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August 05, 2005 |
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(Just a warning, there are minor spoilers in here, and if you get into the comments, don’t be surprised if there are major spoilers in there.)
I just finished Harry Potter and The Half-Blood Prince and all in all I really enjoyed it.
It’s a bit slow to start, and nothing of any consequence happens for about the first 2/3’s of the book, but it’s an enjoyable read. I quite liked all the teen angst stuff and every time I read “won-won” I chuckled quite a bit.
It really picks up towards the end, and it seems like Rowling crammed a whole bunch of stuff into the final 5 or so chapters, making the book feel a bit lopsided overall. This one is also a bit heavy. I mean, when the book ends Harry, Hogwarts and the rest of the wizarding world isn’t in a very good place. It’s pretty sad and things are looking bleak.
It really makes you want to get on with the story and see what happens though. I know I can’t wait for the next book. I am curious how it could all be wrapped up in one volume. It seems like there are even more loose ends than their was before. Are we in for one of those “keep-on-growing” series?
I’m not opposed to that, as long as everything gets wrapped up and explained. I’ve got lots of questions, and a few theories. That’s one thing I’ve loved about this series—there is so much to think about and speculate on after every book.
Anyway, it was a nice read. Not quite as good as some of the previous books, but still very entertaining.
My Rating: 3.5 out of 5.
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While I agree that it’s not quite as good as a couple of the other books, I love the way that the story ends. This is the closest that Rowling has left us to a cliffhanger ending in any of the books. While the other books left much to be thought about and speculated on, they all seemed to feature an “end” to that particular story. This one however, leaves us with more than just a couple of thoughts about what could happen in the next book, but it leaves us at an uneasy place in Harry’s life.
The one thing that I found incredibly annoying with this book was Harry’s new found fascination with Malfoy. I mean, what 16 year old is going to spend his time snooping around and trying to find dirt on someone when there are a ton of girls that are throwing themselves at them? I know I wouldn’t have when I was that age. Hell, I wouldn’t even do it now.
Posted on August 5, 2005 09:28 AM | #
I agree with your review, Keith. I think that Rowling was forced to jam a lot in at the end because she suddenly realized (or was informed by her publisher) that if she continued on as the first 2/3 of the book did, we’d end up with a 73-chaper, 1000+ page book. I think she probably caught a lot of flack for the length of ‘Order of the Phoenix’ and had to scale back somewhere. Oh well. Still an enjoyable read.
I also have a pretty good idea who ‘R.A.B’ is. ;-)
Posted on August 5, 2005 10:14 AM | #
Bob - I think I know who R.A.B. is too. And it would make sense…
Posted on August 5, 2005 10:26 AM | #
I liked it the best of all the books – loved how thinks got really dark – I think the way rowling is introducing kids to an adult (e.g. terrorist laden) world is brilliant – especially given the timing of the London tube attacks – uncanny, to say the least
as a parent, I’m looking for things like this that will mature my kids into adulthood without making them live lives as fearful reactionary people
Posted on August 5, 2005 10:32 AM | #
A friend of mine likes to call Rowling’s fondness for throwing all the exposition and action into the last few chapters a “Dumbledump”.
It got all terribly tongue-in-cheek when we were reading this particular book…
Posted on August 5, 2005 11:35 AM | #
I finished it within the day it came out, hehe. I especially liked this book, for all the backstory on Voldemort. He is my favorite character, after all.
Also, does everyone else here think R.A.B. is Regulus Black?! If the spoilers don’t color themselves black, Keith, I’m sorry. It showed it like that in the Comment Preview :(
Posted on August 5, 2005 12:35 PM | #
I have a theory and can’t want for the next book to come out to see if I’m correct or not.
SPOILER ALERT!!!
Check it out my theory if you want to…
I agree about the book being lopsided. But, overall I enjoyed the book too.
Posted on August 5, 2005 01:43 PM | #
Scott – Yep. That’s what I was thinking…Nice trick coloring the text…
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:01 PM | #
I started the last 5 chapters before trying to go to bed: I was up till 3:30 finishing it. These books have been great fun but with this one it feels as though she wrote it with the movie in mind.
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:11 PM | #
I liked the book quite a bit, I would give it a strong 4. And Re: R.A.B Ward - I think that Dumbledore was indeed killed by Snape (the main argument is that Dumbledore appeared on a portrait in the director’s office) - but that Snape is on our side anyway.
I guess Dumbledore would agree that his death is worth keeping Voldemort fooled by one of his closest Death Eater (Snape). Well, we’ll see :)
cheers
jarek
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:27 PM | #
Each book has that simmilar plot arc in which Harry is trying to convince everyone else of something they do not wish to believe and his desperate attempts to be heard causes him to be alienated. Harry dealing with alienation is that element that keeps the stories nice and tense as ithey move from event to event. I didn’t find Harry’s hunch about malfoy was as effective in creating that palatable alienation. So I found myslef getting bored waiting to get back to dumbledore or voldemort. So weaker character development for Harry, but great for all the other characters.
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:30 PM | #
I loved the book, but the ending was so sad. I hope this means a gloriously happy ending in the final book – and maybe a soap opera comeback? (I wish!)
Posted on August 5, 2005 02:50 PM | #
We’re in agreement on RAB, then. Ward’s theory is, at the very least, heartening compared to the outcome we’ve read.
Posted on August 5, 2005 07:41 PM | #
jarek - Good point about the portrait. I didn’t think about that. Also, I agree with RAB also. If you remember in the previous book, the kids found a locket they could not open back in the Black house. Man, this thread has become one big flow of spoilage.
Posted on August 6, 2005 04:18 AM | #
I, too, thought the beginning was a little boring, but I never really lost interest because I figured it would’ve all made sense in the end. And the more I think about it, the more the speculations of R.A.B. make sense. Very clever of you all, considering I was wracking my brain trying to think. Glad I have some relief now, lol. I thought some parts near the end were a little rushed.
But overall, a very sad ending. Jarek, you raise a great point about the portrait. But couldn’t Harry still talk to Dumbledore through the portrait? I’ve wondered about that. I am also anxious to see how everything can be concluded within a single book, and something makes me think that it might not necessarily be a happy ending (hopefully I’m wrong).
Posted on August 6, 2005 04:20 PM | #
R.A.B could also be a nickname can’t it? i know for sure that rowling is obsessed with this kind of thing e.g. padfoot, prongs, heir of slytherin and half-blood prince.
I think Harry is related to Godric Gryfindor because his parents lived in Godrics Hollow; maybe he will find the last horcrux there!
Posted on August 7, 2005 04:51 AM | #
Well, you might notice that Regulus, doesn’t that seem a little obvious? I mean, 99 percent of the people are saying it’s regulus, what if that’s the desired reaction? Or maybe JK Rowling underestimated her readers. Either way.
Posted on August 7, 2005 05:17 PM | #
I think that what Dumbledore asked Snape to do (and Hagrid overheard) is to kill him if these sort of things happened. Before leaving he was still trying to teach Harry about Occlumency and non verbal spells. As to RAB , it seems obvius that it might be Sirius’ brother (so probably he will not be in the last book!!). Also, can Harry himself be kinda Horcrux? That’s too crazy, I guess.
Posted on August 8, 2005 03:46 AM | #
RAB is Regulus Black, I think we can all agree on that. The debates i see here seem to be whether Dumbledor is dead. He is, for he did not fear death nor did he have the drive to create a horcrux. Snape is not evil. Snape is a dedicated member of the Order. If Dumbledor trusts him i trust hi. There was a very telling line directly before Snape kills Albus where it says something about both of their eyes meeting. Well Snape and Dumbledor were both advanced Legitmenz (sp?) so they could communicate that way. When it says there was a look of revultion in Snapes eyes that was either reveltion as to what Dumbledor was asking him to do or it was just good acting. As for the third mystery… i dont think Regulus is alive, but this is the point i am most shakey on. Dumbledor told Draco that the Order could make him vanish, make it seem like he were dead. So whats to say they didnt do the same for Regulus and not even tell his dear brother. Well, if Regulus is RAB, and he was stealing horcuxes, then he would have told the Order. Then Dumbledor wouldnt have needed to go looking for them. Unless Regulus was acting so secretly that he didnt even tell the Order what he was doing, but that seems a little fishy.
Also I havent made a conclusion yet as to if Harry is the 7th Horcrux
Posted on August 8, 2005 01:51 PM | #
First, why would Voldemort make Harry, the one who he feels is his greatest threat, a horcrux? He has vowed adamantly that he will stop at nothing to try and kill Harry… what sense would it make to destroy your own horcrux?
Second, I agree with the people that are saying Snape isn’t evil. If he were evil, why would he have taken the time to continue instructing Harry on keeping his mind closed and his spells non-verbal?
And lastly, I think that RAB is very possibly Regulus, however I also feel that JKR wouldn’t have made this so obvious to us, unless there was something everybody was missing… something incredibly subtle. For instance, what if the mentioning of the locket in OotP, and the dropping of RAB in HBP was merely a red herring, and the locket that Harry now holds is in fact the true horcrux?
Posted on August 8, 2005 02:41 PM | #
I think that Dumbledor told snape to kill him if he had to in order to keep his unbreakable vow. The harry potter series reminds me a lot of the loard of the rings and I would not be surprised if she was influenced by it. In the lord of the rings sarun could not imagine somebody would give up the power of the ring and destroy it. In this story voldemort believes the worst thing is death, plus he has no friends or connections to anybody. So I do not think that it would cross his mind that Dumbledor would sacrifice his own life for the good of others. His death allows snape to get closer to voldemort. It puts Draco in his debt because his life was spared same way as wormtail is in harry’s debt. Finally the fact that voldemort can not love he can not be loved and has to connection with anyone puts him at a disadvatage aginst harry. Fear will only garuntee so much loyalty but love generates more.
The only thing that I did not like about the book was that if Dumbledor was only going to the tower to send harry to get snape why did he not send his Patronus with a message for snape. She mettioned on her site that this way of communicating is very effective because it wards of dark magic and since everybody’s Patronus is different the person getting the message knows who it is from.
Posted on August 8, 2005 02:45 PM | #
If you want to look at who R.A.B. is, it might actually be Regulus Black, the horcrux which is the Locket I think is found in book five when theyre cleaning the house at grimmauld place, on or about pg.116 of the order of the pheonix they find a locket that no one can open and just throw it in a junk bag.
Posted on August 8, 2005 06:36 PM | #
Dumbledore, unfortunately, is dead. The fact that he appears in the portrait is proof. However, why does noone think to talk to him to clarify what happened on the tower? Surely if you wanted to know exactly what happened between Snape, Draco and Dumbledore wouldn’t you ask him? As for Snape, as much I love to hate him I still think he is good. I think killing Dumbledore was a pre-meditated thing that the Order was in on, hence they didn’t try to stop him as he left. Only Harry went after him…. And I don’t think that Harry will leave Hogwarts, it doesn’t make any sense for him to go off trying to find the Horcruxes. Where would he look, he doesn’t seem to be powerful enough to do any of that on his own. When Harry and Dumbledore go after the locket Harry really doesn’t do anything, except everythin Dumbledore tells him to, he couldn’t find the door, or the boat or how to get to the locket…..he’s not experienced enough…..I have a feeling that we haven’t seen the last of Sirius……..anyway that’s it.
Posted on August 8, 2005 09:42 PM | #
Firstly, I agree with Keith, Half-Blood Prince is a good read though possibly not as good literature-wise as earlier books. I definately found it far more enjoyable than Order of the Phoenix, which I thought was quite cruel.
R.A.B: I definately agree. On Snape, I agree with Mike : Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him so Snape wouldn’t break his Unbreakable Vows.
My predictions for Book 7: Harry, Ron and Hermione will stay together; Ginny will wait for Harry, and they’ll at least be engaged by the end (though wouldn’t a wedding be a superb ending!). One way or another, Harry will become an Auror (either they’ll accept him without NEWTs or he’ll return to Hogwarts – or something).
One more thought: perhaps Ginny will catch the bouquet at Bill and Fleur’s wedding?
Posted on August 9, 2005 12:18 AM | #
Just a final nail in Dumbledore’s coffin; when Snape killed him the curse that Harry was under was immediately broken therefore further proof that he is indeed on the other side.
Although I would like to believe that Snape killed Dumbledore because I think he is an evil vile character, I have to go along with the idea that Dumbledore asked Harry to go get Snape, proving that Dumbledore knew that he was going to die and that Snape would be the one to put him to a peaceful rest. Also, he would have killed Harry and tell Voldemort it was an accident, if he was dark.
I can’t imagine that Harry is the 7th Horcrux. I keep thinking of one thing that Dumbledore brought up…the prophecy does not have to be fulfilled. I have a feeling this will come up again in book 7.
Posted on August 9, 2005 12:41 PM | #
Ok.. So Dumbledore showed up in the portrait in the Headmasters Office and the Jinx on Harry was removed that proves that he was killed by Snape. And I agree with pretty much everybody posting that Snape is on the Order’s side and did what he was told by Dumbledore. Although I hate the guy like Harry does….
I really hope that Ginny waits for Harry… Ive thought from the first book when he sees her on the platform for the Hogwarts Expresst that they would end up together.
RAB has got the be Regulus and the locket found in OoTF could be the horcrux but where is it now if it ended up in the junk bag???
Posted on August 9, 2005 01:17 PM | #
JK said that Sirius dying would end up being really important later on, but in the sixth book it seemed like the only thing that came from his death was Harry’s inheriting the house. So maybe what makes his death important is RAB being his brother, its possible that he could be still alive because no one ever said who killed him or anything like that. voldemort supposedly had him killed because he wanted to leave the death eaters, and the note addressed voldemort as the dark lord which only a death eater does. maybe sirius’s murder put things in perspective for regulus? i dont know its just a guess.
Posted on August 9, 2005 01:34 PM | #
everyone is saying that Dumbledore is dead, but remember the part during his funeral when harry thought he saw a pheonix rise from the coffin? Fawkes had already left… so what if it was dumbledore?
Posted on August 9, 2005 06:38 PM | #
Dumbledore ordered Snape to kill him for one reason, to protect Draco from cementing his position on the ‘darkside’.
All along Dumbledore knew that Malfoy was up to no good, but didn’t interfere because he was worried that Malfoy would be killed by Voldemort if he was exposed.
Dumbledore would happily trade his life for the soul of a student. That iss why he ‘pleaded’ with snape to kill him, surely not out of fear for his life, but for fear of draco’s and snape’s.
Posted on August 9, 2005 06:48 PM | #
Ok, I think Snape is definitely on the side w/the Phoenix. He has been loyal the whole time, and the thing that Dumbledore asked him to do just may be that he would have to kill him. Also, I think that Harry is the last Horcrux. Because, while Voldemort may have not intentionally meant to, he said that his soul was ripped from his body. Could it just be possible that part of his soul went into Harry? It does make sense, because Harry has some of Vol. charateristics, and Dumbledore had said that (excerpt from pgs. 332-333, Chamber Of Secrets) “You can speak Parseltongue, Harry” said Dumbledore calmly, “because Lord Voldemort-who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin-can speak Parseltongue. Unless I’m much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I’m sure…”
Posted on August 9, 2005 06:50 PM | #
Ok, I think Snape is definitely on the side w/the Phoenix. He has been loyal the whole time, and the thing that Dumbledore asked him to do just may be that he would have to kill him. Also, I think that Harry is the last Horcrux. Because, while Voldemort may have not intentionally meant to, he said that his soul was ripped from his body. Could it just be possible that part of his soul went into Harry? It does make sense, because Harry has some of Vol. charateristics, and Dumbledore had said that (excerpt from pgs. 332-333, Chamber Of Secrets)
“You can speak Parseltongue, Harry” said Dumbledore calmly, “because Lord Voldemort-who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin-can speak Parseltongue. Unless I’m much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I’m sure…”
“Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?” Harry said, thunderstruck.
