … okay, going to look for more facts now.
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:49 PM | #
Yeah, JKR said that Tom killed his dad and grandparents to wipe out the Riddle line completely. Those connecting mirrors will definitely be used- as they never came up in the 5th book but something that important (very magical and related with James) will definitely come up again. Or so I think. I think Harry didn’t think of Black because Sirius told him Regulus was killed as a Death Eater, and would not think a Death Eater would do something like that (he apparently never noticed that it was signed to the Dark Lord-Death Eater term)
Posted on August 21, 2005 05:03 PM | #
Well JKR is very elusive so I don’t believe everything she says.
Posted on August 21, 2005 06:46 PM | #
You will think I am the Master after you read this blog! ;-)
Read chapter one again, and then again, and note how passively that Snape answers questions. He does NOT know what the ladies are talking about, but instead he makes open-ended statements that LEAD the woman to telling him that Malfoy is going to kill someone, or else Malfoy DIES. Snape tells all this to dUMMBELDORE, that’s what they were yelling about in the forest,,,but THEY THINK it means kill POTTER! Read chapter one again and you will see that they nEVER talk about who Malfoy is going to kill? They never say Dumbledore! But Snape and dUMBLEDORE THINK IT MEANS POTTER!
When Snape has Dumbledore cornered, and the Death Eaters are watching, they are both shocked and stunned that the deal is that Dumbledore needs to die. Snape thought that he was protecting POTTER from Dumbeldore, and snape was going to die for Potter, but instead he has to kill the leader of the rebellion, Dumbledore,,,,and he takes partricualr offence at Potter calling him coward. He was going to DIE for Potter….also note that with Dumbledore dead, which is a big surprise to snape, and potter, and dumbledore.,,,any PLAN that they had is out the window. Dumbledore and Snape thought that Malfoy was afcter Potter, and they would intercept the attempted murder. In reality, The assassinatiaon target was Dumbledore, and now Snape is all alone as the spy in the Dark Lord’s Tower. feel free to email and discusss! anyone on tonite?
Posted on August 21, 2005 06:48 PM | #
Wow! No offense Charlie but that is the most far-fetched pointless ideaI have ever heard. I mean Dumbledore would have his wayd of really knowing waht it was. And if Snape really didn’t know the plan he was using Occlumency when he walks to the window. SO he does know the plan. And I think him and Dumbledore can telepathically commnicate(I know this is pretty crazy) so he told Dumbledore that and he also told Dumbledore she was gonna ask him to make the Unbreakable Vow and Dumbledore told him to make the Vow..
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:05 PM | #
Charles, everything you said was already discussed a million times in these posts, but people more or less agreed that it was more likely Snape used Legilimens (not Occlumency, Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh, close enough though). I believe most people also agreed that Dumbledore was trying to get Harry to get Snape, so that Snape could perform the “killing curse” on Dumbledore to get further into Voldemort’s mind. Btw, that was chapter 2, not 1 (1 was “the other minister”). People are more arguing about when Snape really did do the “killing curse” and not something else.
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:39 PM | #
okay im too lazy too catch up on every thing i’ve missed so, someone just please bive me a quick summary of what the new ideas are? please. i have some new ones too
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:52 PM | #
Ok I do have a responce for something I read here somebody said that Hermione was Harry’s brother but I don’t think a Muggle Family would take a wizard in even though most families are not like the Dursleys. But the more I think about it it could be just another big Surprise J.K. Pops on us! And whats up with Bill and Fleur? Do you really think they will be married? Will fleur turn out to be good? Or Bad? Write Back your responce!
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:33 PM | #
Andromeda Black (mother of tonks.) Snapes with Voldermort. Snapes last connection with the order would have been Harry. He would have had to tell Harry that he was still in the order and this was planned when they were alone in the end or else whos snape going to pass info on Voldermort to. or will he just fight a one man battle against Voldermort from the inside. Na. Regulus Black does sound good just havent heard anyone mention andromeda.
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:41 PM | #
Even if Dumbledore is dead i think It might be a good thing beacuse Harry has to get the Horcruxes by himself! Rowling is very deep in her writing Harry Potter is all about being taught and teaching other people! It’s a good thind dumby died
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:48 PM | #
Brian: Well I am not sure I mean the theories here are pretty convincing when you read all of them. Fleur is a spy for somebody.
Posted on August 21, 2005 09:33 PM | #
i think something weird will happen at or because of the wedding
Posted on August 22, 2005 04:51 AM | #
Alan: Snape would not have told Harry this because he was in the middle of all the Death Eaters and one could have used Occlumency on Harry if they thought Snape was beign suspicious, and then they still wouldn’t trust Snape, which was what all this was for. BTW, I brought up before but no one talked about- at the end of the third book Dumbledore tells Harry that Wormtail has a life debt to him because he saved Wormtail’s life. That is probably going to play a really big role in the 7th book, since, as Dumby said, Voldemort won’t want someone in his service with a life debt to Harry Potter.
Posted on August 22, 2005 07:49 AM | #
dumbledore said to harry
“if you save someones life, they always return it
Posted on August 22, 2005 08:55 AM | #
Ya I think Wormtails debt to Harry will play a REALLY big role in the seventh book. I think like five different people will die to save Harry. Dumbedore already ‘supposedly’ died. Then Lupin will be killed by Wormtail when he(Wormtail) will try to kill Harry. Then Pettigrew will remember his life debt to Harry and then he will die once when Voldermort tries to kill Harry the first time. When Wormtail defends Harry Voldermort is suprised he will stare at Wormtail’s dead body and then Harry will attack him and he will flee. Then I think Fleur is a spy for Voldermort and Bill will die at the Wedding to save Harry from Fleur. But somebody at the wedding (maybe Mr.Wesly) will capture OR kill Fleur. I don’t think kill because it is illegal. And lastly I think that Hagrid will die in the last battle when he saves Harry from nowhere, Voldermort is so surprised he’ll just stand there and then Harry will kill him. Although I think these are people close to Harry I think this is true. I mean I don’t think that JKR would kill any of the trio.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:21 AM | #
Did Anyone See the Missing link in book Five? I Don’t know if you would actually call it that but Sirius is talking to Harry and he talksabout his Grandparents but he never mentions their names? I would of thought this would have been known by now. Did Sirius Not want to Tell Harry Who his Grandparents were or something ? It just seems suspicious! Respond!
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:23 AM | #
I don’t think JKR is going to kill the trio either (or Ginny). Hagrid has a possibility of dieing, but I don’t think Lupin will die.
According to JKR, Dumbledore’s “gleam of triumph” (in book 4) will be important to the plot of Book 7. I re-read book 4, and Dumbledore’s “gleam of triumph” happens when Harry tells Dumbledore that Voldemort used Harry’s blood so he can touch Harry now. “Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph”
I’m currently re-reading book 5. It is really obvious that Umbridge sent the Dementors after Harry, when they’re in the hearing room, when Dumbledore suggests the Dementors were sent by someone, Umbridge twitched and stuff, and before then she didn’t even move. Going through the book though, and I am looking for things which may be important to book 7. The locket which can’t be opened is the only sign so far.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:29 AM | #
Harry’s grandparents died of wizarding illness. (According to JKR). I looked that up too.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:31 AM | #
I don’t remeber Sirius talking about his grandparents but maybe I skipped it. BUT he also didn’t talk about his parents’s names… So maybe.
Posted on August 22, 2005 10:22 AM | #
what if dumbeldore has an horcrux and he really did not die and he left with fawkes and was not dead but weaked.
Posted on August 22, 2005 03:22 PM | #
Godric Griffindor an Godric’s Hollow Have got to be a coiciedence! JkR Would not be so blunt in that Way! Where do You Think The Horcruxes are? What Do You Think About Slughorn?
Posted on August 22, 2005 03:55 PM | #
The Godric thng isn’t a coincidence. JK has to make sime thing obvious.
Posted on August 22, 2005 04:29 PM | #
Hi everybody!
Don’t you think the reason Harry has given his friends for Dumbledore trusting Snape very weak? If he trusted Snape so much, it should be for a very strong reason. What do you think?
Posted on August 22, 2005 05:53 PM | #
Yes, It should But Dumbledore seems to Want to make friends more than enemies he’s a real softie!
Posted on August 22, 2005 05:59 PM | #
This is going to sound very wierd, but what if Harry has it totally wrong what if dumbledore and the rest of the wizarding community are snowing him and Voldemort is good and they don’t want Harry to learn that beacuse he would join them instead of Dumbledore? What if Dumbledore Really killed harry’s Parents. Also Could it be possible that Dumbledore is Lord Voldemort?
Posted on August 22, 2005 06:03 PM | #
Umm, that wouldn’t make sense at all. Dumby can’t be Voldy, they are seen together.
Gogric’s Hollow is NO coincidense. It is Grodric (Gryfindor)’s Hollow, to be more exact. I read that somewhere, in an interview with JKR.
The reason why Dumbledore trusts Snape is not really known to the readers. It is supposed to be explained in book 7, along with a million other unanswered questions. The reason why Dumbledore trusts Snape, I believe, is a reason so strong that anyone would trust Snape. I don’t think Snape meant for the Potters to be killed. I think Dumbledore knew so, because I think Snape may have liked someone. I think, JKR said that someone may have liked or been liked by Snape, but it was never said who. We are also supposed to get a reason as to why Snape was never in a relationship with anyone.
Posted on August 22, 2005 07:41 PM | #
couldnt dumbledore have made a horcruxe to help harry battle voldemort. even though he disagreed with Vold. he still might be willing to do anything to destroy voldemort
Posted on August 22, 2005 08:12 PM | #
in every single book hermione is always telling people that people cannot apparate inside hogwarts grounds. maybe someone will learn how to cast that spell around people so they can’t apparate anywhere. that would be tight.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:23 PM | #
what in the world does that have to do with anything an this page?
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:25 PM | #
Who thinks that we should writhe our own seventh book? I mean we can just have ideas and then we can together make the book.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:52 PM | #
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,kansas u anger me! I bet your type of guy who goes for xbox 360 instead of playstation 3. ANd the type of guy who hates goblet of fire but loves order of the phonex
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:55 AM | #
kansas you idiot! Lupin didn’t let harry fight the boggart because the moon shone! For u crazy americans they had to make itclearer why he stopped Harry. It zooms in on the moon and lupin pegs it. He doesn’t stop harry straight away. I bet kansas is american….
If he didn’t stop him the moon would of shone on him and bam the little kiddies would run, like mice. ahhhh kansas how u gest. I bet my life harry and hermione aren’t brothers, your clues mean nothing. The reason the teachers never really mention ron is because they know voldermort is at large and they take more notice of harry. Kansas kansas kansas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on August 23, 2005 06:01 AM | #
Kansas, yeah, kansas. the legendary kansas. The one who always gets things wrong…
Posted on August 23, 2005 06:03 AM | #
Dumbledore won’t kill people. He could have killed Voldemort on countless occasions, but he always chooses not to.
The anti-apparation jinx has already benen used, in the OoTP, by Dumbledore on the captured Death Eaters.
In the 3rd movie, Harry is going to fight the Boggart, and it turns into a Dementor, so Lupin steps in the way, causing the Dementor to turn to a moon. A Dementor’s full moon, I believe, can’t make Lupin transform. In the book, Lupin didn’t let Harry go near the Boggart, because he knew it was going to be a Dementor. Lupin made it change to a “silvery-white orb hanging in the air” …“‘I assumed that if the Boggart faced you, it would assume the shape of Lord Voldemort.’” (Lupin said that). My point is, Harry never had a chance to fight the Boggart, and it was Lupin who caused it to turn into a moon.
And btw, the Xbox 360 is better than the PS3, in like 18 of 20 categories
Posted on August 23, 2005 07:13 AM | #
Well who thinks that we should write our own seventh book? I mean from reading all these posts it sounds like we are all good authors! And XBOX 360 is better than PS3
Posted on August 23, 2005 08:36 AM | #
i dont think RAB is wot everyone is sayin!! as we all know JK likes to keep us guessin and this is way too obvious and can be seen insultin to her great skills. i av no idea who it cud be but we will find out! an dis will lead harry into findin the rest of the horocrux. coz currntly e as no clue wot so eva on how to lead this expidition!!
Posted on August 23, 2005 10:36 AM | #
Heroic: By now JK would have learnt to count on our suspicions. I mean she would make it obvious that RAB was Regelus Alphard Black. Then she would count on us to think that it was way to obvious that it was Regelus Black. so what she will eventually do is make it Regelus Black. So we because we thought it was way to obvious and thought it would have been someone else we would be surprised!
Posted on August 23, 2005 10:43 AM | #
ok we shnouldn’t write our own book because the one rowling will release will just turn out so much better or have a better twist. Ohand also have u seen the xbox 360, i wouldn’t that ugly thing in my house. Also ps3 is two times powerful than the xbox 360:) Dumbledore would agree with me
Posted on August 23, 2005 11:17 AM | #
what i think about REB is that maybe rowling knew we would think regulus black was obvious so it really is not black. but than again maybe she knew we would know that she knew this and would therefore make REB regulus black to surprise us. but if she knew that we knew that she knew that we knew that she would make REB noone other than regulus black than she would specifically make REB someone other than regulus black. but shes samrt enough to know that we know that she knows that we know that she knows that we know that she knows this, and will therefore make REB black. but since i know this than she knows i know and therefore knows that we know that she knows that…………where am i….i dont know where i am or i how i got here. what was i talking about i dont know.
Posted on August 23, 2005 11:21 AM | #
Why don’t we hear anything from dumbledore in the portrait? I don’t remember him being mentioned standing there. Maybe he was sitting tee hee. I think that all the info being jammed in at the end is trying to make room for the other book. Though why couldn’t she just do a length size like the order of the phoneix. Was it because there was already a release date.
The only thing i didn’t like about the 5th book was all the writing at grimmauld place. I just wanted harry to get back to school. Sometimes the house elves annoy me… almoat as muchs KANSAS. P.s Watch killzone 2 trailer it makes xbox 360 look like a kitten that’s done it’s first poo.
Also halo is rubbish because the guns aren’t effective enough and the shield makes it easy even on legendary. Even dobby could play it. The guns are rubbish. On killzone eachgun has like 3 different things on it. Sweaty halo.
I hope the last book is like 1000pages. What do you think will happen after all the books are done?
Posted on August 23, 2005 11:26 AM | #
I don’t think it will be good if there is no hogwarts in the 7th book because harry is of destroying horcruxes. It just wouldn’t have the same magic. I hate things where ahero goes of to kill someone and his mates come along. Then suddenly a door closes on his mates and he is left alone to fight the enemy. I had a feeling that would happen in the 5th book at the ministry.
Posted on August 23, 2005 11:29 AM | #
I think the potion that Dumbledore drank was the Draught Of Living Death Potion made from powdered root of asphodel and an infusion of wormwood which would make it appear as if Dumbledore was dead.
Posted on August 23, 2005 02:41 PM | #
The gleam of triumph in Dumbledore’s eyes came when he found out that Harry’s blood was used to bring Voldemort back to life. Now, it is Harry’s own blood coursing through the veins of Voldemort which makes it impossible for Voldemort to kill Harry. After Harry destroys the sixth horcrux, the 7th and final horcrux will be destroyed and Voldemort killed when he tries to kill Harry and the spell backfires.
Posted on August 23, 2005 02:52 PM | #
Jack you are talkig about irrelavent things with the XBOX 360 and PS3 So just stop. Yes I think that now that Harry’s blood is in Voldermort’s veins, he can touch him BUT can’t kill him. And Harry is NOT a horcrux because you have to use a spell. And you can’t accidentally use a spell.
Posted on August 23, 2005 03:47 PM | #
Legend, I don’t see why having Harry’s blood would defend Harry
BTW, XBOX 360 IS BETTER THAN THE PS3, and on the contrary to what someone said, that XBOX 360 is actually 2x more powerful than the PS3
Posted on August 23, 2005 03:48 PM | #
Ok Good to Hear All These Opinions I love to think and all of you have got me thinking! I Believe that Harry Will Go Back to Hogwarts Only to Look For A Horcrux! I also Believe that Snape Said Avada Kedavra But Was saying a Non Verbal in his head and that was the spell That actually took Affect! Yes Dumbledore’s Man Through and through i have written one version of the 7th Book which turned out to be only Fourteen Chapters , and am in the middle of a second Which will be much Longer than that! This Is so Much Fun! I have Been in Band Camp The last 2 weeks and Have my Director even rethinking the book! You Guys Are Really Awesome!
Posted on August 23, 2005 03:50 PM | #
Well Brian if you are wrting a story we should write it together. Since I am interested and you already have started we should write it together.
Posted on August 23, 2005 04:41 PM | #
Harry… last horcrux? Do not forget that nagini (the snake) in fact may be a horcrux… a crude one at that. Since the snake has some bit of will, being able to stabilize the horcrux within would be hard to say the least. But a horcrux inside a wizard such as harry with the power to love above all else, and voldemort’s soul would surely die. The only possible way harry could be a horcrux is if the hatred he carries for voldemort fuels voldemorts soul. In that case, harry would have to forgive voldemort for what he has done in order to destroy the horcrux without destroying himself. Although the last idea is quite farfetched, I would not supplant rowling to let harry pull a dumbledore and forgive those most evil (snape) their trespasses.
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:12 PM | #
Also, forgot to comment… RAB MUST be Regulus. Remember, Sirius did not ‘die.’ He merely moved to the other side through the veil. The killing curse was not used, instead, a stunning spell was which knocked him through the veil. He will be back with Regulus’s knowledge to boot.
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:20 PM | #
Alright Dumbledore’s Man Through And Through I Enjoy the Idea! How can I Email You Without letting Everyone else know my Email Address? You seem really Cool!
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:27 PM | #
I’d just like to state that Harry being a horcruxe would be a dumb idea. It would be like, Harry kills himself, but still manages to kill Voldy after he died. It has to be Nagini, considering how much control Voldy has over her.
I think there will be more than just Harry searching for a horcruxe at school. There is, of course, a new DADA teacher, and the new one can’t be unimportant since all the other ones played an important role to the plot.
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:36 PM | #
i never thought harry being a horcrux could be a possibility. but with the whole thing jeremy said about harry forgiving voldermort fits right up rowlings alley. its an interesting idea. improbable. but interesting.
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:43 PM | #
Brian: email me at sreevik@yahoo.com And every body else please don’t send spam and crap to it!
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:48 PM | #
I also think A lot of the Book Will Take Place over the summer! I Don’t think There will be any lessons at Hogwarts! There might Be a new character I.E. Regulus Alphard Black! I also think That maybe Neville Is the Horcrux! Tell Me what you Think!
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:48 PM | #
I agree wit Brian. I think that it will start with the ‘Golden day of Peace with Ron and Hermionie’ and then it will go all the way into next summer. Harry will have graduated from Hogwarts. And then Harry will vanquish the greatest evil in the galaxy, Voldermort, and then there will be a ten years later. Harry will be the greatest auror ever, married to Ginny and they will have a couple of kids. albus(for Dumbldedore) and some girl. Ron will be the greatest ever Minister of Magic because he peacefully opened relations to the Muggles, and he’ll be married to Hermionie. They will have a couple of kids. Oh yeah. Harry is also Ron’s advisor or somehting like that.
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:55 PM | #
Brian when will you email me?
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:56 PM | #
Thanks Dumbledore’s Man through and Through!
Posted on August 23, 2005 05:58 PM | #
Well I’m Collaberating With DmTAT To Write Harry Potter 7!
Posted on August 23, 2005 06:07 PM | #
Ok I got you email and I am replying right now.
Posted on August 23, 2005 06:10 PM | #
I finished re-reading book 5. Something important will come out of page 718 (UK Edition). Dumbledore uses a very powerful spell, which Harry can feel even though he is far away and being protected by a statue. And Voldemort’s shield I think will be important too. I MAY post the exact quote tomorrow, but right now I am a little busy with book 6. The only thing I’ve noticed so far, is that Snape hesitates on the last part of the Unbreakable Vow.
Posted on August 23, 2005 08:02 PM | #
Ok, I think our book is going to go well!
Posted on August 23, 2005 09:21 PM | #
2xpowerful ps3….
Moving on the to the topic at hand. I think reading this page is going to make me less surprised if there is a twist in the other book. What was that potion making dumbledore look so weak. Couldn’t voldy just use a potion that would kill anyone when they drank it. Or does that mean if voldy wanted to look at the horcrux he would die.
So how you going to get the 7th book out?
Posted on August 24, 2005 03:12 AM | #
never… guys you’ve got to end the book on a very good ending. Not one that wil make people go, state that was a rubbish ending for the last book. Has anyone ever read the book and they turn the page, but they glance over to the next page and read something that spoils the tension?
Posted on August 24, 2005 03:16 AM | #
it’s strange how your not really bothered with the price of book because it’s just something every house needs. I might buy a boxset version if they ever released one. Just before the 7th book is released i’m going to read the 6th one again to keep my mind freshed. It may be another two years for the book to come out. TEE HEE
Posted on August 24, 2005 03:18 AM | #
Hey you say the last chapter of the book has been written, but why are people like Kansas saying the whole book has been written! I’ll tell you why because kansas comes from venus.
If the whole book had been written kansas then she wouldn’t be releasing it two years later.
Posted on August 24, 2005 03:23 AM | #
harry is not a horcrux.dumbledore is dead. As for snape, i am not sure whether he is innocent or guilty. Harry will destroy all the horcruxes, coming close to death on each encounter, and will have a duel wih the DARK LORD. i am not sure what will happen, though i think the DARK LORD miht send a killing curse at harry, but because the DARK LORD has harry blood inside him so the curse will rebound and kill the DARK LORD. There will be a long explanation clearing all the mysteries up. As for R.A.B. It would make sense for it to be Regulus Alphard Black, But J.K has a habit of making it seem one thing and then it being another. Godrics Hollow and Godric Griffindor are a coincidence; that is far too obvious; they even have the same name.
Yours sincerely
Joe.W.B
Posted on August 24, 2005 12:18 PM | #
First, wtf, get a life …
Okay, I thought of something, a little farfatched, but w/e. In the chapter “Silver and Opals” (or something like that), Aberforth Dumbledore (Albus’s brother, owner of the Hog’s Head) was buying something from Mundungus Fletcher, who had taken things from Black’s (now Harry’s) house. What if Albus knew Regulus Black took the horcruxe and Albus already looked around the old Black house, but couldn’t find it, so he got his brother, Aberforth, to try to buy it off Mundungus in he had stolen it. (This theory only works if a) You believe RAB is Regulus, b) You believe Regulus is alive, c) You believe Albus knows Regulus is alive and took the horcruxe)
Posted on August 24, 2005 12:23 PM | #
Godric’s Hollow is supposed to be where Godric Gryffindor lived, otherwise, why would she make them have the same name, it’s not like it’s a common name
Posted on August 24, 2005 12:30 PM | #
there is someone called Ali Bashir in the chapter
“Bagman and Crouch” in the 4th book. Could he be R.A.B. It seemed unnecessary to bring him up.
Posted on August 24, 2005 01:00 PM | #
Problem is Ali Bashir doesn’t have the “R”, unless the first name isn’t mentioned. I say Regulus is still alive because Dumbledore made him look dead.
Posted on August 24, 2005 01:37 PM | #
Well I Was sitting at lunch today and i Had a Brain bloom, now it may be quite Farfetched but what is Crookshanks was Rab? It seems possible Crookshanks has always seemed a little Different and Weird! tell me What you Think!
Posted on August 24, 2005 04:03 PM | #
In an interview, someone asked JK Rowling whether Crookshanks is an animagus, but she said Crookshanks isn’t. She is not pure cat either. She is a mix of a ginger-cat and something else, which it says in one of her mini-books “The Magical Creatures and Where to Find them Book” I think.
Posted on August 24, 2005 04:23 PM | #
Well you never know what J.K. Rowling Is Trying to pull on you! Crookshanks could still be an animagus! I Believe it to Be True!
Posted on August 24, 2005 04:29 PM | #
Okay. I look around for interviews with JKR to see what is/isn’t true. Most people ignore me when I state that JKR said otherwise, but at least you paid attention and also gave a little reason to why to believe otherwise.
Posted on August 24, 2005 04:32 PM | #
Many of these theories are good. Such as crookshanks being an Animagi. I will post sp,e more theories later…
Posted on August 24, 2005 05:05 PM | #
Could RAB be someone from borgan and burkes? because maybe they figured out what tom was up to (he did work for them) and they tried to stop him.
i just thought of that
Posted on August 24, 2005 09:13 PM | #
Maybe it is Burke. Because the way they explain it Borgin is living and Burke is dead!
Posted on August 24, 2005 09:29 PM | #
Hi guys. All your theories are great and I’ve really enjoyed reading them.
My friend and I have another theory where we agree that Snape is good and that he and Dumbledore had an agreement where Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him because the liquid that he drank to get to the Horcruxe in the cave (the locket) was actually the real Horcruxe…and by killing Dumbledore, they destroyed that Horcruxe. This would also epxlain why Hagrid heard Snape and Dumbledore arguing. I know it seems like a far fetch but I guess its something to think about…
Posted on August 24, 2005 10:00 PM | #
Well I think that everybody who has been posting on this website except for Jack maybe, has agreed that Snape is good and that he and Dumbledore had a promise to eachother and that Dumbledore ‘being killed’ was a plan. There are also some theories such as Dumbledore is an Animagi(Phoenix) and transformed and all. Now for the Potion being hte Horcruxe I think that is a possibility and if it is true a I have a little part to add on to that:
If the potion was the Horcruxe then Dumbeldore doesn;t know Tom Riddle as well as he thought he knew him. As in he says that Riddle will like trophies. BUT if Dumbledore did know that then here is what I think. Snape said Avada Kedavra and used Avada Kedavra. BUT there is a way for Animagi to kill their human body BUT live in there Animagi form. SO maybe the potion was only in the human body so Snape said the spell in the way that only kills the human body! So the Horcruxe is destroyed. AND Dumbledore can live on as an Animagi to halp Harry kill Voldermort!
Posted on August 24, 2005 10:21 PM | #
the “theory” that Dumbledore is an animagus isn’t a theory, it’s true. the theory is what is his animagus form, but considering how dumbledore loves pheonixs, it is believe that his animagus form is also a pheonix.
By the way, does anyone have any idea why Dumbledore has a map of London just above his knee in the form of a scar? (Chapter one, book one) It’s supposed to be explained, I think, but I just don’t get it.
Posted on August 25, 2005 05:47 AM | #
I found the following website pretty informative. Perhaps the readers here would like to give it a looksee?
http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com
Posted on August 25, 2005 08:10 AM | #
Dodger: If you look at every Hundred posts on this website about ten people have posted the Dumbldoreisnotdead.com thing. BUT I suggest you read it if you haven’t…
Posted on August 25, 2005 09:16 AM | #
you agree with me easter that the whole book has not been written :-)
Posted on August 25, 2005 09:31 AM | #
The whole book has been written! If she wrote the last chapterthen she wrote the rest of the book!
Posted on August 25, 2005 10:06 AM | #
J.K. I think does have the book written but is waiting to realease for plublicity!
Posted on August 25, 2005 02:11 PM | #
Yes Brian! She is trying to build suspense so everybody will buy it!
Posted on August 25, 2005 02:31 PM | #
i don’t think the book is finished yet. i mean she might have finished a draft, or maybe half the book but it takes months and months to write a book like that.
Posted on August 25, 2005 02:35 PM | #
CyberJohn: When she realeased the 3rd book she was writing the 6th book. OK? So when she released the 4th book she was writing the 7th book. So she is already finished!
Posted on August 25, 2005 02:48 PM | #
It’s Very Common Knowledge CyberJohn, Please don’t be Angry!
Posted on August 25, 2005 04:29 PM | #
Im almost sure it wasnt regulus… remember Mark Evans? Remember how she will hint things like regulus to confuse us? Have we ever been right about who it was? no… not really. regulus did betray voldemort ok we know that but it was a 2 man job… if you wanna say he took kreacher.. thats just kind of making up the book your going into to much detail for a small explanation… we prolly dont know who it is. We prolly wont find out either or at least not until the next book comes out.
P.S. Bran will you email me any harry potter books that you have prewritten i think that would be very interesting (rawrawegg@yahoo.com)
Posted on August 25, 2005 04:42 PM | #
Ya i wasn’t showing off or anything CyberJohn. I was just explaining that the odds were very likely that she had written the game. I didn’t mean to anger you in anyway!
Posted on August 25, 2005 04:54 PM | #
I Don’t Like the other books, they are really weak It’s Not Regulus! Sorry!
Posted on August 25, 2005 05:28 PM | #
Sorry for what Brian? And what other books are weak?
Posted on August 25, 2005 05:30 PM | #
it’s okay, i just had never heard that before. but anyway i think rowling has a version of the book done but, she will make changes or add details.
maybe RAB could be a Bones family member, because why would voldemort kill Madam Bones? to get information? im not sure. just an idiar
Posted on August 25, 2005 05:31 PM | #
Ok Cyberohn no problem…That is a possibility. I think he killed Madam bones’s sister. Because Whoever told Susan Bones that her MOTHER had been killed. And then Madam Bones was killed too.
Posted on August 25, 2005 05:36 PM | #
The seventh book has not been writen, and that’s common knowledge. She was not writing the 6th book when she published the 3rd. She was making SIDE NOTES, for the book’s plot. She wasn’t actually writing it in details. She’s said that a million and a half times. She can write the last chapter without writing the rest of the book, because it’s only an epilogue, it doesn’t have much to do with the rest of the books.
Now, I was just reading the first book, and I think that there are some important things to note in it.
1) “…’Scars can come in useful. I have one myself above my left knee which is a perfect map of London Underground.’…” (pg 17)
2) “Dumbledore is particularly famous for his defeat of the dark wizard Grindelwald in 1945” (pg 77)
3) “…’My dear Friar, haven’t we given Peeves all the chances he deserves? He gives us all a bad name and you know, he’s not really even a ghost’…” (pg 86)
4) “…’I don’t need a cloak to become invisible,’ said Dumbledore” (pg 156)
5) “…’I? I see myself holding a pair of thick, woolen socks.’ … ‘One can never have enough socks’ …” (pg 157)
(NOTE: all pages are UK Edition)
1) His scar is important, but how so?
2) This, I think, is the only person Dumbledore ever actually killed
3) Peeves is NOT a ghost
4) Dumbledore is a lot better with magic than others
5) Dumbledore either has an odd obsession with socks, or he didn’t say what he most desires. If it’s the latter, than what does he want?
Posted on August 25, 2005 06:51 PM | #
1) His scar is important because he can see what Voldermort is doing! Dumbledore just says it is bad because he soen’t want Harry to think that he is a spy for the Order!
2) Yes I agree, Dumbledore only killed Grindewald. But I don’t think that he made a Horcrux when he did kill Grindewald. WAIT! It says he is famous for his DEFEAT of Grinedewald. That doesn’t mean he killed him.
3) Of course Peeves is not a ghost he is Polterologist or whatever.
4) That is obvous
5)He doesn’t desire socks! That is a lie!
Posted on August 25, 2005 09:40 PM | #
i think it would be an amazing idea, for harry to look at the marauder’s map and see R.A.B inside the chamber of secrets………
Posted on August 26, 2005 06:45 AM | #
I’m Talking about my other books i wrote dmtat! And Easter I don’t like it when you are rude and throw things in other people’s faces!
Posted on August 26, 2005 08:00 AM | #
Brian: What do you mean by:”I’m Talking about my other books i wrote dmtat!”And what did Easter throw in other people’s faces? Just curious. But yes it would be really cool if he looked on the Marauder’s Map and saw Regelus Alphard Black or some RAB in the Chamber of Secrets. Wait. Harry has never seen the Chamber on the Map. Well maybe it is there? But I am sure it is never mentioned. But yes that would be cool.
Posted on August 26, 2005 09:03 AM | #
I’m not sure the chamber is on the map, otherwise the twins would have noticed it. The chamber is a hidden place, as is the Room of Requirements, and the room doesn’t show up, so I wouldn’t be too sure he was in the chamber, although it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have RAB walking around somewhere.
DMTAT, the fifth note (the socks) was what Dumbledore said, it obviously isn’t true. The question is what would he like most? I just think it would be funny if he wanted socks the most. The fourth note was more just saying he can, so it could come in again, some how, in the seventh book.
And what I said that was “rude” was just saying that JKR didn’t write all the book yet. She was writing side notes when she was writing the other books. I doubt she would be done the 7th book right now. If she did, she wouldn’t hold on to it for tweo years. She has stated several time that she has started writing it, but hasn’t really had the time to start doing a lot of writing with her new daughter.
Posted on August 26, 2005 09:20 AM | #
the chamber will not be on the map. Salazar did not want it to be discovered by any other than the heir of Salazar. He would have made it unplottable like Beuxbatons and Durmstrang. Also did Sirius, Peter, Remus and James know about the chamber. The invented the map.
Posted on August 26, 2005 10:47 AM | #
They invented it but they put a charm on it so that it would chart the school all by itself. So maybe you have to be in the Chamber to see what is in it. And you know I just got an idea. What if Malfoy was only in the Room of Requirement that night? What if he was in the Chamber the rest of the time?
Posted on August 26, 2005 10:55 AM | #
no because why would Crabbe and Goyle be guarding the room of requirement.
Posted on August 26, 2005 11:41 AM | #
Malfoy probably knew that Harry was onto him and knew that he could deduct it so he just made them stand guard so it would throw Harry off. Or else why didn’t a door come when Harry walked by it? Because the room didn’t know where Malfoy was working!