“It certainly seems so.”
So I think that Harry is definitely a Horcrux, because as the prophecy says, that Harry doesn’t HAVE to kill him, it just says that either must die at the hand of the other, and neither can live while the other survives, because how can you really live with only part of a soul? And how can Harry live when Voldemort is always going to have a part on this earth, within Harry? So what I’m saying is that yes, I think that both of them must die, but Voldermort will never be truly gone until Harry is dead, because a part of him is in him. And I do think that R.A.B must be Regulus Black. Because why else (as Glyph said, on pg. 116. of OoTP) would the locket be in the house of Black? It must have gotten put there by someone somehow. So there, that’s my views. Ya agree w/em, then that’s good. Ya don’t, too bad. Just tell me what ya think!
Posted on August 9, 2005 07:07 PM | #
It seems that everyone at this posting suspects that Snape is still loyal to the Order despite clear evidence that he has actually turned bad. The reason lies with Dumbledore’s near omnipotence. Readers have a hard time accepting that Dumbledore could have been wrong about Snape because for five full books Dumbledore has been all powerful and almost all-knowing. Readers have a choice. Is Dumbledore a Christ figure, a sacrifice to defeat evil? (See Genesis 3: the head of the serpent will bruise His heel.) Or, is Dumbledore merely human and wrong about Snape? (See page 197: Dumbledore warns Harry that his mistakes can be “huger” than most men’s mistakes.)
Posted on August 9, 2005 07:26 PM | #
Great theories. Another clue that Harry might be a Horcrux, harboring a part of Voldemort’s soul: the Sorting Hat couldn’t decide whether to put him into Slytherin or Gryffindor.
Regarding the Slytherin locket, I wonder if Mundungus has it among the things he took from the Black home… If he took it, maybe he sold it.
And it doesn’t seem possible that Regulus is still alive. If he were, he would have been the heir to the house and Kreacher wouldn’t have taken orders from Harry. Also, the note from R.A.B. said he/she expected to be dead long before the note was read.
Posted on August 9, 2005 08:41 PM | #
I read that story.It’s a nice story.I enjoyed this. John
Posted on August 9, 2005 10:04 PM | #
i think that Dumbledore is dead. He’s not exactly going to be needed in the last book and the death of Voldemort has always been in Harrys hands even though Dumbledore was the one he feared the most. Him being dead benefits everyone more then him being alive also. Even though there is a lot of clues to suggest that he may still be alive. He did tell Draco that he could make it so everyone would think he was dead, so whynot do it for himself? But personally I find that it would be a little disappointing if he was still alive. J.K Rowling did say that someone important died in the book and I don’t think she would have said it, if he wasn’t actually dead…
Posted on August 9, 2005 10:28 PM | #
One question.. are Snape and Voldermort related in anyway? Snape has never been seen when Voldermort is around, in any of the previous books, but he always appears immediately after. Also, in HBP, when Snape comes into the picture to kill Dumbledore, all the Death Eaters back away.
What could be so great as to make Dumbledore trust Snape so much, unless Snape owes him something huge? I think Snape will be instrumental in a big way in the next book. He does belong to the Order, since he stops harry from excruciating pain, saying the Dark Lord has reserved Harry for himself.
Also, why did Narcissa approach Snape?
Posted on August 10, 2005 06:12 AM | #
How about Kreacher having the horcrux…he was always hording things that were being thrown away!
Posted on August 10, 2005 06:23 AM | #
The locket in the cabinet at the Black house seems hidden, but obvious - the replacement was placed by Regulus. Snape figures in somewhere with Regulus and Potter’s parents to gain AD’s full trust - to make such a deep character that is so undeveloped a simple traitor in a matter of one paragraph is unrealistic. Snape seems to be the only really interesting character in the series at this point, IMO.
Dumbledore is “dead” - but he isn’t really “gone”. I haven’t seen this variation of the theory yet, but if it’s a repeat, oh well. RAB is Regulus, which seems logical enough - but we need to remember that this replacement was beneath a sophisticated potion. Dumbledore’s rather cavalier attitude about drinking the potion, with extravagent instructions to force him to finish it seems unusual - as though he knows he needs to get the ‘full dose’. Who is the rather obvious master of potions? Snape. Who has Dumbledore’s utmost trust? Snape. Why the selection of the phoenix as a ‘familiar’, with Albus being the Head of the Order of the Phoenix? A phoenix dies and is reborn from the ashes….even from the first book, Snape boasted of the ability to ‘cheat death’.
To fool Voldemort takes extraordinary means - and Snape would obviously be highly suspect by the Death Eaters. His easy and volunteered offer to make the Unbreakable Vow reinforces the idea that this had been planned from the OofTP, with Dumbledore knowing that this was the only way to maintain Snape as trusted spy on Death Eaters & Voldemort. At every point or question that V could probe Snape on, Snape could truthfully answer that the consequences would be fatal for Dumbledore - the potion, it’s deadly, and the killing curse - well, that’s a given. I’m betting that the potion may cause death, but it also allows death to be cheated, insulating against all other lethal events (such as the AK curse or the fall from the tower). Snape is no traitor - just rather distasteful!
Posted on August 10, 2005 07:19 AM | #
*spoiler*
I definetly think that the locket horucrux was taken by Sirius’ brother, Regulus Black. It was sitting around the Black house, and they were unable to open it. It could have been stolen by Mundungus and sold again or still there waiting to be destroyed. I hope it all goes well in the 7th book. The sixth book was very well written but overall kinda boring in the beginning, and hard to get into unless you really enjoy the series.
Posted on August 10, 2005 07:46 AM | #
I also believe Dumbledore is truly dead. Not only for the portrait, but it makes sense that the main character loses his mentor, having to take responsibility for himself knowing no one will protect him. Knowing Dumbledore and his mentality of sacrificing so much toward the end of the book, it is easily to believe that he intended for Snape to kill him for some greater purpose. To all of you who want to believe that Dumbledore is alive, keep in mind that while Dumbledore was in the portrait, he never spoke!
Posted on August 10, 2005 09:04 PM | #
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Posted on August 10, 2005 09:04 PM | #
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Posted on August 10, 2005 09:07 PM | #
An addition to Dumbledore’s death. It is most likely that he was indeed killed by Snape. If he was alive or if Snape did not go through with the task Snape would have been killed by the binding speel placed on him by Bellatrix. She clearly stated that Snape must protect Malfoy at all cost and that if Malfoy failed in his plot, Snape would complete the task. The Binding spell is irrevokable and cannot be broken unless it is fulfilled. I believe, on the otherhand, that Dumbledore did not leave empty handed and has left something for Harry as a key to life. In HBP you also see Dumbledore’s last word’s as “Snape… Please..” I saw this as quite odd because Dumbledore usually speaks with confidence. Snape represents an enigma and therefore represents a third side to the climax. I believe he will have a major role in the next novel.
Posted on August 11, 2005 12:13 AM | #
I do believe Dumbledore is dead. I mean it was kinda obvious that something bad was going to happen to him after he and Harry returned from their trip and saw the dark mark. Besides in the previous books Dumbledore seemed almost invincible but in HBP he seems just like a normal wizard. The theory about RAB being Regulus is quite good and would seem very true but JK also likes to throw us off sometimes at the obvious. SO i wouldnt be to suprised if it wasnt Regulus. Also on the Snape theory about still being good, I think he is evil, you guys just don’t want to admit it because you guys have been spoiled in the previous book showing Snape at the end was good, but now since you have pure evidence that he indeed is evil, you guys just refuse to accept the inevitable that indeed Snap is EVIL!! Also in HBP it seems JK rushed the book, and there were too much stuff in the end, I mean if indeed the 7th book is the last book, that book would surely be as long as the Bible(lol). I do not think Harry will return to Hogwarts, i mean he does SAY he won’t return. Lastly how is Harry going to KIll The Dark Lord, how is this little skinny, untited hair, 4 eyed freak going to destroy the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time when he alone couldnt kill Snape. As Snape says, Potter does not even have any special powers, just meiocre at the least. And how is Harry going to find all the Horcruxes, Harry isn’t that smart and it would be preposterous and also unlikely for him to find at least 2 out of the 4. I believe in the end The Dark Lord himself shall kill Harry Potter at last!!!!!! (Also i wasnt really sad that Dubledore died, he got annoying at some points and was just an old GEEZER. Also is anybody else annoyed that Ron and Hermione are together, a little mudblood and a blood traitor together is just despicable!!!!)
Posted on August 11, 2005 08:53 AM | #
Could RAB be Borgin of Borgin and Burke. After all he was Voldemort’s first employer and may have known and have been concerned about his antics as a young man. Also dealing with a horcrux would have been a pretty useful skill for one running a shop such as Borgin and Burkes
Posted on August 11, 2005 12:40 PM | #
I’m still shocked after I finished reading thsi book 2 hours ago…it’s so sad about the end of Dumbledore and poor Harry that now has even less people that he loves and they love him around. But I think that what happened will help Harry grow more cuz he’s in the way of becoming an adult so also if this awful experience was really though for him, the consequences consist in that Harry is even more in the god side and will do everything to kill Voldermort and till this point Dumbledore seemed- no offense- really stupid in beleiving Snape as in he was the one that killed him but Im sure that in the next books everything will be explained but Snape irritates me…I really hate him and this book was so into me that after I finished I cried lightly cuz it was sad the situation of how things were going on in thsi book.
Posted on August 11, 2005 01:42 PM | #
Harry potter amazing character.It’s become popular as popular as britney spears.It is popular through his stories but now from movies he become more popular.
Posted on August 12, 2005 02:47 AM | #
I just had an I idea! What if Dumbledore is another unreigtered Animagi? What if he is a Phoenix? That would make sense right? Because Harry thought that he saw a Phoenix rising out of Dumbledore’s coffin… So now maybe Dumbledore can’t be human anymore cuzhis human body was killed but what if he can still be a Phoenix and help Harry?I am not sure If HArry will come back to school… I mean now he doesn’t even have Dumbledore to help him or give him advice… But as a lot of you have pointed out Harry couldn’t kill Snape and he still needs more schooling… Although I don’t think Harry was TRYING to kill Snape… Because he tried Crucio and all the Half Blood Prince’s curses but he never tried Avada Kedavra… And as much as I hate Snape I still think he is a good guy because the Dark Lord never objected to causing Harry pain… Voldermort just wanted to kill HArry so I still think Snape is on the good side… BEcause he could have caused Harry pain ut didn’t he said “No!”…”Potter is the Dark Lord’s!” I agree that Dumble dore dying was all part of a plan for Snape to appear to still keep his allegiance with the Dark Lord… As much as I hate Snape I still think he is good…
Now I do not think that RAB is Regelus Black…Here is my reason…JKR wants ud to think that RAB is Regelus Black… This is how she writes! She will lead us to believe one thing and then she might introduce a whole new character! Or she could have mentioned some person once in the whole series and it might be them… I mean think about it! In the SS/PS she once talks about Dedalus Diggle shaking Harry’s hand50 times and then doesn’t mention him again until the OotP where he is part of the whatever squad…And then i believe she also mentions Mundugus in passing by in the SS/PS or PoA… And then she doesn’t talk about hin again until the OotP and HBP…
Posted on August 12, 2005 10:56 AM | #
Ok guys… I had an idea… We have been talking about what we think will happen and all so now why don’t we write our version of the 7th book? I don’t have any ideas right now so I won’t start but if any of you read this and have ideas please start!
Posted on August 12, 2005 11:47 AM | #
my version of the 7th book,well harry has to go back to the Dursleys one last time, so i think they will be dead. then at the end there will be a ginormous battle between good and evil (pelennor fields style for any of you lotr fans)Snape will die at some point whether it be at Harrys hand or whether it be protecting Harry. and then Harry will go on to fight voldermort, somehow both of them are going to die, because i think Harry is a horcrux, and there will be a huge bit about harry going to wizard heavan or w/e and meeting his family.
Posted on August 12, 2005 12:27 PM | #
Well I was thinking we can just each of us write a paragraph so then we canput it together and have a story… Not just a sumary… No offense pip…Well I got an idea so here goes… But I agree the end should be like Pelennor fields..Except in Hogwarts..
“Hedwig!” Harry exclaimed as harry’s owl limped through the window. Her leg was badly injured and Harry could tell she had barely made the flight. He cleaned up her leg and saw there was a large gash as long as his finger on her leg… He untied the letter and put it aside. After putting a bandage on her leg. He picked upi the letter and was about to open when a thought struck him. The Death Eaters had attacked Hedwig… What if someone had read the letter? He ponder these thought for an hour before he realized he still had the letter… So he opened it. Inside was Ron’s writing.
Dear Harry,
How are you? Have you decided when you are gong to leave yet? How are you going to get to the Burrow? Well maybe you can apparate since you passed the test.
Harry had completely forgotten about the apparation test…He and Ron had both passed the test 1 week ago…
Bill and Fleur’s wedding is on the 25 of July… So can you have to come by the 24th atleast and then you can stay for your birthday and then we can leave together…Hermione is already here…When can you come?Ginny sends her love…
Ron
Ok so this all I could think of so continue…And don’t skip over … Make it exactly like the book with every little detail!
Posted on August 12, 2005 01:04 PM | #
I THINK SIR LORD AARON IS RIGHT. HIS IDEA’S DO SEEM CORRECT!!! Everyone read his comment and write wht you think of it.
Posted on August 12, 2005 02:58 PM | #
Do you really think that Rowling would kill of Harry? I mean this is a children’s series and if she just killed of Harry it would ddemoralize all the children…Just Kidding but I still don’t think she would kill Harry off1
Posted on August 12, 2005 03:12 PM | #
Listen Harry, this is Sir Lord Aaron and I think I know much more than you. You list preposteric idea’s that will never happen. But i have reached just not hyothesis but an equivelant of the truth. And who are you to say what JK will and will not do. Your ide’s are not just fairy tales but also IRRELEVANT. For i am Sir Lord Aaron “the all knowing.”
Posted on August 12, 2005 07:45 PM | #
Dumbledore is asleep in his portrait, so maybe he is not dead after all?
Posted on August 12, 2005 08:25 PM | #
And am I the only one who thinks that Neville will have a much bigger part in the climax of the books than we might have imagined? Remember, if you will, what we learned in OotP about him. Remember what was said about him in the explanation of the prophecy. Maybe Harry IS a horcrux. Maybe Neville somehow IS the threat Voldemort did not see.