Posted on August 26, 2005 12:44 PM | #
Draco can’t speak parsel toungue, he couldn’t have been in the chamber of secrets. why would he be in there anyways?
i don’t think RAB is alive, but if he was i would guess he would be trevor. i think RAB was not working with Dumbledore. Maybe RAB was trying to learn how to make himself some Horcruxes. i don’t know. maybe
Posted on August 26, 2005 02:15 PM | #
Well it never says that he didn’t but ya that s true. He would be in the chamber to trick Harry.
Posted on August 26, 2005 02:18 PM | #
Yes I do have MSN Messenger CyberJohn
Posted on August 26, 2005 02:38 PM | #
Oh My god Sorry for the confusion ! It would be really neat if Trevor was R.A.B. I think it could happen!
Posted on August 26, 2005 03:47 PM | #
I enjoyed reading this whole line and wanted to throw in my comments and theories to share. If I repeated anything, forgive me but just trying to expand some thoughts.
*Let’s go back to the powerful magic Lily used. Can the thing that Snape did to gain Dumbledore’s trust was to tell Lily the only way to save her son? Snape is very creative and extremely smart. Could he have figured out how Lily could use her love to stop the Dark Lord from taking her child? We know Lily was good at potions but how did she possess the knowledge to defeat Lord V? So Snape knows Potter lives only because of him but cannot take any credit.
*I think Dumbledore is dead. He could not have a Horcrux because he is not a dark wizard. He said he was not afraid of death. The snoozing of his portrait was common for all the portraits. Sometimes they even faked like they were asleep. They are only summoned to use by the head person. I also doubt if the portrait would know how it died. However, I cannot deny that a lot of the events are portrayed so that you can be swayed either way. They made a big deal of Snape creating his own spells and the use of non-verbal spells.
*Of course Snape is good. He is mad at himself for having to kill Dumbledore but remember that for a whole chapter Dumbledore reminds Harry he promised to do exactly what Dumbledore asks him to do. I believe that is what Dumbledore did with Snape and Snape promised. Snape had a choice of breaking his vow or killing Dumbledore and Dumbledore told Snape he must kill Dumbledore to save Drako and his family when they made eye-contact. Snape says “no” but then Dumbledore pleads with him. Later, he gets mad at Harry for calling him a coward, yet he fights Harry with a dark spell and he prevents the other Death Eaters from doing it too.
*The spider, Arogog, dying is still a mystery to me. I am trying to figure out why it would take up so much of the book if it didn’t have another meaning.
*Fluer is not an agent. She is going to marry Bill and the wedding will be the start of Harry’s adventure.
*Can Dudley be a squib? Dumbledore talks about the way they have treated him and I am sure that there is a secret left in the household. Despite how they treated him, Harry will make peace with them.
*I would not be surprised if Snape becomes Harry’s mentor. Remember that Harry learned a lot from Snape’s notes and Snape was impressed that Harry learned his spells.
*RAB was not known to Dumbledore and does use the words Dark Lord, so I am going with the crowd and say it is Regulus since it makes partial sense. My guess is Regulus found out about this particular Horcrux and decides to destroy it. He makes it known to his mother that he is leaving the Death Eaters and they kill him before he could destroy the Horcrux.
OK, that’s my start.
Posted on August 26, 2005 04:37 PM | #
sorry, in my Snape rant I wrote “he fights Harry with a dark spell” when it should read “he doesn’t fight Harry with a dark spell”
Posted on August 26, 2005 04:42 PM | #
That is all mtrue and I agree with Trevor tT
Posted on August 26, 2005 07:42 PM | #
anybody notice that hermione although being muggle born shudders wen ‘voldemort’ is said?
Posted on August 27, 2005 01:50 AM | #
you little… Shes written the last chapter yeah. But she hasn’t written everything before that. Because she had a clear view of the ending. dumbledore. So she wrote that first. You don’t have to write a book in order. Back me up easter
Posted on August 27, 2005 04:08 AM | #
tell him EASTER! Alot of people write the last chapter before they start, oh my giddy ant get a face! :0!
Posted on August 27, 2005 04:46 AM | #
yeah what is it about how they say they mistreted dudley once and dumbledore mentions it. I think this is something thatwill be explained. Though i doubt he’ll be a squib. Is that thing about dumbledores scar only in the american version. I’ve got teh one wityh the black and white cover of the train. Please explain jim
Posted on August 27, 2005 04:50 AM | #
sorry about my sweaty spelling trying to get used to new keyboard.
Posted on August 27, 2005 04:51 AM | #
in the third book it says you can still live if a dementor sucks your soul out of you if your heart and brain are still working. So this horcrux thing contradicts herself on what she said before.
Posted on August 27, 2005 04:55 AM | #
GUYS GIVE ME A LIST OF WHAT YOU THINK ARE THE SEVEN HORCRUXES
Posted on August 27, 2005 05:02 AM | #
Firstly I’d like to warn anybody who has not yet finished HBP yet, to NOT READ THIS!!
Now that I’ve got that over and done with….
I am going to discuss horcruxes.
1. Voldy himself has 1/7th of his own soul
2. The ring that Dumbledore destroyed
3. Riddle’s diary
4. Nagini the snake (Dumbley’s theory, but I believe it’s true for some similar reasons that I give for my number 7 idea)
5. Hufflepuff’s goblet (another theory, but again I believe it’s true - otherwise, why steal it?)
6. The locket
7. (I will discuss this one in a minute, this is my main theory!)
But firstly, the locket.
If you have finished reading HBP (if you haven’t then a) this will ruin the story for you and b) you won’t understand it anyway!) then you’ll know that the locket that Dumbley and Harry found together was a fake. So where is the real locket? We also know that a note was left by R.A.B. and that the letter was addressed TO VOLDERMORT! If you look back to OotP for a moment, you will remember that when cleaning out 12, Grimmauld Place, a locket was found that nobody could open….could this be the missing horcrux? Also bear in mind that Grimmauld Place was the Black’s house….Sirius’ brother was called Regulus Black. We don’t know if he does have a middle name or not, but this could be him.
We also know that Regulus was killed on Voldemort’s orders! I have two theories: 1. Regulus was killed because Voldemort suspected that he’d tried to (or had succeeded in) stealing part of his soul. Regulus might have been a complete Voldy fanatic. Or maybe he thought that he was able to protect his master in the ultimate way by doing this. 2. Voldemort ordered his death and Regulus fled from his home, doing whatever he could to destroy Voldemort. We know that Sirius defied his parent’s and joined the OotP instead of the Death Eaters. Perhaps after that, the Blacks felt more pressure to perfect Regulus and becoming a Death Eater was a way to prove himself initially. I know that Regulus was a Slytherin whereas Sirius was a Gryffindor, but being a Slytherin doesn’t automatically make/mean you’re evil. Slytherin also represented cunning and slyness - defying Voldemort in this way does indeed suggest really great cunning. So also perhaps the portrait of Sirius’ mum will know something? She may become more important.
If this is true though, you’d think Dumbledore would at least suspect this? If so, maybe although he knew that the one he searched for at the end of HBP was a fake, he did it anyway to show Harry, and to get more clues as to whether it is indeed the horcrux at Grimmauld Place.
Horcrux Number 7:
I think that the last horcrux is Harry Potter. Throughout the books, there have been some big hints. Dumbledore does say that when Voldy went to kill Harry, he was still one horcrux short. He also says to Harry (when explaining why Harry is a Parselmouth) that when Voldy tried to kill Harry, he PUT A BIT OF HIMSELF INTO HARRY!!!! This is the main evidence I have, although it would also explain how Harry could see parts of Voldemort’s thoughts and feel his emotions. Rather like Nagini. Also, in OotP when Harry sees Nagini attacking Arthur Weasley, he is looking through Nagini’s eyes. Harry also feels what Nagini/Voldy is feeling, and feels thirst for blood. Could this not be because they all contain parts of Voldy’s soul, and are therefore connected in that way.
Also, bear in mind that Harry has a lightning shaped scar on his forehead. The ring that was another horcrux had a split down it in a sort of zigzag shape. Zigzag and lightning shaped are rather similar…….(if you look on the jacket of the children’s edition, then there is the ring on the spine, this shows the lightning shape mark)
If this is true (I hear you all smugly sneer at me) then wouldn’t Dumbledore have known? (It being dear old Dumbley that told Harry he had part of Voldy in him) Well. At the stage that Harry said that, Harry did not know about the horcruxes. Dumbledore was also not entirely certain himself (he did not have the unmodified version of Slughorn’s memory). You may also notice that Dumbledore never usually tells Harry big important things like that unless Harry asks him. He prefers Harry to figure it out himself, giving him helpful hints and nudges along the way (i.e. telling him he has part of Voldy in him!!) Maybe this also explains partly why Harry did survive…perhaps there is something which prevents you from destroying a piece of your own soul, so the curse rebounded (I know there’s this whole thing with the love from Lily, so maybe the strength of them combined which ended up making Voldemort bodiless etc.
Of course, if this is all true, then that means Harry would have to destroy a piece of soul that is inside of him. Either Harry must die, or find a way of moving the soul somewhere else. As you can imagine this would involve highly dark, dangerous, not to mention difficult magic, especially as it is not his own soul he is trying to move. Or of course there may be a way to destroy the soul whilst keeping Harry intact, though this could be tricky and risky. For all we know, Harry could end up like Neville’s parents, or dead himself.
{BTW, I’d just like to add here that I completely disagree with the theory about the sweet wrapper. Neville’s parents are insane…they’ve gone through the worst imaginable things, and I believe their fate was worse than that of Lily and James. Neville may have kept the sweet wrapper not because he knows it is a message, but because it is the only interaction he can get with his parents, and something like that must be intensely important to him}
ANYHOO! I’d also like to quickly state that I still don’t think that Snape is truly evil, and will save someone’s life….at the moment I’m leaning towards the idea that he’ll save Ginny’s life when Harry couldn’t (coz he’s fighting Bellatrix or something) and Harry will see, or if not, Ginny will end up having a hard time trying to explain that he saved her (he may well think she’s under the Imperius Curse).
I also think that Snape will try to “save” Draco and make him redeem himself, because when you think about it, if Draco had parents like the Weasley’s then he’d probably have nothing against Muggles/Half-Bloods/Muggle-borns (no longer Mudbloods if he is transformed!). Because I think that Draco is saveable and it should happen.
Oh, and Ron will save Hermione’s life (similar to when she was attacked by the troll in PS - and yes, it is PS not SS…PS is the original and what JKR named it and I’m sorry but can we please keep something English and not make it Americanised) because although Hermione’s really clever, in practice she never does quite as well.
Dumbledore also keeps going on about the ability to love will defeat Voldy etc, obviously, something to do with Harry loving Ginny (and vice versa) will be significant in Number 7.
Lastly, my idea on what book 7 will be called? HP and something which gives a clue/proof that he’s the last horcrux….
Thanks to SS for discussing these theories with me and for coming to these conclusions with me!!
Posted on August 27, 2005 05:43 AM | #
why does ewveryone ignore my idea?
read above…comm.958
Posted on August 27, 2005 08:06 AM | #
Dumbledore’s man, did you add me to your list yet?
-mrguy you’re just too weird and stupid to talk to,
horcruxes:
1 ring
2 locket
3 diary
4 cup
5 voldemort
6 harry
7 sorting hat
just my ideas
Posted on August 27, 2005 09:16 AM | #
lupin goes on about you can live without your soul, as long as your heart and brain are still working when they are discussing the dementors kiss. I think Harry will remember this and try to destroy his brain and heart. I am probably completely wrong. Harry can’t be a horcrux because how would he find out? Nobody even knows voldemort has horcruxes and how is harry gonna find out on his own, Voldemorts not gonna tell him.
Posted on August 27, 2005 10:11 AM | #
NO CyberJohn I don’t know what your screenname is. I forgot it…
Posted on August 27, 2005 10:34 AM | #
it’s cahte@hotmail.com
add it the minute you read this
Posted on August 27, 2005 10:43 AM | #
I added you CyberJohn and you aren’t on…
Posted on August 27, 2005 11:15 AM | #
sorry my computer is retarded and it logs off a lot by it’s self and it takes a buttload of time to reboot.
Posted on August 27, 2005 11:54 AM | #
Cyberjohn, you were not kind with MrGuy. Come on!
MrGuy, it was an interesting comment, since only people born in the wizarding world would really shudder, because of the long years of Voldemort domination before Harry was born. However, I think the character Hermione is very well-built, and has no misteries.
Everybody: When Dumbledore tells the Dursleys about the way they treated Dudley, I believe it refers to how they spoiled the boy, and how much that is going to infere in his adult life. Just it, simple like that!
Posted on August 27, 2005 12:04 PM | #
Cyberjohn, you were not kind with MrGuy. Come on!
MrGuy, it was an interesting comment, since only people born in the wizarding world would really shudder, because of the long years of Voldemort domination before Harry was born. However, I think the character Hermione is very well-built, and has no misteries.
Everybody: When Dumbledore tells the Dursleys about the way they treated Dudley, I believe it refers to how they spoiled the boy, and how much that is going to infere in his adult life. Just this, simple like that!
Posted on August 27, 2005 12:06 PM | #
yeah paty i agree with you about the dudley thing, but have you read the other comments mrguy has posted? the kid is retarded. read posts 139-144,150-151 and 418 by mrguy, then tell me to be kind with mrguy.
but i agree with the dudley thing
Posted on August 27, 2005 12:15 PM | #
so Paty, do you agree with me that mrguy is truly gay and is an insanely stupid butt-sweat-baker? you can’t deny the obvious evidence.
Posted on August 27, 2005 12:24 PM | #
CyberJohn: Well, his comments are a bit confuse,
but I think he is not an English native speaker, is he? Anyway, this is a democratic space.
I like your idea of the Sorting Hat being a Horcrux. Very original!
Posted on August 27, 2005 12:38 PM | #
Paty! Look at thos posts! You can’t be nice to MrGuy! And yes he is a native Engilish speaker. Well i think he. They aren’t condusing. They are stupid!
Posted on August 27, 2005 12:58 PM | #
CyberJohn! i hate you, im going find were you live and rape you! i hate it when people are so mean to me!!!!!
Posted on August 27, 2005 02:00 PM | #
MrGuy: Just curious: What if CyberJohn lives in Japan? Will you go there?
Posted on August 27, 2005 05:53 PM | #
the last cople of comments seem like jibberish to me…but the info many dedicated harry potter fan have literally open my eyes to many endings and crap to me. w00t…thats good, i dont hafta really think about it anymore…my eyes hurt from reading these comments…GIMME MORE I SAY! hehe…so…ill b gone…my grubby hands are still wrapped around the book..w00t. jk cheers
Posted on August 27, 2005 08:45 PM | #
Come on Guys, We need to get back on topic Harry Potter, By the way our book is really awesome, it’s going to be huge and great by the time it’s Finished!
Posted on August 27, 2005 08:51 PM | #
You are right Brian. We are talking about completely unrelated crap! Get back on topic!
Posted on August 27, 2005 09:45 PM | #
sooo….anyone have anymore great explaination for…the stuff? well…gimme something! lol
Posted on August 27, 2005 11:21 PM | #
bonjour:I reckon that harry is one the last horcrux but voldermort doesn’t know it. So he is determined to kill harry but he will die if he kills the last horcrux. All the damage has done will be revived. Harrys mum and dad will be back and cedric and harry himself.
Posted on August 28, 2005 05:13 AM | #
hola to you jack….hm….great ideas =] more for me to think about
Posted on August 28, 2005 05:47 AM | #
hola to you jack….hm….great ideas =] more for me to think about…cept i dunt like cedric coz he likes cho chang and i want cho chang to b wof harry! damn that ginny!!!
Posted on August 28, 2005 05:47 AM | #
have u seen who will be playing cho chang in the movie oooooooooooooooo/ ugly. Another idea. In the 3rd book harry gets the tea leaves with the omen of death. doesn’t that mean he will die?
Posted on August 28, 2005 06:26 AM | #
what is wof? And why are u damning ginny. Ginny is great! Everyone loves and fancies ginny. Don’t they? don’t they!!!!!!
Posted on August 28, 2005 06:27 AM | #
phonex ideas for what. que tal? Don’t SHOOT ME!
Posted on August 28, 2005 06:29 AM | #
HARRY ONLY GETS ATTRACTED TO GINNY WHEN HE SEES DEAN AND HER MAKING OUT. iT WAS ALL ABOUT CHO CHANG BEFORE. lOOKS LIKE HARRY HAS A DIRTY MIND. Your comments easter, phoenix and kansas?
Posted on August 28, 2005 06:31 AM | #
horcruxes:
1 ring
2 locket
3 diary
4 cup
5 Nagini
6 harry
7 voldermort
Why does everyone want to make the sorting hat a horcrux? It help defeat the diary in Chamber of Secrets along with Griffindor’s sword.
Posted on August 28, 2005 07:02 AM | #
didn’t dumbledore say somewhere in the book that they could rule out the nagini being a horcrux idea? i’ll look it up
Posted on August 28, 2005 08:49 AM | #
I can’t find it, but hey what was Luna’s mother experimenting on when she died. because i t also said in chapter 2o in hbp voldemort says “i have expeimented; i have pushed the boundaries of magic further, perhaps, than ever pushed–”
“Of some kinds of magic,” Dunbledore corrected him quietly.
that was the memory of when voldemort tried to get a job at hogwarts, but i don’t think he was looking for a job, because obviously dumbledore wouldn’t give it to him. i think voldemort was looking for items for horcruxes in DD’s office. idk.
i was talking to Dj W!ldc@rd and he asked about in GOF that wormtail killed Cedric but why did his ghost come out of voldemort’s wand? it could be that he just killed cedric with bigV’s wand but it might mean something else. geez.
Posted on August 28, 2005 09:21 AM | #
that is interesting , but i’m sure it won’t be a mistake by j.k
Posted on August 28, 2005 09:54 AM | #
The problem with something in the office is that Dumbledore never left him alone in the office and no one dies while he was there.
However, maybe in the forrest there is something. Remember that Lord V was drinking unicorn blood there, so he may have a hiding spot. And maybe that is where Arogog comes in. The forrest does hold a lot of dark magic.
Posted on August 28, 2005 10:13 AM | #
Awesome! that might be what happens but idk. it’s pretty cool.
Posted on August 28, 2005 10:43 AM | #
Wow I haven’t been here in a day and there are a bunch of mind blowing comments. I agree with all of them except for Harry being a Horcrux…
Posted on August 28, 2005 11:37 AM | #
I Can’t Believe that i wanted the 1000 comment guess i got to Settle with Vikram for the 1001 comment!
Posted on August 28, 2005 11:39 AM | #
Yes Brian. I beat ya to it! Just joking. Hahaha……..
Posted on August 28, 2005 11:55 AM | #
I agree with the list of the Horcrux’s except for Harry. Remember, he needs something of Rowena Ravenclaws. JKR has a habit of taking ideas and concepts from numerous other areas. A friend of mine pointed out that in a deck of Tarot cards, the 4 suits are Swords, Cups, Wands and Coins. We have 4 houses at Hogwarts. Gryffindor was a sword. Hufflepuff was the cup. The locket of Slytherin’s is kind of a coin shape (plus Malfoy uses coins to contact the death eaters). Finally, Ravenclaw’s could be a wand. Now, if you read the 1st book carefully, you will see that in the window of Ollivander’s shop sits a wand on a purple cushion. Purple is the color of royalty. Also, Ollivander is an anigram. If you change it around it spells AN EVIL LORD. And, his shop isn’t damaged, he’s just gone. The wand in the window was a horcrux and Ollivander is in league with Voldemort.
Posted on August 28, 2005 12:33 PM | #
You are right JDO! That makes perfect sense. The wand is on a purple cusion! Purple is the color of Ravenclaw! And Ollivander does make an evil lord! Plus he could be like A General of LV’s or something………..
Posted on August 28, 2005 12:57 PM | #
Oh My God! You are right! How dumb of me not to Look up Ollivander on an anigram Website Iv’e looked up countless other Harry Potter Characters but never Ollivander! What a wonderful Deduction!
Posted on August 28, 2005 01:08 PM | #
Ollivander is evil. He is helping Voldermort. His anagram is An Evil Lord. He has Rovena Ravenclaw’s wand which is one of Voldermort’s Horcruxes. But if he really is a spy or helper for Voldermort two things surprise me:
1. If he really is spy why didn’t JK go more into his history? Well that might be so no one thinks of him. But here is the real mystery.
2. IF he is a spy then why didn’t Voldermort know about Priori Incamtem? I mean Ollivander knows enough about wands to realize that there would be a Priori Incantem. BUT Voldermort doesn’t know! Here is one more thing…
3. In GOF the way JK describes Voldermort walking around it sounds like he walks past an empty space without saying anything about it! Maybe Ollivander is a secret Death Eater. That not even the normal Death Eaters know about. I am not sure I was reading the fourth book carefully after seeing this and I saw that. I am not sure but maybe????…
Posted on August 28, 2005 01:23 PM | #
the anagram is too much of a coincidence to be false. All your thoughts add up. You are an excellent thinker,JDO and I also believe your wand theory. This is not too farfetched to be false, but definetely is not obvious because no-one else thought of it. It is exactly the thing J.K would do.
Posted on August 28, 2005 01:24 PM | #
i agree with you dumbledore’s man. Ollivander is a death eater, the anagram is too much of a coincidence.
Posted on August 28, 2005 01:26 PM | #
Yes, Ollivander is not good at all he is a Secret Death Eater and a terrible man Evil evil Evil evil
Posted on August 28, 2005 01:50 PM | #
here is my thoughts on everything.
Horcruxes:
Voldemort
Hufflepuffs cup
Slytherins locket
Slytherins ring (DESTROYED)
Nagini
Rowena Ravenclaws wand in Ollivanders shop
Diary (DESTROYED).
R.A.B
Probably Regulus but J.K might be trying to throw us off track. If it is Regulus then the locket found in Grimmuald polace IS the horcrux.
Snape
Probably good but a slim chance of him being evil. He did not wish to kill dumbledore.
Is Dumbledore dead
Yes. I stick firmly with my opinion. J.K is trying to throw us off course but she made errors. “As for the strange angle of his arms and legs he may have been sleeping”. This is far too obvious; it even hints he might be alive. The liquid in the basin is not the druaght of living death because dumbledore was screaming “I want to die, I want to die”. J.K said that someone will die in this book and i don’t think she would lie about that.
Relationships
Harry will hook up with either Parvati, Hermione or Ginny. IS SEAMUS GAY?
Ollivander
Secret Death Eater. No sign of a struggle. And in the first book he says that harry’s wand brother did “great things”. They only made Fortescue go so it did not seem to obvious taht something was wrong with Ollivander. “The evil lord”, being an anagram with Ollivander proves this as we know J.K likes anagrams becuase “Tom Marvolo Riddle” is an anagram of “I am Lord Voldemort”.
Malfoy
Will have a chance to prove his worth to Voldemort, won’t have the ability to kill inside him or something like that.
Posted on August 28, 2005 02:19 PM | #
never ollivander noooooooo. yeah so what if he says the brother of the wand did great things, he also says terrible, but then he says but great. Oh my giddy aunt he’s a death eater!
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:00 PM | #
So Jack? All the evidence points to Ollivander being evil. He could just say that because he wanted to keep his cover and Hagrid was right there……………
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:08 PM | #
Sorry guys, been gone for the weekend. I think Harry only has an eye for Ginny. I also still don’t think that Harry is a horcruxe, remember, kids books don’t kill the main character. The Dudley and squib, NO, because that would mean his parents are magic. But, he could be a “muggle-born” who has difficulty doing magic.
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:11 PM | #
alright yeah we all knw that nothing will happen to harry and hermione, because rowling told the director of P.O.A in the movie t o show clues for the last two books. Where hermione grabs rons hand and errrr yeah.
Dudley is not a squib:)
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:16 PM | #
hagrid wasn’t right there anyway he wasout getting hedwig.
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:18 PM | #
Wand is a good guess. I can go with that. Good anigram catch.
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:18 PM | #
there is one thing i don’t like about harry potter. It’s the cover for the books! Harry always looks like a little girl on them
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:19 PM | #
Thank you for the compliment. Here are some more thoughts. Remember in Book 1, Harry finds Ollivander creepy and thinks that he doesn’t like him that much. Also, I don’t know many people other than death eaters or dark wizards that would think that anything that Voldemort did was great.
I agree that RAB is Regulus and I don’t think JKR minds that being fairly easy to figure out, because, of course, the trick will be to figure out how and why RAB took the horcrux. I think that Regulus joined the death eaters because he felt that his parents wanted him to. But, when he found out that he was expected to kill people, he got cold feet. Also, it’s possible that he overheard Voldemort talking about the horcruxes, or maybe he saw him make one. I believe that however he learned of them, he decided to go get one of the horcruxes, the locket. He took Kreatcher with him and brought the horcrux back to 12 Grimmaud Place. Now, the locket is either still at the house because Kreacher hid it or Mundungus stole it and it’s who knows where.
I’m still making up my mind about Snape and Dumbledore and I have a number of theories, some of which have already been discussed on this website.
I do believe that Petunia Dursley will have more of a role in the last book, just because it is clear that Dumbledore had sent letters just to her in the past. JKR made this clear in an interview. The question is, what does she really know and how can it help Harry?
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:25 PM | #
Yes, Petunia plays a key role in the beginning of book 7 because it must be revealed why Dumbledore sent her several letters before Harry was left at her door step. Also, I don’t think RAB knew that Lord V had more than one horcrux. His note made it sound like he thought he was destroying the only horcrux.
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:42 PM | #
HA! i knew ollivander had something to do with death eater’s!(i said so in comm.495)
dang! i wish i would’ve realized that earlier.
hmm. maybe ollivander isn’t in league with voldemort, maybe he’s conspiring against him and voldemort didn’t realize, and ollivander realized he had one of voldemorts horcruxes and ran. maybe OLLIVANDER wants to be the big dark lord. but that sounds ‘riddikulus’
what else….
Posted on August 28, 2005 03:44 PM | #
is anyone here? it’s been a few hours since my last post!
Posted on August 28, 2005 08:43 PM | #
i bet ollivander is an evil lord that would expalain why he is gone recantly
Posted on August 28, 2005 08:49 PM | #
i want to see thes prewritten books. can some one email them to me or give me a site please
Posted on August 28, 2005 09:11 PM | #
can someone tell me the site to see all these j.k interviews. Ginny is the bomb!
Posted on August 29, 2005 02:31 AM | #
lol jack!
erm…go and try and find sum hot azn chick on ta street….very rare indeed. i cant say im one …hehehe….but screw if shes not hot….good actress is all and if she can give harry a good snog i have no objections =]
Posted on August 29, 2005 04:08 AM | #
ginny is ta bomb my ass….cho chang cs. ginny =P
Posted on August 29, 2005 04:10 AM | #
cho chang vs. ginny wesley i mean =S
im not good at the spelling
Posted on August 29, 2005 04:20 AM | #
no the actor bonnie weasley. Haven’t you seen the girl playing cho chang in the film ugly as hell. Ginny is the bomb no lie i hope you agree. I wouldn’t mind giving her a kiss :)
Posted on August 29, 2005 11:06 AM | #
ginny is way fitter than cho chang. i think i am right about the wand in Ollivanders shop being an horcrux.
IS ANYONE HEER ENGLISH, YOU ALL SEEM TO BE ON AT A DIFFERENT TIME, ENGLAND IS 7 HOURS AFTER AMERICA?
Posted on August 29, 2005 11:56 AM | #
i’m english, you tell them ginny is fitter…
Nice hair, wink wink nudge nudge right freE, freE?
WHich wand?
Posted on August 29, 2005 01:25 PM | #
http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml
Most common interview
Posted on August 29, 2005 01:29 PM | #
berzing you tell em easter! Ginny:3 Cho chang:1
Posted on August 29, 2005 01:41 PM | #
oh my, you are all so stupid! i have said it before, there are way hotter chicks out there that the harry potter cast! everyone on harry potter movies are horrible actors and the ugliest people i have ever seen. stop talking about the actors!!!
Posted on August 29, 2005 02:13 PM | #
now, will someone tell me where they are writing versions of book like they were saying a while ago?
Posted on August 29, 2005 02:16 PM | #
writing versions snore! CYBERJOHN don’t ask me ask easter!
Posted on August 29, 2005 02:41 PM | #
I think it was Dumbledore’s Man Through and Through and someone else, so you’d have to ask them for it.
Posted on August 29, 2005 02:42 PM | #
well answer to jack’s question; the wand some people think is the wand in the window of ollivander’s to be the ravenclaw horcrux. because it’s on a purple cushion or something and if you mix up the letters in OLLIVANDER you can spell AN EVIL LORD. i don’t know if you already knew that, but there you go.
Posted on August 29, 2005 02:52 PM | #
where is the site where they are writing versions of book like they were saying a while ago?
Posted on August 29, 2005 03:13 PM | #
Hey Cyber John It Was Dumbledore’s Man Through And Through And I Who Were Writing a book But unfortunantly he backed out while he was writing the Fifth Chapter and I’m About 2 Chapters away From Finishing! Soory!
Posted on August 29, 2005 03:53 PM | #
Cyber John I Hand Wrote some of the Chapters so I Really Can’t Send it to you sorry!
Posted on August 29, 2005 06:19 PM | #
ohhhh okay well that’s too bad. do you have msn messenger? if you do add cahte@hotmail.com to your contacts list.
Posted on August 29, 2005 06:24 PM | #
Ollivander = An Evil Lord … I never knew that, good looking. Granted, I never thought of looking. I never noticed the tarrot cards thing, granted, I don’t use them.
Posted on August 29, 2005 06:41 PM | #
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/regulus.html
Basically, it states that RAB is Regulus, although I’m not sure if it was actually confirmed by JKR but they normally say when they are speculating.
Posted on August 29, 2005 08:21 PM | #
…man….im beat T_T
no one likes cho chang (the actor)
i can talk all i like bout actors….they arent they horrible…are they…? every1 is talking bout sumthing else and im way out of context so i am gonna shuddup….i have msn but meh….and btw i am in aus!!! w00t! go aus….cept we r gettin wooped in criket by youse english. T_T
k bak to harry potter….STOP BAGGING CHO!!!! sheesh shes still…um…human?
Posted on August 30, 2005 04:06 AM | #
i tell what else is good looking easter, ginny weasley. I think that an evil lord is just a coincidence… anyway he’s a death eater not a lord. oh what i’m stupid
Posted on August 30, 2005 05:09 AM | #
je deteste cho. Why don’t you marry her phoeniz you’d make a good couple. Anywho ollivander hmmmmmmm. He’s amazing in the book don’t call him evil. I don’t think she dropped enough hints to make him evil. Why is the wand the ravenclaw horcrux? was ollivander in ravenclaw?
Posted on August 30, 2005 05:11 AM | #
i bet u would marry ginny if u could huh jack? cept shes my age so watcha gonna do huh?
Posted on August 30, 2005 05:35 AM | #
i bet u would marry ginny if u could huh jack? cept shes my age so watcha gonna do huh?
Posted on August 30, 2005 05:36 AM | #
shes also my age, 13 right? anywho….
freE are u saying ravenclaw is the house of smart people? I would marry ginny yeah, as long as she had her hair straight…
Posted on August 30, 2005 06:17 AM | #
some of the actors on the films like in the deleted scenes on the dvd are rubbish!
I could replace them!
Posted on August 30, 2005 06:40 AM | #
so what if she’s your age shes mine too. Why u want to marry her aswell?
Posted on August 30, 2005 07:13 AM | #
Ravenclaw is known for its smartness. I would go out with ginny.
Posted on August 30, 2005 08:16 AM | #
i have started this ginny thing u know, nothing to be proud of… anywho shes mine not yours you can have germione :0
Posted on August 30, 2005 09:53 AM | #
Jack, “Ollivander = an evil lord” just a coincidence? I tried coming up with othe possibilities but could only get “venial lord” and “I vendor all”. Well, maybe someone else can come up with something better because I doubt that a name like that would not be an anagram.
Posted on August 30, 2005 10:03 AM | #
So i bet you could get anyone one from the book and mix the letters round to get something. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. tu madre es loca!
Posted on August 30, 2005 10:27 AM | #
she won’t do the same thing when shes already done tom marvolo riddle…
Posted on August 30, 2005 11:02 AM | #
Ollivander is not what he seems to be. The anagram would be a massive coincidence.
Posted on August 30, 2005 11:10 AM | #
Ginny is way fitter than Hermione. Why do you think all the boys like her. And ginny’s my age. You v=can go with hermione Jack.
Posted on August 30, 2005 11:13 AM | #
never hermione is about 16 now well 17 in the books but then again ginnty is 15! oh my giddy ant! or 16….
Anyway ginny is my age too! you don’t have the same love for her as i do!
Posted on August 30, 2005 11:31 AM | #
Sure, JKR has never shown us something in an early book that is used later. Definitely not her style. And she describes the single wand on a faded purple cushion as just a paragraph filler. She would never give us clues like that.
Posted on August 30, 2005 11:36 AM | #
i have more love for ginny than you do your a nutt, all you think about is kissing her.
Posted on August 30, 2005 12:05 PM | #
that’s a lie! I think of relaxing on the balcony with her, with a dry white martini hmmmmmmmmmm.
I think of errrr kissing no wait errrrr damn it freE! I think of relaxing and running away from the press and metting up with the harry potter film crew and being used as an extra, giving a middlefinger in the background for all to see. Ginny is in my heart…
Yeah well one line in a book could a big clue… but we never think about it eh.
Posted on August 30, 2005 12:41 PM | #
yeh well none of us is probably gonna see ginny so its a pointless argument.
Posted on August 30, 2005 01:52 PM | #
This site is for comments about the half blood prince and predictions! it is not about retarded gay pissants that think the cast of harry potter are good looking. so, SHUT THE FLIPPIN CRAP UP or leave the site.
GROW UP!!!!
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:13 PM | #
keith i will discuss what i like. Its still about Harry potter isn’t it?
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:17 PM | #
no you guys are talking about being gay with the actor that plays harry potter (pretty much) it’s pretty stupid! you are talking about the movies this site is about the BOOK! okay? just shut up about ugly butt-sweat-bakers!
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:27 PM | #
no you guys are talking about being gay with the actor that plays harry potter (pretty much) it’s pretty stupid! you are talking about the movies this site is about the BOOK! okay? just shut up about ugly butt-sweat-bakers!
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:28 PM | #
mmkay? do you idiots understanD!!??
if you really want to talk about other gay things go talk on messenger but stop wasting space on this page.
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:33 PM | #
woh woh which sister???????? I think you’ll find that those cast are relevant for the 7th book. Anyway people are talking about other things like msn and other books. geeze!!!!!!!!!!!! Ollivander is cool not evil. There happy keith!
stop posting things twice what is the point. geeze stop talking about the cast keith! get over ginny keith
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:35 PM | #
how am i wasting space on this page. Your the one posting the exact same thing twice why??? Anyway it takes under one second to scroll to teh bottom. Stop using the word gay, there are other insults. SWEAT! It seems freE is the only cool one here…. geeze!!!!!!
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:37 PM | #
i odn’t think dummbledore is actually dead. why?
Posted on August 30, 2005 02:43 PM | #
just wondering trying find out what the majority is…
Posted on August 30, 2005 03:03 PM | #
Maybe Ollivander is a animagas i think that crookshanks might be too
Posted on August 30, 2005 08:59 PM | #
This is my take:
Dummbledore not dead. Sirius not dead. Snape is on the good side and V will be kill not Neville and not Harry Potter. V made a mistake and marked Harry as the choosen one. Harry will be hurt in the end.
Posted on August 30, 2005 09:04 PM | #
This is my take:
Dummbledore not dead. Sirius not dead. Snape is on the good side and V will be kill by Neville and not Harry Potter. V made a mistake and marked Harry as the choosen one. Harry will be hurt in the end.
Posted on August 30, 2005 09:05 PM | #
Zelph, you are totally right. why wouldn’t ollivander be an amimagus? he is pretty good at magic isn’t he? maybe he turns into an owl or an animal with creepy eyes.
Posted on August 30, 2005 09:11 PM | #
good good jackie, that’s a good take, what do you think of ollivander being AN EVIL LORD
Posted on August 30, 2005 09:19 PM | #
personnaly I don’t think ollivander being evil. But the anagram is an interesting coincidence and gives an idea. what if Ollivander is Voldermort in disguse. That’s why one is able to find him. That would make sense of the anagram.
Posted on August 30, 2005 09:35 PM | #
you tell them jackie but i think sirius is dead…
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:35 AM | #
i think dumbledore is dead. Harry has to realize he has to do stuff on his own now. Ollivander might be an animagus.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:36 AM | #
ollivander an animagus? Just because he’s good with magic… you’ve gone too far jackie.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:37 AM | #
i agree with jack sirius is dead or why wouldn’t the order let him look for him when he went beyond the veil.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:38 AM | #
were getting paranoid. Were thinking that everyone is a death eater. I think Ollivander is innocent.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:40 AM | #
Jack has got the right idea. Ollivander could be a coincidence. I am confident the wand in the shop is a horcrux, thats why Voldemort had him taken away. Do you think they could have took something from Fortescue aswell, maybe theres a horcrux there.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:43 AM | #
oooo….u guys neva stop do u =]
smart as well….and the love for ginny is kinda creepy….freE has nice ideas….w00t
Posted on August 31, 2005 03:42 AM | #
It is a fact that Gideon and Fabian prewett are Mrs Weasleys sister and brother. If you don’t believe me go on www.jkrowling.com, and go on “rumours”. That will tell you.
Posted on August 31, 2005 06:20 AM | #
woh woh what do you mean phonex, me and freE never stop. How is love for ginny creepy geeze. I do not think the wand is a horcrux…. because knowing rolwing she would have left more clues.
Oh and that ollivander twisted round to make an evil lord is just a coincidence. Find any name from the book and bam you could twist it round. Harry potter=….
Hermione granger=….
ollivander=an evil lord oh no it’s true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ginny-yinng= see just a coincidence, it is clear that ginny is chinese. That was an impression of u guys except free :)
Posted on August 31, 2005 06:46 AM | #
Here are tghe things i think some of you are wrong about
Dumbledore is dead… but we will some form of spirit coming to help harry eh
Is fawkes dead? well if he isn’t then bam he’ll come back
Ollivander is not evil beause i think we would of gone more into his character like lucius and teh rest of the gang.
Ginny is da bomb
Tom marvola riddle=i am lord voldermort was good because it meant something, but an evil lord means nothing, he’s not even a lord if he was a death eater. I’m right your wrong except freE and meg
Posted on August 31, 2005 06:50 AM | #
i agree with Jack. If you remember near the end of the fourth book the death eaters apparated to Voldemorts side, and when he was going round the circle of death eaters which had gaps in it, there was no space for ollivander because Voldemort explained why they were not there and none of the explanations suited ollivander. Dumbledore is dead.
Posted on August 31, 2005 07:20 AM | #
you know what freE, you know what! Your a freakin genious. Ollivander is not a death eater…. an evil lord means nothing!
Posted on August 31, 2005 09:15 AM | #
ok Jack, instead of just saying he is not evil (in a very unconvincing way) why don’t you come up with a theory of why Ollivander disappeared and what it means? Just another coincidence? Just saying you’re right over and over and over again without proof to the contrary just is not convincing. Point to something in the book that says that Ollivander cannot be evil? As for the circle of death-eaters, Lord V skipped over some places of deatheaters who did not return. He doesn’t mention Snape, as an example.
Dumbledore is dead…or at least was dead at one time. The mystery surrounding his body may mean he can be brought back, but at some point he would have had to die for Snape to complete the unbreakable vow.
And Ollivander and Lord V cannot be the same person as Ollivander has been selling wands since 382 BC.
Posted on August 31, 2005 10:23 AM | #
yeah just another coincidence french… point to something in the book that says hes evil. Maybe he wanted to go on holiday trevor! hmmmmm. Quick back up!
FRENCH
A BOAT IS A BOAT BUT A BOX COULD BE ANYTHING IT COULD EVEN BE A BOAT! YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I’VE WANTED ONE OF THOSE…
Trevor your wrong we will see, if one of these archives comes up for the 7th book i’ll be there waiting and laughing!
Posted on August 31, 2005 10:41 AM | #
yeah snape would die if he dumbledore wasn’t dead, that is where u are right trevor.
FRENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on August 31, 2005 10:41 AM | #
If ollivander was evil, he would not let harry try that wand because he would know that Voldemort would one day try to kill Harry and Harry would not die because that connection between the two wands would come up again. He would not give Harry a wand that would protect him against voldemort if he wanted harry dead and Voldemort back to power.
There is as much proof as anyone can give you.
Posted on August 31, 2005 10:44 AM | #
you knoe, j.k might of just made the anagram of ollivander - an evil lord to just screw with us, or because, she couldnt think of another name, so she wrote down ‘an evil lord’ and made ollivander out of it
Posted on August 31, 2005 10:48 AM | #
Jack is right. Usually J.K leaves some clues to someone’s true identity. Brians idea seems like it could be true.
Posted on August 31, 2005 10:51 AM | #
If dumbledore is not dead tehn snape would be becuase of the unbreakable vow. Snape would probably of died then and there, as he tried to kill dumbledore and failed ( if dumbledore was not dead ).
Posted on August 31, 2005 10:54 AM | #
hey freE that was a good one about him selling the wand. Why would he, but then again he probably didn’t know. Neither did you know who when he actually dueled with harry, wouldn’t he have known. If ollivander was a death eater wouldn’t he have told him not to sell him that wand.
Posted on August 31, 2005 11:18 AM | #
Ollivander might have known i mean he is the most famous wand maker in the world. As far as i am concerned this is proof he is not a death eater.
Posted on August 31, 2005 11:32 AM | #
darn tootin. Let’s change the subject from ollivander he clearly isn’t evil read posts:1107-1112
hmmmmmm. So who thinks the next book will continue from dumbledores funeral?
Posted on August 31, 2005 11:59 AM | #
Dumbledores funeral will be part of the next book, but i think the book will start at the Dursleys. Petunia will tell harry some useful information. Then Harry will go to Bill and Fluers wedding. Then harry will find a clue about the first horcrux at godrics hollow.
Posted on August 31, 2005 12:32 PM | #
interesting… your probably right, except i don’t know how he’s gonna get info of aunt petunia
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:01 PM | #
You HAVE to see pictures of Harry Potter and the Goblet of fire movie. Fleur delacour looks really ugly. The dragon looks awesome. I want too see the trailor as soon as possible.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:37 PM | #
The trailer looks soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cool. you have to see it.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:43 PM | #
Does anyone understand won-won, i really don not get it.
Posted on August 31, 2005 01:46 PM | #
Fleur delacour looks really small compared to bill, at the wedding bill will probably be on his knees.
Posted on August 31, 2005 02:10 PM | #
Okay, I Thought of something today at school, What If when Tom Riddle went to Hogwarts to ask Dumbledore for a job{Chapter 20 Lord Voldemort’s Request}, he made his Special Services to the school award a horcrux? It seems like something he would do turn a trophy into a horcrux? Respond Respond!
Posted on August 31, 2005 03:06 PM | #
it’s a good idea about the trophy being a horcrux, but there just doesen’t seem room for that to be a horcrux, and i don’t know why you are all in denial about ollivander! you will just ignore AN EVIL LORD right in your face? he might not be a death eater he might be another evil lord, but i think he is AN EVIL LORD. geez get a hold of yourselves! well wasn’t ollivander around since 382 bc? he could of been an evil lord before voldemorts time?
Posted on August 31, 2005 03:29 PM | #
Ollivander sold Harry the wand when a) he thought Lord V was dead and b) When the deatheaters though Harry may be a power dark wizard as stated at the beginning of HBP.
Posted on August 31, 2005 03:39 PM | #
CyberJohn, I only see two people who actually believe Ollivander is not a dark lord…but they are a vocal two. Well one is vocal and freE at least makes good points.
The special trophy is a good idea as a horcrux…the award sounded strange when they first mentioned it.
Posted on August 31, 2005 03:44 PM | #
what does that have to do with ollivander being AN EVIL LORD? add cahte@hotmail.com to your msn list (if you have it) and we can geek talk as much as we want.
Posted on August 31, 2005 03:46 PM | #
well im stumped. but did you read the part when it mentioned even though wormtail killed cedric his ghost came out of voldemort’s wand? it might have been the wand wormtail killed him with. but what do you think? the award, wasn’t it given to him because he cought ‘the heir of slytherin’?
Posted on August 31, 2005 03:49 PM | #
The wand was Voldemort’s. Pettigrew was possessed by Lord V when he killed Cedric. Just like he tried to possess harry at the end of OotP.
Posted on August 31, 2005 04:24 PM | #
The point about Ollivander selling Harry the wand is at the time the death-eaters that Harry may be a darker wizard than Lord V, so Ollivander may have given Harry the wand expecting the same “great things” as Lord V.
Posted on August 31, 2005 04:32 PM | #
Yes, Trevor I Think that is was Ollivander was Intending. I think He gave Harry The wand so he might or would becom the next quote on quote “Lord Voldemort.” That Is what Ollivander meant by “we can expect great things from you Mr. Potter.” Thanks for that It’s a Great Theory! My Next Post will be my last Chapter of my Harry Potter And The Fortress Of Shadows! Enjoy!
Posted on August 31, 2005 04:59 PM | #
Chapter Nine:
A Very Scary Dream!
“Harry….Harry Wake Up Sweetheart.” Said A Familiar Voice. Harry Opened his eyes and saw his mother standing in Front of Him Shaking Him! “ You Are Dead Mum What in the Bloody Hell are you Doing Here?” Asked Harry. “Oh, My dear Harry You Must have had a very Scary Dream, I Mean with first Day Jitters and all.” Said Lilly. “What do You Mean by “First Day Jitters” Mum?” Harry Asked. “ Oh Harry don’t be silly You Start at Hogwarts today and you know it Dad is ready to take you off to Hogwarts to start your musical Education.” Said Lilly. “Okay Mum, but iv’e already graduated from Hogwarts.” Said Harry “ Geez, Harry You must of have had a really wild Dream, now get up silly and come downstairs and get ready to go with Dad.” Said Lilly. As Harry Descended the stairs he realized that He was having a dream, and that he was starting at Hogwarts this morning. “ Hi Dad, Harry said as he arrived downstairs, are you ready to take me to King Cross Station today?” “Yes, Son You Are going to Absolutley love Hogwarts it’s going to be awesome you Will Just Adore Proffessor Black.” Said James. “ Oh, James Stop it Harry Knows how much he is going to enjoy his Godfather Sirius Being His Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher, You’ve told him enough, you have got to leave some surprises.” Said Lilly. “ Sirius, is Not Dead Dad?” asked Harry. “ Why of course not he’s your Godfather and he is most absolutely alive!” Said James. “Oh, I just thought he had died in the Department Of Mysteries.” Said Harry. “ How do you Know about the Department Of Mysteries?” Asked James And Lilly Together. “ It’s a long story I Dreampt it last night.” Said Harry And He told his Parents everything He told them hold Lord Voldemort had Killed them both but was unable to Kill Harry, He told them about the Chamber Of Secrets and Riddle’s Diary. He told them how he thought Sirius Black was a traitor and how he discovered he was not, He told them of Him being the 4th Hogwarts Champion for the Triwizard Tournament, He Told him How he had discoved the Department Of Mysteries and how Sirius had died, He told them of The Half-Blood Prince and How Severus Snape had Killed Albus Dumbledore, and He Told Them How he prevailed over The Dark Lord Voldemort, and He told them how Surprised when Mum Had Woke him up that Morning and told him that he was starting his first year at Hogwarts that very day. He also Told him that he had dreampt of not being the center of everyone’s attention and how happy he was now to have it! “ Wow, Harry You Had a rough night , what a scary dream yes, you will lead a normal life now , you must go back upstairs now and get your trunk and Hedwig and we can high tail it off to Kings Cross Station.” Said James. Harry went racing off up stairs and when he came back down , His Dad Said. “ Kiss Your Mum Goodbye for she will not be joining us on our trip to Kings Cross Station.” Said James. “ Bye Mum I will see you In June, I Can’t wait to Get to Hogwarts and Make Friends.” Said Harry then He Pecked his Mum on the cheek and ran out the door with Hedwig running after his Dad. “ Okay Harry When We get to Kings Cross You will Board your Train At Platform 9 ¾ .” Said James. “ Yes, Dad I Know .” Said Harry. “ Alright, then Harry I will See You At the End of Term.” Said James. “ Goodbye Dad I will see you at the end of term too.” Said Harry ,and with that Went through the Barrier and Boarded the Hogwarts Express looking for Ron Weasley And Hermione Granger. He Found them By themselves in a 3 person Compartment. “ Um.. Excuse me everywhere else is filled up may I join you here in this Compartment?” Asked Harry Cautiously. “ Yes, You May I’m Hermione Granger and this is Ronald Weasly, Were going to be First years at Hogwarts this year.” Said Hermione. “And Who Might You Be?” Asked Ron. “ I’m Harry Potter and I’m going to be a first year this year too.” Said Harry. “anything off the trolley Dears?” Asked the Concession Witch. “No I’m set.” Said Ron. “We’ll Take the lot!” Retorted Harry. Harry Then Opened a chocolate Frog And saw Tom Riddle on it the inscription on the Back said: Tom Riddle is most commonly known as the Headmaster at Hogwarts school of Witchcraft and Wizardry. He is also famous for his defeat of the Dark Wizard Dumbledore in 1945! Harry Finished reading with a very scandoulus look on his Face. “ Is Tom Riddle Really The Headmaster at Hogwarts Hermione?” asked Harry. “yes, the best Headmaster Hogwarts has ever seen.” Said Hermione. As the train reached Hogwarts Harry Got off of the train and saw Hagrid Calling “ Firs’ years, Firs’ years this way please!” “ Hello Hagrid, I’m Harry Lilly and James’s Son.” Said Harry Properly Introducing himself. “ Ah, I Thought you Would be coming this year, you know that you have been down since you were born to Come to this very fine institution and you will be under the best Headmaster We here at Hogwarts has ever see Mr. Thomas Riddle.” Said Hagrid. Harry was excited crossing the lake there it was the place he had always considered a second home and he was going back to do it all over again. They Walked through the front doors and saw that Proffessor Minerva Mcgonagal was standing waiting for them to Arrive. “ Welcome to Hogwarts, Now in just a few moments we will go through those doors and join your classmates but first you will need to be sorted. Harry, Neville, Ron, Hermione were all sorted into Gryffindor. Draco Malfoy Crabbe and Goyle were all sorted into Ravenclaw whitch gave Harry a laugh! The Year went By very uneventfully, and then On the last day Harry Was very excited to Get Back Home To Godric’s Hollow! “See You Next Year Ron, You Too Hermione.” Said Harry. As they arrived at Kings Cross. “ Hi Harry, Hi Harry.” Said James And Lilly together. “ Are you ready to Go Home Sweetie?” Asked Lilly. “ Yes, Mom For the First time in my life I Can Say Yes!” And So Ends The Saga Of Harry James Potter!
Posted on August 31, 2005 05:01 PM | #
That is my Version of The last chapter of Harry Potter And The Fortress Of Shadows! It is one of the better ones in my book I’m sorry to say, I can’t Believe that I actually Wrote it I’m usually good at writing but this is one of the best thing I have ever written!
Posted on August 31, 2005 05:06 PM | #
No offense or anything, but I really doubt that Harry was dreaming.
BTW, Crookshanks is part cat part Kneazle.
Posted on August 31, 2005 06:09 PM | #
that was kind of far fetched, but i kinda want to see other chapters.
Posted on August 31, 2005 07:10 PM | #
hey trevor if you’ve got something to say then just say it. You could get anyones name from the book and twist it round…
What the hell was that about brian! Come on freE prove to them ollivander is not evil. See u on the 7th book archive when i’ll be laughing when it turns out i was right and trevor was wrong. What do you know you have the name of nevilles frog…….
Posted on September 1, 2005 03:56 AM | #
that was…okay….im not gonna bag ur work that u r so proud of =]
tho i do agree it in farfetched and y is there cap. letters everywhere? and wth happened to dumbledore…and u cramed alot of crap in one chapter and it wasnt as harry pottery u noe?…..its funni u thought of it at skool…..very creative!!! w00t w00t!!!!!!!!!!! okai im done =]
good work buddi
Posted on September 1, 2005 03:58 AM | #
Brian how is tthat the best thing youi’ve written!
You put an excalamation mark after it said lily was shaking him! why.
I can’t be bothered to read it cos it’s all jumbled it up.
Posted on September 1, 2005 03:59 AM | #
ok so in the trailer for goblet of fire fleur delacour is not at all how i imagined. Shes meant to be half veela and veela and meant to be the most beautiful women. I could find anyone more beautiful than her. geeze
Also cyberjohn please drop ollivander all i will laugh at u when i finish teh 7th book and we never hear from ollivander again. Mu ha mu ha, a bit like that yeah.
Posted on September 1, 2005 04:02 AM | #
If your gonna write loads of stuff
leave gaps
between new topics
tee
hee
Posted on September 1, 2005 04:03 AM | #
hey trevor how old are you, did u learn english. I found another mistake. Harry asks “is tom riddle the headmaster at school” then you wrote on the same line, “Yes the best there is”
If there is a conversation u use a new line each time someone talks. frog…
Posted on September 1, 2005 04:05 AM | #
well i can’t talk can i trevor look at all the mistakes i make, wink
Posted on September 1, 2005 04:06 AM | #
man, jack u can b so mean…
i mean…its not like he hasta rite good. not good enough for u eh? well..he probably just did it from scratch and didnt have time to put the rite puntual and grammar stuff in. Didnt hafta bag him so much.
Posted on September 1, 2005 05:36 AM | #
“The Kneazle…A small cat-like creature…the Kneazle is intelligent, independent and occasionaly aggresive, though if it takes a liking to a witch or wizard, it makes an excellent pet. The Kneazle has an uncanny ability to detect unsavoury or suspicious characters…”
From one of JKR’s comic relief books.
Posted on September 1, 2005 05:45 AM | #
If it was written thoroughly:
The seemingly familiar voice difted through harry potter’s ear and woke him up from what seemed like a dream. “Harry…harry. Wake up sweetheart,” the voice murmured. Though he hadn’t seen his mother in real life he knew straight away it was his her, Lily Potter, shaking him awake.
[im gonna change the lines a bit sorry]
“Mum….? Is it really you or have i gone mad coz Dumbledore died?” asked harry in a weary voice.
“Oh, my dear baby. you must have has a scary dream (note: nightmare?). I mean first day and jitter and all (note: wtf is jitter?),” she asked in a concerned voice. Harry blinked at her in confusion, “First day jitters….?”
“ Oh Harry don’t be silly You Start at Hogwarts today and you know it Dad is ready to take you off to Hogwarts to start your musical Education,” said harry’s mother.
[okay this sentence i dunt get so ill just leave it]
[waitamintute….im confused bout this part as well….]
Harry descended slowly downstairs where he meet his also “never-seen-in-real-life” father.
“Hi dad,” he said casually though he was surprised to see James Potter……………………………..
okai ive made it my version of Brians thing but u get the point
Posted on September 1, 2005 05:54 AM | #
Jack, i will bet you a buncha munny that Ollivander will be the #1 important character (or pretty important) in the next book. why do you ignore that his name spells AN EVIL LORD? how retarded are you? i want to see a raise of hands who thinks Ollivander is AN EVIL LORD.
(hand)
Posted on September 1, 2005 02:52 PM | #
u dunt get anything if it doesnt have ur opinion in it OR about ginny weasly and bonnie wright
Posted on September 1, 2005 05:23 PM | #
Some Lords do have Lords working for them. Just, minor Lords who oppress others (but still working for the main Lord). These minor Lords would be used for large numbers to keep better control. Just so you know.
Now, I’m not sure if Ollivander is good or bad, but he will probably be in a fair part of book 7
Posted on September 1, 2005 06:05 PM | #
Everybody: What if only Harry’s scar is a horcrux? I first thought of his glasses, but he was too young to wear them when their parents were
killed. Is it to far-fetched?
Posted on September 1, 2005 06:15 PM | #
What if Voldemort used one of his horcruxes all ready. It said in like book four or something that when the avada kadavara spell backfired off Harry and on to Voldemort he should have died?
Posted on September 1, 2005 07:01 PM | #
lol…soz cyber….that earlier comment wasnt for you =P just understood wat i wrote….um…ollivander COULD b AN EVIL LORD….i dunno…lets c wat pplz think
Posted on September 2, 2005 02:34 AM | #
Something huge will be revealed about Lily in book 7. That is confirmed information. do you think she is related to snape.
Posted on September 2, 2005 08:12 AM | #
woh woh cut the slag… i really just think that his name is a coincidence, hey if i’m wrong the drinks are on me.
Posted on September 2, 2005 01:52 PM | #
Well, Guys i’m sorry that you didn’t like my story but you hurt my feelings in pointing out errors i mean when i read i had put ” You start today at Hogwarts for your musical education”I just had to laugh! But I do see how i crammed a lot into one Chapter but do remember that it was the last one and that there were more Chapters! So If i sounded rude i’m sorry! Jitters are nervous twitches of the Brain!So I’m Putting the idea out there that Maybe Everyone who wants to should write the last chapter of their own HP7 so we can all be inspired and excited! Tell me What you think ok?
Posted on September 2, 2005 03:19 PM | #
Is nobody going to Respond to my post?
Posted on September 2, 2005 06:56 PM | #
ill point out that i defended u so….meh. oooo lilly sumthing big sumthing yeah. w00t cant wait =]
Posted on September 2, 2005 07:35 PM | #
i dunt realli hav time to rite…and not to offend u or anything but how old r u? [reasked by jack]
=] ill try and rite about hp if i hav time but pplz will bag it big time so meh.
w00t
every one have fUUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
Posted on September 2, 2005 07:37 PM | #
i dunt realli hav time to rite…and not to offend u or anything but how old r u? [reasked from jacks earlier q.]
=] ill try and rite about hp if i hav time but pplz will bag it big time so meh.
w00t
every one have fUUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!` adn put a smile on ur dile [wat a weird word]
Posted on September 2, 2005 07:38 PM | #
That really answered my question. -_-“
Well….HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL (if ur a dad that is)
And happy weekend to you brian ^^
Posted on September 3, 2005 02:56 AM | #
The drinks are on me brian, what you want?
New task:
Whoever can be bothered write your own version of the first chapter of teh 7th book. You can start anywhere. Try and make it readable and leave gaps. Don’t have it all jumbled together. Go brian go!
Posted on September 3, 2005 04:06 AM | #
It’s amazing to see how the story that grew in the brain of one single woman has impacted upon so many…
Continue to speculate, I love your theories!
Dumbledor’s alive,
his mentor, the MCS.
Posted on September 3, 2005 06:35 AM | #
YEAH MCS ROWLING MADE AN IMPACT…MANY OTHER PPLZ HAVE IN THIS WORLD BUT YEAH, SO JACK U GONNA WRITE UR OWN STORY?
Posted on September 3, 2005 06:45 AM | #
maybe, but it’s goona cost ya to read it. What does MCS stand for? or is it just a name?
Posted on September 3, 2005 09:16 AM | #
Hey,
just a stupid question: when harry “killed” voldemort at the age of one, didn’t he destroy a part of voldy’s soul already?
And why did dumbledore have a “glimpse of triumph” in the fourth book when harry told him that voldemort used his blood to reborn? (i don’t know the exact words i read hp in french…)
Posted on September 3, 2005 11:13 AM | #
Yes I thought that too but i think Harry will need to go and Kill Voldemort in the 7th book I thought that just the other day the idea of voldemort’s soul already being dead, and that his horcruxes are whats keeping him alive but now that I think about it i won’t happen beacuse J.K. Rowling has set it up for Harry and Voldemort to Clash in the 7th book, wait…. maybe Clash but not kill each other! What do you think? Let me know!
Posted on September 3, 2005 01:01 PM | #
I think since the piece of soul in his body is the main part, it can’t be destroyed until all the others are destroyed.
The “Gleam of Triumph” I also want to know, but I think it will only be told in book 7.
Brian, I think that Voldemort will in fact die in the book. It’s how how kids books end, with the bad guy dead.
Posted on September 3, 2005 01:25 PM | #
When voldemorts curse got rebounded by harry, a horcrux did not lose its share of the soul, neither did Voldemorts share of the soul.
Posted on September 3, 2005 01:51 PM | #
And, do you all think sirius is dead? I mean , they didn’t find a body ( i think) and no funeral.. Maybe I just can’t let go ;)
Posted on September 3, 2005 02:42 PM | #
about RAB, it must be regulus cuz there isn’t any new important caracters in the 7th book. Is snape evil or good? I’m not sure he has decided his side yet… maybe in the end he will face a dilemma and finaly help Harry. Don’t know…
voldemort has to die in the end but maybe harry IS a horcrux (that will not be destroyed) , that way voldemort will never be totally “gone”…
just an idea…
Lily and snape, little romance? I think so ;)
Posted on September 3, 2005 03:02 PM | #
member in the 3rd book when lupin sed ‘ur mother was there at a time like no other’ or sumting like dat, wah wuz he referring to, i cant member
Posted on September 3, 2005 03:49 PM | #
I think he was depressed because he didn’t like himself because he was a werewolf. Could be something else though.
Posted on September 3, 2005 05:51 PM | #
I like all of these comments (especially the chapters from Harry and Brian Pugh) well that’s all. lol
Posted on September 3, 2005 06:48 PM | #
Do you guys think that snape and lily had a thing going is that what you are saying?
Posted on September 3, 2005 08:23 PM | #
That’s only what I’m saying… Also, JK said somewhere (don’t remember when and where) that lupin had a “crush” on lily though james and remus never fought for her.
Posted on September 4, 2005 02:03 AM | #
you know u say, harry will beat voldermort and the world will be happy because its a childrens book. I really don’t think it is much of a childs book. The first three books mums and dads could read to their kids. Though now order of the phonex and half blood prince has alot of explaining in it.
Now these books have alot of talking from dumbledore, were talking 7 pages of just talking. Can u imagine a parent reading all that to a little kid, who doesn’t know how to read, so get’s their parents to do it!
Posted on September 4, 2005 05:35 AM | #
no it’s not, you haven’t even heard the song.
When you get to the bottom you go back to the top of the slide, then you get to teh bottom and i see u again!
Yeah, yeah , yeah!
Do u don’t u want me to love u, i’m coming down fast but i’m miles above you.
Tell me tell me come on tell me the answer. WELL U MAYBE A LOVER BUT U AIN@T NO DANCER!
HELTER SKELTER!
HELTER SKELTER!
HELTER SKELTER!oooooooo
THERE IS NO ROMANCE BETWEEN LILY AND SNAPE.
Posted on September 4, 2005 06:46 AM | #
when i get to the bottom i go back to the top of the slide then i stop and i turn and i go for a ride get to the bottom and i see u again!
Posted on September 4, 2005 06:47 AM | #
hey brian listen to the oasis helter skelter cover it is a bomb! you maybe a lover but you ain’t no dancer!
Posted on September 4, 2005 06:48 AM | #
why did dumbledore (in the 4th book) have a look of triumph when harry told hin that voldemort could touch him?
Posted on September 4, 2005 06:58 AM | #
i don’t know remind me what is going on in the page?
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:02 AM | #
is it because, voldermort can’t touch him because he is protected by love?
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:03 AM | #
because errrr, well i think this.
Harry is a horcrux so if voldermort can touch and kill him then bam, if harry has destroyed the other horcruxes voldermort will die if the last horcrux is destroyed. But voldermort doesn’t know harry is a horcrux…
Harry will come back to life and all who voldemort killed will come back. Not cedric though….
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:05 AM | #
anybody on???
also did someone say hermione was a werewolf earlier?
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:05 AM | #
I don’t think harry is a horcrux but im not sure, anyways the book keeps saying that no1 can come back to life. do u think this is true?
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:19 AM | #
i dont think harry is a horcrux but im not sure. anyways the book says that no one can come back to life. do u think this is true? o ya in the 4th book where dumbledore has a look of triumph is on page 696 in the american paperback version. what do u think about that too.
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:23 AM | #
hmmm read what i said before, interesting. I think there is a power voldermort gave to harry with that scar that he has not discovered yet.
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:37 AM | #
Can’t be because of that: Dumbledore didn’t know about the horcruxes before the slughorn memory thing… But maybe…
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:43 AM | #
oh come on kelly we all have our right to have our own opinion hey…
Ok the question on everyones mind. WHY DID DUMBLEDORE HAVE A GLEAM OF TRIUMPH WHEN HE FOUND OUT YOU KNOW WHO COULD TOCUH HARRY???
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:51 AM | #
huh? these american versions are crazy. The uk fourth book has got about 63o something pages. Geeze….
The lunatic is in the grass
And if the band should start playing different tunes. I’LL SEE U ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
Posted on September 4, 2005 08:14 AM | #
touch harry i meant. Not as many people are writing like before… Everyone is using msn. You’ll stick with me kelly?
Posted on September 4, 2005 08:14 AM | #
Do you think the American version is longer because they are stupider so she gave them more clues.
And kelly dumbledore did know about the horcruxes before slughorns memory because he knew about the diary being a horcrux in second year.
Posted on September 4, 2005 08:43 AM | #
yes i do! why do you think they call it sorceres stone, instead of philophosepher. Because they think sorcerer sounds better. But it’s about 50 more pages. It can’t all be clues
Posted on September 4, 2005 10:30 AM | #
huh? WOw u read it all. No itslyrics to the song. Yeah well you maybe be a lover but you ain’t no dancer!
Look out, helter skelter!
Shall we agree helter skelter is my word?
Do u don’t u want me to love u, yeaaaaaaah!
Originally done by the beatles.
Posted on September 4, 2005 11:24 AM | #
The American version are longer because the publisher leaves more information, most non-american peole think they leave more in because Americans are too stupid to understand unless it’s all in there. It’s also longer because I know they have pictures on each chapter (at least some versions do).
Posted on September 4, 2005 12:53 PM | #
I KNOW WHO R.A.B. IS!!!!!!!! It is Sirius’s brother, Regulas, who was supposedly killed by Voldemort. Also,this is my theory: snape is actually so good that, in order to fool voldemort into thinking he is bad, snape killed dumbledore. now voldemort will trust him and he willl know all of voldemort’s plans. in the end he and harry will team up and destroy voldemort. also, when dumbledore was drinking that nasty stuff, he was like, “save the chiildren, take me!” so i think he was foreseeing his death. and when he was like, “severus…please” i think he was asking snape to kill him, not to save him.
Posted on September 4, 2005 01:01 PM | #
Half of the people here must be on drugs. If 1% of these theories were true, it would be an 400000 page long book.