Posted on August 12, 2005 08:36 PM | #
Sir Lord Aaron,
I don’t care what you think because I still have my ideas… Okay. And you are not JK So you can’t say what she will do either! I will have my opinion and you’ll have yours…
I think Dumbledore isn’t dead because maybe his portrait appeared because he “former” headmaster of Hogwarts. And it never says Umbridge’s portrait was there! So maybe what if it is? Or maybe t only appears for headmasters/mistresses that actually worked in the office. So maybe his portrait didn’t wake up because he wasn’t dead yet! Maybe the portrait only wakes upi when he/she is dead! And I agree with you Geo… I think Neville will have a bigger part in the climax of the seventh book…
Posted on August 12, 2005 09:29 PM | #
Guys…some very interesting comments out there but this is what i think
RAB is Regulus.I Ok..Now this is what is:
Regulus was to find this horcrux and take the locket and bring it to the Black house where it will be kept. Regulus filled the goblet with a potion given to him by Snape. Sirius & Regulus appear to die so that Harry inherits the Black Mansion and along with it the locket.Dumbledore destroys the other horcrux and finally takes harry with him to the horcrux and forces harry to tell him to finish drinking the potion. Dumbledore is not stupid not to differentiate between the 2 potions. Dumbledore and harry returns back and Snape ‘kills’ dumbledore. But here is the glitch. When voldermort used the avada kedavra against Cedric in the GOF Cedric just lumped and fell dead. He wasn’t blasted or anything. Moreover Snape might have said a vebal spell but must have paid more focus on a non-verbal spell which just sends dumbledore flying. When he’s falling to the ground buckbeak comes right on cue and puts on the ground.Then a polyjuice potion is fed to a dead death eater with dumbledore’s hair so as to look like dumbledore. Now there is alot of time between dumbledore being ‘killed’ by Snape to the time he is found dead. So … All this is being done so that Voldermort thinks that Dumbledore is dead. Now..I believe that Dumbledore wants Harry to believe that he is dead for some reason..1 being voldermort can read harry’s mind as they are linked together. Now about the potrait… Why i don’t think it is because dumbledore is dead.
1.Dumbledore is sleeping in the potrait…It could be just abother picture because in the pictures do move but they can’t speak or see outside.
2.If he was dead then he would be able to talh..like the fat lady…
3. If died having anger that snape cheated him then he would become a ghost.
Finally Harry is not the 7th Horcrux..Neville is.
And the prophecy will be fulfilled. Voldermort will do th e avada kedavra at Harry but Neville will come in the way. Thus as the final Horcrux is destroyed Voldermort himself will die thus fulfilling the prophecy.
Posted on August 13, 2005 01:53 AM | #
Harry Potter my favorite character.I love this movie.
Posted on August 13, 2005 02:31 AM | #
i think (think) that neville will somehow help harry kill voldemort (dont know how). i dont think that harry is a horocrux because voldemort is always trying to kill him, and thats like killing part of yourself! And i dont think that harry will go back to hogwarts, because like, it will get shut down. and then after all these years ron and hermione might date each other.
Posted on August 13, 2005 06:04 AM | #
Hey, I’m back again! Anyways, yea, the idea w/Neville seems very good, but I don’t think that Neville isa Horcrux. Because if Voldemort was to just kill Neville and then die, who would kill the very last Horcrux? (Voldemort!) Because Dumbledore said that Voldemort is indeed the last Horcrux, so who would then kill him??? This also leads us to think if Harry really is indeed a Horcrux, because if he is, then what would happen if he did kill Voldemort, who would kill the part of Voldemort in Harry??? I dunno, I just kinda have the feeling that Harry is a Horcrux, even against all the evidence and what-not. Also, the thought about Borgin and Burkes is very interesting. I’m torn between whether to think that R.A.B. is Sirius, or possibly Burkes, or even like you said, some character that may not have been pulled into full perspective. I’m not very sure about the whole Dumbledore alive/dead thing, so I’ll just leave it for the time being, and dwell on it later. So, until then!!!
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:25 AM | #
I agree with Dj W!ldc@rd… I think that Neville is a Horcrux so then when Voldemort uses Avada Kedavra on Harry Neville will take the hit and die… Therefore destroying the last Horcrux… So then Harry can kill the mortal Voldemort… I also think the Polyjiuice potion is a good idea… But I had one more idea… What if Dumbledore is another unregistered Animagi? So maybe Fawkes already had left Hogwarts when Dumbledore was supposedly killed so then Dumbledore could have supposedly been Fawkes and everybody would think that including the Dark Lord! And if you think that Snape would die cuz he didn’t full fill the unbreakable wow… There is no time limitin those… Because Malfoy failed with the potion and the necklace and the Unbreakble wow states that if Malfoy fails and Snape doesn’t help him Snape should die then… But he didn’t…Proving there is no time limit!
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:04 AM | #
Just a couple notes:
1. Since when does a person need to be dead to appear in a portrait?
2. Why did Dumbledore send Harry out to find Snape, then stun Harry to keep him there? IMO Dumbledore wanted Harry there to witness the “killing.” Yes, it was pre-arranged for Snape to “kill” Dumbledore, that’s why Harry was to go find Snape to get him there. Once Dumbledore saw that Snape was coming, Dumbledore froze Harry to keep him there as a witness. Harry needed to believe that Dumbledore was dead. Throughout previous books, Dumbledore always tried to control what Harry was thinking (knowing the Voldemort could read Harry’s mind).
3. No one has mentioned this yet….at the end of OotP, Bellatrix noted that an Unforgivable Curse had to be meant/enjoyed before it would work (p810). Yes, all throughout the books, it’s always been a question as to Snape’s loyalty. Do we believe Dumbledore? If so, Snape could not possibly have wanted nor enjoyed killing Dumbledore and it could not have happened.
4. As for the Unbreakable Vow, we do not know exactly what task Draco was to accomplish for Voldemort (only conjecture)…nor do we know the time frame by which it had to be completed.
IMO…Dumbledore is still alive.
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:41 AM | #
The guy above me is crazy! Dumbledore is dead. But i think Harry is going to be taught by Dumbledore’s portrait.
Posted on August 13, 2005 12:11 PM | #
a potrait, dats just silly:P
dumbledore is an amzing wizard, and he duz own the office where the epotrait is, so he cud charm it, and i like the dumbledore = animagi theory
as for the horcruxes
1= locket *obviously*
2= the ring dumbledore had
3= tom riddle’s diary
4= Nagini *why would harry be told of an animal being an horcrux being a bad thing, if it is quite irrevolant
5= Helga’s Hufflepuff’s goblet
6= sumfing of Rowena Ravenclaw
and 7= something of Godric Gryffindor, fer example *Harry heir of Gryffindor* theory, or sumfing stupid, like the sorting hat or sumfing:), or Voldemort, or what about Voldemort’s most trusted servant….Snape, my theory, dumbledore wanted harry to witness Snape killing Dumbledore *or perhaps he is till alive……* so harry would finish off Snape the horcrux. and all the death eaters want to be the Dark Lord’s most faithful servant, and him being apart of him must have sum benefit *LIKE HE WONT KILL YOU* and snape is nevr afraid of the Voldemort’s wrath, like when he killed Dumbledore instead of Malfoy….
????FAWKES = ANIMAGUS????
Posted on August 13, 2005 01:30 PM | #
Well if the following 6 are Horcruxes:
1= locket *obviously*
2= the ring dumbledore had
3= tom riddle’s diary
4= Nagini *why would harry be told of an animal being an horcrux being a bad thing, if it is quite irrevolant
5= Helga’s Hufflepuff’s goblet
6= sumfing of Rowena Ravenclaw
Then the 7th part must be in Lord Voldermort… But what I think is that he doen’t have anything of Ravenclaw’s but in HBP when Dumbledore showed Harry the memory of Voldermort coming to ask Dumbledore for the DADA job you remember his hand flicks to his wand? Well then I think that he might have jinxed DADA job but also he made the Sorting Hat a Horcrux… And if he didn’t jinx the job and made the Hat a Horcrux…Then I think that it was just a coincidence that all the teachers got ka-poofed…
Posted on August 13, 2005 03:55 PM | #
well i think everyone who said harry is the final horcrux is insanely stupid, Voldemort DILIBEREATLY made 7 horcruxs so if he happend to be one, he would be some wierd 8th one, and that would be stupid. Also i heard someone say that harry might be it cause voldemort would die if harry did or something like that b/c he couldnt live wothout part of his soul, well they have already destroyed some of these horcruxs and voldemort lives on so bye bye to that theory, but who knows if harry is the final horcrux then i will stop reading these books and considered them a waste of my time, cause that is just lame. That snape theory makes alot more sense than the Harry theiry that is for sure, but i still doubt he is a horcrux either, and i doubt highly Fawkes to be an animagus either, bec. i dont think animagus would be able to burn themselfs down and regrow as fawkes has.
Posted on August 13, 2005 04:06 PM | #
I agree with Robby… Any body who think taht Harry is a Horcrux is INSANE! I think Voldermort only made 6 Horcruxes…And the 7th part of his soul is in himself… So here are my predictions for the Horcruxes…
1. Slytherin’s locket
2. Hufflepuff’s cup
3. Marvolo Gaunt’s Ring
4. Something of Ravenclaw’s or Gryffindor’s
5. The Sorting Hat
6. Riddle’s Diary
7. The last part of Voldermort’s soul is in him.
So the diary and the ring are destroyed for sure. We can assume that the locket is the one in Sirius’s house. So that means if all my predictions are correct Then Harry has to come back to Hogwarts once for the Sorting Hat even if he doesn’t come back for schooling
Posted on August 13, 2005 04:22 PM | #
If regulus black is RAB, then what does the A stand for?
Besides regulus was killed by Lord Voldermort afer trying to back out from the death eaters 15years earlier because he panicked about what he was being asked to do. I therefore dont think that even if he did manage to live that he would be trying to thwart the dark lord.
Posted on August 13, 2005 09:46 PM | #
If Regelus Black is RAB then the A is is middle name… Well Sirius said that there were rumors… He never said it was proven…So maybe Regelus was killed by Voldermort for trying to destroy the Horcruxes… So then Voldermort put it out with his spies abput backing off because he didn’t want everybody t know he had Horcruxes…Especially the Order of the Phoenix….But I still do not think that RAB is regelus because Jk rowling will lead us to belive one thing and then do something none of us expected… And I think that everyone thought of Regelus Black as soon as they finished the book. And I don’t think any of us thought that she would make Snape DADA teacher… But she did so i think that she will do what we think she won’t do… So expect the unexpected1
Posted on August 13, 2005 09:57 PM | #
i was reading somewhere else that the name alphard, pops up somewhere in the 5th book when harry and sirius are talking about the black family tapestry. he was like sirus and regulus’s uncle, so maybee that could be regulus’s middle name???
but like could it be possible that RAB is more than one person?
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:03 PM | #
Yes I also remember reading something about the name Alphard in the 5th book… He was Tonkses Mother’s brother or something like that! They are talking about the Black Tapestry and then Sirius is saying how his cousin Andomera or something was his favorite cousin… NO WAIT! He was the one who left Sirius the money! So maybe that is his middle name…But I also support the theory of RAB being more than one person… Maybe Snape was involved… I was reading somewhere that it was Snape and Regelus and Snape made a potion that prevents death and put it in the basin.. So when Dumbledore went there he drank the potion which appeared to torture him but maybe it prevented death… So maybe Snape really did use Avada Kedavra but the potion prevented Dumbledore from dying but put him into a kinda trance.
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:30 PM | #
im not sure that snape would have been invovled. in the books, snape hated sirius. But then if snape is really on the good side, maybe dumbledore asked him to work with regulus so it didnt seem obvious? but i think that jk will do something like really twisted so it’ll be really hard to guess.
Posted on August 13, 2005 10:40 PM | #
RE: Sarah (comment 28) – THANK YOU! In all of the boards I have been on since finishing book 6, you are the first person I saw who shares my phoenix theory. A phoenix actually does die b4 being reborn. So DD’s death would have been real (which would have explained the portrait as well as Harry being freed from the spell), but not permanent. The only question I have is: if DD does come back to life, will he vanish from the portrait?
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:33 PM | #
Out of the blue this thought popped in my head. In book 1 when Harry got his wand, it was mentioned that it was made with the same thing (wanna say phoenix feather but my memory may be off) that was in Voldy’s wand and that they were the only 2 like that. Any chance that Harry’s wand could be the horcrux?
Posted on August 13, 2005 11:49 PM | #
Ya..its me again.. Its quite long but has a lot of stuff in it.
Somethin else popped in my head. In the 2nd book wen lucious malfoy was about to use avada kedavra against harry , dobby could stop him. And wher can u find the highest number of house elves? Hogwarts. And wat is the only creature that can apparate inside hogwarts?House - Elves.I don’t know wat but thats a coincidence or wat? And why does Hagrid mention buckbeak around twice or thrice in the book. Rowling purposely put that in i guess.SO I think buckbeak picked dumbledore while he was falling. In the lord of the rings an eagle takes gandalf from a tower.so this seems to be another coincidence. Now, one of the most safest and closest places to hogwarts is the forbidden forest. Dumbledore could be there along with Hagrids brother. Who is again mentioned by Hagrid in the book.(Hagrid has a habit of revealing important things accidently) .so this seems to be another coincidence. RAB is almost 100% Regelus Alphard Black.
About the horcruxes this is the list.
1. Slytherin’s locket ]-> Stuff
2. Hufflepuff’s cup ]-> Of
3. Something of Gryffindor’s]-> Hogwarts
4. Something of Ravenclaw’s ]-> Founders
5. Marvolo Gaunt’s Ring
6. Riddle’s Diary
7. Voldermorts human body.
And now for the final part….What happenned when voldermort killed Harry’s parents could have been this:
Vorldermort said the avada kedavra at potter but his mother protected him with the strongest counter spell….Love. Now at that point Lily died ad with this killing Voldermort accidentally created a 8th horcrux - Harry. Thus a part of his soul went into harry and voldermort was weakened.Thus harry got the scar and was linked to voldermort, got a part of his abilities like parseltongue. He exceeded the most powerful magical number of 7 by one thus losing a lot of his power.
He either realises it or not:
1. if he has realised that he had accidently created a 8th horcrux he wants to kill harry, destroy the 8th horcrux get it back to the most powerful number in magic 7. For this reason he wnated the Philosophers stone so that even if he destroys his horcrux he can still live forever.
2. If he does not realise this he wants to kill harry because he heard half the prophecy from snape and wants no one in his way on his way to glory.
After reading the book, wat strikes me most is Snape. He is a wizard as powerful as dumbledore and voldermort. He is amazing at potions,occlumency,legilemens,defence against the dark arts and from his potions book even at making new spells. Now the only problem is he isn’t as smart as the other two.
I have a question in the ooftp dumbledore talks about a room in the department of mysteries that is always locked up with some power….the power of something….He talks about this wen he talks bout voldermorts weakness. and more over i dont think sirius is dead.
Im sorry this is os long
Posted on August 14, 2005 03:25 AM | #
Im sorry but i made a mistake in my earlier comment. Voldermort coukdn’t have accidently created a 8th horcrux coz u have to say a spell for it. Since harry was in godrics hollow - the place were james and lily and potter lived maybe there was something of godric gryffindor there. Now voldermort killed wanted to kill harry and along with it create a horcrux on something of gryfindor. He must have said the spell and the spell might have been in such a way that it referred to both harry and the thing of gryffindor. Thus 2 horcruxes were made at the same time making Voldermort absolutely weak. He wasn’t prepared to lose another part of soul. Thus i came back to the 8 horcrux theory.