Posted on September 4, 2005 01:32 PM | #
woh sheena get with the times. We all know what RAB Is
Posted on September 4, 2005 01:50 PM | #
No, we don’t know, we suspect. But yeah, Jack, I think what she’s said has been posted about 500 times out of the 1213.
Posted on September 4, 2005 03:22 PM | #
lol. some of these comments are very ubsurd! i think jack should just stay off the site. but some of these theories seem inspiring. i’ll check back in.
Posted on September 4, 2005 07:56 PM | #
coolies!
oooo lily and lupin. i love lupin his cool cept i LOVED SIRIUS! he was the best. i was wiping my freaken snot off the book when he was dying.
*cries*
anyways….WAT?! lily and lupin? olala
so eveyone agrees that the american version is gay…so watcha think of the australian????
Posted on September 5, 2005 04:21 AM | #
coolies!
oooo lily and lupin. i love lupin his cool cept i LOVED SIRIUS! he was the best. i was wiping my freaken snot off the book when he was dying.
*cries*
anyways….WAT?! lily and lupin? olala
so eveyone agrees that the american version is (omg they dont let me use the word gay on the site -_-“) -ungood-…so watcha think of the australian????
IS THAT -UNGOOD- AS WELL?!
(w00t good msn!)
Posted on September 5, 2005 04:23 AM | #
Never knew there was an autralian. Thought there was only American and UK
Posted on September 5, 2005 07:22 AM | #
Hey, guess what every one! i suck! hahahahaha. and im homosexual.
Posted on September 5, 2005 08:01 AM | #
what do u mean i sbhould stay of the site. Sorry about the RAB but you were like ha i found it out! It’s regulus. What have i done wrong.
grrrr. I’ve stopped myself talking like an idiot and am now talking on topic. geeze.
Wouldn’t it be great to be wa wizard. Just apparate anywhere…
Posted on September 5, 2005 09:08 AM | #
I think people who impersonate others are stupid
Posted on September 5, 2005 11:23 AM | #
ohhhhhhh man. well this site is now useless. no more good ideas and homosexual retards. that one comment from jack creacked me up.
Posted on September 5, 2005 11:46 AM | #
Jack, why am I a legend?
Now, on subject people… Umm, Harry will kill Voldy, and umm, Harry will screw Ginny …
Posted on September 5, 2005 12:08 PM | #
huh. By the way i didn’t write that it was some loser. I don’t think harry will kill voldermort because it will be classed as murder. I don’t think harry is ever going to kill anyone. Has he killed anyone?
Posted on September 5, 2005 12:28 PM | #
jack i know you did not write it because the person who wrote it was Jack, with a capital J, while your name jack does not have capital j.
There are some good ideas. Everyone should refresh their memories and come back with good comments.
Posted on September 5, 2005 01:12 PM | #
wow your write freE, that guy’s an idiot. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Ok. Well i don’t think harry will kill voldermort because it would then mean that in his life he killed someone.
I really don’t think harry will kill voldermort but voldermort will be gone in a different way. like tom riddle with the diary.
Posted on September 5, 2005 01:18 PM | #
hello guys i suck. and i love the harry potter cast. not just ginny but i think the actor who is harry is scrumptious too. i get first dibs on h im
Posted on September 5, 2005 05:48 PM | #
ok theres no aussie version of hp then which one am i reading??? uk or usa? -anymore ideas?- =]
Posted on September 5, 2005 10:31 PM | #
neville probably would do sumthing big in ta end…i mean….yeah….thats my lame idea for the day. and hum…wat else….if rab is siris’ bro then….wat? his dead…rite….i dunt memeber -_-” yeah he probably is….wat a jackass taking it!
ok im gonna go cry in my pillow
TELL ME WHICH BOOK IM READING….cept mother is eplt mUm not mOm so its probably uk…w00t go england! american ur ok ;]
Posted on September 5, 2005 10:45 PM | #
waaa i’m a chav waaaaa i’m a chv. I’m lonely and know nothing about harry potter. I just come on to random archives and read peoples writing.
Must be because i’m a chav! waaaa i’m lonely please hug me preferably a boy. waaaaaa. geeze
Posted on September 6, 2005 11:36 AM | #
flippin heck don’t need to cry out… geeze. Alright who thinks harry is a horcrux?
Posted on September 6, 2005 11:38 AM | #
hmmmm. You all say ollivander name coming out as an evil lord. I really don’t think rowling would do the same trick twice…
Posted on September 6, 2005 12:17 PM | #
well, jack you sound a little schizophrenic, you should get some help, but i really do think Ollivander is an evil lord, don’t know what’s wrong with you guys. just stop hating.
Posted on September 6, 2005 02:08 PM | #
hum…lemme c….it has …608 pages! voila so tell me easter which one i have =]
thanks buddy
and *clears throat*
i dunt really oppose to the ollivander thing…it COULD b tru…
Posted on September 6, 2005 02:55 PM | #
so……uk?
how is the us version, not as good…does it have more pgs?
Posted on September 6, 2005 03:30 PM | #
u have UK
The US version has pictures (as far as I know) and has extra lines that the UK publisher took out because they weren’t neccesary or gave too much information.
Posted on September 6, 2005 03:50 PM | #
People, people. The American version is longer just because of the font size. That’s it!
Posted on September 6, 2005 04:04 PM | #
okay guys i’ll fess up, this is the real jafck and i really am gay. so there i got it out. my therapist said i should stop pretending im schizophrenis. im sorry for the confusion.
Posted on September 6, 2005 04:14 PM | #
Paty, no. The American version does have more lines.
Posted on September 6, 2005 07:13 PM | #
ic ic
so the american version has and i quote “more information…”
oooo isnt that…better?
or are all americans blind have have extra extra large fonts?
PICTURE! i like pictures =]
Posted on September 7, 2005 01:47 AM | #
No way. The book i’ve got Uk is 766 pages. No pictures just the oridnary version.
Posted on September 7, 2005 09:47 AM | #
Sorry for insulting jack. Must be because i’m homosexual and lonely. I feel that i should confess and not go on.
I need a hug, preferably of a boy. Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Hi i’m john and i live in cyberspace and am surrounded by man. A dream come true for me!
Posted on September 7, 2005 09:50 AM | #
Hi im gay. But yet i’m a homophonic. PHOENIX ANY SUGGESTIONS?
I don’t why i called jack gay. probably because it’s the only insult i know and yet it doesn’t do any offence because i know he’s not gay. Anyone interested in me?
Posted on September 7, 2005 09:54 AM | #
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahi i’m gay
Posted on September 7, 2005 10:58 AM | #
Will you people stop impersonating others?
The American version does have “more information”
UK Version
“He told me to do it or he’ll kill me. I’ve got not choice.” “Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine. What is more, I can send members of the Order to your mother tonight to hide her likewise. Your father is safe at the moment in Azkaban…when the time comes we can protect him too…come over to the right side, Draco…you are not a killer…” Malfoy stared at Dumbledore. (HBP UK Edition pg 552)
American Version:
“He told me to do it or he’ll kill me. I’ve got no choice.” “He cannot kill you if you are already dead. Come over to the right side Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine. What is more, I can send members of the Order to your mother tonight to hide her likewise. Nobody would be surprised that you had died in your attempt to kill me – forgive me, but Lord Voldemort probably expects it. Nor would the Death Eaters be surprised that we had captured and killed your mother – it is what they would do themselves, after all. Your father is safe at the moment in Azkaban…When the time comes we can protect him too. Come over to the right side, Draco…you are not a killer…” Malfoy stared at Dumbledore. (HBP US Edition pg 591)
Note that the UK version has about 3 extra sentences in that paragraph alone. Also note, that the book is already 39 pages longer at this part of the novel.
Posted on September 7, 2005 12:55 PM | #
straight of teh site eh. The americans kinda need more clues. So they keep all the stuff she got rid of. SOme of the clues she did mean to throw out because they were give aways. America eh.
Posted on September 7, 2005 01:11 PM | #
What the crap? Jack, i don’t know who is impersonating you but i just thought he was kinda funny. sorry about that no hard feelings. maybe it’s that Kansas kid or somthing. i don’t know. but i hope we find the impersonating guy. it sounds like he’s been impersonating mrguy too.
Posted on September 7, 2005 03:03 PM | #
Probably, someone else has already said this, I didn’t read the whole thread. Still, I wanted to say that I disagreee with Ward’s theory of Dumbledore still being alive. When Snape hit Dumbledore with the Avara Kedavra spell, Harry was able to move again (let’s remember he was paralyzed silently by Dumbledore before Malfoy hit him with his Expelliarmus spell). As Rowling said in her book, there was only one way Harry’s paralyzation could be lifted, given the circumstances. I know some of you will say that Dumbledore could have lifted the spell, but let’s also remember he was wandless. Just a thought…
Posted on September 7, 2005 11:39 PM | #
um….yeah…no suggestions to the impersonator of the cyberjohn guy…no thanks. if anyone wants to….conduct….um…homosexual…ah…activities…im im not the person…to…ask to do it with…
anyways….i am confused…so the uk version is MY version aka 608 pages long version….rite???
ooo i wouldnt mind gettin the us version tho i already got all the clues *wink wink*
im also confused….i quote easter, “Note that the UK version has about 3 extra sentences in that paragraph alone. Also note, that the book is already 39 pages longer at this part of the novel.”
does that mean that the UK version is more longer then the us? i thought it was vice-versa, other way round.
–” i am so confused! my lil question of which one is longer is not answered yet..
Posted on September 8, 2005 03:28 AM | #
who is imporsanating???????????????????????
You will get a reward if you own up.
Posted on September 8, 2005 09:12 AM | #
cyberjohn you think i was impersonating you. geeze!
Posted on September 8, 2005 10:32 AM | #
Easter, did you take the quotations from the printed versions or from internet downloaded versions?
Posted on September 8, 2005 03:22 PM | #
From www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com the person who made the site has the American version
Posted on September 8, 2005 06:40 PM | #
no one answered my question….
*cries*
ooo im all ears bout the reward *glares*
are we talking bout chohclate coz i have connections…..*eyebrows up n down*
*cough willi wonka cough*
ANSWER QUESTION…..whats my question…..i dunno…wo cares…ok then ill go -_-“
Posted on September 9, 2005 01:47 AM | #
wow i think i’ve got a lot of catching up to do. if anyone wants to see alot of my ideas start at about post 163-188. if u want more from me i’m in posts 188-600 or so.
Posted on September 9, 2005 06:12 PM | #
kansas youre back. when you were gon eit was just jack suckin the butt sweat up and trying to molest children
Posted on September 9, 2005 08:15 PM | #
anybody here. or i could just dissapear for another two weeks
Posted on September 9, 2005 08:57 PM | #
who was sucking up the wat now???
hello kansas =]
Posted on September 9, 2005 09:13 PM | #
waht the… me you little french
Posted on September 10, 2005 01:56 AM | #
I was the one who impersonsted cyberjohn. But i was not the one who impersonated myself. I still don’t know who it is. I only impersonated cyberjohn because i thought he was the one who impersonated me. bitchin
Posted on September 10, 2005 04:18 AM | #
Guys get back on topic and use real names. Not names like ME. Either leave the site or talk about the book
Posted on September 10, 2005 04:21 AM | #
im me~!!
so harry potter eh?
ummm gimme a topic bout him and talk bout it!!!
BRING IT ON!
i am the one and only phoenix and sumone impersonate me…pfft….they wont b able to pull it off coz im too good =D
Posted on September 10, 2005 04:59 AM | #
im me~!!
so harry potter eh?
ummm gimme a topic bout him and talk bout it!!!
BRING IT ON!
i am the one and only phoenix and sumone impersonate me…pfft….they wont b able to pull it off coz im too good =D
oh! jack impersonated cyberjohn =0
my search is over then….but who OR whom is impersonating jack…mission switched bak on!
Posted on September 10, 2005 05:00 AM | #
crap….man i suk =P
dammit posted wrong ;_; *cries*
Posted on September 10, 2005 05:03 AM | #
is kansas really back. Do you have any more ideas.
Posted on September 10, 2005 01:39 PM | #
Chapter 1:
Sneaking Out
“Hi Harry!” Ginny exclaimed as Harry apparated into the Weasly’s lot. She walked up to him and kissed him. Just then Ron and Hermione came out.
“Hi Harry,” Ron and Hermione said together.
“Hey guys!” Harry replied, “Good to see you all. I just passed my apparation test!”
“Good job!” Hermione said.
“Lets go inside,” Ginny said. As soon as they went inside Mrs.Weasly pulled Harry into a hug.
“Oh Harry Dear!” Mrs.Weasly said with tears in her eyes, ”We got your trunk this morning but we didn’t know when you were arriving. We haven’t even gotten a proper chance to talk to you after Albus died! How are you?”
“I’m fine thanks Mrs.Weasly,” Harry replied.
“Lets go upstairs guys,” Ron said, ”You can unpack.”
“Yeah lets go up,” Harry said as they went up the stairs. Once they got to the top floor where Ron’s room was Harry and Ginny kissed each other. For the first time since Dumbledore died Harry felt like there was nothing to worry about.
“How are you Harry?” Ginny said,” We were so worried about you! Ron and Hermione told me about your plan and…” Harry quickly glared at the two of them,” and we weren’t sure if you were going to leave without us.”
“What do you mean us?” Harry exclaimed,” You aren’t coming!”
“Harry I am coming whether you like it or not!” Ginny replied. The truth was that Harry wanted her to come. It was just that he knew that it would be dangerous and he didn’t want her to get hurt. He also knew that Mrs.Weasly no matter what she said would never forgive him if anything happened to Ginny and Ron. Well Ginny more than Ron…
“It is WAY to dangerous!’ Harry exclaimed,” I don’t want you to get hurt!”
“Harry…” Ron started,” She has been training with us for the last month since Hermione got here. There is a lift on the Underage Restriction for us because the Ministry knows we are in the War so they think that we ant to train. She is actually getting pretty good at it!”
“Fine you can come,” said Harry grumpily.
“Thanks Harry!” Ginny exclaimed. She stood up and kissed him quickly and left the room.
“You had better get unpacked Harry,” Hermione said. It is pretty hectic here with Bill and Fleur’s wedding approaching.”
“Okay I will start”
Ron and Hermione left the room quickly. He could here their voices but couldn’t make out what they were saying. A couple of minutes later they cam back in.
“Harry…” Hermione said with a sort of a worried expression on her face.
“We have to tell you something mate,” Ron finished for her.
“What?” Harry asked with a puzzled expression on his face.
“Well me and Hermione…” Ron started, ”Well we kind of like each other.”
“What do you mean?” Harry asked looking even more puzzled than before, ”Are you guys going out?”
“Well…” Hermione said, ” Yes.”
“HA!” Harry said with a triumphant look on his face.
“What?” Ron asked confused as Harry had before.
“ I always knew there was something between you guys!” Harry for once had the rare feeling of happiness, ”Ron,” Harry said now with a slightly worried expression on his face.
“What is it mate?” Ron asked looking worried, ”Is something wrong?”
“No…” Harry said, ”Well does your mum know that you and Ginny are coming with me to look for the Horcruxes? Will she even let you?”
“No,” Ron said flatly, ”Ginny and I know that she won’t let us. So we are going to sneak out. Is that okay mate?”
“Okay,” Harry said, ”Yeah, sure it is fine. And by the way when is Bill and Fleur’s wedding?”
“ Harry! Ron!” Hermione exclaimed, ”How can you think of going without telling your mom? It is so dangerous!”
“ Hermione,” Ron said now looking angry, “We both made a promise to Harry that we would stick with him whatever it takes! I don’t know about you but I am sticking to that promise. And we both know that Harry wants Ginny to come along and you also have seen how good she is!”
“ Thanks for sticking with me mate,” Harry said to Ron with a grateful expression on his face, ” And speaking of how good Ginny is I still want to see how good she is. And does your mum know that we are going out?”
“ Yeah,” said Ron now in a more casual tone, “She was so proud of Ginny when she told her, “ I reckon it is the only thing that is keeping her from cracking up. Especially with Perce in the hospital…”
“What!” Harry exclaimed, ”What happened to him?”
“Oh you don’t know?” Ron asked, ”Well you see after Rufus Scrimogeur came with him to our house to talk to you Percy came back and made up with mum and dad. But he still reckoned it was time to move out so he stayed in the apartment. A couple weeks, as soon as school ended, he was coming to visit us but first made a stop at Hogwarts to pay his resects to Dumbledore. But since you cannot apparate on the grounds he apparated into Hogsmeade. But what he didn’t know was there was a Death Eater attack on the village. When he got there he was recognized as the Junior Undersecretary to the Minister. So when he quickly tried to Apparate out the Death Eaters caught him. They put some kind of spell on him and left him on the grounds of Hogwarts. Now he is in a kind of a trance.”
“ Wow,” Harry said with a sad look on his face, “ You guys did you see? Mundugus got sent to Azkaban for selling some of those medals! And guess what I realized! The real Horcruxe locket was in Sirius’s house. Remember when I came and we were cleaning out the room there was that locket that we couldn’t open? That was probably it!”
“Wow! Harry,” Hermione said happily, “That was a clever deduction!”
“But there is one small problem,” Harry said looking a bit dejected.
“ What is it mate?” Ron asked looking confused.
“ Dung nicked the locket!” Harry said angrily, ” That was one of the things that he took. And now with no Dementors guarding the prison he will be out in no time!”
“Oh didn’t you here mate?” Ron asked, ”The Ministry put guards at the prison! So he won’t get out.”
“ But how do we see him? Well we can get in without Dementors.” Harry said answering his own question.
“Yeah,” said Hermione, “It will be pretty easy without Dementors… Well Harry it has been two weeks! What did you do? We haven’t heard from you at all.”
“ Well…” started Harry, “ I went to the Dursleys and stayed there for a week. Then I went to Godric’s Hollow…”
“What!” exclaimed Ron, “ I thought you were going there with us!”
“Well yes to investigate,” Harry said, “ But I just wanted to spend some time alone. You know what I mean?”
“Yes we understand Harry,” Hermione said kindly throwing dirty looks at Ron.
“ Well I still had one week left and I met some of my parent’s neighbors and stayed with them for four days. We are going to stay there when we go…”
“How did you get there?” Hermione asked.
“Well I went on the Knight Bus.” Harry answered, “Well anyways after that I took the Knight Bus to the Ministry because Scrimogeur invited me. I stayed there until this morning when he said he was sorry for asking me what he did at the end of the year. He also personally took me to my test. I passed. He also sent my trunk here. Then after I got a Butterbeer I came here.”
“ Wow,” said Hermione looking surprised, “ Oh yeah. Bill and Fleur’s wedding is tomorrow if we are going to sneak out I suggest we just pack except for the basics. So we can leave after the wedding.”
“ Okay I will just get the basics out,” said Harry looking surprised that Hermione agreed to sneak out.
“ Harry! Ron! Hermione!” came Mrs.Weasly’s voice, “ Dinner is ready!”
“ We are coming mum!” Ron replied. Dinner that night was a very enjoyable affair. Harry didn’t even think about all his troubles. The next morning he was awoken at ten o’clock by Mrs.Weasly.
“Time to get ready dear.”
“Mmm…” Harry said groggily, “S’time already?”
“Yes dear.”
“Okay I’m up.” Harry said. But by the time he really got up Mrs.Weasly had already left, “ Hey Ron. Where are Fred and George? I haven’t seen them at all.”
“Well they are with Percy,” Ron said, “They still fell guilty that Dumbledore died. Their Peruvian Darkness Powder”
“Oh,” said Harry, “ well will they be here for the wedding?”
“Oh yeah,” said Ron, “They should be leaving about now.” The whole day was very enjoyable for Harry. When it was finally time for the wedding Harry, Ginny, Ron, and Hermione all sat in the front. The wedding was very happy. When the wedding was finally over Harry kissed Ginny and Ron kissed Hermione.
“ We have to leave soon,” muttered Harry under his breath.
“ I know we will pretend to go to bed and then we will meet outside at eleven,” said Ron, “ Use Muffliato on all the doors except for ours and Ginny and Hermione’s when we are going up. Okay?”
“Okay,” said Harry. They went upstairs and waited finally it was eleven. When Harry knocked on Hermione’s and Ginny’s door., Ginny opened it and they went out silently, “Wait Ron, have you passed the apparation test yet?”
“ No,” said Ron slightly blushing.
“ Okay then what we will do is you go with Hermione and I will take Ginny we will go to Godric’s Hollow. Hermione you just have to keep a finger on me because you don’t know how it looks.”
And so the journey began…
Chapter one of the Book that I posted a while a go!
Posted on September 10, 2005 03:40 PM | #
I liked that chapter much more than your last chapter. I liked this one.
Posted on September 10, 2005 04:16 PM | #
SHIT! so much!
havent read it yet…wait…just woke up…ill read it laters. From the sounds of it, i should read it now….ok ill start cracking. SO MUUCH!
Posted on September 10, 2005 06:01 PM | #
omg that was good *pats brian on the back*
i liked it alot cept the part where harry prefered ginney ova ron is sumthing i dunt like ginny
and y does ron say mate alot???
okai that was good keep it up =]
Posted on September 10, 2005 06:16 PM | #
Ok, You Seemed to Enjoy my Writing I will Post More!Chapter Two
Godric’s Hollow!
Harry Felt That Unusual Feeling of Being Sucked Through A Tube! He Felt His Feet Hit Hard on the ground And Smiled, He was Home, Godric’s Hollow and He Had His Two Best Friends and His Girl To Enjoy The Experience with Him, “ I’m So Elated That You Are Here with Me Ron, Hermione, and Ginny, Now We must Go Down this path a ways, we need To Get To The Evans!” “Wait Harry Hermione said with a start , But wasn’t that Your Mother’s Maiden Name? “ Yep Said Harry it turns out I Have a Grandfather, He Got Remarried after my Grandmother Died, He didn’t know I Had survived Voldemort’s Attack. His Name is Aldie Wolworth Evans. Said Harry. “Do they know we are coming ?” Asked Ron And Ginny Together. “ Yes, They are very Happy to Have us.” Said Harry. “Ah yes, Here We Are Guys.” Said Harry. They Turned The Corner and saw the most decriepet Hunk Of junk they ever saw, it discrased the name of houses, even though it was a Mansion in it’s Prime! “Wait Till You see inside, It’s Amazing!” Said Harry and with that He Pecked Ginny on the Cheek And Knocked on the door! The Man Who Answered it looked ancient. He had Skin Sagging down from his neck. Had Eyeglasses Two Sizes to big for his face and Was walking with a Cane! “ Oh Oh, Oh Harry my sport so these are you friends you Must Be the Brightest Witch in Harry’s Class, and kissed Hermione on the hand! And You must Be Harry’s Best mate Ron Weasley, and you Deary Must Be My Grandson’s Girlfriend Ginny Weasly, Come in, Come in and Meet Roberta.” Said Aldie and all Four of them Followed Him Into The House! And What A house it was Ron, Hermione,and Ginny Didn’t think it was the same house they were in front of only a few minutes ago! When you walked in , You right away saw a grand Staircase descending from the second floor, you also were greeted by the feeling of warmth the feeling of Happiness and of Family! You Felt like you wanted to Stay there your entire life! “ Lets go Upstairs Guys that’s where were staying, just like at The Burrow.” Said Harry. But When they Got upstairs they saw a Red Enveloped Addressed To Ronald And Ginny Weasly Mr Evans House Godric’s Hollow! It Was a Howler, “Better open it guys, For You know it gets worse when you ignore it! Said Harry. When they opened it they all heard the unmistakable voice of Molly Weasly. HOW DARE YOU LEAVE WITHOUT TELLING ME , YOU COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED YOU ARE IN SO MUCH TROUBLE, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH I’M DISSAPOINTED IN YOU GINNY ,AND RON I DON’T KNOW WHAT I’M GOING TO DO WITH YOU! And with that the howler Burned its self down to ashes. “ Well Better to Get that out of the way.” Said Ron Very Casually. “ I Told You So Ronald, Your Mother Would of Let you go if you had just told her, You Wouldn’t have had to go through a howler! Said Hermione. Just Then Roberta Shouted “ Dinner.” Up the stairs and Harry Ron Hermione and Ginny all went down to dinner! While At dinner Harry Noticed that His Grandfather was Drinking Out Of a Chalice that had a Badger on Every side, When Harry Realized what he was looking at , He could Not Resist the Urge But Shouted,” WHERE IN THE BLOODY HELL DID YOU GET THAT?” “What my boy ?” Asked Aldie. “ That chalice that you are drinking out of right now, Where Did you Get It?” Asked Harry again. “Well Said Aldie your Parents Gave it To Me right before they died they told me to keep it safe for it was very valuable.” “Damn right it is said Harry It’s One of Voldemort’s Horcruxes.” Said Harry With Ferver. And with that he whipped it out of his Grandfather’s Hands And Smashed it on the Ground ,a Silver smoke Came Up Through it Telling Harry His Mission was complete. “ Sorry About That, Ron, Hermione, Ginny our task is done, we leave first thing in the morning.” Said Harry.
Chapter 3:
Azkaban
“Let’s go guys,” Harry said the next morning, “So now we have Helga’s goblet destroyed, the diary destroyed, and the Ring destroyed. We still have to find the locket, something of Gryffindor’s, we have to get Nagini and then we can kill Voldermort. We have to go to King’s Cross.”
“Wait Harry,” said Ginny with a surprised look on her face, ”I thought we weren’t going back to school.”
“We aren’t, I also wrote to McGonagall saying that we all had to do something and we would just come to get people and she said okay. The only reason we are going to Hogwarts is because I want Neville, Luna and anybody else in DA to help if they want to. And then we go to Azkaban to see Mundugus.”
They all apparated to an alley by King’s Cross. When they got there and through the barrier there were mumbles of greeting to all of them from there fellow seventh and Ginny’s sixth year friends.
“Oh yeah,” said Ron, “Don’t tell anybody this but the apparation jinx isn’t there anymore because only Dumbledore knew and now that he is…gone nobody knows what to do so they are just keeping it quiet.”
The train journey passed uneventfully. When they got to Hogwarts they had a normal dinner not the usual feast. Then they went and slept. The next day they made a plan, they would recruit everybody they could and then leave in the night. They got two other people, Neville and Luna.
Neville and Luna both had passed their Apparation tests so they could Apparate. Ron also passed his apparation test that day so only Ginny had to go with Harry. That night they got ready to leave.
“ Wait Harry,” said Neville, “Do any of us know what Azkaban looks like?”
“Well Hermione and I do,” said Harry.
“I do to.” said Luna’s dreamy voice.
“Ok then,” said Harry, “Neville you go with Luna. Ron go with Hermione and Ginny will go with me.”
Once again Harry felt the unpleasant sensation of being sucked through a tube.
“Avada Kedavra!” shouted the unmistakable voice of Lucius Malfoy.
“DUCK!” yelled Harry. Nobody but Hermione, Ron, Ginny, Neville, and Luna heard him. They got up after the dust had cleared. When they looked around they saw the dead bodies of five Aurors and ten Death Eaters standing.
“Well, well, well,” came Lucius Malfoy’s cold drawl, “What do we have here? Potty and his friends come to stop the big bad Death Eaters?”
“Shut up Malfoy!” shouted Harry, “So what if you killed a couple of Aurors? Everybody knows you are scumbags!”
“ Capture the boy and kill the rest!” shouted Malfoy in rage, “Once I capture Potter I will be the Dark Lord’s most honored servant.”
“Get behind me guys,” muttered Harry, “I got you into this mess if I die you guys run for it.”
“No!” they all said together.
“Harry,” said Ginny, “We decided to come with you and we are going to fight with you!”
“Fine but if any of you die it’ll just make me more miserable,” said Harry.
“Stupefy!” yelled Bellatrix Lestrange. What followed was a very heated battle. Harry put a jinx on all of them so it would reflect minor and medium curses and jinxes.
“Harry,” said Hermione in a worried voice.
“What?” asked Harry not even looking at her, still firing curses and jinxes at the Death Eaters.
“ I have to tell you something.” Said Hermione, “ I am your sister.”
“WHAT?” exclaimed Harry. Suddenly Malfoy sent a spell that hit Harry squarely on the chest.
“AHHHHH” yelled Harry.
“Harry!” squeaked Hermione and Ginny.
“Ginny you help them I will take care of Harry,” said Hermione.
“Okay.”
The Death Eaters spurred by the fall of Harry fought more vigorously. But Ron, Ginny, Neville, and Luna kept it up. They picked of the Death Eaters one by one. Until they finally had them all down except for Malfoy. When Malfoy finally fled Ginny and Ron came over to Harry’s side where Hermione was looking up at the lightening sky thinking.
“We need to find a cave,” said Hermione, “I know what herbs we need but they are only found in caves.”
“Well there are some caves around here.” Said Ginny looking around, “wait there is one right there.”
Ginny was right there was a big cave completely empty with all the herbs Hermione needed. They all slept until the sun was bright and shining.
“ Harry?” said Hermione, “Can you hear me Harry?”
“ Yeah, where are we did we win?” Harry asked.
“ Yes we won.” Said Ginny
“ Hermione, I can’t believe you didn’t tell me that you were my sister,” said Harry angrily now turning to Hermione,
“ I was born ten months before you.” Said Hermione, “ Our parents knew that Voldermort was after them so they hid me with the Grangers. When I got the letter of admission Dumbledore called me to Hogwarts before the start of the term and told me everything. From when I was born to when I came to Hogwarts.”
“ We still have to find Mundugus and get the locket,” said Harry.
“Harry,” said Hermione, “You need to rest!”
“I don’t need…” but he was cut of by the flutter of wings, “What’s that?”
It was an owl addressed to Harry:
Dear Harry,
How are you? Professor McGonnagal told me that you ran away to search for the Horcruxes to defeat Lord Voldermort. Yes Harry, I know all about the Horcruxes and I am not writing this letter to scold you or chide you. You are practically working for the order! So we want you to come here to headquarters and officially join the Order. And I am not joking Harry you, Hermione and Ron are officially invited to the Order by its new head and Secret Keeper, Remus Lupin. See you soon! My best to you guys!
Sincerely,
Remus Lupin
“ Wow,” said Harry reading the letter again, “Do you really think that he means it?”
“I think so,” said Ginny also looking awe struck.
Dear Professor Lupin,
We are all fine. I would also like to know if my friends Neville and Luna could join. They are also of age. We will leave this area as soon as possible but first I have to finish up some business.
Sincerely,
Harry Potter
“What business do you have to finish?” asked Ginny.
“Finding Mundugus,” said Harry shortly, “And this time I am going alone. It was way to dangerous last time. And if I don’t make it back do not search for me. Go straight to the Order and tell them what happened. The way to get in is read the letter there is a code.”
“But Harry,” said Ginny, “We came with you!”
“Not this time Ginny,” said Harry, “I don’t want to have to deal with your deaths too.”
Harry got up kissed Ginny quickly and walked out. When Harry got out he started thinking about the locket, Dumbledore’s death, and everything else that was going on in his life. He was a ways away from the cave when he thought that he heard something move. Then it hit him like a charging bull. There were still Death Eaters here! Only Malfoy had fled!
“Stupefy!” yelled a voice from behind a rock. Harry ducked. Finally all the Death Eaters came out and circled Harry.
“Well I expected something like this,” said Harry angrily, “ Lord Voldermort’s little Death Eaters are to scared to take on Harry Potter without launching a sneak attack.”
“Impedimenta!” yelled Harry so quickly that he had time to freeze all the Death Eaters, even a couple of the ones that came out from behind the rocks. When the circle had finally been formed again Harry heard a voice behind him…
“Help!” shouted somebody in the distance.
“Harry Help!” it was Ginny. He turned around. In front of him were Avery and Nott carrying a struggling Ginny.
“Move a muscle and the girl dies,” said Lestrange with a devilish smile on her face, “ Drop your wand and the girl walks free but you come with us. Try and fight and the girl dies.”
“Harry!” yelled Ginny, “Don’t do it!”
“I have to Ginny,” said Harry. He knew that it was over. He was the only one that could kill Voldermort and now when they took him to Voldermort he would die and the world would be engulfed in an age of Darkness. He had been so stupid! Why hadn’t he gone alone? Why did he have to let them come?
“ Stupefy!” yelled a voice some distance away.
“ I thought I told you to stun the rest of them. Harry let out a sigh of relief. At least the rest of them were alive.
“ We did!” said Avery stupidly.
“ Impedimenta!” said the voice again, but now closer. Harry recognized it was Lupin!
Suddenly Harry saw the heads of five people coming over the hill from the north. It was the Order! There was Lupin, Tonks, Dedalus Diggle, Kingsley Shackebolt, and Professor McGonnagal.
“Harry!” shouted Lupin over the now constant firing of spells, “ Take Ginny and go to Headquarters! The others are already there!”
Then he stunned Avery and Nott. Harry grabbed Ginny and ran about a mile. Then he let go of her.
“Let’s go,” said Harry panting. He held on to her tightly and apparated to Number Twelve Grimauld Place. For what seemed like the tenth time that summer he felt like he was being sucked into a tube. When he got there the others met him outside.
“Harry!” said Hermione, “We were so worried. After you left the Death Eaters came and attacked us from behind. They stunned all of us and took Ginny when we woke up Professor Lupin was standing over us and told us what happened. He went of with some others from the Order and told us to apparate to Headquarters.”
“Let’s go inside,” said Harry falling asleep, “ I need to sleep.”
“Yeah we are tired too,” said Ron. As soon as they went inside they were met by Mr. and Mrs. Weasly.
“Oh Harry dear,” said Mrs.Weasly, “When you ran away we were so worried. And then tonight when Remus told us that you were in trouble. You all need to go to bed.”
“ They all stayed in the same place as last time except now Luna stayed with Ginny and Hermione and Neville stayed with Harry and Ron. They all slept well past dawn. When Harry got up he was met by the smell of Pancakes and French toast.
He got dressed and went down stairs where it looked like that Mrs.Weasly had just finished yelling at Ron and Ginny for running away.
“God!” muttered Ginny as Harry sat down, “She has been going on for the last hour about how worried she was. Blah blah blah.” Harry suppressed a laugh.
“Oh hello Harry dear,” said Mrs.Weasly, “Here have some French toast.” She put down a plate of freshly made French toast in front of him. Harry ate quickly. Just as he finished Professor Lupin came in.
“Professor…” started Harry.
“No need to thank me Harry,” said Lupin normally.
“But Professor…” said Harry, “You saved my life!”
“Yes Harry but I knew where you were. It wasn’t anything out of the way for me.”
“Okay Professor,” said Harry looking puzzled, “about the Order… You said Ron, Hermione, and I were invited to join the Order?”
“What?” said Mrs.Weasly, “Ronald Weasly you are not joining the Order!”
“MUM!” said Ron, ”I can do whatever I want now. And I am going to join the Order!”
“Yes Molly they are of age…” said Lupin.
“They are all my children!” shouted Mrs.Weasly
“ They have done more than the whole Order put together!” said Lupin. Mrs.Weasly just turned and left the room, “So are you guys ready to be inducted into the Order?”
“Yes!” said Harry, Ron, and Hermione in unison.
“Congratulations. You are now members of the Order of the Phoenix,” Said Lupin.
“Let’s go up,” said Harry.
“Yeah let’s go up,” said Ron. When they got up they started talking.
The conversation slowly drifted towards Harry being Hermione’s brother. Finally Harry couldn’t take it anymore.
“Why didn’t tell me that you were my sister Hermione?” Harry burst out.
“Professor Dumbledore made me promise! I couldn’t.”
“But we were friends for all that time!”
“I made a promise Harry.”
“So is that why you knew dad was a seeker when I told you that I had made seeker in our first year?” asked Harry.
“Well… yes” said Hermione. Over the next few days Harry and Hermione barely talked to each other. Finally a few nights later Lupin came to dinner.
“ Harry we would like to know what you guys were doing in Azkaban,” said Lupin looking at Harry. Harry thought for a second. Then he decided. He would tell Lupin.
“Well Professor,” started Harry, “the night Professor Dumbledore died we went to look and destroy one of Lord Voldermort’s Horcruxes. He drank a potion to get the Horcruxe but it was a fake Horcruxe…” he pulled the fake locket out of his pocket and showed it to Lupin, “Then when we went to Godric’s Hollow I found Helga Hufflepuff’s cup. That was also one of the Horcruxes. Then I realized that the locket was the one we found while cleaning up here. And I also realized that Mundugus had nicked it. Then we saw in the papers that he had been sent to Azkaban. That is why we were there.”
“Well Harry,” said Lupin, ”You do realize he would have hidden the things that he had stolen…”
“Well yes,” said Harry, “We were going to find that out.”
“Well now since you are part of the Order we will help,” said Lupin talking to Harry as if he was an adult. Although technically he was. Over the next few days there were people pouring in and out of Headquarters. They asked everybody they could but only Tonks, Kingsley Shackebolt, Dedalus Diggle, Hagrid who Harry hadn’t seen since the end of school, and Bill had time to come with them. The journey there was very uneventful. They didn’t apparate they went on the Knight Bus. When they got to Azkaban the guards let them in.
“Mundugus!” said Harry, “Dung we know that you took the locket. And we need to know where you id it! It is important to defeating Voldermort.”
”Okay, Okay,” said Mundugus angrily, “Hold your horses. I’ll talk but what do I get if I do?”
“A longer sentence than before if you don’t!” said Lupin.
“Fine, fine!” said Mundugus, “No need to be like that. I gave it to some bloke from Hogwarts who said that he would hide it in some kinda chamber or something!”
“Was it the Chamber of Secrets?” asked Harry excitedly.
“Yeah that was it something like that,” said Mundugus.
“We are going back to Hogwarts,” said Harry, “To stay but not as students…”
Chapter Four
The Chamber Revisited
“And Dung, Who was it who You Gave The Locket to?” Asked Harry Suspicously. “ “Well….Well.” Mundungus? Asked Harry. “ It was Rubeus Hagrid Harry, Hagrid took the Locket and said he was going to Put it into Safe keeping For You, I Didn’t Intend on doing anything with it.” Dung Said Sarcastcally. “Yeah, right Dung , I don’t think you ever had any intentions of giving it to anybody else you just ran into Hagrid and he forced it from you didn’t he?” Asked Harry Questionally. “Yes, Harry You Are right if you want that locket you will need to back to Hogwarts and open the Chamber Of Secrets once more and retrieve the locket from the lowest Bowels of the School.” Said Mundungus. “ Thank You Dung.” Harry said Appricativley. And with that Harry Got Up and Apparated with Lupin Back To Number Twelve Grimmauld Place. When Harry Arrived Back at Number Twelve Grimmauld Place, He Told Everyone The News that they were going back to Hogwarts, not as students but as Order of The Phoenix members , opening the Chamber Of Secrets Once more! He Was also Surprised To See Fred And George at Headquaters. “ Hi Harry, they Both said together, We just Left St. Mungo’s , Percy’s A little Bit Better , But he’s Not out of the trance yet, but the Healers are predicting that he will make a full recovery very soon.” “Well said Harry, that’s always good news to hear.” “yeah but I Can’t Believe that Mum And Dad forgave him , I mean Who could Forgive the world’s Biggest Prat?” Said the Twins In unison. “ That’s What I like about your Parents, said Harry they live to Forgive.” And with that Fred And George apparated Back To St. Mungo’s to be with Percy. “They Are Just Big Hypocrites, said Hermione Suddenly, I mean they talk of Percy being the world’s Biggest Prat , and then the go and sit by his side when he’s sick.” “Brotherly Love, never hurt anyone.” Harry said Quite rudely. “ Harry Please don’t tell me that you are still upset about me not telling you that I’m your sister, I mean now you Know and will can still be friends even though we are sibling.” “I Know Hermione, But it still is a little upsetting, and I Know you wanted to keep your promise to Dumbledore and all, but I still appricate that you told me, now I Know and I Love you.” Said Harry Apologetically. “ I Love you to Harry, and they Gave each other a big Hug and a kiss. “Dinner.” Shouted Mrs. Weasley. Dinner that night was uneventful, Harry Told everyone of his plan, and he also told them that it might be dangerous and that he wanted Ginny To Stay at Number Twelve Grimmauld Place While He and the Rest of the Order(Ron and Hermione Included) Went back to Hogwarts to Open the Chamber Of Secrets And destroy Salazar Slytherin’s Locket. The Next Morning they All Went to King’s Cross Station where a special Edition of the Hogwarts Express was waiting to take Harry and the rest of the order to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. The Train Ride was Very Uneventful, when they arrived at Hogwarts, Harry And The Rest Of The Order ran over to Hagrid’s Hut and Knocked on the door. “Open Up Hagrid.” Said Lupin sounding quite perturbed. “Oh, Hello Remus, Oh, and Hello Harry, What brings you here today?” Hagrid asked Innocently. “We know about the locket Hagrid, We want to know if it’s truly in the Chamber Of Secrets,like Mundungus said when we visited Azkaban.” Said Harry. “ Yes, I Put it down there not knowing it was a Horcrux, not until I Heard you were out Destroying Horcruxes, did I Realize what I Had Forced off Dung, I knew it was From Number Twelve Grimmauld Place, but I Had No Clue that it was a Horcrux, I’m sorry for the inconvience Harry.” Said Hagrid sounding very sorry. “ That’s Ok Hagrid, Now if we are done here let’s get up to Hogwarts so we can sleep and In the Morning wake up and go open the Chamber Of Secrets, and destroy Salazar Slytherin’s Locket. Harry awoke the next morning revitalized and ready to get that locket, when he went down to breakfast the entire Gryffindor table stood up and started Clapping and Cheering For him. “ The Boy Who Will Destroy Voldemort has come, The Boy Who Will Destroy Voldemort Has Come.” After Breakfast Harry and the rest of the Order Went to That Dreaded Girls Bathroom, Moaning Myrtles, Bathroom . When They got there Myrtle was waiting for them. “ Oh, Hello Harry , I Know that I Have offered this before but again I’m Offering my hospitality. If You were to die down there you can Use my toilet and My U-Bend.” Said Myrtle very Dreamily. “ Thanks Myrtle I Always Can Use some words of encouragement.” Said Harry Very Sarcastically. Harry Then turned to The Wash Basin and started talking in Parseltogune. The Basin Lifted up an In Front of him Lay the enterance to The Chamber Of Secrets. One after another jump down the abyss.” Said Harry Instuctionally. And that’s exactly what they did one after another they jumped and landed hard on the Chamber’s Slimy Pit bottom. “ I Think we need to go this way.” Said Harry. They walked a long time through the antechambers , and finally they came to The Chamber Of Secrets, They Saw it Just Lying There, the Locket Harry Picked It Up and Saw that it had the Slytherin Insignia on it. He picked it up and said. “ Our mission is complete, now we must get back up to the main floor.” And out of nowhere came Ten Phoenixes in all there Glory, they Picked everyone up and flew them back to Moaning Myrtles Bathroom. There Harry Said. “Accio Sledgehammer.” And A sledgehammer came flying to Him he caught it and Slammed As hard as he could down on the Horcrux. It let out a whisp of Silver smoke Letting Harry know that he had done what he wanted to, and finally the locket was open, he picked it up and saw a picture of Merope Holding a little baby, “Voldemort” Harry thought, “Just After Being Born.” He Pocketed the picture and , was Ready to go back to the Gryffindor common room when Myrtle said. “Pity…. I was hoping you would die I Was so looking forward to you using my U-Bend with me .” “Thanks Myrtle.” Said Harry with a laugh, and with that the rest of the order left the Bathroom with Harry!
Chapter Seven: The House
Harry Woke up the next morning and Bumped into Ginny coming down the Stairs. “ Look Ginny I know I Promised you that you could come with me to Destroy the next Horcrux, but I have found out that the next Horcrux is actually located in Lord Voldemort’s Residence, So Ginny I Don’t Want you to come it’s not that I don’t think you Good enough it’s just I Don’t want you to Get Hurt or killed, I mean Voldemort has already tried it once he won’t Hesitate to Do it again And besides Ginny I Absolutley Love you and you don’t Want to Get Hurt Or killed do you Ginny?” Asked Harry. “No Harry I Don’t Want to Get Hurt of killed I Just Need some more training and I understand you But the next Horcrux you locate I’m coming with you no matter what!” Said Ginny. “Yes Ginny You will be.” Then Harry and Ginny enjoyed a long kiss and when they finally separated ,Harry said. “ I’ll see you as soon as I can Baby.” “Bye Harry.” Said Ginny. Harry and the rest of the order then apparated onto the dirt path outside of Lord Voldemort’s Residence. As they landed they saw Lucius and Draco Malfoy Walking up to the Cottage. “Avada Kedavra, Avada Kedavra, Remus Whispered and Both Of The Malfoys Fell Down Dead Without a fight. “Oh yeah.” Shouted Harry Just then a light came on In front of Voldemort’s Cottage. He then Lord Voldemort himself came out and saw that Draco and Lucius were Dead. “Why You Dirty Little Wizards how dare you Kill two Of the Best Death Eaters? Now you must Die! Avada Kedavra .”Shouted Lord Voldemort, and Degulus Diggle Fell Down Dead! “No!” Shouted Harry . “ That’s not all I can Do Harry How Bout’ I Kill That Filthy Little Mudblood Friend of Yours Right next to You, Hermione Granger?” Asked Voldemort. “That’s Where your Wrong Voldemort, You see She was Born ten Months Ahead of me, She’s My sister, she’s Bureblood! The Joke’s on you!” Said Harry “ No it’s Not It Will Be even Greater to Kill another Potter especially , one who has pretended to Have Filthy Muggle Parents since Birth!” Said Voldemort “ “Go Guys .”Harry Shouted They all Apparated Back to Number Twelve Grimmauld Place. “Accio Ravenclaw’s Wand.” It came to Him he Grabbed it in His Hand and Apparated back To Numer Twelve Grimmauld Place, But Not before Hearing Lord Voldemort Shout “AVADA KEDAVRA!” But the Curse did not Harm Harry He was Back at Number Twelve Grimmauld Place, Before he heard the last part of the spell. “Good Job Mate.” Said Ron You got the Wand Now You Must Destroy the wand, the horcrux! And Harry Took the wand Bent his knee and broke the wand in two over it. The wand let out a silver whisp of smoke that let Harry know his job had been completed. “ Now I Only have one More thing to Do and that is to kill Lord Voldemort!” Said Harry, and with that he went upstairs to Tell Ginny the good news and go to Bed!
Chapter Nine:
A Very Scary Dream!
“Harry….Harry Wake Up Sweetheart.” Said A Familiar Voice. Harry Opened his eyes and saw his mother standing in Front of Him Shaking Him! “ You Are Dead Mum What in the Bloody Hell are you Doing Here?” Asked Harry. “Oh, My dear Harry You Must have had a very Scary Dream, I Mean with first Day Jitters and all.” Said Lilly. “What do You Mean by “First Day Jitters” Mum?” Harry Asked. “ Oh Harry don’t be silly You Start at Hogwarts today and you know it Dad is ready to take you off to Hogwarts to start your musical Education.” Said Lilly. “Okay Mum, but iv’e already graduated from Hogwarts.” Said Harry “ Geez, Harry You must of have had a really wild Dream, now get up silly and come downstairs and get ready to go with Dad.” Said Lilly. As Harry Descended the stairs he realized that He was having a dream, and that he was starting at Hogwarts this morning. “ Hi Dad, Harry said as he arrived downstairs, are you ready to take me to King Cross Station today?” “Yes, Son You Are going to Absolutley love Hogwarts it’s going to be awesome you Will Just Adore Proffessor Black.” Said James. “ Oh, James Stop it Harry Knows how much he is going to enjoy his Godfather Sirius Being His Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher, You’ve told him enough, you have got to leave some surprises.” Said Lilly. “ Sirius, is Not Dead Dad?” asked Harry. “ Why of course not he’s your Godfather and he is most absolutely alive!” Said James. “Oh, I just thought he had died in the Department Of Mysteries.” Said Harry. “ How do you Know about the Department Of Mysteries?” Asked James And Lilly Together. “ It’s a long story I Dreampt it last night.” Said Harry And He told his Parents everything He told them hold Lord Voldemort had Killed them both but was unable to Kill Harry, He told them about the Chamber Of Secrets and Riddle’s Diary. He told them how he thought Sirius Black was a traitor and how he discovered he was not, He told them of Him being the 4th Hogwarts Champion for the Triwizard Tournament, He Told him How he had discoved the Department Of Mysteries and how Sirius had died, He told them of The Half-Blood Prince and How Severus Snape had Killed Albus Dumbledore, and He Told Them How he prevailed over The Dark Lord Voldemort, and He told them how Surprised when Mum Had Woke him up that Morning and told him that he was starting his first year at Hogwarts that very day. He also Told him that he had dreampt of not being the center of everyone’s attention and how happy he was now to have it! “ Wow, Harry You Had a rough night , what a scary dream yes, you will lead a normal life now , you must go back upstairs now and get your trunk and Hedwig and we can high tail it off to Kings Cross Station.” Said James. Harry went racing off up stairs and when he came back down , His Dad Said. “ Kiss Your Mum Goodbye for she will not be joining us on our trip to Kings Cross Station.” Said James. “ Bye Mum I will see you In June, I Can’t wait to Get to Hogwarts and Make Friends.” Said Harry then He Pecked his Mum on the cheek and ran out the door with Hedwig running after his Dad. “ Okay Harry When We get to Kings Cross You will Board your Train At Platform 9 ¾ .” Said James. “ Yes, Dad I Know .” Said Harry. “ Alright, then Harry I will See You At the End of Term.” Said James. “ Goodbye Dad I will see you at the end of term too.” Said Harry ,and with that Went through the Barrier and Boarded the Hogwarts Express looking for Ron Weasley And Hermione Granger. He Found them By themselves in a 3 person Compartment. “ Um.. Excuse me everywhere else is filled up may I join you here in this Compartment?” Asked Harry Cautiously. “ Yes, You May I’m Hermione Granger and this is Ronald Weasly, Were going to be First years at Hogwarts this year.” Said Hermione. “And Who Might You Be?” Asked Ron. “ I’m Harry Potter and I’m going to be a first year this year too.” Said Harry. “anything off the trolley Dears?” Asked the Concession Witch. “No I’m set.” Said Ron. “We’ll Take the lot!” Retorted Harry. Harry Then Opened a chocolate Frog And saw Tom Riddle on it the inscription on the Back said: Tom Riddle is most commonly known as the Headmaster at Hogwarts school of Witchcraft and Wizardry. He is also famous for his defeat of the Dark Wizard Dumbledore in 1945! Harry Finished reading with a very scandoulus look on his Face. “ Is Tom Riddle Really The Headmaster at Hogwarts Hermione?” asked Harry. “yes, the best Headmaster Hogwarts has ever seen.” Said Hermione. As the train reached Hogwarts Harry Got off of the train and saw Hagrid Calling “ Firs’ years, Firs’ years this way please!” “ Hello Hagrid, I’m Harry Lilly and James’s Son.” Said Harry Properly Introducing himself. “ Ah, I Thought you Would be coming this year, you know that you have been down since you were born to Come to this very fine institution and you will be under the best Headmaster We here at Hogwarts has ever see Mr. Thomas Riddle.” Said Hagrid. Harry was excited crossing the lake there it was the place he had always considered a second home and he was going back to do it all over again. They Walked through the front doors and saw that Proffessor Minerva Mcgonagal was standing waiting for them to Arrive. “ Welcome to Hogwarts, Now in just a few moments we will go through those doors and join your classmates but first you will need to be sorted. Harry, Neville, Ron, Hermione were all sorted into Gryffindor. Draco Malfoy Crabbe and Goyle were all sorted into Ravenclaw whitch gave Harry a laugh! The Year went By very uneventfully, and then On the last day Harry Was very excited to Get Back Home To Godric’s Hollow! “See You Next Year Ron, You Too Hermione.” Said Harry. As they arrived at Kings Cross. “ Hi Harry, Hi Harry.” Said James And Lilly together. “ Are you ready to Go Home Sweetie?” Asked Lilly. “ Yes, Mom For the First time in my life I Can Say Yes!” And So Ends The Saga Of Harry James Potter!
That’s all I’ve Got. The Rest Was Hand Written! Hope You Enjoy!
Posted on September 10, 2005 07:49 PM | #
shit thats more~
god ill read it laterz ok?
seems “spicy”
lol
Posted on September 11, 2005 12:04 AM | #
omg my eyes hurt!! havent finished yet…i just want ed to say…”WWWWWTTTTTTTFFFFFFFF?~?!?!?!”
harry and hermione???
okai that was all =]
bak to reading
Posted on September 11, 2005 12:13 AM | #
omfg!
i finished *phew*
it was good….but i really wish the story doesnt end like that…sorry…no offence. anyway…i think the rewrite of ur last chapter i did was better than the original *_*
omg am i the the only person who seriously hates ginny…seems like it *hugs self*
anyways u did a good job buddy and u can b the nxt jk rowling *wink wink*
gots a lot of spare time eh?
brian u seriously LOVE hp..so well done…cyberjohn didya read it all???
Posted on September 11, 2005 12:36 AM | #
HEY BRIAN. I JUST READ YOUR FIRST CHAPTER AND I WAS IMPRESSED. You have improved alot. It was alot like the book. I couldn’t stop reading it was as if i was starting a new book.
I’m going to read teh next chapter. Hope it is as good as the first. Though i think Ron and hermiones relationship would come out differently.
Posted on September 11, 2005 03:36 AM | #
HMMM. I JUST READ TEH SECOND CHAPTER. WAHT’S WITH ALL THE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TEE HEE. i DON’T THINK HARRY WOULD OF HAD A GRANDAD BECAUSE DUMBLEDORE WOULD OF SURELY KNOW AND LEAVE HIM TO HIS GRANDAD INSTEAD OF TEH DURSLEYS.
My favourite bit brian is when harry goes “Your dam right it is”… tee hee
Posted on September 11, 2005 03:42 AM | #
oh yeah…agree wif jack (4 ta 1st time) bout the gramps thingo-mabobio!
i mean out of no where *poof* theres grammies! and aunt p was the only relative that was supposily left. anyways…is that like ALL u have???
but all the surprises where cramed in agen *shrugs*
‘sok YOUSE ALL ROCk! hehehe
mg im so bored….im going to the frige den
Posted on September 11, 2005 03:57 AM | #
oh yeah…agree wif jack (4 ta 1st time) bout the gramps thingo-mabobio!
i mean out of no where *poof* theres grammies! and aunt p was the only relative that was supposily left. anyways…is that like ALL u have???
but all the surprises where cramed in agen *shrugs*
‘sok YOUSE ALL ROCk! hehehe
mg im so bored….im going to the fridge den
Posted on September 11, 2005 03:58 AM | #
hmm just read the first chapter. I was disappointed when u said harry and hermione were brother and sister. Because there not. grrrr. About james being the seeker. She probably read it in the history of hogwarts. It doesn’t make her his sister.
Phonex your opinions on chapter 3?
Posted on September 11, 2005 04:44 AM | #
chapter1
Harry lied awake staring at the ceiling of the weasleys house. He was confused. Not long ago he was asleep in dudleys old room.
He was confused. All his luggage was here aswell. How did he get here? Though the only thing he was thinking about was his friends. He just remembered about ginny and there relationship in harrys 6th year. He hoped they would atleast still be able to talk to eachother. Harry got up and got dressed. Did the weasleys know he was here?
He was about to leave the room until heard several loud bangs. “For God sake Fred George make it stop!”
“We can’t mum!”
“Well do something”. There were screams and harry could guess that hermione was also here. FOR THE RECORD THEY ARE NOT BROTHER AND SISTER! Harry was about to open his door but another loud bang made him decide not to.
“When will it stop!”
“errrrr, when will it stop george?”
“Well this is the large pack so that’s 10 more minutes. Right?”
“EVERYONE OUTSIDE!, oh no harrys up there. remus can u got him?”
“Certainly” harry was surprised to hear this name. What was he doing here? Harry could hear thudding footsteps and he backed away from, the door as lupin opened it. His hair was greyer than it had ever been. “Harry follow me and be careful, we’ve got to go outside”. harry didn’t answer it clearly wasn’t the best time to discuss anything.
Harry and lupin ran downstairs. It was a like a huge firework display in the weasleys home. A small fire had started and lupin extinguished it with his wand. They finally got outside. Fred and George brought out there hands. “Welcome back harry”. Harry let out a large grin. Fred and George were two of the most hilarious people he met. Harry glanced round looking through the read haired crowd. All except percy and mr wealsey were there. Even fluer delacour. A very pretty girl getting married to bill.
“what was that?” Harry asked.
“That my friend was weasleys fire box”said george.
“Were going to sell millions”said fred.
“No billions”
“Your not going to sell any you two. You could kill someone”said mrs weasley
“Geeze mum you could be rich, you could get rid of this dump”
“I like it” said harry with a grin. He had always loved the weasleys house even though it was small
Mrs weasley smiled. “Welcome back harry”
Posted on September 11, 2005 08:32 AM | #
weeeeeeeee. Please read my first chapter. If you don’t want to then please die
Posted on September 11, 2005 10:54 AM | #
if he does wake up and it’s a dream it will be a dea-ja-voo. he’ll know everything that will happen. that’d be cool. but it’s not gonna happen. jk’s not that stupid. idk about u guys though.
Posted on September 11, 2005 04:05 PM | #
i heard about somebody who had ideas about harry and hermione being sibling at this site. who’s idea was that?
Posted on September 11, 2005 04:08 PM | #
anybody? ok cya? who has the best ideas at this site do u guys think? i want to talk with whoever it is? somebody said it was the person with the harry/hermione idea. who was that?
Posted on September 11, 2005 04:14 PM | #
it was brian, his post number 1284 had stuff bout harry and hem being bro and sis. yeah…liked urs jack =D
cept it was only like one page bout harry waking up >
ill try but no one will like it…i dunt have time so ill do it…..NOW!
Posted on September 12, 2005 12:00 AM | #
its spelt deja vu…and when was i a “scrub-muffin” ????
*gimme the beat boys and free my soul*
*i wanna get lost in ur rock n roll*
*and drift away*
hehe
=D
so every fan has the same idea bout rab??? watcha thing jk would write???
*gimme the beat boys and free my soul*
*i wanna get lost in ur rock n roll*
*and drift away*
i wish harry parent bcame ghost coz that would have bn so cool!!!!!
cheers
Posted on September 12, 2005 12:05 AM | #
This is my random chapter about Harry and Ginny. For those who dont know, i dont really like ginny *_* [soz jack…he luvs ginny full on]
So yeah this is totally random and my chapter title is very…misleading…hehe.
note: harry and hermione are not sibilings.
Hope you enjoy and warning! I totally suck at story telling =P
Chapter one: Voldemort the dream catcher
Harry felt a little poke. He turned around to find Hermione. He smiled but it soon faded away slowly when Hermione shouted, “How could you?!” Her big throbbing vein sticking out of her forehead like a beak.
“How could I what?” Harry asked innocently.
“Argh!” She threw her arms up in the air frustrated.
“It’s alway’s the same with you boys!”
“I wouldn’t have minded a ‘hello’” Harry said joked uneasily.
Hermione, one of his bestest friend gave him a never before seen icy glare that froze his heart solid.
“You want a hello?” she said bitterly, “Why don’t you say hello to Ginny, only if youy still regard her as your girlfriend….or even yet, a human being!”
“What are you talking about…? Tell me what’s wrong with Gin-” his voice trailed. Harry turned atound to see Ginny staring right at them, tears in her swollen eyes.
“Forget it Hermione…” Ginny whispered. “What with the horcrux and all Harry was bound to forget small things like this,” she said then broke into a cry.
Harry’s girlfriend turned around and ran leaving him speechless. He fell to the floor. Hermione had pushed past him breaking into a run towards Ginny’s direction. On his hands and knees Harry stared at the floor where Ginny’s tears were drying slowly…
Harry woke up with jolt. He was sweating profusly and his loud panting made the sleeping Ron wake up.
“What’s wrong, mate?” Ron asked half yawning.
“Where’s Ginny?!” Harry asked desperately though Ron seemed not to notice.
“She’s probably still in bed….” he replied and fell back to sleep. Jumping up Harry ran to the girls room where he found Ginny talking to Hermione happily.
He ran to Ginny grabbing her and shaking her crazily.
“Ginny! I’m so sorry. Please forgive me. I didn’t mean to forget about yor birthday…”
“Harry! Let GO!” Ginny yelled angrily struggling to get out of Harry’s arms and continuous apologetic mumbles.
Harry shook harder, though as if he was under a spell…or was he?
Ginny stared at Harry’s insane eyes. They were scary, not the Harry she knew. Not HER boyfriend Harry.
“HAAAAAARRY!!” Hermione yelled on the top of her lungs.
“GET OFF MY SISTER!” Ron roared, pulling out his wand. His attempted spell was faulty and failed miserbly. Harry seeing this took out his wand out but he dropped it. He tried to grab his wand except it was under a shoe of someone.
Professor Lupin was at the door.
He saw Ginny crying into Hermione’s shoudlers while Ron and Harry where on the looking up at him in surprize.
“Harry, we need to talk,” Lupin said in a very adulty tone.
Ron helped Harry up awkwardly.
Just then Harry had reliased what he did.
woot i finished my gay chapter!
Posted on September 13, 2005 05:56 AM | #
I believe the seven horcruxes are…
1. Voldemort himself
2. Harry Potter!
3. Tom Riddle’s diary - destroyed
4. The ring - destroyed
5. The locket - now located at Grimmauld Place
6. The cup - location unknown
7. An object once owned by Ravenclaw
I’m not convinced that the snake Nagini is indeed a horcrux, there’s every possibility that Dumbledore was wrong. It would give the final book a wonderful elegance if the final four horcuxes were each related to the four founders of Hogwarts.
One being Hufflepuff’s cup, another being Slytherin’s locket, one more being an object related to Ravenclaw and the last being something related to Gryffindor
A long-established theory is that Harry is the last remaining descendant of Godric Gryffindor, hence his parents’ residence in Godric’s Hollow.
Also…
when Voldemort set out to kill Harry Dumbledore believes he was one Horcrux short. What if, when Voldemort’s curse rebounded from Harry onto himself this act of ‘murdering himself’ created the means for another horcrux to be created, and accidentally perhaps a piece of Voldemort’s soul was transferred to Harry when the curse failed, along with various other powers such as parseltongue, of course.
Hence, Harry’s scar is a symbol of him being a Horcrux.
Harry is marked by his scar as Voldemort’s equal, because both Harry and Voldemort contain one seventh, an equal measure, of The Dark Lord’s soul!
Posted on September 13, 2005 06:16 AM | #
I believe the seven horcruxes are…
1. Voldemort himself
2. Harry Potter!
3. Tom Riddle’s diary - destroyed
4. The ring - destroyed
5. The locket - now located at Grimmauld Place
6. The cup - location unknown
7. An object once owned by Ravenclaw
I’m not convinced that the snake Nagini is indeed a horcrux, there’s every possibility that Dumbledore was wrong. It would give the final book a wonderful elegance if the final four horcuxes were each related to the four founders of Hogwarts.
One being Hufflepuff’s cup, another being Slytherin’s locket, one more being an object related to Ravenclaw and the last being something related to Gryffindor
A long-established theory is that Harry is the last remaining descendant of Godric Gryffindor, hence his parents’ residence in Godric’s Hollow.
Also…
when Voldemort set out to kill Harry Dumbledore believes he was one Horcrux short. What if, when Voldemort’s curse rebounded from Harry onto himself this act of ‘murdering himself’ created the means for another horcrux to be created, and accidentally perhaps a piece of Voldemort’s soul was transferred to Harry when the curse failed, along with various other powers such as parseltongue, of course.
Hence, Harry’s scar is a symbol of him being a Horcrux.
Harry is marked by his scar as Voldemort’s equal, because both Harry and Voldemort contain one seventh, an equal measure, of The Dark Lord’s soul!
Posted on September 13, 2005 06:17 AM | #
what had he done phoenix? did no one read my chapter? post 1296 i think or not? Yeah leave ginny alone. roar!
Posted on September 13, 2005 08:58 AM | #
i just thought they souldnt b together *wink wink* more for u then jack XD
yeah it was all a dream anyways and voldy had sumthing to do wif it…hehe…more to come except me brain is all dead…i read ur story jack….
Posted on September 13, 2005 09:28 PM | #
hey slytherin’s heir,
u r dam right about nagini being one of hte horcruxes, i totally agree.
Pheonix - i read your chapter and it doesn’t sound like you have ever read a harry potter book in ur whole life !
Posted on September 14, 2005 01:11 AM | #
hehehehehehe
i read ‘em
w00t
i did i did.
well sorry nagini slytherin’s heir but i think u have a grudge against me coz im gryffindor’s heir [therefore i rule coz im gonna kick ur ass!]
wait that doesnt make sense >
anyways my point is i do read haarty potta…
Posted on September 14, 2005 04:23 AM | #
yeah ginny should be with me what did you think of my chapter phoenix and are u writing another chapter
Posted on September 14, 2005 08:19 AM | #
well of course nagini is a horcrux. Is lily potter a mudblood? cos tom says you’ll be with your mud blood mother soon harry. Geeze i’m dum
Posted on September 14, 2005 10:32 AM | #
more first chapters please.
“The lunatic is in the grass…”
“And if the band should start playing different tunes”
“I’ll see you on the dark side fo the moon”
Anyone like the bands i like oasis, the beatles, chili peppers, pink floyd. Or are u like the weiners and like THE WEIRD SISTERS!
Posted on September 14, 2005 12:07 PM | #
sorry i have not posted in a while.
brian i think your story is amazing though voldy does not talk like that. you should do another one look at it from another angle
Posted on September 14, 2005 01:06 PM | #
sorry i have not posted in a while.
brian i think your story is amazing though voldy does not talk like that. you should do another one look at it from another angle
Posted on September 14, 2005 01:07 PM | #
sorry i have not posted in a while.
brian i think your story is amazing though voldy does not talk like that. you should do another one look at it from another angle
Posted on September 14, 2005 01:07 PM | #
really sorry about that, my computer messed up.
Posted on September 14, 2005 01:21 PM | #
yeah i mte start another chapter….dunno wat about tho…mb ill introduce a ginny stealing character…jacks probably pissing in his pants =P
Posted on September 15, 2005 02:30 AM | #
im gonna write my version. gonaa try and get it as long as the real book.
Posted on September 15, 2005 08:21 AM | #
freE your not gonna write it here are you. Someone stealing ginny?
the little…
Posted on September 15, 2005 08:46 AM | #
ill write it in rough and then maybe on here.
itll take me a few months and i will write it chapter by chapter if i do write it on here.
Posted on September 15, 2005 01:59 PM | #
this book sucks
whats so good about it?
*shakes fist*
Posted on September 15, 2005 05:31 PM | #
this book is gay
whats so good about it?