Posted on August 14, 2005 04:48 AM | #
Hey im human i made one more mistake…. i DON’T think anything of ravenclaw is a horcrux…Instead it is Nagini who is the other horcrux as brian said.Now I believe in the next book Patil sisters will somehow help Harry to kill Nagini because Nagini is an Indian Snake and why on earth would rowling put two indian sisters in the book???? Just a thought. One more thing. Sirius in the 5th book tells Regulus was asked to do something but he refused. I think as Sirius was James and Lily’s secret keeper Voldermort wanted Regulus to use the imperious curse on his brother or some other thing on Sirius to know were Jmaes and lily was….
Posted on August 14, 2005 06:40 AM | #
err those who tink harry is a horcrux i tink so too.voldemort made him a horcrux so that if harry lives voldemort does.and those who tink that voldemort will die after killin harry …WRONG he has other horcruxes >.
Posted on August 14, 2005 07:46 AM | #
i think harry is going to need a yoda type figure like luke skywalker had to make him this unbelievable wizard he will need to be. he was so ineffective against snape it was imbarassing. this teacher figure will have to be like the spirit of dumbledore or R.A.B. who obviously is a very powerful wizard. who ever he is.
Posted on August 14, 2005 07:57 AM | #
err hi again 1st thing those readin post plz i wanna talk/debate abt HP.2nd…although it is 99.99999999…% chance that regelus black is RAB there are still some others with thhat inital in the book.one may be at the beggining of the book(hint,hint)
Posted on August 14, 2005 08:13 AM | #
err why hasnt anyone started to talk abt harry n ginny?
Posted on August 14, 2005 08:25 AM | #
i dont know if dumbledore is dead or not. but one thing is for sure is that dumbledore could have taken on malfoy even without a wand and he also could have freed harry to curse malfoy. so he definatly wanted this to unfold the way it did.
also throughout the beginning of the book a main point was that people could be impersonated and therefore they needed codes to know for sure if someone was who they said they were. but nothing really unfolded from that.
i wonder if anyone thinks that someone was not who they were throughout the book and especially in the last scene.
i havent seen any posts concerning this.
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:09 AM | #
And my final post is to say that while we think and rack our brains on whether dumbledore died or not Rowling must be grinning coz she has this thing to change the whole freakin stroy in one book. FOR EXAMPLE - The Horcruxes. I mean where were the horcruxes in the last 5 books & im sure she #’ll come up with some really screwed up thing for snape maybe good or bad. Wat puzzles me is snape is the guy in whom albus dumbledore and lord voldermort trusted everything. If he is actually intelligent (which i don’t think he very much is) He might as well end up as the main enemy of harry potter. He knows how to destroy voldermort and he’s already ‘killed’ Dumbledore(Let the debate go on) So in the end he might be the One the Minsitry of Magic has to be afraid of…..If turns out to be good then he might end up as the minister of magic(although i really don’t want that to happen) coz he is the most powerful wizard of all time gaining the the trust of two of THE greatest wizards (who by the way wants to kill the other). How the hell does he manage that?
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:43 AM | #
i think the polyjuice potion will be used in some way again.
the only thing we can be sure of is rowling has another trick planned.
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:46 AM | #
I agree with Jay… There has to be something about impersonating people. Here is my theory…
I think Voldermort just said Regelus had been killed but really sent his Death Eaters hunting Regelus… If Regelus was RAB then he couldn’t destroy the locket because he had to run for and didn’t have enoguh time to do the destroying. So he took refuge with Dumbledore and Dumbledore kept him hidden… After the 5th book when Sirius dies Regelus decides it is time to come out of hiding and help the Order. So he takes the Polyjuice Potion and impersonates Dumbledore the whole year but is still getting instructions from Dumbledore on what to do and say. And Snape knew all this. So he really did kill but he didn’t kill Dumbledore he killed Regelus! And the reason he really could kill(because you need to enjoy it) was because he hated Sirius so he could also hate Regelus and also becaus ehe could have gotten that old Death Eater part of him back and been angry at Regelus for betraying Lord Voldermort! So Dumbledore is in hiding but alive! And I had another thought if Snape really did help Regelus get the Lockett Horcru then he wouldn’t sign his name ecause Voldermort still probably trusted Snape but all the Death Eaters knew that Regelus had betrayed Lord Voldermort! There are two more theories I support….
One that says that Dumbledore is an Animagi of a Phoenix or is really a Phoenix… Because Phoenixes do die before they are reborn… So Dumbledore could have really died and then be born again. OR here is my other theory…
I support the Witherwings(Buckbeak) Polyjuice Potion theory. Where Snape didn’t really kill Dumbledore and then Buckbeak stops Dumbledore from falling and take s the potion so Dumbledore goes into hiding and then Buckbeak was baried but Fawkes(if that really was Fawkes) made the tomb so Buckbeak could get out of the tomb without breaking it!
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:52 AM | #
i have a question. it shocks me how stupid harry is sometimes. he sees the name half blood prince and he knows voldomort was half blood. yet nothing clicks.
Posted on August 14, 2005 12:26 PM | #
To Harry: I don’t think that Regulus was impersonating Dumbledore thru the polyjuice potion because Dumbledore was pulling his own memories from his brain to show Harry in the pensieve. The polyjuice potion doesn’t allow you to take the other person’s memories, just their form.
Now, no one has mentioned this and I’ve been waiting, so I have to bring it up. Why would Dumbledore trust Snape after knowing that Snape betrayed James and Lily? What did Snape say that made Dumbledore trust him. I think that Snape was truly sorry because he was in love with Lily. She was great at potions, just like Snape, and when James was teasing Snape when they were in school, Lily stood up for him. I think Snape truly was sorry because he didn’t mean for Lily to get killed. Also, I think he has been planning this to get close to Voldemort so he can kill him. He wants revenge for Lily. I agree that Harry isn’t strong enough to take down Voldemort by himself, but I think that Snape will actually help him. Hermione is smart and I believe she and Ron will help Harry find the other horcruxes and destroy them. So, when Harry does finally face Voldemort, all of the other horcruxes will be gone, except Harry (who is a horcrux) and Voldemort, and they will both die.
Posted on August 14, 2005 02:30 PM | #
To JDO: Dumbledore was never pulling the memories from his head he was always pulling them from a bottle in his cloak! SO that is why I think Regelus was inpersonating Dumbledore. Also Harry can’t be Horcrux unless you are saying that JK is gonig to kill Harry off.
Now here is what I think… Snape loved Lily and he didn’t want her to be killed. What Snape did was ha told Voldermort the Prophecy reffered to the Potters! He didn’t tell him the exact thing… So Snape asked Voldermort to try and spare Lily… So he could marry her because I also think that Lily kinda liked Snape. So Voldermort tried as people have said he gave Lily a chance he said she didn’t have to die… BUT he didn’t bother giving James any chances… I think that Snape wanted James dead because he thought Lily would have married him if it hadn’t been for James…
Posted on August 14, 2005 03:28 PM | #
i agree with the lily snape thing i was thinking about thier common potion mastery. also voldermort said to lily she didnt have to die. maybe snape told him to spare lily. its possible but than again it doesnt fit with the mind set of voldermort. he doesnt spare anybody especially if its only that snape asked him as a favor. voldermort has no friends. he doesnt do favors for anyone.
i think this fawkes thing is a lil far fetched. in fact i dont think there is a chance dumbledore is still alive. he will be a factor somehow in the final book but not as a living person.
Posted on August 14, 2005 04:04 PM | #
My opinions are as follows:
1) Harry is NOT a horcrux. Tom wanted to make his last horcrux with Harry’s death, but in the end he couldn’t because he sorta got himself screwed over, so he made Nagini his last one, this was, of course all stated in the HBP.
2) Either Ginny will follow Harry, or they will get back together in the end of the book and get endgaged or something. Or, if Ginny follows him, maybe she’ll get killed. (cont. 3)
3) Harry is strong enough to kill Tom by himself. I believe a main part in this book is the strength of obsessive love (stated with the love-potion). I know for a fact how strong obsessive love is, therefore is Ginny dies (as stated in 2) or if someone else dies, then the obsessive love will give him enough strength to fight on. It could alose be that he already has enough hatred in him to fight Tom with the death of everyone he’s loved so far (other than Ginny, of course)
4) Is Albus dead? Well, that is really confusing. He could be just simply dead, and perhaps all portraits sleep when they are first made of the dead. Or, he could be a phoenix and have revived and that’s why the portrait was sleeping. Also, pheonixes can disapparate/apparate, even in Hogwarts (as seen in OoTP) and perhaps Albus never did die in the first time and he grabbed Fawkes’s tail and disappareted with him. I have a feeling Albus, nor Fawkes are gone quite yet.
5) I believe R.A.B. is Regulus Black. Some have said that J.K. likes to make us think something than make it completely different. What if she thought that everyone would think she was trying to make them think Regulus and it not be, so she changed it to be Regulus (not sure if that makes sense to anyone but it makes sense to me).
6) Snape. Well, he’s hard to say, he’s always seemed to be the evil one and all, but you never know with these books. However, I believe that it was preplanned and that Snape has indeed killed Albus upon Albus’s orders to save Snape. I believe Snape will play a vital role of the 7th book, and I don’t believe Tom is going to be too big of a role, maybe comes in in a few chapters at the end where they fight.
7) This is what I believe the Horcuxes to be:
i) Diary
ii) Gaunt’s ring
iii) Locket
iv) Nagini
v) Hufflepuff Cup
vi) Something of Ravenclaw’s or Gryffindors (I’m thinking more Godric)
vii) Tom himself
And that’s my views.
Posted on August 14, 2005 06:13 PM | #
Regulus is dead, or number 12 grimmauld place would have been passed to him instead of harry…..
right?
Posted on August 14, 2005 07:21 PM | #
Not neccisarily considering that Sirius’s will made it Harry’s. Hints to Albus being a Phoenix:
He is a registered animagus (confirmed by JK Rowling, I believe)
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Albus+Dumbledore&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=Albus%20Dumbledore
Posted on August 14, 2005 08:04 PM | #
Okay, i have a hunch.
Dumbledore had already visited the cave before he took harry with him, so he would have already known that an RAB character had taken the true horcrux. So then he asked Snape to whip up a potion that can bring some one back to life, and then put that potion into the stone basin. but one of the effects of the potion would cause Dumbledore great pain from drinking it and weaken him. but, dumbledore planned all this out of snape killing him but the potion would cause his body to erupt flames but, dumbledore came out in a form of a pheonix and turn back to Dumbledore in secret. But you may ask why would dumbledore take harry to retrieve the fake horcrux when he already had known that it was fake. it was because he wanted to show harry what it might be like to retrieve horcruxes if dumbledore and harry would split up.-(in my opinion)
so snape had killed killed dumbledore but is really still good, but now he will not be suspected by the death eaters now.
Now i have an idea about Harry being a horcrux. in the final confrontation with Voldemort and Harry, Neville and harry will both help out with the death of Bellatrix and after Harry has killed Bellatrix i think he will transfer the part of voldemort inside of him into a Horcrux which he will destroy. i think that would be the final horcrux besides voldemort. so now voldemort’s horcruxes are all destroyed and he will finally be defeated in the end some how…
please comment on my ideas.
by all means call me a stupid bum sweat baker that has no idea about what he is talking about.
but just comment
Posted on August 14, 2005 09:13 PM | #
CyberJohn: I am not gong to call you astupid bum sweat baker that has no idea about what he is talking about. Because I agree with some of your ideas such as the whole Snape theory… But I do not like your part about Harry beigna Horcrux…
I agree with CyberJohn’s thing about about DUmbledore knowing about about the Horcrux.
Posted on August 14, 2005 09:29 PM | #
well im glad some one could make aout a little of what i had to say!
Posted on August 14, 2005 09:59 PM | #
Importance of Fawkes
The wand cores of both Harry Potter’s and Lord Voldemort’s wands come from the tail feathers of Dumbledore’s pet phoenix Fawkes who shares a bond with Dumbledore. It has also been established by the author that Dumbledore’s Patronus is in the form of a phoenix.
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:02 PM | #
Im sorry im probably pretty annoying but i was just wondering aloud to anyone.
does anyone have an idea about who that huge blonde death eater was in the end of the HBP???
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:09 PM | #
Yes i agree with DJW!ldc@rd… There has to be some significance to the fact that the core of HArry’s and Voldermort’s wands came from Dumbledore’s pet Phoenix… Maybe there is a way(if Dumbledore is dead) that he can come back through Harry’s and Voldermort’s wands if there is another Priori Incantem…
Posted on August 14, 2005 10:10 PM | #
I’ve just realised…neville’s middle name is augusta or sumthin rite? i tink its one of his parents…maybe…
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:19 AM | #
i noe im being dumb by postin twice but i just thought again…dumbledore did not visit the cave before(not thoroughly anyway)because he had to take a while to figure out how to get in.if he went in before, he would have not said anythin abt the blood payment.
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:29 AM | #
ok…im getting dumb…his parents are frank and alice…nvm >.
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:57 AM | #
fourth time in a row postin…err kinda dumb…it may be amelia bones who was said to haf died in the biggining of HBP which nobody else has ever said anythin abt from my post above….
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:07 AM | #
Okay, the thing about Albus already going to the cave, maybe. Snape, in the first book, said he could teach the students how to cheat death with a potion, so perhaps that is what he did. Why did Albus seem like he was trying desperately to figure out how to get in to the cave and such, I think, perhaps, it was to show to Harry that magic leaves traces and can always be found, therefor if they were to be split up for some reason, then Harry himself would perhaps be able to detect the reminance of magic.
Quote from answers.com
“In the ensuing battle, Sirius actually disappears - he falls through an arch and does not reappear; he is thereafter presumed dead. He was hit by a stunning spell by Bellatrix Lestrange, his own cousin. This sent Sirius through a mysterious veil, which is presumed to have killed him. This is still not solidly answered, and may be a plot in future Rowling works.” With this, perhaps Sirius will return in some way in the 7th book.
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:43 AM | #
i think whoever says that Dumbledore isn’t dead and that snape is innocent and that harry is a horcrux, are completely wrong.
jkr wouldn’t have said that somebody died in the book if somebody hadn’t died and also jkr keeps saying how dumbledore can be wrong. harry isn’t a horcrux because then jkr would have to kill harry in the end, and i don’t beleive so and also dumbledore says there’re only 7 horcruxes.
i’m not sure about regulus black. i mean, only somebody with extraordinary powers will be able to find the horcrux, and regulus doesn’t seem the type to me. personaly i think it’s a new character.
i think harry will find two horcruxes in the following places:
godric’s hollow-something of gryffindor
the house of that huflepuff lady-the cup
because voldemort likes to hide the horcruxes at places that something important has happened there e.g. the ring at the house of gaunt where he probably did his first murder, the cave where he tortured those kids and hogwarts(chamber of secrets-he opened it) where the diary was found.
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:43 AM | #
i also think that sirius wouldn’t return as jkr said that people don’t come back from the dead
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:45 AM | #
well ive got this reallly far fetched theory, but thats what rowling does right? im thinkin that dumbledore made a horcrux through fawkes. i think he killed aragog to do it.i mean its a perfect plan…a phoenix never dies. he didnt ever really have that cheery sound in his voice towards the end of the book. i dunno… its prolly wrong… but its a thought. dumbledore could still be alive?