*shakes fist*
Posted on September 15, 2005 05:32 PM | #
hey why was chapter 8 missing from the story?
how in the world did harry defeat voldemort? that was confusing,
i was expecting a lot more from brian, i was anticipating som much and then, i was dissappointed
i didn’t bother to read any others. sorry
Posted on September 15, 2005 06:28 PM | #
*offended look*
well okay then~ dont read my chapter…or jack’s!
Posted on September 16, 2005 11:26 PM | #
……….. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. actually do my read story it is only one chapter and doesn’t involve a gay harry…
Posted on September 17, 2005 03:32 AM | #
The stories are pretty good. Sorry I haven’t posted in a while, didn’t feel like actually posting. But yeah, good stories.
Posted on September 17, 2005 05:48 AM | #
hello
have a nice day
we know you suk
i suk
evry1 suks
who
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Posted on September 17, 2005 10:15 AM | #
hey, well ss000rry MY harry is gay. i wanted to spice things up is all!
yeah we all suk
Posted on September 17, 2005 08:43 PM | #
hey who did that.
i swear that that was not me.
Posted on September 18, 2005 04:30 AM | #
alright this time it’s the truth it wasn’t me freE.
pretty hilarious though
Posted on September 18, 2005 05:46 AM | #
Cyber John Like I have stated before I hand wrote some of the Chapters including Number eight! I’m sick And Tired of people Being Rude about my writing ! I was taught at a young age that Respect in order to get it you must give it! And I Write beacuse it’s what I enjoy! I love to Read too! I’m Sorry If this note has a bad tone to it, But I would appriciate it if people just gave creative critisism not Ones that put people down! OK? Well Book Club at School Started this week and Were reading Jonathan Strange And Mr Norrell! It’s an Awesome book About Wizards during the nepoleonic Wars! It’s A lot like Harry Potter Written For Adults! If you haven’t read it It highly Highly Reccomend It!
Posted on September 18, 2005 10:24 AM | #
jonathan who and mr wat???
we dont understand xoz we dont go to ur skool =P
anyways, he was saying good things man so chill down
Posted on September 19, 2005 01:02 AM | #
geeze stop being such a baby waaaaaaa. anyway… freakin hilarious. waaa i wish you’d stop criticising my work brian!
Posted on September 19, 2005 12:05 PM | #
my plan is short and sweet. One spell then bam.
Posted on September 19, 2005 01:01 PM | #
Hey i haven’t really posted befor so…
I was reading up on something in book 6 in the American edition and Dumbledore told Draco killing someone is not nearly as easy as the innocent belive…
Chapter 27 page 586. Do you think that Dumbledore could have killed someone and not just b/c that persons a Death Eater and there bad and what not but for something else?
I was just wondering about it,
sorry if it was already posted like a year ago. I know that something like that was already talked about a really long time ago.
Posted on September 21, 2005 04:17 PM | #
Hey i haven’t really posted befor so…
I was reading up on something in book 6 in the American edition and Dumbledore told Draco killing someone is not nearly as easy as the innocent belive…
Chapter 27 page 586. Do you think that Dumbledore could have killed someone and not just b/c that persons a Death Eater and there bad and what not but for something else?
I was just wondering about it,
sorry if it was already posted like a year ago. I know that something like that was already talked about a really long time ago.
Posted on September 21, 2005 04:19 PM | #
sorry about that like i said i it’s my first time posting.
Posted on September 21, 2005 04:20 PM | #
ok
im having a really difficult time with this.
sorry about the two message thing.
if two messages pop up this time im sorry about that two.
Posted on September 21, 2005 04:24 PM | #
Dumbledore killed someone before. I forget the name at the time. But it was back in 1944.
Posted on September 21, 2005 04:35 PM | #
Dumbledore killed someone before. I forget the name at the time. But it was back in 1944.
Posted on September 21, 2005 04:37 PM | #
the harry hermione thing was not brians idea, it was kansas i think, in posts 163-w/e. who’s kansas??does he even have good ideas, cuz if he does, i’m talkin to him
Posted on September 23, 2005 08:21 PM | #
hello, i wanna talk to this kansas! of all the posts he seems to have the most sense!
Posted on September 23, 2005 09:09 PM | #
Harry Potter and the Prophecy Fulfilled
CHAPTER 1
Forgiven
It was July 27th a few days before Harry’s birthday Hermione and Ron had kept in touch with Harry every three days just like they promised Harry also sent letters to the order keeping them updated on how he was being treated at the dursleys. But none of that seemed to matter any more because Dumbledore was gone. Harry would put up with the dursleys forever if he could just bring Dumbledore back. It had been a very long day he had not been able to go outside because of the rain. But that didn’t matter because he didn’t want to go outside to play read or anything. The only thing on his mind was the horcruxes, finding them destroying, fighting voldemort being with Ginny, “R.A.B”. Those three initials rung in his head like an alarm bell who was R.A.B and then almost as if he could sense someone Harry pulled out his wand as girl appeared next to Harry’s bed she had slightly bushy brown hair and rather pretty looking teeth.
‘Harry its me’’
It was Hermione but she looked shocked and different I mean she looked like Hermione, she even smelled like Hermione but something; something about how she was now felt different.
Harry’s thoughts centred on the events that led up to the end of term, snape’s betrayal and eventual escape. Not to mention his nemesis Draco Malfoy and the role he played in the downfall of professor Dumbledore. Harry’s mind stopped racing and was replaced with the image of Dumbledore’s lifeless, broken body lying spread eagle at the foot of the tower and as he saw him lying there he remembered the locket, the locket that Dumbledore had weakened himself to obtain. The locket that they had both been fooled into thinking was a horcrux.
‘R.A.B Harry said softly, he continued to repeat the initials from the small piece of paper that had been in the locket until he felt everything go silent the image of Dumbledore became a distant echo, the echo a blur and everything fell into darkness.
“Harry! Hermione shouted”
Harry opened his eyes at once and felt the room come back into focus.
“Are you all right? Said Hermione sounding worried and confused”
Yea I’m fine it’s just I’m sorry I just I, thought that it was someone else. Are you ok?
“Voldemort” she said without a moment’s hesitation.
“Yes but i don’t feel like talking about this right now besides I thought you were coming with your parents in there car.
“yea I know but since we passed our apparition tests I just thought I’d try it to see if I could get from my house to yours, speaking of which I’ve never seen your house before or your room
Hermione took a quick glance around the room and spotted dirty socks spell books, a large wooden trunk his broomstick and a picture of a man and woman dancing
“Harry said Hermione is that you’re…”
“My parents”
“Harry I know this must be hard for you right now I mean we all respected Dumbledore but going back to Godrics Hollow could be dangerous I mean what if he’s waiting for you.
“He won’t be, not before I find and destroy every last horcrux then I’ll be ready for him
‘What do you mean; she replied you’re not really serious about finding the horcruxes by yourself Harry you can’t you, you have to face the truth that you can’t do this alone.
Truth, let me tell you about the truth about my truth; the truth is I’m going to have to fight him because he can’t live while I’m alive it was all in the prophecy that Trelawney I have to do this if not for me then for them.
Harry pointed at the picture of his parents
This is just who I am said Harry, and when I’m ready to deal with this then I will but until then can we just leave it at that.
“Ok said Hermione but Trelawney! Harry you know you can’t believe everything that fraud says”
Harry could not believe what Hermione was saying he knew that Trelawney was not a true seer but he knew she had been the one who made the prediction about Harry and Voldermort how it started with them and how would apparently end with them.
Harry opened his mouth to speak and as he did the words echoed the lines of the prophecy he’d heard only a year ago.
‘The one with the power to vanquish the dark lord approaches…
born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies… and the dark lord will mark him as an equal, but he will have power the dark lord knows not… and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives… the one with the power to vanquish the dark lord will be born as the seventh month dies…’
‘“Hermione I’ve never told anyone this but my mother and father defied him three times while they were in the service of the order of the phoenix; I was born as the seventh month died.”
‘Yea but it could still be someone replied Hermione, it could have been anyone born around that time’
‘No Hermione it is me you know how I it’s me?
‘’Hermione looked at Harry for a second a saw his hand move upwards towards his face but did not stop, it moved to his hair which he brushed aside to reveal the only physical evidence that proved that Harry was the one the prophecy was talking about.’
‘Harry opened his mouth slowly and said,
“And the dark lord will mark him as an equal”
“Me”
‘Tears started to well up in Hermione’s eyes she was at a complete loss for words as it was now apparent that she had not been ready for this, And neither had Harry for without realising tears began to stream down his face. And in his heart he was reminded of the phoenix lament for Dumbledore.
‘Can’t you see said Harry; he’s taken away everybody who ever tried to protect me, my parents, Sirius, Dumbledore? I can’t let it happen again I don’t want you or Ron, or Ginny or the others to get hurt because of me.
“Harry said Hermione now gathering her self to speak; you know that wasn’t your fault bill knew the risks when he joined the order besides he’s still alive and he’s getting married to fleur remember! Please promise me you’ll stay for the wedding.
‘Ok said Harry, But I’m still not coming back to Hogwarts.
‘Are you sure your still going back to Godrics Hollow?’
‘This all started there and I don’t know I feel like there’s something there that might me help to find the remaining Horcruxes, there’s a lot that I’m not sure about anything anymore this is just something I have to do.
‘I understand I can see there’s no convincing you so I guess there’s nothing else to say. It’s time for us to go now I’ll pack your trunk while you say goodbye to your aunt and uncle.’
‘It’s all right I don’t need to…
“Harry” shouted Hermione; you may never see them again!
‘Good all the better for me’
‘You don’t really mean that Hermione said, go on I’ll meet you downstairs ’
Harry took to the stairs slowly and as he walked down he was reminded of the cupboard under the stairs that had once been his room, he had suffered at the Dursleys and would now leave there forever. My freedom he thought comes with a great price the enchantments and old spells protecting the house would not protect Harry he had no defence against the death eaters or lord voldermort he was completely and utterly alone. As he reached the last step a letter flew through the letter box and landed at his feet, he picked up the letter and began to open it. In his he hoped it would be from Dumbledore giving him the advice he so richly needed at a time like this or the ministry of magic maybe changing they thought he should be locked up in Azkaban but it wasn’t either of them. It was from someone else; he unfolded the letter which said,
Dear Mr H Potter,
If you are reading this then it means that you are about to come of age thereby rendering the protection placed over 4 Privet Drive, Little Whinging, Surrey inactive. As the keeper of Albus Dumbledore’s will I hereby give you the key to vault 686 and the contents thereof?
Yours sincerely,
Professor McGonagall- Headmistress Hogwarts
‘Harry thought to himself for a moment and then he remembered
“Vault 686 that’s right next to mi….’
“Harry” are you ready to leave
“What! Oh yea just give me a second.
Aunt petunia was the only one in the house Harry made his way into the living room she turned round to Harry as he entered the room and said “so its time for you to go”. Yes replied Harry you won’t see me again.
She stared at him for a moment almost bewildered and then she spoke again but this time in a soft voice Harry, I’m sorry for the way we’ve treated you these last 17 years. When I found out that lily died to protect you I felt cheated, you see me and my sister we… used to argue over things all the time but it didn’t mean that I loved her any less. We had a huge argument before she went to live with your father James.
Harry could not believe what he was hearing his aunt, the woman he had despised almost as much as professor snape was being kind to him and more than anything she had called his father by his proper name.
“I just wanted someone to blame I guess because when you’re dead you can’t argue back and that hurt me because she got the last say.
At that moment Harry did something he never thought he’d do he hugged his aunt. Everything was clear to him now he now knew the reason for why the Dursleys had made his life hell. It was because lily had died protecting Harry before they could patch things up.
“I’m so sorry Harry”
Out of the corner of his eye he could see Hermione’s thick bushy hair coming into view, “Harry its time” Harry signalled to Hermione that he understood and he turned his back and walked towards Hermione and heard his aunt call “Harry”… I won’t recognise or remember you once you leave neither will Vernon or Dudley.
Harry turned back round to face his aunt and before disappearing into nothing mimed the words “I forgive you”
And apparated……
Posted on September 24, 2005 08:07 AM | #
It has been often suggested that Voldemort might be Harry’s real father (like Vader and Luke in ” Star Wars “…) I do NOT think he is - I mean, I think Harry’s father is James, and that James and Voldemort are two different persons - but I also think Harry and Voldemort ARE related.
There are many resemblances between them : they can both speak to snakes, they have “twin” magic wands, and there is also a real physical resemblance between Harry and Tom Riddle (young Voldemort). Dumbledore does explain (at the end of book 2) that some of Harry’s traits (snake language for instance) might have been given to him
-most unwillingly- by Voldemort when he failed to kill him… much in the same way as he gave him his scar.
Maybe… however, we know there is a great physical resemblance between James and Harry, so there must have been a physical resemblance between James and young T. Riddle. This cannot be the result of the attack that gave Harry his scar ! So, my theory is that Voldemort and James Potter are related.
Now, remember Dobby at the beginning of book 2 :
- Harry asks Dobby if the warning he has just given to him has anything to do with You Know Who,
- Dobby answers : ” No, not He Who Must Not Be Named “, but his eyes are wide open. he is trying to suggest something to Harry.
- We know what it is. the warning has something to do with Tom Riddle (and Tom Riddle CAN be named).
- Then, Harry asks Dobby another question : ” He hasn’t got a brother, has he ? ” (strange question, by the way.is it only there to prepare a future revelation ?)
- Again, Dobby shakes his head, but again his eyes are wide open, wider than ever, as if he were trying to suggest something else to Harry, something most important : we still don’t know what it is.
So, what would Dobby have said if he had been feeling free to speak ?
Here is my guess : Voldemort has no brother (so Dobby’s answer is true, strictly speaking)… but he had a sister. Voldemort’s sister married a wizard named Potter.
She became the mother of James Potter ! So, if I am correct, Voldemort is James’ uncle, and Harry’s great-uncle. As Dobby is Malefoy’s house elf, he is likely to know about such a secret : Malefoy, after all, was in Voldemort’s ” inner circle “.
Another hint : when Harry first reads the name “Riddle” in the diary, he thinks he has never heard it before… and yet there is something familiar about that name :
“.as though Riddle was a friend he’d had when he was very small”.
Why ? The expression ” when he was very small ” must refer to the period when he was with his parents. Maybe he has heard about “grandmother Riddle” during the first year of his life !
Objection 1 : Voldemort’s mother died when he was born.
Answer : no problem ; his sister must have been older than him.
Another hint to support this : Mrs Riddle (Voldemort’s mother) hadn’t told her husband she was a witch when they got married ; then, WHY did she have to tell him later, when she was pregnant ?
The answer could be : because the other child had begun showing magical talents ! (thanks to the person who suggested this idea)
Objection 2 : when looking in the mirror of Erised and seeing his family, Harry does not see Voldemort.
Answer : the mirror cannot give anyone the Truth ; it merely shows one’s heart’s greatest desire ; obviously, when looking in the mirror, Harry doesn’t particularly want to see Voldemort ! (After all, he doesn’t see the Dursleys either).
Objection 3 : Dumbledore has said that the Dursleys are Harry’s only left family.
Answer : at the beginning of book 1, here is what Dumbledore exactly says :
- ” I’ve come to bring Harry to his aunt and uncle. They’re the only family he has left now. “
Given the context, I suppose Dumbledore means ” the only family that can take care of him “. Obviously, no one would expect Voldemort to take care of Harry !
And even if Dumbledore’s words are to be interpreted literally, the Dursleys might very well be Harry’s only living relatives and my theory still be correct : when Dumbledore says these words about the Dursleys, Voldemort is not really alive any more : he is in a state so close to death (neither alive, nor really dead) that he cannot be considered a ” living relative ” of Harry.
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Part 2 : Why did Voldemort want to kill Harry ?
As far as we know, Voldemort has always been after Harry’s life, ever since Harry was a baby. Why ? In book 1, Harry asks Dumbledore, but Dumbledore says he is not ready to hear the truth yet.
We know Voldemort also killed James, but he didn’t want to kill Lily (he killed her only because she was trying to protect Harry).
Let us see. we know Voldemort has killed :
- his own family (the Riddles),
- the Potter family (except Harry who survived).
If Voldemort and James Potter are related (see Part 1 above), all this may be the continuation of the same massacre !
Here is my theory :
Voldemort wants to kill Harry BECAUSE they are related.
Voldemort wants to kill people who are blood-related to himself : he killed the Riddles, he killed James, but he didn’t particularly want to kill Lily.
If my theory is correct, Lily is NOT related to Voldemort, and this is the reason why he didn’t want to kill her (this is the exact opposite of another, quite popular, theory !)
Now. why does Voldemort want to kill relatives ?
We know what Voldemort’s supreme goal is : he is on a quest for immortality !
That’s what he says in book 4, in his speech to the Death-Eaters :
” I, who have gone further than anybody along the path that leads to immortality. You know my goal - to conquer death. “
My theory is that he has found (or has been taught) a path to immortality, something very, very dark indeed, the darkest of the Dark Arts, that involves taking the lives of his relatives (including Harry) !
This would account for the name Voldemort has chosen :
in French, “Vol-de-mort” means something like “Death-stealing”.
The “Death-stealer” takes the lives of his relatives to ensure his own immortality : ghastly isn’t it ?
A hint to support this theory (this one is a BIG hint) :
At the end of book 1, when Harry and Voldemort are face to face, Voldemort asks Harry to give him the Philosopher’s Stone and proposes him to change sides, to become his ally.
Most important : at that precise moment, Voldemort is willing to spare Harry’s life !
“Better save your own life and join me.”
“Now give me the Stone, unless you want her (Lily) to have died in vain.”
Why ? Of course, Voldemort may be lying, but if he is sincere, this is the ONLY time he doesn’t want to kill Harry : he wanted to kill him when he was a baby ; he wants to kill him at the end of book 4 when they meet again… so, why not at that moment ?
Well… if Harry gives him the Stone, Voldemort’s quest for immortality is finished : with the Stone, he IS immortal !
No more need to kill Harry then…
After the Stone is destroyed, Voldemort first tries to recover his body and mortal life (he succeeds at the end of book 4), then he will resume his old quest…
If you are still unconvinced, consider this sentence carefully :
“Now give me the Stone, unless you want her (Lily) to have died in vain.”
We know Lily died to save Harry’s life. she will have died ” in vain ” if Harry is killed, so the sentence means :
” Now give me the Stone, unless you want to be killed now “.
The Stone can give its owner immortality. so Voldemort’s sentence means :
” Give me this stone-of-immortality, and I will not kill you “.
this clearly shows the relation that exists between Voldemort’s desire to become immortal and his desire to kill Harry.
Another hint :
At the end of book 4, Barty Crouch Jr says to Harry that the Dark Lord and himself had killed their fathers “to ensure the continued rise of the Dark Order”.
What does that mean ? For Crouch, this is obvious : his father was going straight to Dumbledore to tell him everything. But in what way was the murder of Voldemort’s father by his son of any use for the “rise of the Dark Order” ? If my theory is correct, this murder (50 years in the past) was in fact one of Voldemort’s first steps on his path to immortality.
Objection : if Voldemort desires immortality that much, why doesn’t he try to build his own Philosopher’s Stone ?
Answer : Nicolas Flamel is the only wizard who has successfully created a Philosopher’s Stone in over six centuries (and maybe much more) !!! This should mean that creating a Stone is an unthinkably difficult task. Even if Voldemort is the greatest dark wizard of modern times, this is probably beyond his abilities. The path to immortality he has found must be a bit less difficult (although still very difficult).
One last note : if my theory is correct, Harry is - like Voldemort himself - a heir of Slytherin. Many fans of Harry Potter believe that Harry is in fact the heir of Griffindor. I think he could very well be both. My theory implies that Jame’s mother is a descendant of Slytherin, but Jame’s father could be a descendant of Griffindor.
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Part 3 : What exactly is Voldemort’s ” path to immortality ” ?
So, I have reached the conclusion that Voldemort wants to kill Harry because he needs to kill relatives, in order to achieve his supreme goal : immortality. I think this conclusion is quite plausible, as it is based on hints found in the books.
What follows is (much) more speculative : what is exactly Voldemort’s “path to immortality” ? What does he have to do in order to achieve immortality ? Must he kill ALL his relatives ? This could mean all mankind. Or just a minimum number of people ? Or just his “close” relatives (whatever that means) ?
The solution I propose here is different from the one I posted some weeks ago ; I think it is better, although I’m still not fully satisfied with it.
I suppose Voldemort had to kill his father, as well as all his father’s descendants (except himself, of course). Killing them is just a part (although a necessary part) of the path that leads him to immortality.
I suppose Voldemort was taught how to become immortal during his final years at Hogwarts ; the master who taught him was dark wizard Grindelwald, just before he was defeated by Dumbledore in 1945. (JKR gave us this name in book 1 : so, I think Grindelwald must have had a role somehow. And the year 1945 fits very well with the end of
Tom Riddle’s studies at Hogwarts.)
The “path to immortality” must involve rituals of dark magic, of an extreme complexity… I think the “transformations” that made Tom Riddle barely recognizable when he came back as Lord Voldemort were part of the process. And he also needed an important thing from his father !
Remember the potion that restored Voldemort to his mortal life and body in book 4: the bones of his father were necessary for it.
Voldemort’s “path to immortality” is something else, a completely different spell, but I suppose it also involves taking something from his father : his life !!!
Killing his father was one of Voldemort’s first steps on his “path to immortality”.
But after that, Voldemort realized something was going wrong.
He had killed his father, and yet this part of the immortality-spell hadn’t produced its full effects : it was as if his father was somehow still alive, as if something of him had survived. in someone else !
Remember what Dumbledore says to Harry at the end of book 3 :
“Your father is alive in you, Harry. So you did see your father last night, Harry. you found him inside yourself.”
The same kind of thing must have happened with Tom Riddle Senior and his daughter.
So, Voldemort understood he had not completely done the job ; and he became aware of the existence of his sister, whom he had never heard about before. To become immortal, he would have to kill her as well, and all her descendants !
Years later, he found his sister, and killed her. but again, this wasn’t enough. She had had a son.
More years later, after he had grown a lot in power, he finally found the Potters (with the help of Wormtail).
He killed James..
Here is the story of what happened after that, from Voldemort’s point of view :
Only Harry left, his ultimate triumph is at hand. He reaches the baby, raises his wand. at last, at long last, he is about to obtain what he has been looking for for the last 40 years ! He wants to enjoy every second of this moment !
- “AVAD..”
- “Not Harry, not Harry, please not Harry !”
- “Stand aside, you silly girl. stand aside now.”
- “Not Harry, please no, take me, kill me instead”
That stupid girl is not going to ruin the most important moment in Lord Voldemort’s life ! She wants to be killed. very well then !
So, he kills Lily.
And now, Harry ! Nothing can stop him now ! He doesn’t want to think of anything else : immortality is at hand. He raises his wand again, eyes half closed, preparing for the greatest moment of his life ! Somewhere very deep in his own mind, an alarm rings weakly, a little voice warning him of a possible danger, something about Lily’s
sacrifice. But he doesn’t want to pay attention to that : he doesn’t want to think of anything but his final triumph. Now !
- “AVADA KEDAVRA !”
ARGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!
We know what happens to him after that… The death-spell strikes him rather than Harry. He is reduced to something powerless and barely alive, almost dead, but not dead : even though he hasn’t finished his “path to immortality” (he is not immortal yet), the fact he has gone very far on that “path” allows him to avoid being killed.
I’ve said I’m still not fully satisfied with this part (part 3) of my theory.
If all Voldemort needs is to have the descendants of his father dead, then he doesn’t necessarily have to kill Harry himself.
If Harry dies, no matter how, it will be OK for Voldemort !
But then, why doesn’t he ask Barty Crouch Jr to kill Harry during his fourth year ? Does he need to recover his body first, before killing Harry ? This is not very clear.
• I think Voldemort wanted to kill harry himself because he believes that harry is his last desendent. So if he believes he would be killing his last desendent that his path to imortalty is complete. I think that the reason he doesn’t just have some one else kill harry is because he wants to be the one to complete his goal. He doesnt want anyone to do it for him beacause he is so independent. Another reason Voldemort might want to kill harry so badly is because harry made a fool of Voldemort the first time he tried to kill harry, the second, the third, and the fourth.
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Part 4 : What about the Death-Eaters ?
This part, too, is very speculative.
Why did Voldemort’s followers choose that name “Death-Eaters” ?
What on Earth does it mean ?
Well… the meaning of “Death-Eater” is very close to “Death-Stealer”… so I suppose they use that name because they too are intending to become immortal, using the same dark magic as their master : Voldemort will be the first one, but if he succeeds, his followers will try to follow the same path to immortality !
Lucius Malefoy is a Death-Eater.
Poor Draco ! The moment may come when his father Lucius will have to choose between his son and the Dark Order !
Barty Crouch Jr is also a Death-Eater.
We know Voldemort was able to survive an otherwise mortal spell, because he had gone “further than anybody along the path that leads to immortality”.
Barty hasn’t gone as far as his master on that “path to immortality”, he probably hasn’t performed all the spells that Voldemort has, but hey, he too has killed his father !!!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Barty had been able to survive the Dementor’s Kiss : maybe he is just pretending to be a soulless body by now ! In that case, we’ll still hear about him !
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Part 5 : Are there other descendants of Voldemort’s father ?
This last part is probably the most speculative and uncertain of all !
Voldemort himself certainly thinks that Harry is the last descendant of his sister, and thus the last obstacle between himself and immortality. But maybe he is wrong.
Consider this story :
James Potter is feeling very worried, as never before in his life…
He has just left school and married Lily. and Dumbledore has considered it was time for him to know the terrible secret.
So, the Dark Lord’s true family name is “Riddle”, just as his own mother. Now, James knows he is the last relative of Voldemort ; and he knows he is Voldemort’s target for that reason.
What can he do then ? James has great courage, but the future of all mankind is at stake, not only his own life !
If Voldemort ever finds him, and kills him, then all will be lost :
the Dark Lord will be immortal, and no one - not even Dumbledore - will ever be able to defeat him ! The Age of Darkness will begin ! And it will last forever !
Unless..
Of course ! There is only one thing he can do !
The Potters understand that they should have children, several children if possible, and as soon as possible. Furthermore, they should not keep all their children in the same place.
So, I think it is at least a possibility that Harry might have a brother or sister, who the Potters would have hiden as soon as he or she was born, and who would have lived with adoptive parents ever since.
I know… supposing that Hermione is Harry’s sister would be very Star-Wars-like. and yet, why not ?
Could Hermione be Harry’s sister ? Is it even possible ? We know she was born in September, and Harry was born in July. It seems logical to suppose that Hermione is 10 months older than Harry rather than 2 months younger (so that they were both 11 years old on Sept. 1st, the year they entered Hogwarts).
In that case, the brother-sister theory is not completely impossible. a 10 month difference (nearly 10.5 months in fact) is a very short time indeed, but remember I suppose James and Lily were in a hurry !
Harry and Hermione. Is there only frienship between them ? Or something else ? Anyway, they are very close friends at the very least!
Ron and Hermione are quite obviously attracted to each other ; their quarrels and reconciliations might be an indication that they will end up together. or maybe not.
The Harry-Hermione relation is very different : they seem somehow “naturally”, almost instinctively close to each other. Quite often, each of them seems to be knowing what the other has in mind.
I think this should mean something important :
- Either it means that they will fall in love in the next books. and end up together. This is a real possibility, and the kiss Hermione gives to Harry at the end of book 4 might be a beginning, but I reckon a Ron-Hermione romance is more probable.
- Or it means that there is “something else” between them. Of course, the brother-sister theory would fit perfectly !
So, let us see. If Harry and Hermione are siblings, then the Grangers are Hermione’s adoptive parents. Maybe they are really Muggles, maybe just pretending.
Who knows the truth about Hermione ?
Obviously, Harry has no clue ; I think Dumbledore knows the truth, as do a few teachers (at least Lupin and McGonagall, see the hints below) and probably Sirius. The Grangers must know. and my little idea is that HERMIONE HERSELF knows the truth !!! After all, we know Hermione is able to keep a secret (remember the Time-Turner in book 3).
All this is pure speculation. So, it is time for some hints to support the “Harry and Hermione brother and sister” theory :
- A minor physical resemblance : they are both unable to comb their hair.
- At the beginning of book 1, before Harry and Hermione become friends, before they even really know each other, Hermione’s behaviour is a bit excessive : she keeps interfering in Harry’s affairs, much more than in anyone else’s affairs (even Ron’s) :
“I can’t believe you are going to do this, Harry.”
(Harry and Ron are leaving Griffindor’s Tower together, why does she say that to Harry only ?)
I know it’s Hermione’s nature to be quite interfering, but I think this is a bit too much. However, if Harry is her little brother, and if SHE KNOWS IT, her behaviour is understandable.
- BIG HINT : In book 2, just after Hermione and Penelope have been petrified. Professor McGonagall goes straight to Harry :
“Potter, I think you’d better come with me.”
Why ? I don’t think it is just because he is Hermione’s friend : she would have asked Ron as well. But no, she doesn’t care about Ron. she starts returning to the castle (and to Hermione) with Harry. Only when Ron comes running up to them, does she agree :
“Yes, perhaps you’d better come too, Weasley.” (note the “perhaps…too.”).
Quite strange, isn’t it ? But if McGonagall knows that Hermione and Harry are siblings, her behaviour is normal !
- In book 3, in Lupin’s class with the Boggart. All students fight the Boggart except Harry and Hermione. We know why Lupin didn’t allow Harry : he was afraid (wrongly) that the Boggart would assume the shape of Lord Voldemort. But why, WHY didn’t he allow Hermione to fight the Boggart ?
Well. Lupin is an old friend of James Potter ; so if Hermione is the Potters’ daughter, he probably knows it ; I suppose he was afraid that if he allowed Hermione to fight the Boggart in public, the shape it would assume could reveal something, a secret about her past.
And by the way, when Hermione finally fights a Boggart during her exam, no one but her can see what shape it assumes. did she tell the truth about that ? (Her little story is a bit ridiculous.)
- In book 4, at the Three Broomsticks pub, when Rita Skeeter tries to get an interview from Harry one last time.
About Hagrid, Rita asks Harry :
“Would you call him a father substitute ?”
Hermione’s reaction is extremely violent ; she stands up “very abruptly, her Butterbeer clutched in her hand as though it was a grenade.”
Why ? After all, these words were nothing worse than what Rita had been saying before.
Obviously, it is the words “father substitute” that caused Hermione’s reaction. I reckon this is because SHE has been raised by adoptive parents. and knows it !
- I wonder why Hermione wanted to study Muggles during her third year.
OK, she explains that :
“it’ll be fascinating to study them from the wizarding point of view”
but is that really the truth ?
Are the Grangers real Muggles, or just pretending ?
- In book 1, when Hermione and Harry meet for the very first time in the train. Just after Harry has introduced himself, she says something a bit peculiar :
“.I’d have found out everything I could if it was me.”
I don’t think anyone else ever says something like that to Harry.
“If it was me”. “If I was the one who once defeated the Dark Lord”.
Does she mean it could have been her ???
- More about this first time Harry and Hermione meet in the train.
I suspect Hermione of kidnapping Trevor the toad for a moment, just to send Neville looking around and have a good reason to enter Harry’s compartment.
Hey ! If she knew her little-brother-she-had-never-seen-before-but-had-thought-of-so-often was in the train, she wanted to see him immediatly !
Objection : Dumbledore has said that the Dursleys are Harry’s only left family (same objection as in Part 1 above).
Answer : here is what Dumbledore exactly says :
- ” I’ve come to bring Harry to his aunt and uncle. They’re the only family he has left now. “
Given the context, I suppose Dumbledore means ” the only family that can take care of him “. Little 2-year-old Hermione is a bit too young to take care of her brother !
OK, she is brilliant. but nobody is THAT brilliant ;-)
However, if Dumbledore’s words are to be interpreted literally, then it means Vernon and Petunia are Harry’s only living relatives. As I have explained in Part 1, Harry can still be related to Voldemort, but not to Hermione : in that case, she can’t be his sister.
But I don’t think one should interpret Dumbledore’s words literally
here : doing so would imply that Dudley ISN’T the Dursley’s son. very hard to believe !!!
Posted on September 24, 2005 08:33 AM | #
this was my harry hermione idea. i had it, not brian puke, timo supreemo was right about that
Posted on September 24, 2005 08:36 AM | #
ring any bells?? i’v already said most of this in posts163-188, but his has even more ideas. that chapter was just something quick, it’s probably not as good as brian’s, but idk i havn’t read brian’s
Posted on September 24, 2005 08:51 AM | #
dude,brian, u used like all my ideas about the chamber of secrets and stuff in your little “book seven chapters”
Posted on September 24, 2005 06:45 PM | #
Ravenclaws horcrux is a crown in the room of requiremetn.
Posted on September 24, 2005 09:41 PM | #
I think that Dunbledore is alive, just not in his human form. I believe that Dumbledore did indeed make a Horcrux himself and that Fawkes his phoenix is it. If you recall, during the burial ceremony Harry thought he saw a phoenix rise from Dumbledores body. Also it would explain why Fawkes was always there when Harry needed help and why Dumbledore always knew what had happened.
Posted on September 24, 2005 11:44 PM | #
There is no possible way that voldermort is harrys father. That would be a real copy of star wars.
Kansas is dead to me…
Posted on September 25, 2005 05:37 AM | #
jack i never said voldy was his father, i said that would be very unlikely
Posted on September 25, 2005 06:35 AM | #
i’ve been thinking alot about animangi lately, i think that it is possible that..