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:21 AM | #
I don’t know why all of you are wrapped up in the portrait being the reason why dumbledore is dead. It said his picture was placed alongside the portraits of other dead headmasters. Never does it mention that you have to be dead to have your picture up there, and whos to say dumbledore didn’t bewitch it to go up there as a further decoy of his. He is not dead and the fact lies in the use of nonverbal spells. In every single book, spells that were taught during the year were used in great effect. The summoning charm for example was learned and immediately used to save harry from the dragon. Another for example, the patronus. The learning about werewolves. Learning to levitate in the first to beat the troll. All of these things and more were used yet if anyone can tell me where nonverbal spells were used yet please point out where. Rowling uses all spells in the end and this one hasn’t been used. It is obvious that Snape made it look like the killing curse but in fact did a different curse that looked like the adeva kedavra. As we also know he is good at making up spells and made one that looked like the adeva kedavra. One of you also mentioned dumbledore was not afraid to die. Correct, so why would he plead for snape not to kill him???? All of these things show that this is all part of a plan by dumbledore to trick voldemort into thinking he is dead, just like he let slip that he could do the same thing for malfoy!?!
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:12 AM | #
I absolutly disagree that Dumbledore is alive, just because he was “asleep in his portrait” All the portraits sleep! But I can’t understand why Harry didn’t think to go look in the head office and see if he was there.
Also Voldemort couldn’t possibly have made Harry a Horcrux, baecause the prophecy states that “neither can live while the other survives” and if Harry is supposed to be finding and destroying the horcruxes, and he some how found out that he was one, then how can he kill himself and then Voldemort?? It’s impossible!!
I also believe that Sirius is definetly dead, and i do not believe that Regules Black is RAB your only making that conecction because the first and last name fits in with the first and last letter of the initials, but does anyone know what Regulas’s middle name is? NO!
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:24 AM | #
and to add to the fact that if dumbledore is dead, what about the fawkes’ song. He always did this before healing, what if he is transferring the power to dumbledore to be reborn from his ashes. This would give credit to rowling to say that somebody died if they came back, and would also give an explanation to the flames at dumbledores funeral, as we have found out that flames do not harm witches or wizards (they just acted like it when muggles would tie them to stakes and attempt to burn them: remember)and also would explain the phoenix that came from the flames. So either my other theory is right that he isn’t dead or this other a bit more illogical course of action that he is reborn is true, dumbledore will be back.
In case he isn’t though, props to rowling for throwing this huge twist in her series. Really did anybody expect it??
Also didn’t the message inside the locket from RAB say he had destroyed the only real horcrux(the real locket) leaving voldemort mortal. That would mean he is free to die and no potter as the seventh horcrux. And does anybody know if they will be returning to school the next year because it sure doesn’t look like it.
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:25 AM | #
Ohh yeah one more thing that I have stumbled upon. Recall all things Snape says to harry in the very first ever potions class. WOLFSBANE, BEZOAR, and DRAUGHT OF LIVING DEATH. Hmm, lets see. WOLFSBANE used in book 3 for Lupin. BEZOAR used in book 6 by harry to save ron. DRAUGHT OF LIVING DEATH, made by who else than harry in book 6. Now look at the position that harry mentions dumbledore is lying in when he is on the ground. and I quote, from page 608 American edition “Dumbledore’s eyes were closed; but for the strange angle of his arms and legs, he might have been sleeping.” Hmm interesting all other things mention by snape in the first book have been used and not the draught of living death yet. This could easily be the place where rowling used it. It also coincides with dumbledore inching backward. This seemed important as harry was watching him yet nothing ever became of it. My theory is that he took the potion before snape came and inching backward was when he did it.
Posted on August 15, 2005 09:42 AM | #
i sorta agree with matt about R.A.B destroying the horcruxes, but hu is to say that harry and R.A.B will get along and both hunt the horcruxes.
Also i think that Fawkes is alot more significant than ‘just Dumbledore’s phoenix’.
And J.k *i think* confirmed that Dumbledore’s animagus is a phoenix. so maybe a switching spell *Dumbledore is very gifted at Transfiguration* or a Duplication spell will come into it, that Fawkes is actually Dumbledore’s animagus.
another hunch i have is to why Fawkes is in Harry’s & Voldemort’s wand. maybe when Dumbledore told tom in the orphange to go to Diagon Alley and everythng, maybe Dumbledore gave Ollivander a tale feather from Fawkes so that Fawkes could like ,be tied to Harry and Voldemort, like to constrict Voldemort from killing Harry in the fourth book.
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:04 AM | #
I think it is possible for harry to be a Horcrux and still live when Voldemort dies because, he could kill some death eater (like bellatrix) or someone and then transfer the part of voldemorts soul inside him into a horcrux and destroy it which makes Voldemort vulnerable now. (assumming all the other horcruxes are destroyed) just a hunch.
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:05 AM | #
and i like Matt’s theory abouth the Draught of Living Death, he is quite right.
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:07 AM | #
There are many good theories… But I think that Snape is still good because Harry calls him a coward and asks him to stand and fight like a man in the 6th book….When Harry calls him a coward he gets very angry becaus ehe just had to kill Dumbledore Which I think was a part of Dumbledore plan…. I agree with Easter…. DD has been to the cave before!
I also agree with Matt if DD portrait is there that doesn’t mean that he is dead… IT just so happens that all the Headmasters /mistresses that have portraits happen to be dead! So I also agree that DD made a Horcrux out of Fawkes by killing Aragog… But I think that when a Phoenix burns up the horcrux is destroyed…
Posted on August 15, 2005 10:40 AM | #
why is it that only hogwarts headmasters can talk to u from a painting after death but harry’s parents can’t. or any wizard for that matter. that doesnt make any sense to me.
another problem i have is harry said after he found out about the horcruxes “thats why voldermort didnt die” so how does it work every time you die a hrcrux is used up or no. cause it would make sense that if u die a horcrux gets used up and thats why making 7 is better than 2. if so that it gets used up how come one wasnt used up already after voldermort died trying to kill harry.
can anyone answer these questions
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:22 PM | #
It didn’t say how Aragog died but when you think about it it doesn’t make sense that Dumbledore killed Aragog because Hagrid doesn’t say that Aragog just died like that(with a snap of a finger) it says that aragog was dieing and then he died… But then when you think about again Hermionie asks Hagrid “couldn’t Dumbledore do anything” well Hagrid might have asked but Dumbledore wasn’t there so he might have left a not or something so Dumbledore got to know and then he went and killed Aragog…that is why Hagrid replies”Dumbledore is to busy to handle things like this”… But also notice that Hagrid acted like Aragog was dead the first time he told Harry, Ron, and Hermionie… So maybe he did tell Dumbledore and Dumbledore kneew he had to make a horcrux soon so I think that DD told Hagrid that he had to kill Aragog… That is why Hagrid seemed sad from the beggining…
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:26 PM | #
who says u can make a horcrux by killing an animal. it wouldnt be such a big deal then. i just stepped on a really big bug. i dont think animals qualify. when whatever his name is told voldermort about it he said it requires something horrible to rip apart your soul. killing a bug (granted a really big bug) would 100% not work. besides that dumbledore thought the idea of a horcrux as horrible. he would never do it.
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:34 PM | #
I think you are right jay. Slughorn said you had to commit a great sin to make a horcrux… Everybody steps on plenty of bugs… But notice on thing they never talk about any bugs in Hogwarts… Well that is kinda stupid soooooooooo it doesn’t matter
Posted on August 15, 2005 02:59 PM | #
dumbledores man, read my post before the last i have 2 questions i want to know if u could answer
Posted on August 15, 2005 03:06 PM | #
Well Jay: There areen’t any portraits of Lily and James… And well if you are talking about Harry’s album maybe the photo has to be in a special frame( such as the one Hogwarts Headmasters are in) to be able to talk… Horcruxes don’t get used up after the guy dies…
Posted on August 15, 2005 04:00 PM | #
I think that the pictures of people have to be like portraits or paintings to be able to speak.
because in photographs it would make sense if the photographs just copied the behavior of the people in the picture. but paintings i guess take more effort to make so, they talk. (i guess)
and i don’t think dumbledore would make a horcrux for himself because being the great wizard he was (or is) he would probably find better ways to prolong life or to stop death.
Posted on August 15, 2005 04:37 PM | #
Dumbledore would not prolong his life. He even says himself that he is not afraid of death. He is just living out his life so there is no way he made a horcrux
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:49 PM | #
Okay,
I have been reading the comments on this site for a few days now and I think I will finally post one of my own now.
“hem hem”
to all of those who think Snape is truly on the dark side. that is an idea that i think is very stupid.
for one why would Snape have been so quick to make an unbreakable vow with mrs. malfoy when that was a lot to ask of someone?
because Snape had obviously already made a vow with dumbledore that he had to promise to protect students at hogwarts (so he would already be protecting draco like Narcissa wanted, and it might explain why snape was saving harry’s neck in the first book) and i think that dumbledore and snape had already planned dumbledores death. (exactly how CyberJohn had said in comment #94) so Snape made those vows with Narcissa because they went right along with his ‘suppossed’ vow with Dumbledore. make sense?
i have also heard that there might very well be an 8th book too. so we can only wait now.
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:51 PM | #
If Regulus Black is RAB, is it possible that he was killed by voldemort and came back as a ghost and his ghost destroyed the locket to get revenge?
Posted on August 15, 2005 05:58 PM | #
You see, I don’t remember it saying that Regulus was dead, just that he was supposed to be killed for betraying Tom…
I really doubt Albus would make a horcrux himself, because it doesn’t seem like something he would do. Albus is a very powerful wizard, and I doubt he would need a horcrux to survive even if he wanted to. Albus is a 150 years old, I think he wants to die at that age :-P …
In the fifth book, when Albus battle’s Tom, Tom summons a shield, which, judging by its discription, I doubt is the same as the “protego” shield charm. I believe it is a much stronger, more powerful shield, which I believe will come in again…
I also completely believe that Albus is, in some way or form, still alive and that Snape is innocent. I believe that the reason why JKR said that someone is dead, is to make people believe Albus is truely dead, but “surprise” everyone with his return in a seventh book…
I don’t really believe that Sirius will be back, what I stated earlier was someone’s elses opinion that he was never confirmed dead…
I am really hoping that there are 8+ books, although I think she was signed for only 7. I hope after the 7th, there are more in some way. Perhaps a background, like the “first war.” I history to main characters, ie: Albus, Lupin, James, Lily, Sirius, Molly, Aurthur, etc. I would prefer to see something explaining how everyone got to where they are in the first place. How James and Lily betrayed Tom “thrice” and same with the Longbottoms.
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:28 PM | #
I am not sure… I am sure that Snape was innocent but I am not sure of the fact thta Dumbledore is alive or dead. I agree with CyberJohn. I think the reason portraits can talk is because more effort has been put into them… But then that wouldn’t explain how the picture of Phienas Nigelus in Sirius’s house can talk! Easter: the Potters and Longbottoms didn’t betray LV thrice… They defied him thrice… This is what is says *The one with power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies to those who have thrice defied the him…* So as Dumbledore thinks it was Harry because *he marked him as his equal*…
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:48 PM | #
Yes, well, defied, betrayed, close enough. I want to know how the defied him. Btw, I think the portaits have to be enchanted to talk, with spells, and such, not just someone taking a picture, or drawing one.
Posted on August 15, 2005 06:58 PM | #
so then why didnt harrys parents do one for him. im not so sure the magical paintings are actually panited. dumbledores painting just appeared.
also dumbledore said voldermort would prefer these horcruxes to the sorcereres stone because he doesnt want to be dependent on it. but if he dies he is still dependent on someone to help him to be brought back to human form.
plus if ull argue that harrys parents werent good enough to make the painting. voldermort certainly should have made one just in case someone killed and he needed someone to bring him back to life.
also why dont they use dobby and the house elves to help them fight. they seem to be the most powerful of anyone. they can apperate in hogwarts and dobby beat the … out of lucias malfoy. they could have taken on all the death eaters no problem
Posted on August 15, 2005 07:47 PM | #
Good point about the house-elves. Perhaps they will come in the 7th book. Personally, I say Dobby kicks a$$. Dobby likes to protect Harry as much as he can, he even fights with Kreacher just for saying bad things about Harry, so perhaps Dobby will be in the 7th with a little role.
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:02 PM | #
hey what if the sorting hat is a horcrux, idk if anybody said that yet
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:05 PM | #
hey i will be on tommorrow(aug.16), all day, i have some mind blowing speculations look for me. i have too many for me to start tonight
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:08 PM | #
how does a person get access to a horcrux?
Posted on August 15, 2005 08:19 PM | #
About the house elves thing. Yeah they r really powerful but one can’t use them to fight because the death eaters will have a pretty simple counter attack - socks. Then the house elves will be on their side causing more the trouble…
In the 6th book narcissa does not tell wat malfoys mission is nor does snape. It could be anything. And if voldermort wanted revenge on lucious he could well have killed draco himself…No it was something else that draco’s mission was…
Anyways back to my Snape is the most powerful wizard thing. Come on guys …. he is the greatest (ill kick myself in the back for saying this)coz as i told u he freakin got the trust of two of the most ever greatest wizards Dumbledore and Voldermort with their highest trust while each of them knows that Snape is with the other.
How on good ol’ mother earth does he manage that????????????????????????????????
Posted on August 15, 2005 11:22 PM | #
Yeah..and one more thing i dont trust Rufus Scrim guy. And wy did voldermort kill amelia bones and the other female???? And umbridge … why is she still there in the ministry?? And by the way another theory on wat happened to dumbledore…..
This theory saying snape is evil… Snape used the avada kedavra on dumbledore which hit him squarely on the chest sending him flying out. He falls on the ground dead….#Then at the grave he is reboen from the ashes and comes out as a phoenix.
By the way i know the above theory is stupid…
One more piece of info….
The guy who works at Hogs Head is Aberforth - Dumbledore’s brother …confirmed by JK Rowling.
Posted on August 15, 2005 11:29 PM | #
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:31 AM | #
ok restart sara r.a.b is reuglus alphard black.brian dumbledore didnt hear the prophecy until voldemort had his wand.dumbledore wuld not even noe that the feathers wuld save harry nor did he tink voldemort wuld go after harry…it culd be neville at that time.ollivander did not immediately give harry his wand.he had to check millions of wands obviously he did not purposely give harry that wand
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:35 AM | #
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Posted on August 16, 2005 06:39 AM | #
mrguy, YOU are a cleany weeny! stop the stupid so am i crap
Posted on August 16, 2005 07:26 AM | #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter:_Book_Seven
thought you with like that one
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:54 AM | #
One thing that doesn’t seem to be discussed: Why did Dumbledore have such trust in Snape? I agree that Snape is an undercover good guy, but there must be something more that we don’t know. Brothers or something?
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:11 AM | #
Well i think that Snape made an unbreakeable vow with Dumbledore so he wouldnt betray him. But then again snape could be bad because it was said that dumbledore has made mistakes before.
I dont think DUmbledore is . When Dumbledore was with malfoy and malfoy said if i dont kill you they will kill me and my family. (or along those lines) and Dumbledore he cannot kill you if you are already . Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completly than you can imagine. So i think that if Dumbledore could make people think that someone is why couldnt he do it to himself this way if he did it
there is no suspision of snape he can still look for horcruxes and snape is voldemorts top man.
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:13 PM | #
I made some mistakes so this is the real one.
I dont think DUmbledore is . When Dumbledore was with malfoy and malfoy said if i dont kill you they will kill me and my family. (or along those lines) and Dumbledore he cannot kill you if you are already . Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completly than you can imagine. So i think that if Dumbledore could make people think that someone is why couldnt he do it to himself this way if he did it
there is no suspision of snape he can still look for horcruxes and snape is voldemorts top man.
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:36 PM | #
I think that Zelph is totally right and he is a genius.
Then i think that Mrs. Figg will turn in to dumbledore
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:59 PM | #
And she will Unleash all her cats on to the eaters.
Posted on August 16, 2005 12:59 PM | #
I dont think DUmbledore is . When Dumbledore was with malfoy and malfoy said if i dont kill you they will kill me and my family. (or along those lines) and Dumbledore he cannot kill you if you are already . Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completly than you can imagine. So i think that if Dumbledore could make people think that someone is why couldnt he do it to himself this way if he did it
there is no suspision of snape he can still look for horcruxes and snape is voldemorts top man.
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:01 PM | #
mrguy your theory is the est thing i have ever heard in my life
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:03 PM | #
who thinks hermione could be harry’s older sister???????????????i have quite a few hints and proof.
?????would u like to hear them???
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:06 PM | #
Kansas i want to heard some of these mind blowing speculations
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:13 PM | #
I agree, Snape made some kinda promise to Dumbledore whether it is an Unbreakable Vow or something else he has made some promise to Dumbledore. I thnk this is why Snape was so quick to make the Unbreakable Vow to Narcissa… And if Narcissa told Lord Voldermort he would immeadietly figure out that Snape was with Dumbledore. BUT if Narcissa told Lord Voldermort then she and Malfoy would be in a lot of trouble because she was about to tell Snape the plan which she was forbiddenn to tell anyone. So she wouldn’t yap amd shut up and Snape could keep his cover.We know that Snape was a very good Legilimens from the 5th book. SO I think Snape didn’t know what the plan was but he used Legilimency to tap into Narcissa’s mind and find out what the plan was he alsofound out that Narcissa was going to make an Unbreakable Vow and maybe when Snape walked to the window maybe he could cummunicate telepathically with Dumbledore and asked him what to do and Dumbledore told him to make the Vow, which would let him kinda keep his cover, because Snape either accepts or flat out refuses he doesn’t say I will think about it or anything like that. So if he flat out refused then Narcissa and Ballatrix might suspect something espacially Bellatrix. I also think Dumbledore knew this that is why he told Snape to accept. Do you remember when all of them are in teh hospital wing after the Death Eaters leave and Snape supposedly ‘kills’ Dumbledore? Well then Lupin says “We all knew Snape was a very good Legilimens” Well I think Lupin was just referring to the fact that how well Snape played his part because if it was part of a plan Dumbledore would have told the Order. And if the Order knew that Dumbledore was alive they wouldn’t want the kids toknow because if Voldermort asked Snape who HArry’s friends were Snape would say Ginny, Ron, and Hermionie and Voldermort could just break into their minds and learn a bunch of thing if he thought beaking into Harry’s mind was way too dangerous as Duumledore said.
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:17 PM | #
i just thought of this. voldemort wanted to have 7 horcruxes because 7 was like the most powerful number of whatever the reason was. the prophecy said that the person would be born in july (the seventh month). i don’t think that was a coincidence.
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:19 PM | #
Kansas where is the proof?
I agree with random person there is no way taht is a coincedence
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:23 PM | #
i think that part of voldemort’s path to immortality has to do with killing all of his relatives that still exsist.(to a certain limit in closeness in relation)an dumby knows this
consider this story;
james potter is feeling very worried, as never before in his life…
he has just left school and married lily.adn dumbledore has considered it is time to fill james in on his terrible secret.
so, the dark lord’s true family name is riddle, just as his own mother.(voildemort had an older sister nobody-not even hm-knew about. she married a wizard named potter and they had james, making voldy james’ uncle and harry’s great uncle.)nom, james knows he is the last living relative of voldemort; and he knows he is voldemort’s target for that reason. (that explains why lily needn’t have died).what can he do then?james has great courage, but the future of all mankind is at stake, not only his own life!
if voldemort ever finds him, and kills him, all will be lost:
the dark lord will be immortal, and no one-not even dumbledore-will be able to stop him.the age of darkness will begin and last forever.
unless…
of course, there is only one thing he can do.
the potters understand they must have children, sveral if possible, and a.s.a.p.. furthermore, they should not keep all their children in the same place.
so, i think it is at least a possiblity that hary has a bro or sis, who the potters would have hidden as soon as he/she was born, and who would have lived with adoptive parents ever since.
i know….supposing that hermione is harry’s sister is very star-wars like, but y not?
could hermione be harry’s sister?is it even possible?we know she was born in sep. and harry was born in july. it seems logical to think that hermione is 10 months older that harry, not 2 months younger.(and proof of this opinion is that she was old enough to take her aparation test and harry wasn’t, so she has to be 10 months older.)so that they were both eleven years old on sep. 1, the year they entered hogwarts.in that case, the brother sister thing is highly possible. a 10 month dif.(nearly 10.5 in fact) is a very short time indeed, but remember? suppose lily and james were in a hurry….i’ve all the clues here with me, but do u people think?…………..
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:32 PM | #
who would harrys brother be?
and how could his mom get pregnant like that he she would have to get pregnant with hermione then harry while she is still pregnant
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:36 PM | #
what do you think will happen with harry and ginny
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:44 PM | #
harry and hermione, is there only friendship between them? or something else? anyway, they are very close friends at the very least.
ron and hermione are quite obviously attracted to eachother: theur quarrels might be an indication that they will end up together, or maybe not.
the harry hermione relation is very dif.: they seem somehow “naturally”,close to eachother.quite often, each of them seem to know what the other is has in mind.
i think that should mean something imprtant:
-either it means they will fall in love in the next books. this is a real possibility, the kiss hermione gives harry at the end of book four might be a beginning, but i think a ron-hermione romance is more probable.
- or it means that there is something else between them. of course the brother sister thing would fit perfectly.
so, let’s see, if harry and hermione are siblings, then the grangers are hermione’s adoptive parents. maybe they aren’t really muggles, just pretending.
who knows the truth about hermione?
obviouslky, harry has no clue; i think dumbledore knows the truth, along with a few other teachers(at least lupin and mcgonagall)and probably sirius.the grangers must know. and another little idea is that hermione knows herself. after all we know that hermioni is able to keep a secret(time turner).
all this speculation. so, it is time for some hints to support the harry harmione theory…
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:47 PM | #
Well she could have gotten pregnant. You see Herlionie was born. Then she gets pregnant again and 10 and a half onths later she has Harry. So it is possible and I think might be true
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:47 PM | #
1.-a minor physical resemblance, both are unable to comb their hair.
-at the beginning of book 1, befor harry and hermione are friends, before they really even know eachother, hermione’s behaviour is a bit excessive, she keeps interfearing in harry’s affairs, much more than anybody else’s affairs:
“i can’t believe you’re going to do this, harry”
harry and ron are leaving gryffindor tower together, so y only say this to harry?
…….
Posted on August 16, 2005 01:55 PM | #
hermione being his sister would be a major twist and very start wars like. but it never mentions that she is an adopted child. just muggle born. if it is true though than ron would be hon solo, and he is no hon solo. hes more like the gold robot ( i think its c3po).
also one thing ive been waiting to comeback is the fact that harry could do magic with out a wand. in one of the earlier books he blew a locked door in the dursleys open while his wand was in the trunk that was behind the door. does anyone remember this
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:03 PM | #
BIG HINT-in book two, just after hern=mione and penelope are petrified, professor macgonagall goes straight to harry:
“potter, i think you’d better come with me.”
wy?
i don’t think it’s jsut beacause hermion is his friend; she would ahve asked ron as well. but no, she doesn’t care about ron. only anfter her and harry are returning to the castle does ron come running up, and she agrees.
“yes, perhaps you’d better come too, weasley.”
quite streange isn’t , but if she knows they are siblings, her behaviour is totally normal……
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:04 PM | #
-in book three, in lupin’s class when they are battling the boggart, he doesn’t let harry battle the boggart beacause he is afraid it will take the form of lord voldemort, but y doesn’t he let hermione fight it. i think he is afraid it will reveal something about her past and harry and her. even if this isn’t the reason i think this is very interesting, because i once read a rumor that hermione is a werewolf, because it answers her call in book three, and werewolves only respond to it’s own kind’s call. anyways, in book five hermione fights another boggart for exams, but she was alone so nobody knows the truth. also i heard that her story was a bit ridikilus, but when i tried to find what she said to ron and harry about her boggart i couldn’t find it. could somebody help?? ……………
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:12 PM | #
the bogart was proffesor mgonagol and she asys she failed all of her exams
in the third book
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:14 PM | #
in a second i will find the page and tell it to you
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:16 PM | #
in book four in the three broomsticks pub, when harry is being interviewd by rita skeeter rita asks harry…
“would u ever call hagrid a father substitute?”
hermione’s reaction to this is very violent.
she stands up”…very abruptly, her butterbeer clutched in her hand as if it were a grenade.”
why?after all, these words were nothing worse than what rita was saying bfore.
obviously, it was the words “father substitute.” that caused hermione’s reaction. i think it was because she was raised by adoptive parents and knows it…..anybody find her boggart story in book five. i have a book with me right here but can’t find it. …………..
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:19 PM | #
o it’s in book threeeeeeeeeee
doesn’t it sound a bit weird
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:21 PM | #
in the third book on page 319 it shows hermiones boggarts form and in book 5 mrs weasly was the one who faught the boggart but she couldnt do it so lupin took care of it
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:21 PM | #
her boggarts form it sounds like it has been tampered with why would that be her scariest thought or thing
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:22 PM | #
i know she all about grades, but why would she freak out that much over something like that
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:23 PM | #
thats another thing they have in common if they are both from the same parents niether of them aer afraid of voldemort (their parents killer) the most they both fear something else more
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:23 PM | #
it says hermion came screaming out of the trunk
i bet that she saw harry dieing or somthing and she made up the other boggart
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:29 PM | #
also in book one-
when harry and hermione introduce themselves for the first time she says something i find to be a bit peculiar…
“..i’d have found out everything if it was me.”
i don’t hink anybody else ever sais something like that to harry.
“if it was me”“if i was the one who defeated the dark lord.”
does she mean it could have been her?
i think she is just encouraging harry into finding out so that he discovers they are sibling without her telling him. woe, i just thought of this. what if the secret keeper charm was performed before she came to hogwarts and she can’t tell harry, only the certain secret keeper, which is probably dumbldore, but if harry finds out himself that won’t harm anything. he can’t keep a secret from himself. ……….
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:30 PM | #
but hermione is afraid she still wont say voldermorts name
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:32 PM | #
one more thing
i think hermione released trevor on purpose so that she could go and meet harry(who she heard was on the train)for what shouldn’t have been the first time
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:33 PM | #
she was the only one who started saying his name after the d.a. meeting and ever since has said it
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:35 PM | #
also i know this even more far fetched that hermione and harry being siblings, but what if ginny is harry’s baby sister. she has the same color hair as lily and the same coloe eyes as james(haizel) this would explain hagrids 24 hour absence after voldemort’s attack.
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:40 PM | #
there is another clue in the fourth book on page 290 its harry and hermione talking
in books 1 and 3 hermione and harry get left near the end together cause ron gets hurt
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:42 PM | #
thats interesting but kinda gross cause they have been snogging
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:43 PM | #
i guess this is somewhat on topic, has anyone realized how little time Hermione actually spends with the Grangers?(her parents) IT is almost like they are a Dursley-like family that are only supposed to watch Hermione. She is always at Ron’s house or Grimmauld Place before Harry is.
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:45 PM | #
you have to refresh the page every time to see new comments
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:46 PM | #
snogging???? what r u talking about zelph, when does somebody say something about snogging??
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:46 PM | #
in the 5th book at the bottom of pg 533 harry and Ginny kiss
well you could only guess this goes further…
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:48 PM | #
what’s this i hear about it being possible that dumbledore is ron weasley form the future
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:48 PM | #
i read that it makes sense but it’s very difficult
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:50 PM | #
hey guys i’m gettin kinda sick of talkin to meself
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:51 PM | #
i agree with ADAM and i think thatall of Kansas’ ideas are very intriging. The thing abouth ginny being harry’s younger sis might explain why harry felt so angry or upset when he spotted Ginny and Dean kissing
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:51 PM | #
hello, hey can one of u say an idea i’m sick of thinking of them and typing them all out
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:52 PM | #
hey kansas calm down i just barely commented
if you have msn messenger you can talk faster
do you?
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:54 PM | #
o screw it i’ll say another idea. what if the sorting hat ia a horcrux anf it belonged to gryffindor, but then dumbledore would have detected it, but knowing jk’s style she could easily find a way around this.
maybe it has to do with pulling more items out of the sorting hat like the sword in cos, that thing wasn’t sent by anybody it just appeared there. maybe anything can appear there if u desterately need it, like a cross between the mirror of erised and the room of requirement
Posted on August 16, 2005 02:58 PM | #
Adam that is so true the only time i remember her with her family is the first two books book three she was at the leaky cauldron with harry four she was at the weaslys 5 she was at grimmauld place six she was also at the weaslys doesnt this strike you as kind of weird?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:00 PM | #
kansas that sounds very likely it is very possible i bet if they wanted some horcruxes they could get them and whose idea was ron weasly being dumbledore?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:02 PM | #
i don’t remember who said the ron/dumby thing i read it somewhere, but the person that said it said that it makes alot of sense once it’s figured out and explained.
?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:05 PM | #
i said it is very likely i mean they probably could
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:06 PM | #
i dont think ron is dumbledore
i heard that dumbledore was harry in the future and he came back to help fix some mistakes
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:08 PM | #
last night i was talking on this post with this lady her name was “you (don’t) know who”, i explained all of my ideas about harry and hermione being bro and sis, but she seemed to find a way to reject all of the clues and explain why they could be wrong. then she said “we could be reading all of these clues wrong, jk made mistakes in writing the books that would explain how these clues are misread and taken the wrong way. THIS IS ALL GUESS WORK RIGHT???????”
that’s what she said the i said”yes, this is all guess work, but isn’t everything on these posts guesswork??? the only way it couldn’t be guesswork is if you or i were jkr ourselves.”
then she said”i’m not jk.”
then she disappeared and i never heard from after that. it was pretty freaky.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:12 PM | #
what were some of the excuses you (don’t) know who had?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:14 PM | #
Dumbledore can not possibly be Harry unless Harry died his hair Auburn or it changed to Auburn within a few years.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:14 PM | #
anyways, i think that either the room of requirement, the sorting hat , and the mirror of erised will all have an either big or small role in book seven
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:15 PM | #
why in the world would some one think that Ron weasley is Dumbledore’s Past??? that idea sounds like some idiot deceded to be retarded and make up a rumor. i mean if you look at ron in the books, he isn’t that smart. but dumbledore is the greatest wizard in the world. it doesen’t make the slightest bit of sense
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:25 PM | #
i’ll just give u the site. but the stupid guy that ran the sight closed it because he thought we were getting too “chatty”.
and get this. i just realized that before she said she wasn’t jk she found a way to reject a couple more of my theories, o crap, that stupid guy that ran the post cut off like half of the posts there were around two hundred. it’s confusing. he cut off the part where she says she’s not jk and disapears. he mus’tve cut it off by one commet because she said it and dissapeared right after that.look….http://www.binarymoon.co.uk/2005/08/harry-potter-conspiracy-theory-1-rab/….also, i started posting around 117 to let ya know so u can read it.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:26 PM | #
also what do u think of this, the grey lady of ravenclaw is rowena ravenclaw herself and will know revealing secrets about salazar slytherin. also that one of luna’s items that gets lost in book six is one of rowena ravenclaw’s things. that was a pretty large section of the end of the book to talk about something getting lost. i think somebody sho is a pet of one of the students(trevor the toad being regulous’ animangi form) takes advantage of the end of the year feast to go searching through luna’s things for the item maybe finding it, maybr losing it in their haste to search. i think trevor the toad could be somebody’s animangi form. he always seems to get away from neville. maybe searching the castle for something.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:43 PM | #
where does it talk about luna losing things of rowena ravenclaws? what page?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:46 PM | #
do u live in the uk zelph? i’ve talked to people in the uk without even knowing it before
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:47 PM | #
harry and voldermort seem to another thing in common. they both do magic unknowingly when they are younger. i dont think any other wizard could do magic without a wand.