1. trevor the toad is of course regulus black
2. fang the boarhound could be a prewett brother or any other “dead” person
3. harry could already be one but doesn’t know it
4. heck, hedwig could even be somebody, he’s pretty smart..or she
Posted on September 25, 2005 06:53 AM | #
i havent posted in a while. whats been the latest stuff going on. ive had a great thought that could lead to alot of cool stuff. in the first chapter of the sixth book we were introduced to the english human prime minister. and nothing really came of it. i have a feeling and i really hope im right that the two worlds clash and the humans play a big part in voldermorts downfall. the possibilities are endless.
its time we get some technology into this epic. some television some guns and some pizza for god sakes. how do these wizards live with out pizza.
Posted on September 26, 2005 05:17 PM | #
ahhh pizza sounds good. that would be kinda cool, someone just buries a bullet in voldemorts forehead and kills him.
but i think that idea about fang being someone is pretty good. could be regulus because his brother was a dog. that’s pretty much cool.
Posted on October 1, 2005 02:18 PM | #
What is up with Dumbledore’s blackened hand. It obviously has some significance since it is mentioned again and again. What if Dumbledore preformed some sort of spell or dark magic on himself that would enable him to fake his own death, but cost him his hand. His hand is specifically referred to as looking “dead”.
Posted on October 1, 2005 02:25 PM | #
Hey kansas i think everything in that way long comment was pretty good. do you sit around and think all day or something? but anyways the ginourmous thing is very good, but wasn’t voldemort’s intentions to kill harry because of the profesy?
well but maybe after he heard the parts of the profesy he probably thought of harry firs because if he really was related to the potters he wouldve known that his nephew was expecting a baby on that day.
also, im thinkin that lily and james had a lot more kids than just harry and hermione. lily could have taken fertility drugs (or a magical potion thingy) to have more kids. harry could’ve just been in the second batch or third. who knows how many kids they had?
well that last part might sound a little far-fetched and it is because im just typing what pops out of my mind right now and i should probably stop before i make a mess.
Posted on October 1, 2005 03:02 PM | #
Dumbledore got his hand killed when getting a horcruxe.
Posted on October 1, 2005 06:32 PM | #
I think Dumbldore should not of died.he is a main charicter and main charicters are not supposed to die.i also think she sshould of written about the first detention he had with Snape.it sounded pretty interesting.i also think there should be an 8th book for when he gets out of Hogwarts. it was pretty slow going though.about 3/4 of the book read ther still wasen’t much going on.i liked it when Harry and Dumbldore went into the Pensive.i thought it was cool to findout about Lord Voldmort’s past.i think Ron and Hermione should like each other.we haven’t heard from Cho Chung for a while and it is killing me!!! i thought Cho Chung should of been in the book more than she is.i really like how Ron falls in love with Lavender Brown.i also thought it was pretty funny when Ron was hypocritical to Ginny for snogging someone in public and he did it himself with Lavender Brown.i also thought it was pretty cute the name for Ginny’s pugmy puff.arnold the pugmy puff.Fred and George’s shop was really cool!!! Romilda Vane was really determined to get harry to take her to Slughorn’s Christmas party. i thought it was pretty cute and funny.Ron was pretty funny when he ate those Chocolate Cauldrons.it was funny that he loved Romilda Vane.i liked when he fell in love with Ginny.Malfoy was cool too. i liked Slughorn too. he wass really cool. well that is all.
Posted on October 2, 2005 11:02 AM | #
yeah okay who cares what you LIKE in the book
Posted on October 2, 2005 11:58 AM | #
DAVE, go to hell, that’s the intire point of this topic. What you liked, and what you didn’t like. The people here are the ones who turned it off topic.
Isabella, I agree with you for about 90% of your post.
Posted on October 3, 2005 02:59 PM | #
Learn to write properly before you try anything.
– Will not retort anymore.
Posted on October 4, 2005 07:34 PM | #
lieing there and staring at the ceiling. Waiting for a sleepy feeling.
Posted on October 9, 2005 03:56 AM | #
ic i have sum catching up to do coz sum pplz has bn busy riting stuff ;]
ic the old regulars r still here hehe…w00t
ill read lataz
Posted on October 10, 2005 06:21 AM | #
Sirius Black is an animagus of a black dog and the Sirius constillation is a constilation of a dog. Regulus is also a constilation, of a lion. So maybe he could be an animagus of a lion. Have we seen any lions in this series???
Posted on October 12, 2005 04:30 PM | #
just a gryffindor lion. but that’s right. there was a sphynx in the 4th book but i don’t htink that’s it.
Posted on October 13, 2005 08:38 PM | #
omfg i cant read all of kanas’ theories….but so far so good but i dunt really care…i mean do u really think that jkr is gonna end the book wif these thing that pplz have guessed -yet they have dug very hard to give evidence and bak up the story for.
shell probably throw more n more stuff in the nxt book making it more intriguing, i mean that is so obvious. And if she is going to add more stuff coz we do not noe all the things in the winzardry world i daresay that the theories that are farfreathed -in comments that is- would b more likely. I, for one though dont have any razzle dazzle ideas but im not trying to strain my brain to much. coz i suggest pplz -such as kanas- mite be disappointed in the end and of course that would we a terrible way to end the series….okai back to readind kanas’ theories….>.
-my big mumbo jumbo speech was pretty useless so if u have the need to bag me i understand coz i feel gay now
Posted on October 14, 2005 02:55 AM | #
u r gay phoenix
anyway i read that agen n it sounded stupid…n i had a lot of spelling mistakes…i want the nxt book to be more surprising [duh] but not crame a whole heap of crap like the recent book…it would b ok if kanas’ theories [including everyone else’ he stole from =)] were in the book but it would take a while for her to explain coz it wouldnt be exciting if harry had to narrate so much… ok pplz im gone 4eva…nice to reminisce bout hp n all ta rest…
well phoenix out!
bye everyone ….. O.o
hehe
Posted on October 14, 2005 03:04 AM | #
Maybe Fawkes is going to have something to do with kiilling Voldemort. I mean that is the filling of both Harry’s and Voldemort’s wand.
Posted on October 14, 2005 04:25 PM | #
=O
im back coz i saw sumfing shocking
quote:
1378. lily said:
who is regulus black
oh my as well….
Posted on October 14, 2005 05:28 PM | #
nojoke wut an IDIOT! sucks buttsweat no doubt.
Posted on October 15, 2005 08:21 AM | #
get out of my house. regulus black is sirius brother lily
Posted on October 16, 2005 06:16 AM | #
i feel like cumming bak…hmm….talking bout…?
harry potter i suggest…
Posted on October 17, 2005 02:24 AM | #
how bout the up n cuming movie ^_^
thats good enough eh? fits into zee topic snug…looks coolios…but missing sumfing?? i dunno
DIIISCUSSS !!!
Posted on October 17, 2005 02:26 AM | #
Fleur doesen’t look as pretty as i had imagined in the movie
Posted on October 17, 2005 02:23 PM | #
Do you know where you can see the trailer on the internet???
Posted on October 17, 2005 05:05 PM | #
yeh i saw it yonk ago…[yonk meaning two months ago]
i agree she was supposed to b like super hot…
she turned out to b sum average “good looking” chick wif an accent…lets hope shes a good actor *crosses fingers*
continue discussing~
Posted on October 18, 2005 12:36 AM | #
you guys talk friekin weird! sumfing? it is spealt “something” and wiv? It’s spealt with you retards, anyways here is a link to the trailer
http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/gobletoffire/
Posted on October 18, 2005 10:03 AM | #
ur ta retard u gaybo
its call “shortcut”
n btw spealt is ACTUALLY spelt “spelt”
whos the dumbass now??
who the fuk would want ur retarded link???
piss off
Posted on October 19, 2005 01:14 AM | #
isn’t it SPELLED?
i bet the movie will go off and have it’s own stuff and i saw madeye moody and the eye was like an eyepatch and it made robot noises. im already dissapointed.
Posted on October 19, 2005 02:15 PM | #
-_-” its spelt or spelled same thing…
anyways is it a disappointment????
wellz the characters kinda changed….wat wif the hairstyle n all…seems like the movie will take foreva…how many more yrs until the half blood prince?
n have u seen cho chang….hopefully she can act i mean shes kinda an important role n all
but some things that they change in the movie are so uncalled for !!
Posted on October 19, 2005 11:36 PM | #
681. kansas said:
k well i’ll bb in like an hour or so cya bye
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:15 PM | #
682. Liza said:
and in the first book, it said that no one knew really how he died, cuz nearly headless nick didn’t ask him, and if snape made up the curse.. maybe snape killed him
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:19 PM | #
683. Liza said:
but it think bloddy baron is too old for snape to have killed him.. so someone else had to have known the curse
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:20 PM | #
684. kansas said:
i think all of the gohsts will have decent role in 7. a kid asked jk in an interview how wizards become ghosts. she just says that we will have to wait for book seven to find out. that’s y she hasn’t written much about it in the first six books. it will be A big climax in book seven.
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:22 PM | #
685. Liza said:
well it’s gonna have to be if it’s the last book, it has to wrap everything up
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:24 PM | #
686. kansas said:
i personally think that the grey lady of ravenclaw is in fact rowena ravenclaw herself. she knows dark secrets about the heir of slytherin or something. y wouldn’t she have a name like the bloody baron or sir nicholas… i don’t have book six with me id remember his full name…porpinkton or something nick…….porpinkton..w/e
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:27 PM | #
687. Liza said:
his full name is sir nicholas de mimsy-porpington
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:29 PM | #
688. kansas said:
what do u guys think will happen with filch. also i think there might be a secret passage off of the library. u know one of the classic pull a book off a shelf a reaveal what’s in the debts of big scary tunnel #1. ??????
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:34 PM | #
689. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Yes I agree. But whenever the ghosts are mentioned they never really describe the grey lady of Ravenclaw. I mean they don’t talk about how the Fat Friar died but the portray him as a jolly ghost. Nick is a normal ghost and the Baron is gaunt and silent. WAIT!! Why is Peeves afraid of the Baron? Maybe Peeves killed the Baron and then Baron came back to haunt him! That is why Peeves is afraid of him!
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:36 PM | #
690. Liza said:
lol, maybe and in the first book it said they (ron harry hermione) came across a secret passage in the statue of smarmy.. that may come into effect
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:37 PM | #
691. Liza said:
maybe.. because the bloody baron is the only one that can control peeves
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:38 PM | #
692. kansas said:
brb gotta go vacum. ugh
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:43 PM | #
693. kansas said:
liza i thought of the exact same thing about the statue of smarmy acouple of days ago! but i didn’t post it. wasn’t it lee jordan who said he found a secret passage and the twins figured it was “..the behiind the statue of smarmy we found in our first week.” how do we know the one with smarmy is one of the four fred and george tell harry not to take in book three while showing and giveing him the maradaur’s map
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:49 PM | #
694. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Why is it that the Bloody Baron is the only one able to control Peeves?
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:49 PM | #
695. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
That is probably going to play a big role in the last book! Maybe Voldermort or some Death Eaters are know about it! That is how they get in and then the last battle will take place there! And I also think one Harry, Ron ,and Hermionie turn seventeen they are going to join the Order! Well Harry atleast. And maybe at the end the wizarding world will be exposed to the muggle world and they will live in peace
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:53 PM | #
696. kansas said:
i’ll bet the bloody baron was murdered by a dark wizard at the top of the w/e tower. nick says the bloody baron mopes around at the top of i don’t remember what tower. “..it is a favorite past time of his.”
i also believe that peeves and the bloody baron knew eachother while they were alive
-i don’t have my hbp with me
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:06 PM | #
697. Liza said:
oh ya your right, lee jordan did thought he found a new passage but the weasleys thought it was the Gregory the Smarmy statue one. there were 7 passages in all. and finch know about 4. there was one behind a mirror that was completely blocked off, but they still used it until it caved in, and there’s one right by the whooping willow, and one that leads right into the cellar of Honeydukes, and the entrance was through the one-eyed old corne’s hump.. but that’s only three they said
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:08 PM | #
698. kansas said:
what idea is gonna play a big role dumby’s man?
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:10 PM | #
699. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Two things…
I think Peeves used Sectrumspectra on the Baron. This is some how going to play a bg role in the outcome of the book.
There probably is a Death Eater who knows about the Smarmy passage and will lead LV and all the Death Eaters into Hogwarts for the final battle
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:13 PM | #
700. Liza said:
maybe.. but then why would peeves be scared of the baron? wouldn’t it be the other way around?
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:15 PM | #
701. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
But maybe he killed the Baron with Sectrumspectra and tehn the Baron haunted him or did something to him ato make him scared and then Peeves died! That is why he is scared maybe the Baron know what he is scared of!
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:19 PM | #
702. Liza said:
hmm, i suppose that’s good logic. but i do believe either way that the Bloody Baron was killed using the Sectrumspectra, and statue of Gregory of Smarmy may play a role.. but the passages will be big in the 7th book
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:21 PM | #
703. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Oh yes the passages will be huge in the seventh book. I bet the Death Eater might attack HoneyDukes to take all the candy and get fat(just kidding rofl) but maybe they wanna attack the school so they will take over Hogsmeade and then discover the passage in HoneyDukes and will discover the passageway and get in. And they will also plan to torture the ids by blowing the candy up!jk rofl!
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:25 PM | #
704. Liza said:
all those suggestions are possible lol (j/k)
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:32 PM | #
705. kansas said:
back
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:40 PM | #
706. kansas said:
who thinks hagrid is going to die…
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:47 PM | #
707. kansas said:
i do. i can tell by robbie coltranes ‘sort of’ answer he gave when asked if he was signed for all seven movies
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:52 PM | #
708. Liza said:
idk if he would
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:53 PM | #
709. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
That is true well actually he has to be signed for all seven because e survived the sixth. I think Hagrid might die. It seems like the thing he would do saving Harry or something
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:54 PM | #
710. kansas said:
anybody there
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:59 PM | #
711. Liza said:
ya i was gonna say he’d prbly die saving harry or something.. but hagrid has never been there when it came to fighting anything.
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:01 PM | #
712. Liza said:
(except in the last book he was there when snape and malfoy were escaping)
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:02 PM | #
713. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
That is very true. I think Hagrid wil do a lot of fighting. Hehasn’t fought at all except in the 5th and 6th books
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:04 PM | #
714. kansas said:
but guys it’s probably pretty hard for him to fight considering he was expelled over 50 previous, and only in his third year. his wand was “repaired” after being turned into woodchips. and his wand is disguised as a fricken pink umbrella. and he was banned to use magic
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:17 PM | #
715. kansas said:
i can’t do this right now my computer is really slow right now. be back tonight. i’ll have some ideas
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:22 PM | #
716. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Same here I will be back tonight. Gotta go now.
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:58 PM | #
717. KK said:
At first i thought R.A.B was that person (who everyone else thinks he is) too, but then that makes it so obvious now, everyone knows about it, would J.K do something that obivious, i think she might throw in a loop or something…as for snape being part of the plan, defiantly, and some facts about dumbledore not being dead too…lets hope not:-(
Posted on August 18, 2005 05:56 PM | #
718. kansas said:
kk, my idea was that trevor the toad is regulus black, he is an animangi, he is searching the castle for more horcruxes. this would explain him always getting away from neville
-also, raed my favorite theory starting at post 164-188, u don’t have to, but it think you’ll find it interesting
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:40 PM | #
719. kansas said:
(163**-188)
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:45 PM | #
720. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya JK made it way to obvious for RAB to Regelus Alphard Black and JK will make things obvious and then kill that idea by doing something noone expected. And I think it is more of JK’s style to have Mundugus nick the locket.
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:58 PM | #
721. Liza said:
ya it is quite obvious who RAD would be… so either Jk underestimated the cleverness of her readers.. or she did it on purpose to surprise everyone. most likely the second reason
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:16 PM | #
722. Liza said:
sorry.. ***RAB lol
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:16 PM | #
723. Marshall said:
Kansas i just wanted to say that there is no way that the goblet mudungus had was rowena ravenclaws because it had the mark of the black house on it.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:07 PM | #
724. kansas said:
anyone here anymore
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:32 PM | #
725. kansas said:
marshal- never said it was bud
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:36 PM | #
726. Liza said:
yup
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:36 PM | #
727. kansas said:
did i ever claim that the goblet was rowena’s?
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:44 PM | #
728. kansas said:
most of these ideas are those of other people i’ve talked to—-• Immediately when Harry and Dumbledore were discussing the existence of another Horcrux, one previously owned by Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, I saw that Dumbledore had made a mistake. He pointed to the sword Harry had found in book 2, indicating that the “last remaining relic of Gryffindor’s” was safe and therefore not a Horcrux, implying that their efforts would probably be better put to use in looking for some artifact of Ravenclaw’s or some as-yet undiscovered Gryffindor treasure. What he failed to realize was that Gryffindor had in fact left behind another artifact, one which he and Harry were both quite familiar with – the Sorting Hat! It has been mentioned on various occasions that the Sorting Hat once belonged to Gryffindor, and if Dumbledore’s assumptions were correct, that Voldemort really did choose his Horcruxes based on their connection to the Hogwarts legacy, then the Sorting Hat seems the perfect choice. It is also one of the last places anyone would think to look – often the best hiding places are the ones that are not hidden. As soon as I thought of it, though, I thought that surely if it was a Horcrux, then Dumbledore would have detected it. Knowing J.K. Rowling’s style, though, I know that she thinks of everything, therefore she must have remembered that the Sorting Hat belonged to Gryffindor, making any oversight on Dumbledore’s part when pointing things out a potentially significant clue. Wow, try to count the commas in that sentence. I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling the Sorting Hat will probably play a role of some significance in the next book. Seeing as how the Sorting Hat was one of the first magical objects he encountered upon entering Hogwarts his first year, it would be fitting if that were also the last Horcrux he were to destroy in his final year (providing he even returns to Hogwarts, or that the school is open at all)
• Although the Sorting Hat may be a Horcruxe I seriously doubt it because when Dumbledore put on Guant’s ring it damaged his hand. All the kids that put the hat on would have some kind of brain damage and the characters seem fine. The hat says that Gryffindor took it off his head and the founders put brains in the hat making it able to talk and think.
• Harry Potter is Voldy’s Gryffindor Horcruxe. All this non-sense about “transference of power” and what not… Rowling has said that we get clues as to HP6 & 7 with Chamber of Secrets… what were some of the things? well, we learn Harry is a “true” Gryffindor… ok. We know that Tom Riddle even noticed how “they even look alike”… ok… the sorting hat was confused a bit in HPSS, but stood its ground in CoS…ok… and, we also know now that in order to create the Horcruxe, you have to kill someone, which breaks off your soul and then you capture it and place it somewhere. Ok…. now, what happened before Harry was attacked as a child? Voldy killed his mother. Ok. So, the spell is complete… BUT the murder was a sacrifice from love… so that’s what binded the soul to the Horcrux, in this case Harry… THIS is why he has so many similiarities to Voldy… it’s not Quirrel who couldn’t stand to be touched by Harry, but Vldy… THIS is why Harry and Voldy were at a standstill during GoF… THIS is why Voldy couldn’t possess Harry for long in OoP… THIS is why they were connected for so long… so either Harry IS the Horcruxe, or his lightning scar is (remember reference to lightning in Book 6??)… hence Dumbledore’s initial comment in HPSS “curse marks can come in handy”… Dumbley also said “as long as the Horcruxe is out there, Voldy is in essence immortal…?? if that’s the case, then the prophecy might not mean Harry has to kill Voldy… rather, Harry has to kill Voldy AND then make the ULTIMATE sacrifice, much like his mother and father did. My ultimate prediction, then, is Harry will kill Voldy and then himself. (Oh, and he will forgive Snape)
• harry potter cannot be the horcrux. one thing is that as dumbledore had said, giving a fragment of a soul that can think for itself is inadvisable. plus, would you give something that is very precious to an enemy? also voldemort used the avada kedavra. dumbledore and the fake moody did say that the spell that caused the scar is the killing curse.
• As I read the HBP I could not think that the perfect Horcrux would be the House Cup that is awarded at the end of term. It is a very significant artifact of Hogwarts.
• I doubt the house cup is a horcrux beacuse people hold it and they probably would have been cursed like with Guant’s ring.
• If Harry tried to Summon the Horcrux then nothing should’ve happened because when Bellatrix tried to Summon the Prophecy she couldn’t because it was broken. Since that wasn’t a real Horcrux then nothing should have happened.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:53 PM | #
729. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Wait who said that the ring damaged Dumbldore’s hand?
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:19 PM | #
730. Liza said:
hmm interesting thought dumby’sman. it could have damaged it when he took it.. but that’s still a good question
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:52 PM | #
731. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya I was thining more along the linesof got hurt while getting the ring. Not got hort weaing the ring…
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:11 PM | #
732. Liza said:
it never crossed my mind that he’d put the ring on. just took it, and put it in his pocket.. i think he got hurt getting it.. just who/what hurt him?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:12 PM | #
733. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Remember Dumbledore said that LV put magical enchantments? I think that was what hurt him!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:17 PM | #
734. Liza said:
probably. but… this might not make sense.. but… hear me out.. ok, so wut if, dumbledore knew RAB, and knew they already had the locket, but had to take Harry to the cave, because the potion stuff was the Draught of the Living Dead, and that’s why he had to drink it all so it’d have it’s effect? he needed Harry to witness it, and to help him take him back so Snape could do his little fake spell… i just don’t know why Dumbledore wouldn’t tell harry that someone else was working with him..
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:23 PM | #
735. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
And yes that makes perfect sense and maybe Dumbldoe wantd Harry to know how it would be to get a Horcrux!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:28 PM | #
736. Liza said:
yes, to show him.. how to look for magic, and wut not to touch, and to use common sense (like the use of water) … like a practice test thing
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:34 PM | #
737. Liza said:
anymore thoughts on my theory in 734. ??? anyone find it interesting and making sense??
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:40 PM | #
738. Liza said:
one more thing.. that’s why dumbledore said harry could go with him! he knew it would be safe for him. dumbledore would have never put harry into any kind of real danger i don’t think
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:48 PM | #
739. Lauren said:
Yes, I’m an avid Harry Potter fan and I know nearly everything about the books, but you people have no lives! You spend all day writing your far-fetched opinions instead of enjoying the story in a normal way. For God’s sake!How on earth can Mrs. Figg be Dumbledore’s sister?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:50 PM | #
740. Liza said:
you don’t know nearly everything about the books, there are many good points ppl have brought up on here.. altough yes some are very far fetched
Posted on August 18, 2005 11:02 PM | #
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Posted on August 19, 2005 01:47 AM | #
742. jack said:
oh sorry must of been a dream kansas. Isn’t it obvious what were talking about dumbledore through and through??????????? It’s a rac for bonnie wright (ginny weasley)!
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:29 AM | #
743. jack said:
race i meant, are u guy’s english like me cos if your not your sad to go on at 1 in the morning
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:30 AM | #
744. kansas said:
u guys dumbledore’s hand was totally useless to him if he knew he was going to “die”. i’m sure he knew what it would take to destroy the ring. there were enchantments and curses on it of course. voldy wasn’t just gonna leave it laying aroung in the gaunt house. dumbledore probably wanted to take the fastest way and intead of trying to unto curses he simply threw it on his hand. simply knowing that it would destroy it but at the same time he would have to sacrifice his own hand. i’m sure he regreted using his wand hand but he destroyed it. dumbledore knows what to do and knows what it takes to destroy a horcrux. like when he figured he had to simply drink the potion (whether it would keep him alive or not) that would be the logical and only way to get the potion out.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:35 AM | #
745. kansas said:
jay up there at post #id remember. u said that if harry and hermione were bro and sis that wouldn’t be important. of course it isn’t important. except for the fact that if voldemort ever found out about them the whole human world would be at stake. if he were to kill both of them, considering they’re his last desceandants, he would probably immediately be immortal. read the the idea explaining this at post 163 i think it is.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:50 AM | #
746. kansas said:
jack-ok sorry mister 2:30. that isn’t the time for most of us. we live in different time zones than where the website is located
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:11 AM | #
747. kansas said:
anyone here
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:06 AM | #
748. jay said:
kansas, yes of course it is important now if he would know she was harry’s sister. but first of all shes harry’s best friend which means she is always in danger anyways. and second of all when voldermort was persumed dead, at that point there was no reason for who ever was holding the secret to keep it a secret. in fact when voldermort died it would be perfect for the one holding the secret to reveal so harry could be reunited with his siter. but the secret was never revealed then and that is why i dont think hermione is harry’s sister.
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:09 AM | #
749. Dj W!ldc@rd said:
I think dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him….But Snape didn’t enjoy or mean it…so its nothhing else…i mean dumby was supposed to die but snape couldn’t do it…fully
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:30 AM | #
750. Easter said:
At the end of the sixth book, they have one golden day left. The train is leaving an hour after the funeral, so, there may be something that happens on the way home, and that’s why it was left out, or you are supposed to assume nothing happens because it was leaving on the “golden day”
Peeves was never alive. He is only a spirit of chaos (said by JK Rowling). That is why only Peeves can interact with his environments, whereas the ghosts can’t.
Book seven is supposed to be a direct continuation of book six, so it may start right at Hermione, Ron, and Harry still walking along the lake, or it could be on the way home, or the next day or something.
The Bloody Baron always goes to the Astronomy tower, just so you know. I doubt he was killed by the sectemsempra, because Snape invented it, but the Baron is too old, I think.
Just because the person who plays Hagrid said “sorta” for playing in all 7 movies, doesn’t mean Hagrid dies. You have to remember, no one except JK knows what happens, therefore Hagrid won’t know either. I think Hargid has a possibility of dieing, but I think his giantess mother’s skin will protect him again in a fight and Hargid’s going to kill someone.
I think Dumby hurt his hand when destroying the ring. Snape saved his life somehow, and Dumby only lost his hand because of Snape.
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:22 AM | #
751. kansas said:
easter-cool, how ‘bout from now on u think of an idea instead of rejecting everybody else’s. it’s kind of hard to think of a good discussion maker
Posted on August 19, 2005 09:32 AM | #
752. jack said:
hermione and harry brother and sister, who canme up with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gotta have same parents…
Posted on August 19, 2005 10:47 AM | #
753. Lauren said:
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Posted on August 19, 2005 10:48 AM | #
754. kansas said:
anybody on?
Posted on August 19, 2005 10:53 AM | #
755. kansas said:
lauren- like i said earlier. obviously mrguy was dropped on his head numerous times as a young child
Posted on August 19, 2005 11:01 AM | #
756. kansas said:
jack- it’s called adoption bud
Posted on August 19, 2005 11:03 AM | #
757. kansas said:
jack read posts 163-188.(harry/hermione)
Posted on August 19, 2005 11:09 AM | #
758. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Harry is realted to Hermionie.
Posted on August 19, 2005 01:46 PM | #
759. freE said:
i think that snape killed dumbledore with joy, snape is evil and devoted to the darkside. dumbledore is dead. harry will kill voldemort and kill himself at the same time.
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:11 PM | #
760. Liza said:
i don’t think they’re related… anyways, what does everyone think of Dumbledore knowing that the locket him and harry found wasn’t the real one, but he wanted Harry to go with him, because Dumbledore knew he would “die” and he needed to show Harry how to look for magic paths.. wut not to touch when looking for horcruxes.. etc. And the thing was the Draught of the Living Dead, and he needed harry to witness it, and also needed Harry to help him back to the school. And also HArry was surprised Dumby let him go with him to find the Horcruxe, because Dumbledore would’ve NEVER put HArry into any real danger.. (it was maybe like a practice test.. or something)
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:19 PM | #
761. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
All of that is untrue! Snape has to be good. I mean Dumbledore even says ‘to the well organized mind, death is the next great adventure’ And Dumbledore has to have the most organized mind ever! Severus… Severus…please. Dumbledore is pleading with Snape to kill him! Dumbledore isn’t afraid of death! And Harry won’t die killing Voldermort!
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:19 PM | #
762. Liza said:
ya, in ALL the books people suspect Snape for something and for being evil.. but also following those accusations, it always says.. DUMBLEDORE TRUSTS SNAPE… so obviously Snape isn’t really evil.. or he woouldn’t be part of the Order anyways
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:21 PM | #
763. Liza said:
one more thing following the post in #760, Sape hesistated when saying the avada kedavra, because he knew how powerful it was, and was afraid that wutever spell he was saying in his head might not work.. therefore he was scared he might actually kill dumbledore.
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:27 PM | #
764. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya I said that…
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:37 PM | #
765. freE said:
snape must be as good a wizard as voldemort and dumbledore too gain both of their trust. i am trully in 2 minds to which side he is on. But i know that dumbledore is dead
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:02 PM | #
766. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Yes I agree Snape is an exceptional wizard. Snape is good! I mean you know it! Just trust us. He is good. and Dumbledore isn’t dead…
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:13 PM | #
767. jay said:
this is going back a bit but does anyone remember in the fourth book when ppl were coming out of voldermorts wand. first came cedric then an old man then a women from the ministry(forgot her name) and then harrys parents. does anyone know who the old man was?
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:16 PM | #
768. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya the guy from the dream in the beggining of the book. The gardener!
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:17 PM | #
769. jay said:
i dont remember why he was killed. i have start reading all the books again
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:19 PM | #
770. kansas said:
i think that if snaoe is eveil he is just as good a wizard as albus and voldemort, but he’s not on either of their sides. he is a death eater (death stealer) i think that the eaters are going to follow in voldemort’s footsteps and attemp to becaome immortal like him. but snape believes there are easier and better ways to become immortal. “a potion that can even put a stopper in death.” he is not on voldemort’s side beacause he believes there are less evil ways to become immortal. once immortal he will kill voldemort and redeem himself witha ll of the glory he has always been after.-but his is only if he is evil. well is he evil if he’s plotting to kill voldy?w/e
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:19 PM | #
771. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
If Snape is evil then why will he kill Voldie? HE IS GOOD!
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:25 PM | #
772. Cho Chang said:
Loved the book, love some of your theories. I’m not going to embelish or dream up more theories, I’m here with a question that doesn’t seem to have been asked yet and I would appreciate your views.
Chapter 21 - The Unknowable Room. Harry is in the common room looking for a way of getting the memory from Slughorn, Ron, sitting with him, is writing his essay for Snape and Hermione is complaining about the Half Blood Prince’s scribbles in Harry’s potions book. On page 442 Kreacher and Dobby Apperate to give Harry their reports on Malfoy and then Disapperate (p.425).
When was anyone allowed to apperate in the castle or grounds of Hogwarts ? I was under the impression that the Death Eaters entered the castle by way of the vanishing cupboard, because they could not Apperate. Also on page 359 Twycross, the Apperation teacher says “As you may know it is usually impossible to Apperate or Disapperate within Hogwarts. The Headmaster has lifted this enchantment, purely within the Great Hall, for one hour”. So how did they do it ?
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:02 PM | #
773. Liza said:
hey.. i totally forgot about that! therefore dumbledore could have apperated or disapperated (if he was on the tomb) when it lit on fire… so that theory wasn’t “complete crap” dumby’s man.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:15 PM | #
774. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Well house elves are very powerful magical creatures. They can probably even though the enchantment is there…
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:18 PM | #
775. Liza said:
then so can dumbledore prbly, since he too is very powerful
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:20 PM | #
776. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
BUT Dumbledore isn’t a house elf! Unless you are saying he is…jk rofl. However powerful he maybe he can’t cuz he is a house elf…
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:44 PM | #
777. Ch Chang said:
Remember it was Dumbledore who cast all the charms on Hogwarts in the first place ;)
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:49 PM | #
778. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
OHHHHH! So you are saing that Dumbledore might have tken off the enchantment while falling! That is a possbility…
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:11 PM | #
779. Liza said:
it might not have been while he was falling.. but he did take of the enchantment when they entered the grounds on the brooms..
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:35 PM | #
780. Cho Chang said:
That was only the enchantment for the entrance, there are many enchantments throughout the grounds and castle, but it still doesn’t answer my question about the houseelves….or maybe they are just very magical !!
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:06 PM | #
781. Easter said:
My believe is still that Dumby is in some way still alive and and Snape is still good. The reason as to why Dumby trusts Severus is to be revealed in 7. I think the fact that Dumby is an animagus (presummeably a pheonix) will be important, and also the fact that Dumby is able to become invisble without an invisibility cloak will also be important.
Snape is a really powerful wizard (probably just as powerful as Voldemort). James and Sirius were also really powerful (James stronger of course), but Snape said that James and Sirius would only attack 4 on 1.
I’ve always thought that Dumby was a lot stronger than Voldy. Voldy fears only death, where as Dumby only seems to fear … ummm … Harry getting hurt? (I don’t really know) … I think Dumby staged the horcruxe search thing, because as someone allready said, I doubt Dumby would risk Harry’s life.
It says that the house-elves can apparate because they use a different kind of magic. House-elves use very powerful magic that wizards don’t use or something. That’s why they can apparate, and btw, so can Fawkes.
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:35 PM | #
782. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Everything that Easter said makes perfect sense and I agree with him…
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:26 PM | #
783. Easter said:
Of course everything I said makes perfect sense, I am God… lol, i’m bored …
JK Rowling stated that in book 7 someone will become magical, who didn’t think they were before. She also stated:
“Aunt Petunia is truly a muggle, but there is “a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye.” “She is not a squib, although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet.”“
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:45 PM | #
784. Matt said:
I agree with the RAB theory…I think Dumbledore is dead …I also think that Snape is good, mcgonagall said that dumbledore had an “ironclad” reason for trusting him…if he is evil, i think that dumbledore may have made an unbreakable vow with him…i also think that the locket in the blacks house is the horcrux…harry and ginny will end up together…sirius will come back…also, the conclusion i think will involve ron and hermione using their special skills to take out traps set by voldemort so harry can get to him…JUST LIKE IN THE 1ST BOOK!!!!!!!!…tell me what u think?