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:47 PM | #
not rowena’s. but it says she loses things or get’s them stolen. book six is the only one i don’t have with me at the time. it’s before the funeral or the feast or something idk id remember
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:49 PM | #
i don’t live in the uk. why? does it only talk about luna losing ravenclaw’s things in the uk version?
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:49 PM | #
remember zelph she’s posting those flyers for her lost items
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:50 PM | #
i dont remember her posting anything about any lost items either
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:51 PM | #
no n/v/m about the uk… sorry i g2g eat i’ll be back in a half hour or so…jay, when does harry do magic without a wand on purpose?? all young witch/wizards do unexpected things without wands when they’re young
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:53 PM | #
in one of the books the dursleys lock his trunk with the wand in it in a closet and he was so angry he made the door blow open so he could get his trunk and leave. i think it was the third book but im not sure
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:55 PM | #
i think your talking about in book 5 not six i think it’s on like page 862
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:55 PM | #
he dtd that out of pure rage in book one he did the same thing with the snake in book one when the glass vansihed
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:56 PM | #
kansas, at the end of “aunt marges big mistake” chapter it says “the cupboard door burst magically open as he reached it”
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:58 PM | #
it still shows he could do magic without a wand on purpose. he just doesnt know how to harness it yet
Posted on August 16, 2005 03:59 PM | #
do you guys know where dumbledores brother is and who he is and where he is found in the fourth book
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:13 PM | #
yeah me too but i am trying to find where he is in the fourth book and what do you think about dumbledor and fawkes?
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:17 PM | #
i heard things that he might be an animagus as fawkes but i dont think so. though harry thinks he sees a pheonix rise from the grave while the white smoke is up
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:20 PM | #
what do u think about the whole talking through a painting afterr you die. first of all why didnt anyone bother to ask dumbledore through the painting what happened. second of all why harry’s parents didnt get a painting after they died so they could speak to harry
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:26 PM | #
you probably have to paint the person while they are alive so they can get the features right naturally since dumbledore was the headmaster he would be get a painting to go in the office
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:30 PM | #
in the fifth book it tells you where the locket horcrux is
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:31 PM | #
where is the pheonix rising from the grave part
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:33 PM | #
no his painting appeared only after his supposed death. like it was ab automatic thing. even so your saying that only if u go out of ur way to get ur self a painting could u talk to ppl from ur grave. why wouldnt everyone do it. especially the potters who knew that voldermort was coming after them. it just doesnt make sense.
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:33 PM | #
in the fifth book on page 116 and i quote “also a locket than none of them can open”
isnt the pheonix rising from dumbledor
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:34 PM | #
There are a lot of really good theories here and here is what I think.
The guy who said Dumbledore is Harry’s or Ron’s future needs major brain surgery. Because if you remember from the third book when Hermionie is talking about the time turner she says what if you saw yourself? Well Harry or Ron would know if it was either of them. I agree to the theory that Hermionie is Harry’s sister…Because she is always really bossy to Harry like an older sister/brother but she is only does the same to Ron so it will not look weird.And also in the second book when Hermionie and Penelope Clearwater are petrified Professor McGonnagal comes to Harry and says”you had better some with me Potter’ because Harry is Hermionie’s brother but then when she sees Ron she says “You’d better come to Weasly” And also in the third book when they are fighting the boggart for the first time Lupin doesn’t let Harry fight the boggart because he is afraid that it will take the shape of Lord Voldermort but he also doesn’t let Hermionie fight the boggart. Why? Mybe she told him that her worst fear was something to do with her real parent, the Potters, and if Harry saw that maybe he would figure out that she was his sister… Here are my theories,
Trevor is really Regelus. He is still a Death Eater and Voldermort just helped him become an Animagi and then sent him into hiding at Neville’s house because he knew that Neville was going to Hogwarts. So when ever Neville loses Trevor I think Regelus is going around Hogwarts searching for a relic of Ravenclaw’s for Voldermort to make a Horcrux…
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:35 PM | #
who was the one who asked me about the “mind blowing speculations” earlie i can’t find it but i saw it
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:36 PM | #
page 645 (like 8 pages from the end the paragraph starts with then several ppl screamed
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:38 PM | #
I found the book really interesting. I still think that the scene where Dumbledore begs Snape for help was prepared by them (maybe i´m still in denyal). I also think that maybe Dumbledore is in fact dead (although that phoenix thing that happened in his funeral has something behind it), but Snape´s still on the good side (J.K Rowling hasn´t still explained very well why Dumbledore did trust Snape).
Harry´s last conversation with Ginny was too Hollywood for me…. i mean…. why does every hero has to separate from those ones he loves….. a little Spiderman for my taste.
About Regulus? i think it clicks, but is also a little obvious….. Mrs Rowling has always found the way to shock us out of our minds with te “obvious” information.
It´s a really good book, to end this rumble of random words, that is a really good way to wait for the next one.
Congratulations Mrs Rowling (by the way, it´s impossible to do the expert minesweeper in that time).
p.s: please forgive my english. It´s not my first language.
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:38 PM | #
hey dumbledore’s man. did u get the idea about trevor from me? or that u believe that is true what i said
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:41 PM | #
I dont think regulus is a eater anymore cause it says he became a eater and realized he didnt want to be one anymore so he want after horcruxes which explaisn RAB
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:42 PM | #
zelph, did u read the binary moon thing or anyone else
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:46 PM | #
o ya and everybody, i don’t live in kansas and i’m not from kansas
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:49 PM | #
who thinks they can guess where james and lily worked
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:51 PM | #
i think that lily and jemes worked at the ministry, but not as aurors. i think they worked to try to find a way to block the killing curse avada kedavra
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:53 PM | #
i also believe that avada kedavra was one of the first spells jkr invented because it sounds alot like the old abra kabara
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:55 PM | #
it would be really cool if they quick stop managers
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:57 PM | #
anybody????o ya and look at post #53 i thonk it is. whoever sir lord aaron is he’s a butthole…………and the weird thing is my name is aaron
Posted on August 16, 2005 04:57 PM | #
hey is anybody here other than jay, at least jay is talking
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:00 PM | #
well what jobs did the potters have. im guessing they were the last of the pizza delivery men because noone has pizza anymore
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:01 PM | #
well ive been guessing. so what did the potters do for a job. im gonna say for sre not a magician or a vantriliquist
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:13 PM | #
umm maybe the potters were unspeakables. and they heard about the prophecy so they had as many kids as they could. like how kansas said. idk
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:52 PM | #
CyberJohn is here! i was on Zelph’s a while ago
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:55 PM | #
i also think that peter pettigrew’s silver hand will play a role in the death of remus lupin
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:56 PM | #
i was commenting on my friends name a while ago. his name was zelph
Posted on August 16, 2005 05:59 PM | #
so kansas, where did you find out that wormtails hand will help kill LUpin??
dead
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:03 PM | #
unspeakables are the people in the ministry of magic that work in the department of mysteries.
where the crap is kansas?
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:09 PM | #
-isn’t it like, the only way to kill a werewolf has to do with silver i don’t know it exactly
-i also think that hagrid will die in book seven(at the beginning)because when somebody asked robby coltrane(hagrid’s actor)if he signed for all seven movies he gave a ‘sort of’ answer
-petunia will stard exhibiting magical tendancies.she may be a squib.her parents may have been wizards but hid their abilities to protect their family from voldemort
-why has snape singled out harry and neville for verbal abuse
-something huge will be revealed about lily potter in book seven
-on The Connection a kid asked jkr if snape would fall in love in book seven. jk appeared to have started to say yes, but then stopped. she said she was extremely stunned by the question and we would find y in book seven
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:10 PM | #
no jay unspeakables are not the people who give you your food in your car while wearing rollerblades at an old fationed diner.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:12 PM | #
some people are saying that piers polkiss can speak parstletongue beacause he could “understand” harry talking to the snake at the zoo in book one
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:15 PM | #
Confirmed information by JK Rowling:
* Rowling has revealed that she has already written the last chapter of this book, although she admitted she would probably have to change some of it. It will reveal what happens to the surviving characters after they leave Hogwarts.
* The last word in the series is currently ‘scar’, though Rowling has admitted that it might change as she finishes the novel.
* Book 7 is almost like part two of the sixth book, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and may thus provide a direct continuation of the plot of that book.
* The Potters’ profession is important to the plot, and there will be a huge revelation about Lily Potter.
* Harry has his mother’s eyes is important to the plot.
* There will be no scene in which Harry or anyone else is playing Quidditch.
* Rita Skeeter will appear again, as will Dolores Umbridge.
* Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth will probably appear (Rowling has confirmed that he’s the barman of Hog’s Head) and more about Dumbledore’s background will be revealed.
* We will find out exactly why Rowling had Sirius killed. The magical mirrors that Sirius gave Harry will appear again.
* We will find out what exactly Dudley saw when he encountered the dementors.
* We will learn about the correspondence between Professor Dumbledore and Petunia Dursley before the death of Harry’s parents.
* More about Harry’s scar will be revealed.
* The fact that Voldemort now has Harry’s blood in him will be significant.
* The choice between what’s right and what’s easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry’s last 2 years at Hogwarts.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:18 PM | #
also, peter pettigrew i am most certain owes harry his life because harry saved him in book three
-snape may owe harry his life as well because james saved him but snape never saved james in return
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Posted on August 16, 2005 06:18 PM | #
i just thought of something, didn’t dumbledore save the whole malfoy family especially draco?
this could be a big twist in book seven…
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:23 PM | #
hey easter. i need somebody to discoss my theory. it starts at like 163…you don’t have to read it. just a thought. something to do while you’re here. not many people are on right now
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:28 PM | #
ohhh of course i remember thinking that wormtail would have to help harry because harry saved his life! i totally forgot. it’s kind of like a jar-jar binks. (that fag frog guy in star wars) and qui-gon-jinn.
but staying on the star wars subject maybe harry will go to the dark side like anakin. i mean harry and anakin are both whiners and they are full of themselves.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:28 PM | #
Yeah kansas i read that while on as zelph and that is what i think might happen. how did you get to that conclusion? i would never have thought of that.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:31 PM | #
i don’t think jk wants anything to do with star-wars. idk y but it doesn’t seem like her
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:32 PM | #
i’ve read all the books like seven times at least except #six, i only read that twice. my books are all marked up with notes and underlines. idk. i’ve always like the hardy boys. maybe it rubbed off on me.
-have u ever thought of this.what if jk is amking like a code out of the chapter title or book titles. it’s really unlikely. but that would be cool, woudn’t it?
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:37 PM | #
u know that stupid rumor about how ron could be dumbledore from the future??
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:39 PM | #
what about that stupid rumor?
i think it’s the gayest thing i’ve ever heard of
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:42 PM | #
ok i’ll get to that rumor, but right after i typed that i thought of something fricken huge, but i’m taking it very calmly, so i don’t have a heart attack or something…. would u like to hear that instead…actually i don’t know if it’s that huge but it may be to some people
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:51 PM | #
WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE IS THIS BIG OR NOT, IDK-• We learn about them in book 5 (thanks to Hagrid) and how that you can only see them if you have seen death. The first time Harry sees them is in book 5 but didn’t he see death at the age of one when his parents died. if so, why can’t he see them in his first year? and then he sees Quirrel die at the end of book 1. does he see them in books 2, 3 or 4? No. unless harry blinked and missed them snuff it (which is very unlikely) that
meansTHESE PEOPLE AREN’T DEAD!!!!!!!!!! The death harry saw to enable him to see thestrals is that of Cedrics.
Posted on August 16, 2005 06:54 PM | #
i think that ron weasley is dumby theory is totally true
Posted on August 16, 2005 07:05 PM | #
kansas are you still there?
i thought of that too about why didn’t he see the thestrals in his first year if he had seen his parents die before? but i didin’t think too much about it
Posted on August 16, 2005 07:50 PM | #
I read Something very interesting in book six o n page 598 after dumbledore died i read He (harry) had to get to Dumbleore and had to catch snape….somehow the two things were linked….He could reverse what happened if he had them both together.
so i was think if harry didnt think that out of desperation why couldnt snape do the same thing in secret?
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:10 PM | #
Yeah Yeah that is totally true. it is a very good speculation
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:23 PM | #
u idiot, isn’t cyberjohn and zelph the same person
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:38 PM | #
no zelph is my pal i was just at his house earlier today
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:42 PM | #
woe wait a min this site must be somewhere in um……what’s after muountain time zone, pacific timezone? when i asked if it was 10:10 where u live(it was really 10:07)it said it was posted at 7:07. it’s 11:45 here, it must be 8:45 there.
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:43 PM | #
o i thought u said u were the same person. where do u live? cuz we must be in different time zones
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:44 PM | #
Utah
So what going on with dumbledore and ron
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:48 PM | #
UTAH im surprised this site doesen’t have like a million more comments
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:48 PM | #
I think the thing about ron being dumbledore was the idea of some loser-butt-sweat-baker that thinks he’s cool
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:51 PM | #
anyway. wanna hear about what i think is just as stupid as the ron/dumby theory, but could make sense. i would need your opinion on it. u there
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:51 PM | #
o so it must be like almost 10:00 p.m. there?
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:53 PM | #
Let’s hear your theory. if it WAS true i would think like Ron saw into the future in divination and saw that harry really was going to die so he decided to go into the future and try to fix it.
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:53 PM | #
it is like 10 here is it like 1 inthe moring there? but anyway who cares i want to hear this thing
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:55 PM | #
1 min look what i just found i don’t know if it’s important…
• What if Hermione really is Harry’s sister? One thing I have wondered about is why Hermione got picked for Gryffindor in the first place. It seems to me that before she met Harry and Ron, she was very cautious. She was reluctant to break any rules for fear that she would lose points for her house.
Gryffindors are supposed to be daring and brave. Why was she pickedfor Gryffindor instead of Ravenclaw, where “those of wit and learning will always find their kind?” Perhaps Hermione has something about her past that she hides also…maybe she is Harry’s sister, and she once met Voldemort?
One thing I noticed though…aren’t you supposed to be 11 years old when you enter Hogwarts? If Hermione was really 10.5 months older than harry, why didn’t she enter Hogwarts the year before Harry? I always thought that Hermione was younger than Harry, considering her birthday is on September first, and that her birthday was on the first of the term. That would make being brother and sister impossible, though, which makes me return to my first point…Why was Hermione chosen for Gryffindor, then?