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:50 PM | #
785. Matt said:
one more quick thought…how AWESOME would it be if the final battle between Harry and voldemort took place at the DURSLEY’S!!!…cuz it seems that now that is the only place where harry is safe…how hilarious if one of the dursleys somehow aided harry in killing voldemort…
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:57 PM | #
786. Matt said:
what did dumbledore see when he drank the potion?
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:24 PM | #
787. kansas said:
liza- right after dumby’s man said that was complete crap i already said that you could easily be right. take a look
-also i think i’m done with this post, it’s turning into a debate where nobody agrees with anybody, dumby’s man having mood swings, and peple thinking they’re god! stupid! i’ll aid my info at another post. peace out. oh ya and dumby’s man, if snape was evil he would kill voldie because he may be a stronger wizard, he wants been reknowned for wanting ALL the glory. y not kill the world’s most powerful wizard. voldemort does magic that dumbledore would never be able to do. this doesn’t mean voldy is more powerful. this means dumby is too noble to use such powerful and mostly dark magic…CYA
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:26 PM | #
788. Liza said:
hmm.. i dunno if there will be a brawl at the dursleys between harry and voldy, but something might happen there, because it was made very clear that harry go back to the dursley’s house (that’s wut dumby wanted him to do..)so maybe dumby (if not dead) will show up at the dursley’s
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:28 PM | #
789. kansas said:
IF ANYONE NEW WANTS AN INTERESTING READ, TRY POSTS 163-188. I’M OUT.
Posted on August 19, 2005 08:28 PM | #
790. gkj said:
fgh
Posted on August 20, 2005 05:17 AM | #
791. ok said:
what are you all going on about? i mean seriously, its like you spend the whole day on this post, talking about a FICTION CHARACTER. kansas has got the right idea. i mean, its alright to have a chat about what you think might happen, but there are 800 posts on here. you have so overdone it. shame
Posted on August 20, 2005 05:23 AM | #
792. Matt said:
What did James do to save Snape…also, in book 3 when lupin transforms into a werewolf outside of the whomping willow, snape immediately tries to protect harry, ron, and hermione…if he were evil, couldn’t he just let them die and say “there was nothing I could do”?…just a thought…also, Hermione is harry’s bro
Posted on August 20, 2005 08:16 AM | #
793. Matt said:
What did james save snape from to make him indebted to him?…also, in PoA, when lupin changes to a werewolf outside of the whomping willow, snape immediately seeks to protect ron, harry, and hermione (you can see what i mean in the movie)…if he were evil, couldn’t he just let them be killed and say to people that he tried but there was nothing he could do?
Posted on August 20, 2005 08:18 AM | #
794. freE said:
your looking at it from dumbledores point of view, form voldemorts, he was also sure that snape is on his side. i think snape did not know who’s side he was on but had to kill dumbledore or he would get killed himself
Posted on August 20, 2005 08:24 AM | #
795. Matt said:
anyone here?
Posted on August 20, 2005 08:55 AM | #
796. freE said:
any1 here
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:18 AM | #
797. Matt said:
dumbledore isnt dead
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:21 AM | #
798. freE said:
anyone here
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:22 AM | #
799. freE said:
i think that dumbledore is dead because it keeps sayin that people cannot returne from the dead. Dumbledore also sed that he could make mistakes.
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:24 AM | #
800. freE said:
at the end when they retrieved the fake horcrux dumbledore said
“i am not scared, because i am with you harry”.
could this mean that harry is an exceptional wizard, or something else
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:26 AM | #
801. Easter said:
I agree that people here a little crazy with posting. I’ve seen about 50 posts just saying “brb” or useless one liners.
I thought of something else. I believe there is supposed to be more people dieing in book 7. So, maybe someone like Regulus (if he is alive) will die. If not him, maybe Ron (I think Ron’s an idiot and should die for being so stupid about Hermione).
And to whomever said that Harry will fight Voldy at the Dursley’s, and someone will help him, that could be true, because as I stated above, there is something about Petunia which hasn’t been revealed yet.
I think some of you will find this site interesting: http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml
Posted on August 20, 2005 09:58 AM | #
802. Easter said:
I think Harry has hidden powers which Dumbledore realises, but Harry doesn’t believe he has. Dumbledore continuously states that love is very powerful, but Harry is too blind to see …
I believe James just told Snape not to go into the tunnel under the womping willow, therefore preventing him from being mauled (sp?) by Lupin. Snape was, I believe, truly sorry about what happened, because James did once save Snape’s life, and, as some people believe, Snape may have liked Lily.
Posted on August 20, 2005 10:03 AM | #
803. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya you are right Easter.
Posted on August 20, 2005 12:08 PM | #
804. freE said:
anybody know any other message bords
Posted on August 20, 2005 01:39 PM | #
805. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
freE: This is the only messsage board that you can post on without registering. There are many other boards such as SnitchSeeker.com but you have to register to post…
Posted on August 20, 2005 02:33 PM | #
806. Fawkes said:
I agree that Snape is actually good and that Dumbledore is a phoenix animagus. Nobody is bringing up something important from the the third book. When Harry was talking to Dumbledore, Dumbledore says something like “I’m very much mistaken if Lord Voldemort wants someone in his service with a life debt to Harry Potter” about Harry saving Wormtail’s life. This HAS to come up in the 7th book. I also think a Weasley will die, since the people Harry cares about always die and something important will happen at the Dursley’s, since Dumbledore really wanted Harry to return there this last summer. I think Regulus is still alive too. By the way, is there any textual proof that Dumbledore is an animagus?
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:06 PM | #
807. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Fawkes, There is no textual proof that Dumbedore is an Animagi, but there is a good binch of evidence that he is. Such as the Phoenix rising out of the flames…
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:30 PM | #
808. Fawkes said:
What does everyone think happened to SLytherin’s locket, if it really was found in Sirius’s house in the 5th book? I’m betting either Kreacher stole it or more likely Mundungus stole it and then sold it, so Harry will have trouble tracking it. I bet that Neville, obviously Snape and maybe Dedalus Diggle (keeps coming up) or Tonks will have big roles in the coming book.
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:38 PM | #
809. Fawkes said:
Oh yeah, I also think Luna will have a big role- although I dont think it will be directly with a Horcrux. I think the undecided Horcrux will be found by Harry’s parents place in Godric’s (Gryffindor) Hollow.
Posted on August 20, 2005 04:41 PM | #
810. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya That make a lot of sense. Except I think JK just threw Luna iut there because she wanted to lead us teh wrong. Though I could be completely mistaken…
Posted on August 20, 2005 05:08 PM | #
811. Easter said:
There is proof Dumbledore is an animagus. I’ve posted about 5 links now … I’ll post it again …
“He is a registered animagus, though his animagus form is unknown.”
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Albus+Dumbledore&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=Albus%20Dumbledore
(under known skills [half way down])
Posted on August 20, 2005 06:11 PM | #
812. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya that is pretty sensible.
Posted on August 20, 2005 06:29 PM | #
813. Easter said:
Might I add, Dumbledore was the transfigueration (sp?) teacher, so I’m pretty sure he would be good at transfiguering (sp?) himself.
Posted on August 20, 2005 07:47 PM | #
814. muggle girl said:
firstly wonderfiul topics - couple of points…
Surley the horcruxe found at the end has no connection to the one found at grimmuld place owing to the fact that wasnt it supposed to be the locket of slytherin? they would have noticed slytherins mark on the locket whilst attempting to open it!
i do not wish to believe that dumbledore or sirus are dead and gone i must say i like the idea that wit was staged (dumbledore and snape) for the good of malfoy -god knows why!-, but i think the theory that dumbledore is animagus, a poenix combining with harry seeing one fly from the flames at the funeral is wonderful and i hope it is correct!!
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:00 AM | #
815. muggle girl said:
firstly wonderfiul topics - couple of points…
Surley the horcruxe found at the end has no connection to the one found at grimmuld place owing to the fact that wasnt it supposed to be the locket of slytherin? they would have noticed slytherins mark on the locket whilst attempting to open it!
i do not wish to believe that dumbledore or sirus are dead and gone i must say i like the idea that wit was staged (dumbledore and snape) for the good of malfoy -god knows why!-, but i think the theory that dumbledore is animagus, a poenix combining with harry seeing one fly from the flames at the funeral is wonderful and i hope it is correct!!
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:00 AM | #
816. muggle girl said:
oh and another thing- if the locket found in the cave was not the true horcruxe why when harry attempted to summon it did the defences come into play - surley the locket could not have responded as harry would have had to say ‘accio locket’.
……or were the defences made to respond the the specific words ‘accio horcruxe’ or words to that effect?
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:15 AM | #
817. Easter said:
I think they were made to defend against the words … JK Rowling stated that one horcruxe is kind of obvious for close readers, that’s why a lot of people the the locket in Black’s house was it. The probably didn’t notice the mark because they may not have noticed.
Posted on August 21, 2005 05:39 AM | #
818. freE said:
i think there is a real locket in the cave, and voldemort put that fake one there for people to take it as its fake. rab is just made up.
Posted on August 21, 2005 06:44 AM | #
819. Fawkes said:
I think the real locket was in the Black’s house. JKR has a habit of slipping things in but not clearing them up till later. No one was looking for SLytherin’s marking at Sirius’s house and it would have been much too obvious if JKR had pointed it out then.
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:55 AM | #
820. Easter said:
Agreed with Fawkes.
Dumbledore’s brother is the bar tender at the Hog’s Head, so perhaps he could be more important in 7, because Dumble’s cousin (Rosmerta) was used in 6.
JK Rowling stated that there is a member of the Order of Phoenix who we know, but has not yet been “properly” introduced, who will be important. So, this could be Dedalus Diggle (part of the advanced guard in OoTP), Sturgis Podmore (lived through the first war, was attacked by death eaters in OoTP and was discovered in the Ministry of Magic and sent to Azkaban for trespassing), or perhaps even Aberforth Dumbledore (brother of Albus, bar tender of Hog’s Head)
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:17 AM | #
821. Easter said:
In interviews with Rowling, she implies Harry is not related to Godric Gryffindor; however this has never been confirmed. It could be that Harry is related, just JK doesn’t want to say, or simply Harry isn’t related. I think there will be somethingg important happening in Godric’s Hollow. Remember, Godric’s Hollow is a town, not a house. So perhaps, it could happen other than were Harry lived for a year and two months of his life, in his parents home.
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:37 AM | #
822. Fawkes said:
I think that Aberforth will play a role too. JKR id not properly say the Hog’s Head barman was him (although it basically a fact now) and so it will probably come up as important later, or why would she sneak him in. Is Rosemerta really Dumby’s cousin?
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:55 AM | #
823. freE said:
i think neville and luna will play a big part in book 7. harry and ginny will get back together and a member of the order of the phoenix will have a greater role, so will fred and george. godrics hollow and godric griffindor are just a coincidence; its far too obvious and J.K is tricking us.
Posted on August 21, 2005 09:47 AM | #
824. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Rosemerta sn’t really Dumbledore’s cousin. Plus I think JK might have discreetly put the Aberforth thing to throw us of the track. I think the goat smelling thing was a coincidence. I mean so what if it smells like goats and Aberforth did something to goats? I mean JK will just slip some obscure clues in there to throw us of track. She also could have done that without thinking. Just to describe how bad the bar was…
Posted on August 21, 2005 09:53 AM | #
825. Easter said:
JK Rowling stated that Aberforth was the bar tender of the Hog’s Head. It is a confirmed fact. And I believe in the sixth book it says Rosmerta is Albus’s cousin.
… Nevermind, after looking it up, it doesn’t say Rosmerta is Albus’s cousin. I misread “custum” as “cousin” … Don’t ask how I misread it, like 3 times.
Posted on August 21, 2005 12:20 PM | #
826. Brian Pugh said:
I Think That maybe the Black tapestry in 12 Grimmauld Place is a horcrux! It seems too farfetched but in book five in chapter six Kreacher is very protective of the tapestry! And people who do not support Voldemort are burnt out! So Please respond and tell me what you think!
Posted on August 21, 2005 12:24 PM | #
827. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Maybe that is true. BUT I don’t think that the black Family would tell Kreacher…
Posted on August 21, 2005 12:53 PM | #
828. Easter said:
I don’t think that’s true, because Voldy had no affiliation with the Black’s (other than Regulus). I believe Voldy only used 1 of slytherin’s things, which is the locket.
I just read a post some few hundred posts before this, saying that people are speculating whether Slytherin has anymore descendants. No, he doesn’t. Voldy is his last descendant. Tom Riddle Sr. didn’t have any kids other than Voldy, btw.
Posted on August 21, 2005 01:38 PM | #
829. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
You don’t know that. I mean it also says that Tom Riddle Senior like the other lady in the memory. So after he left Merope he could have married the other lady and had a kid…
Posted on August 21, 2005 02:00 PM | #
830. freE said:
i the message in the fake locket RAB refers to voldemort as the dark lord. Only death eaters refer voldemort as the dark lord (obviously whoever is destroying lockets is not a death eater). This could be Regulus Alphard Black (RAB) but is still in the habit of saying Dark Lord.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:17 PM | #
831. trese said:
he is so totally true.radical. He is not lame. He is right.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:18 PM | #
832. freE said:
trese is weird
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:19 PM | #
833. jay said:
im just glad next book is going to be all action. no quidditch. in every book i find the middle predictable and boring. hopefully the whole book will be like the endings of all the books. after harry has alot of ppl to kill. though bellitrix will be killed by neville.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:24 PM | #
834. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
I think RAB is Regelus Alphard Black. Why I think this is:
Usually JK will do somthing that we won’t expect her to do. BUT I think now she will count on our suspicions so she will think we will think we will think that it istn’t RAB so she will make it RAB.
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:32 PM | #
835. jay said:
the thing with r.e.b. is that harry knows him and hermione looked for the name but they couldnt even guess black. i find that wierd
Posted on August 21, 2005 03:35 PM | #
836. Brian Pugh said:
This sounds a little bit far fetched but what if The Black Tapestry is a horcrux? I mean In Chapter six of book five Kreacher is very very protective of it! I Also think that Rab might be Amycus , Maybe he didn’t like the name regulus and went by his middle name Amycus instead. It seemed that Dumbledore knew him. And he might of be just playing along, to make him look good. I don’t know, Just write back and tell me what you think!
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:33 PM | #
837. Fawkes said:
I don’t think that the tapestry is a horcrux. The Black house does not have anything significant for Voldemort and he did not kill anyone there, so why would he put a Horcrux there- especially because he if Half-Blood, so would not be on the tapestry himself! Dumbledore would have tried to get it down too if he had a suspicion that it was a Horcrux.
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:46 PM | #
838. Easter said:
I believe JK said that Tom Riddle Sr. had no other kids. I’ll look it up, but last time it took me about 2 hours to find.
I still say the tapestry isn’t a horcruxe, but it could be, you never know. I’m not sure what happened to Regulus. Dumbledore may have made it so he looked dead, because he said to Draco that Voldy couldn’t kill Draco if he was “already dead” (US Edition only). But, for all we know Regulus may be simply dead.
JK said the miror that Sirius gave Harry will be used (I believe) … okay, going to look for more facts now.
Posted on August 21, 2005 04:49 PM | #
839. Fawkes said:
Yeah, JKR said that Tom killed his dad and grandparents to wipe out the Riddle line completely. Those connecting mirrors will definitely be used- as they never came up in the 5th book but something that important (very magical and related with James) will definitely come up again. Or so I think. I think Harry didn’t think of Black because Sirius told him Regulus was killed as a Death Eater, and would not think a Death Eater would do something like that (he apparently never noticed that it was signed to the Dark Lord-Death Eater term)
Posted on August 21, 2005 05:03 PM | #
840. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Well JKR is very elusive so I don’t believe everything she says.
Posted on August 21, 2005 06:46 PM | #
841. charlie said:
You will think I am the Master after you read this blog! ;-)
Read chapter one again, and then again, and note how passively that Snape answers questions. He does NOT know what the ladies are talking about, but instead he makes open-ended statements that LEAD the woman to telling him that Malfoy is going to kill someone, or else Malfoy DIES. Snape tells all this to dUMMBELDORE, that’s what they were yelling about in the forest,,,but THEY THINK it means kill POTTER! Read chapter one again and you will see that they nEVER talk about who Malfoy is going to kill? They never say Dumbledore! But Snape and dUMBLEDORE THINK IT MEANS POTTER!
When Snape has Dumbledore cornered, and the Death Eaters are watching, they are both shocked and stunned that the deal is that Dumbledore needs to die. Snape thought that he was protecting POTTER from Dumbeldore, and snape was going to die for Potter, but instead he has to kill the leader of the rebellion, Dumbledore,,,,and he takes partricualr offence at Potter calling him coward. He was going to DIE for Potter….also note that with Dumbledore dead, which is a big surprise to snape, and potter, and dumbledore.,,,any PLAN that they had is out the window. Dumbledore and Snape thought that Malfoy was afcter Potter, and they would intercept the attempted murder. In reality, The assassinatiaon target was Dumbledore, and now Snape is all alone as the spy in the Dark Lord’s Tower. feel free to email and discusss! anyone on tonite?
Posted on August 21, 2005 06:48 PM | #
842. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Wow! No offense Charlie but that is the most far-fetched pointless ideaI have ever heard. I mean Dumbledore would have his wayd of really knowing waht it was. And if Snape really didn’t know the plan he was using Occlumency when he walks to the window. SO he does know the plan. And I think him and Dumbledore can telepathically commnicate(I know this is pretty crazy) so he told Dumbledore that and he also told Dumbledore she was gonna ask him to make the Unbreakable Vow and Dumbledore told him to make the Vow..
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:05 PM | #
843. Easter said:
Charles, everything you said was already discussed a million times in these posts, but people more or less agreed that it was more likely Snape used Legilimens (not Occlumency, Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh, close enough though). I believe most people also agreed that Dumbledore was trying to get Harry to get Snape, so that Snape could perform the “killing curse” on Dumbledore to get further into Voldemort’s mind. Btw, that was chapter 2, not 1 (1 was “the other minister”). People are more arguing about when Snape really did do the “killing curse” and not something else.
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:39 PM | #
844. CyberJohn said:
okay im too lazy too catch up on every thing i’ve missed so, someone just please bive me a quick summary of what the new ideas are? please. i have some new ones too
Posted on August 21, 2005 07:52 PM | #
845. Brian Pugh said:
Ok I do have a responce for something I read here somebody said that Hermione was Harry’s brother but I don’t think a Muggle Family would take a wizard in even though most families are not like the Dursleys. But the more I think about it it could be just another big Surprise J.K. Pops on us! And whats up with Bill and Fleur? Do you really think they will be married? Will fleur turn out to be good? Or Bad? Write Back your responce!
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:33 PM | #
846. alan said:
Andromeda Black (mother of tonks.) Snapes with Voldermort. Snapes last connection with the order would have been Harry. He would have had to tell Harry that he was still in the order and this was planned when they were alone in the end or else whos snape going to pass info on Voldermort to. or will he just fight a one man battle against Voldermort from the inside. Na. Regulus Black does sound good just havent heard anyone mention andromeda.
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:41 PM | #
847. Brian Pugh said:
Even if Dumbledore is dead i think It might be a good thing beacuse Harry has to get the Horcruxes by himself! Rowling is very deep in her writing Harry Potter is all about being taught and teaching other people! It’s a good thind dumby died
Posted on August 21, 2005 08:48 PM | #
848. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Brian: Well I am not sure I mean the theories here are pretty convincing when you read all of them. Fleur is a spy for somebody.
Posted on August 21, 2005 09:33 PM | #
849. freE said:
i think something weird will happen at or because of the wedding
Posted on August 22, 2005 04:51 AM | #
850. Fawkes said:
Alan: Snape would not have told Harry this because he was in the middle of all the Death Eaters and one could have used Occlumency on Harry if they thought Snape was beign suspicious, and then they still wouldn’t trust Snape, which was what all this was for. BTW, I brought up before but no one talked about- at the end of the third book Dumbledore tells Harry that Wormtail has a life debt to him because he saved Wormtail’s life. That is probably going to play a really big role in the 7th book, since, as Dumby said, Voldemort won’t want someone in his service with a life debt to Harry Potter.
Posted on August 22, 2005 07:49 AM | #
851. freE said:
dumbledore said to harry
“if you save someones life, they always return it
Posted on August 22, 2005 08:55 AM | #
852. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
Ya I think Wormtails debt to Harry will play a REALLY big role in the seventh book. I think like five different people will die to save Harry. Dumbedore already ‘supposedly’ died. Then Lupin will be killed by Wormtail when he(Wormtail) will try to kill Harry. Then Pettigrew will remember his life debt to Harry and then he will die once when Voldermort tries to kill Harry the first time. When Wormtail defends Harry Voldermort is suprised he will stare at Wormtail’s dead body and then Harry will attack him and he will flee. Then I think Fleur is a spy for Voldermort and Bill will die at the Wedding to save Harry from Fleur. But somebody at the wedding (maybe Mr.Wesly) will capture OR kill Fleur. I don’t think kill because it is illegal. And lastly I think that Hagrid will die in the last battle when he saves Harry from nowhere, Voldermort is so surprised he’ll just stand there and then Harry will kill him. Although I think these are people close to Harry I think this is true. I mean I don’t think that JKR would kill any of the trio.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:21 AM | #
853. Brian Pugh said:
Did Anyone See the Missing link in book Five? I Don’t know if you would actually call it that but Sirius is talking to Harry and he talksabout his Grandparents but he never mentions their names? I would of thought this would have been known by now. Did Sirius Not want to Tell Harry Who his Grandparents were or something ? It just seems suspicious! Respond!
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:23 AM | #
854. Easter said:
I don’t think JKR is going to kill the trio either (or Ginny). Hagrid has a possibility of dieing, but I don’t think Lupin will die.
According to JKR, Dumbledore’s “gleam of triumph” (in book 4) will be important to the plot of Book 7. I re-read book 4, and Dumbledore’s “gleam of triumph” happens when Harry tells Dumbledore that Voldemort used Harry’s blood so he can touch Harry now. “Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph”
I’m currently re-reading book 5. It is really obvious that Umbridge sent the Dementors after Harry, when they’re in the hearing room, when Dumbledore suggests the Dementors were sent by someone, Umbridge twitched and stuff, and before then she didn’t even move. Going through the book though, and I am looking for things which may be important to book 7. The locket which can’t be opened is the only sign so far.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:29 AM | #
855. Easter said:
Harry’s grandparents died of wizarding illness. (According to JKR). I looked that up too.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:31 AM | #
856. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
I don’t remeber Sirius talking about his grandparents but maybe I skipped it. BUT he also didn’t talk about his parents’s names… So maybe.
Posted on August 22, 2005 10:22 AM | #
857. jacob said:
what if dumbeldore has an horcrux and he really did not die and he left with fawkes and was not dead but weaked.
Posted on August 22, 2005 03:22 PM | #
858. Brian Pugh said:
Godric Griffindor an Godric’s Hollow Have got to be a coiciedence! JkR Would not be so blunt in that Way! Where do You Think The Horcruxes are? What Do You Think About Slughorn?
Posted on August 22, 2005 03:55 PM | #
859. Dumbledore’s man Thorugh and Thorugh said:
The Godric thng isn’t a coincidence. JK has to make sime thing obvious.
Posted on August 22, 2005 04:29 PM | #
860. Paty said:
Hi everybody!
Don’t you think the reason Harry has given his friends for Dumbledore trusting Snape very weak? If he trusted Snape so much, it should be for a very strong reason. What do you think?
Posted on August 22, 2005 05:53 PM | #
861. Brian Pugh said:
Yes, It should But Dumbledore seems to Want to make friends more than enemies he’s a real softie!
Posted on August 22, 2005 05:59 PM | #
862. Brian Pugh said:
This is going to sound very wierd, but what if Harry has it totally wrong what if dumbledore and the rest of the wizarding community are snowing him and Voldemort is good and they don’t want Harry to learn that beacuse he would join them instead of Dumbledore? What if Dumbledore Really killed harry’s Parents. Also Could it be possible that Dumbledore is Lord Voldemort?
Posted on August 22, 2005 06:03 PM | #
863. Easter said:
Umm, that wouldn’t make sense at all. Dumby can’t be Voldy, they are seen together.
Gogric’s Hollow is NO coincidense. It is Grodric (Gryfindor)’s Hollow, to be more exact. I read that somewhere, in an interview with JKR.
The reason why Dumbledore trusts Snape is not really known to the readers. It is supposed to be explained in book 7, along with a million other unanswered questions. The reason why Dumbledore trusts Snape, I believe, is a reason so strong that anyone would trust Snape. I don’t think Snape meant for the Potters to be killed. I think Dumbledore knew so, because I think Snape may have liked someone. I think, JKR said that someone may have liked or been liked by Snape, but it was never said who. We are also supposed to get a reason as to why Snape was never in a relationship with anyone.
Posted on August 22, 2005 07:41 PM | #
864. AJ said:
couldnt dumbledore have made a horcruxe to help harry battle voldemort. even though he disagreed with Vold. he still might be willing to do anything to destroy voldemort
Posted on August 22, 2005 08:12 PM | #
865. BenVeppy said:
in every single book hermione is always telling people that people cannot apparate inside hogwarts grounds. maybe someone will learn how to cast that spell around people so they can’t apparate anywhere. that would be tight.
Posted on August 22, 2005 09:23 PM |
Posted on October 21, 2005 10:47 AM | #
ummmm ur point being robby?
and yes it is u ben….
ok i dunt like wasting this space…just dumbasses discussing bout crap
Posted on October 23, 2005 05:20 AM | #
well i don’t like people who spell don’t as “dunt” it makes you sound like a cunt lol
Posted on October 23, 2005 11:22 AM | #
well im surprised how far this forum has gone
peash out
Posted on October 24, 2005 09:14 PM | #
fuk u
dUnt u bag my crappy spelling =P
yeh dis forum [is it counted as one] was bout hp…n im not really a big fan…lmao….=P
nice discussion tho =D
Posted on October 25, 2005 04:03 AM | #
o ya and brian, next time u want to use one of my ideas(harry hermione bro and sis) u could at least ask or something. check out posts 163-188. that was only about 1,200 posts ago.
Posted on October 29, 2005 08:14 PM | #
i havent posted since like post 800 but i thought of something. in the first chapter we were introduced to the human prime minister. nothing was really made of the human world. but id bet anything the human world plays a huge part in voldermorts downfall
Posted on October 30, 2005 04:41 AM | #
I just thought About the Avada KEdavra Spell How it was different than all the others well with all the death eaters there you would think they would recognize a spell that could fake d eath or something cause it is their specialty but they wouldnt recognize it if they have never heard of it as we know snape is the half blood prince and he was good in fact you could make his own spells who is to say he didnt do that with the so called avada kedavra spell i think he actually made up a spell so simalar that when they d eath eaters were in hurry like they were they couldnt tell the difference
Posted on November 1, 2005 05:28 PM | #
Ok…the first thing that I would like to say is that, I love this book it was so amazing, the ending was a little crammed but overall it was good!
The other thing is I agree with Juan C Valle Lisboa, when she says that Harry could be the last horcrux, I find that it just makes so much sence, because does the book not say that one can not live without the other, so this would be a perfect way for him to die (It would be very tragic though, oh god I would bawl).
Another thing is that yes it is way too obvious that Regulus Black is R.A.B, JK Rowling would not be that crazy…i still think that it’s a nickname, i find that would makes much more sense.
As for Dumbledore’s death, I’m sorry to say that I do undoubtedly believe that guy is toast, the picture of him on the wall is a very clear indication that he is dead. But I also find it very strange that people dont talk to him in the portrait, but i think that will be something Jk Rowling will explain in the next book…
And my last point will be that, I do think that Harry will be going to returning to Hogwarts, because that would just be retarded if he didn’t, he is not yet ready to fully face Voldemort so i think that Professor McGonagall (the new headmistress) will come and get Harry and take him back to Hogwarts for some teaching on Occlumancy, and other stuff like that… but I also think this book will be crazy long because, i also think that he will destroy all of the horcruxs…
So ya thats my opinion on the upcoming book, so when it comes out I hope that you all enjoy it!
~*Ashley*~
Posted on November 3, 2005 04:04 PM | #
“Ginny! I’m so sorry. Please forgive me. I didn’t mean to forget about yor birthday…”
“Harry! Let GO!” Ginny yelled angrily struggling to get out of Harry’s arms and continuous apologetic mumbles.
Harry shook harder, though as if he was under a spell…or was he?
Ginny stared at Harry’s insane eyes. They were scary, not the Harry she knew. Not HER boyfriend Harry.
“HAAAAAARRY!!” Hermione yelled on the top of her lungs.
“GET OFF MY SISTER!” Ron roared, pulling out his wand. His attempted spell was faulty and failed miserbly. Harry seeing this took out his wand out but he dropped it. He tried to grab his wand except it was under a shoe of someone.
Professor Lupin was at the door.
He saw Ginny crying into Hermione’s shoudlers while Ron and Harry where on the looking up at him in surprize.
“Harry, we need to talk,” Lupin said in a very adulty tone.
Ron helped Harry up awkwardly.
Just then Harry had reliased what he did.
woot i finished my gay chapter!
Posted on September 13, 2005 05:56 AM | #
1306. slytherins heir said:
I believe the seven horcruxes are…
1. Voldemort himself
2. Harry Potter!
3. Tom Riddle’s diary - destroyed
4. The ring - destroyed
5. The locket - now located at Grimmauld Place
6. The cup - location unknown
7. An object once owned by Ravenclaw
I’m not convinced that the snake Nagini is indeed a horcrux, there’s every possibility that Dumbledore was wrong. It would give the final book a wonderful elegance if the final four horcuxes were each related to the four founders of Hogwarts.
One being Hufflepuff’s cup, another being Slytherin’s locket, one more being an object related to Ravenclaw and the last being something related to Gryffindor
A long-established theory is that Harry is the last remaining descendant of Godric Gryffindor, hence his parents’ residence in Godric’s Hollow.
Also…
when Voldemort set out to kill Harry Dumbledore believes he was one Horcrux short. What if, when Voldemort’s curse rebounded from Harry onto himself this act of ‘murdering himself’ created the means for another horcrux to be created, and accidentally perhaps a piece of Voldemort’s soul was transferred to Harry when the curse failed, along with various other powers such as parseltongue, of course.
Hence, Harry’s scar is a symbol of him being a Horcrux.
Harry is marked by his scar as Voldemort’s equal, because both Harry and Voldemort contain one seventh, an equal measure, of The Dark Lord’s soul!
Posted on September 13, 2005 06:16 AM | #
1307. slytherins heir said:
I believe the seven horcruxes are…
1. Voldemort himself
2. Harry Potter!
3. Tom Riddle’s diary - destroyed
4. The ring - destroyed
5. The locket - now located at Grimmauld Place
6. The cup - location unknown
7. An object once owned by Ravenclaw
I’m not convinced that the snake Nagini is indeed a horcrux, there’s every possibility that Dumbledore was wrong. It would give the final book a wonderful elegance if the final four horcuxes were each related to the four founders of Hogwarts.
One being Hufflepuff’s cup, another being Slytherin’s locket, one more being an object related to Ravenclaw and the last being something related to Gryffindor
A long-established theory is that Harry is the last remaining descendant of Godric Gryffindor, hence his parents’ residence in Godric’s Hollow.
Also…
when Voldemort set out to kill Harry Dumbledore believes he was one Horcrux short. What if, when Voldemort’s curse rebounded from Harry onto himself this act of ‘murdering himself’ created the means for another horcrux to be created, and accidentally perhaps a piece of Voldemort’s soul was transferred to Harry when the curse failed, along with various other powers such as parseltongue, of course.
Hence, Harry’s scar is a symbol of him being a Horcrux.
Harry is marked by his scar as Voldemort’s equal, because both Harry and Voldemort contain one seventh, an equal measure, of The Dark Lord’s soul!
Posted on September 13, 2005 06:17 AM | #
1308. jack said:
what had he done phoenix? did no one read my chapter? post 1296 i think or not? Yeah leave ginny alone. roar!
Posted on September 13, 2005 08:58 AM | #
1309. jack said:
waaaaaaaaaa
Posted on September 13, 2005 02:22 PM | #
1310. phoenix said:
i just thought they souldnt b together *wink wink* more for u then jack XD
yeah it was all a dream anyways and voldy had sumthing to do wif it…hehe…more to come except me brain is all dead…i read ur story jack….
Posted on September 13, 2005 09:28 PM | #
1311. nagini said:
hey slytherin’s heir,
u r dam right about nagini being one of hte horcruxes, i totally agree.
Pheonix - i read your chapter and it doesn’t sound like you have ever read a harry potter book in ur whole life !
Posted on September 14, 2005 01:11 AM | #
1312. phoenix said:
hehehehehehe
i read ‘em
w00t
i did i did.
well sorry nagini slytherin’s heir but i think u have a grudge against me coz im gryffindor’s heir [therefore i rule coz im gonna kick ur ass!]
wait that doesnt make sense >
anyways my point is i do read haarty potta…
Posted on September 14, 2005 04:23 AM | #
1313. jack said:
yeah ginny should be with me what did you think of my chapter phoenix and are u writing another chapter
Posted on September 14, 2005 08:19 AM | #
1314. jack said:
well of course nagini is a horcru