• Draco Malfoy is OBSESSED with calling Hermione a mudblood every time she blinks. If Harry was one as well, wouldn’t Malfoy be more than happy to extend the well wishings Harry’s way as well? But he doesn’t… Ron is always poor, Hermione the Mudblood, and Harry… just the bane of Malfoy’s existance, apparently. But he never makes a dig on Harry’s bloodline (which is obviously not beneath him to do so.)
Voldemort didn’t want to kill Lily. When he walked in the room, he wanted to kill Harry first. Whatever his reasoning is, instead of just killing Lily upon entering the room, he wasted him time telling her to get away from Harry and letting her get into the position of sacrificing herself for her son. Had she been just a regular old mudblood, would he not have just killed her asap? Ron’s father even said killing Muggles was something of a sport for them… why would he waste his time even paying her any mind?
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:57 PM | #
these aren’t my theory about ron/dumby things. i’ll get to that
Posted on August 16, 2005 08:59 PM | #
these aren’t my theory about ron/dumby things. i’ll get to that…
Are Harry and Voldemort related ?
>Here is my guess : Voldemort has no brother (so Dobby’s answer is true,
>strictly speaking)… but he had a sister. Voldemort’s sister married a
>wizard named Potter. She became the mother of James Potter ! So, if I am
>correct, Voldemort is James’ uncle, and Harry’s great-uncle.
Lord Voldemort a.k.a. Tom Marvolo Riddle is the last descentdant of Salazar
Slytherin through his mother. That means that no other descendants of
Voldemort’s mother exists!There is of course the possibility of a
half-sister with the same father …
>Another hint : when Harry first reads the name “Riddle” in the diary, he
>thinks he has never heard it before… and yet there is something familiar
>about that name : “as though Riddle was a friend he’d had when he was very
>small”. Why ? The expression ” when he was very small ” must refer to the
>period when he was with his parents. Maybe he has heard about “grandmother
>Riddle” during the first year of his life !
Again - the Riddle name comes from Voldemort’s father - any other siblings
born by his mother wouldn’t have that name. Possibly his father had other
children born out of marriage, but giving them the Riddle name would only
be possible, I think, if Tom (Voldemort’s father) acknowledged being the
father of the child.
>Another hint to support this : Mrs Riddle (Voldemort’s mother) hadn’t told
>her husband she was a witch when they got married ; then, WHY did she have
>to tell him later, when she was pregnant?
They were not married. Voldemort’s mother didn’t have the Riddle name. This
is utter nonsense!
>Part 2 : Why did Voldemort want to kill Harry ?
>Let us see. we know Voldemort has killed :
> - his own family (the Riddles),
> - the Potter family (except Harry who survived).
- countless others; especially Muggle, Muggle-born wizards and wizards that
opposed him.
>If Voldemort and James Potter are related (see Part 1 above), all this may
>be the continuation of the same massacre!
Voldemort is the ‘Dark Lord’ - he is presented as the epitome of evil in
the Harry Potter books, and evil is as evil does, and what evil does is
killing. It is a well-established literary tradition that the evil side
engage in mass-murder. Voldemort kills Muggles and Muggle-born wizards for
pleasure (this is parallel to Hitler’s denunciation of everyone who was
short and black-haired … And Rowling is known to have compared Voldemort
to Hitler on numerous occasions) and he kills his opponents because they
dare oppose him. No other explanations are needed (this does not mean that
other explanations aren’t possible).
>My theory is that he has found (or has been taught) a path to immortality,
>something very, very dark indeed, the darkest of the Dark Arts, that
>involves taking the lives of his relatives (including Harry) !
As Harry is a full-blood wizard, Voldemort would at least need some kind of
reason for killing him - especially as we are told that he went
specifically after Harry’s family with the intention of killing Harry and
his father. To tie this up with Voldemort’s quest for immortality is a nice
idea - it doesn’t need the ‘Harry being related to Voldemort’ complication.
>If you are still unconvinced, consider this sentence carefully :
>”Now give me the Stone, unless you want her (Lily) to have died in vain.”
[…]
>So Voldemort’s sentence means :
>” Give me this stone-of-immortality, and I will not kill you “.
No. What it really means is “give me what I want or I’ll kill you” - and
_that_ is Voldemort’s philosophy in a nut shell.
>Part 3 : What exactly is Voldemort’s ” path to immortality ” ?
Ooops - there’s nothing left!
Speculations are fun - but I, for one, prefer them to have at least some
connection to canon.
>Part 4 : What about the Death-Eaters ?
>Why did Voldemort’s followers choose that name “Death-Eaters”?
>What on Earth does it mean?
>Well… the meaning of “Death-Eater” is very close to “Death-Stealer”…
>so I suppose they use that name because they too are intending to become
>immortal, using the same dark magic as their master : Voldemort will be
>the first one, but if he succeeds, his followers will try to follow the
>same path to immortality !
That the Death-Eaters should also pursue immortality - individually or as a
group - is not surprising, and I find it little likely that this should be
the significance of the name (I would honestly find it anti-climactic).
>Part 5 : Are there other descendants of Voldemort’s father ?
>
>This last part is probably the most speculative and uncertain of all !
That says a lot ;)
>So, I think it is at least a possibility that Harry might have a brother
>or sister, who the Potters would have hiden as soon as he or she was born,
>and who would have lived with adoptive parents ever since.
That would not be in line with the character of Harry’s parents as it has
been described.
>I know… supposing that Hermione is Harry’s sister would be very
>Star-Wars-like. and yet, why not ?
Honestly? Because I would find it revolting!
>Could Hermione be Harry’s sister ? Is it even possible ? We know she was
>born in September, and Harry was born in July. It seems logical to suppose
>that Hermione is 10 months older than Harry rather than 2 months younger
Not when they are known (PoA) to have been the same age in June!
So - it is impossible for Harry and Hermione to have the same mother, but
hey! That shouldn’t necessarily stop you, should it? James was a nice guy -
maybe he found someone else, who would have his other child (a bit before
he knew that Voldemort was after him, but who cares?) Why not a dozen
siblings to Harry - all to different mothers?
>The Harry-Hermione relation is very different : they seem somehow
>”naturally”, almost instinctively close to each other. Quite often, each
>of them seems to be knowing what the other has in mind.
When I read stuff like this, I can’t help wondering if the author of it
hasn’t had such a friendship as a child. I assure you that this is
perfectly normal for good friends, and that it even exists in boy-girl
friendships with no other implications. This doesn’t need any further
explanation. In the event that two siblings meet without knowing that they
are related, their reactions towards each other are different from siblings
who have lived together; such two siblings might quickly develop a deep
friendship, but it is still just a friendship! And remember that Harry
initially found Hermione just as insufferable as everyone else.
>- A minor physical resemblance : they are both unable to comb their hair.
Didn’t you read chapter 23 ‘The Yule Ball’ in Goblet of Fire?
Hermione is perfectly able to comb her hair - she just doesn’t bother normally.
>- At the beginning of book 1, before Harry and Hermione become friends,
>before they even really know each other, Hermione’s behaviour is a bit
>excessive : she keeps interfering in Harry’s affairs, much more than in
>anyone else’s affairs (even Ron’s):
Harry is celebrity. Already in the train in PS she says “I know all about
you, of course …” - How do you think Daniel Radcliffe is being treated by
the class busybody when he gets back to school? Try to learn a bit about
your subject before making assumptions!
The rest of this is - as the author admits - more than highly speculative.
I am sorry, but I don’t have much patience with people who try to make
their facts fit their fancies! I had better stop now, before I get unpleasant.
Let’s see …
Voldemort’s desire to kill Harry linked to his pursuit of immortality.
Made me think of the possibility of any live descendants of Voldemort’s
father (though I can’t see what good this’d do, nor do I see why they
didn’t stop forth as heirs when the Riddle family was killed).
–
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:00 PM | #
About Hermione’s house i think she probably asked to be put in Gryffindor just like harry did because she might have known that they were related and she might have assumed harry to be in gryfindor because his (or Their) parents were there too.
I think the Malfoy thing is irrevilant because he doesen’t know they are related. but overall pretty good theory
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:02 PM | #
OK TELL ME. what if dumbledore is harry himself from the future. what do u think. i have hints to back it up but it’s probably not true…
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:02 PM | #
and she might not be like that cause dumbledore in book five told petunia remembor you last
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:03 PM | #
in the fourth book hermione used magic to control her hair so harry probabl y could too
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:14 PM | #
i doubt that dumbledore is somone in the future. but if Voldemort and hermione were related to harry wouldn’t harry have seen them in the mirror of erised? i also doubt that james potter was a polygamist. trust me i live in Utah, the very, very, very, very, very, EMPHASIS on very few polygamists there are around here are weirdos (true aunt ptunia called harry’s parents weird but nothing are as weird and stupid as polygamists)
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:15 PM | #
hermione used like a few bottles of hair potion and she said it wasn’t worth it to do it every day to straiten her hair every day
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:20 PM | #
ok
-when dumbledore is mentioned at any time in any of the books, the observation is always made about his crooked nose, as if it had been broken several times. in book six alone harry has his nose broken twice. granted the first was repaired by madam pomfrey, but the second time when he is flattened by the death eaters while in pursuit of snape no mention is made about it being repaired beyond recodnition.
-voldemort always fears dumbledore above all others, but harry was the one who destroyed him as a child. dumbledore has allowed alot to happen badly to harry,but he couldn’t have interfeared because the bad things were necessary for the bad things to unfold. he could not interfere with history, but he could play the role that dumbledore is intended to play.
-dumbledore immobilized harry at the end of book six. why did he prevent harry from protecting him?perhaps dumbledore’s death, while tragic, was intended to happen to strengthen harry, but also give him insight on how he was going to die. book seven is supposed to complete the saga withough any need of prequel or sequel. does that meen harry will die, or does it mean that harry is dumbledore and the rest of his life will be chronicled in books 1-6. most of dumbledore’s life is laid out in book 2 and in book six through the pensieve…
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:27 PM | #
What do you guys think will happen to viktor Crum?
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:27 PM | #
i still dont think harry and dumbledore are the same person because it is first of all against wizarding law to tamper with time and second of all you are not allowed to see yourself so it could put harry into shock
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:30 PM | #
the really long one above wasn’t my theory someone gave that to me so i sent it on
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:31 PM | #
like on back to the future when jennifer saw her self when she was older and passed out
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:31 PM | #
the really long one above wasn’t my theory someone gave that to me so i sent it on(the one about which house hermione should be in and stuff)
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:32 PM | #
the harry dumbledore thing was just another theory, nothing big
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:34 PM | #
viktor……im not sure. he may join the order. but i just can’t seem to see viktor doing anything important. Dumbledore if anyones future could be Neville i seem to remember Neville breaking his nose. but what about that scar dd claims to have above his knee that is a perfect map of the london underground. or maybe dd is zacharias smith who has a lopsided nose. but i still dont think dd is anybody but himself
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:34 PM | #
ya, but i seriously think that trvor the toad is somebody, regulous, i’m almost sure
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:36 PM | #
and harry being dumbledore doesnt xplain the scar and then if dumbledore/harry lives that long it seems that voldemort was destroyed then why would dumbledore have to come back i just dont think it is likeley
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:37 PM | #
well i’ll talk to u guy tomorrow then? it’s like 1:00 A.M. here……….cya bye
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:38 PM | #
i dont think it is a eater maybe an auror to protect harry or neville? but is trevor ever found by harry in any of the books
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:38 PM | #
i think that trevor really is some animagus and it is really possible to be regelus because he probably saw sirius transform and probably figured out how to transform.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:38 PM | #
well i’ll talk to u guy tomorrow then? it’s like 1:00 A.M. here……….cya bye…i’ll try to find more clues and crap
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:39 PM | #
trevor the toad is probably regulous in my opinion, regulous was on a mission to find and destroy all of the horcruxes. trevor always seems to get away from neville and that toad must be getting pretty old for a toad, he’s searching for something in the catle
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:43 PM | #
trevor the toad is probably regulous in my opinion, regulous was on a mission to find and destroy all of the horcruxes. trevor always seems to get away from neville and that toad must be getting pretty old for a toad, he’s searching for something in the catle…..cya tomorrow
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:43 PM | #
Isnt it interesting how the locket horcrux is mentioned in the fith book
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:44 PM | #
the only reason i think trevor could be an animagus is because he is always getting away from neville and neville cant keep track of him
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:49 PM | #
Yeah that’s right but again Neville is pretty retarded but………………he is flippin cool.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:50 PM | #
I think that later in life after James and Lily got out of Hogwarts, Jamesand Snape became friends. And it never says what Snape did before he became a Death Eater. Maybe he workedwith Lily and James to find a defense to Avada Kedavra. So maybe before James and Lily died they found a cure but didn’t find out how to mak duplicates of it.So they died. But later on Snape found out how to duplicate it. So that was the potion in the basin in the cave! So maybe it sends the drinker(afer Avada Kedavra is used on them) into a type of sleep that can only be reversed by the Draught of Living Death or some potion mentioned in the sixth book. What about that theory?
I think that Hermionie is Harry’s siter. She always seems very caring for Harry, and Ron too to some extent but more towards Harry. Until reading all this always thought it was just because she was a good person or something like that. I think JK might make it Star Wars like. About the house Gryffindor thing I think that Hermionie is really Harry’s sister BUT when James and Lily had HErmionie they gave her away to James’s cousin or something who are wizards but hide their powers for some reason. These people are the Grangers. And when the Grangers were at school they were in Ravenclaw. So that explains why Hermionie is so smart but the blood in her is still Gryffindor so that is why she is still in Gryffindor.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:52 PM | #
Hey guys who was pretending to be me and saying that mrs figg will send an army of cats on death eaters?
maybe it was me and im goin crazy.
i suck
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:53 PM | #
what do you guys think the connection is with petunia and dumbledore do you think it possible that harry is pure really and petunia is a squib in hiding?
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:54 PM | #
it was a good thought mr guy but i dont think that is mrs figg is dumbledore or the cat thing
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:56 PM | #
hahahahahahaha that mrguy! anyway dumbledores man has a pretty good theory it builds on my theory that dudmbledore had already been to the cave. im such a nerd
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:56 PM | #
I don’t think there is any ‘connection’ between Petunia and Dumbledore but I think they have been in cntact since James and Lily died. I think that Petunia is a witch in hiding. The reason she acts like she despises them is so she can act more Muggle like.
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:58 PM | #
i dont think that the grangers are related to the potters because i think they are muggles i think that she was adopted by muggles and dumbledore told her when she got to school
Posted on August 16, 2005 09:58 PM | #
Zelph, that is an idea too. Maybe the Potters pulled a Dumbledore on the Grangers and left Hermionie on their door ste. But without the letter.
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:00 PM | #
I think the connection is something like voldemort or someone was trying to kill petunia and dumbledore made it look like she is like he offered to draco because after all why would she care if people knew she was a squib and what not i think she just didnt want to dieso they made a deal dumbledore would protect her and she keeps harry
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:01 PM | #
ptenia being a witch makes sense bacause she knew what dementors were (book5) and i don’t think she really heard them from James
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:01 PM | #
that could happen but dont you think the grangers would be like what is going on or wonder why she was there if they did i am sure that the grangers knwe something
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:02 PM | #
i agree with cyber john she is a witch or a squib
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:04 PM | #
Yes I agree, I dont even think that Petunia even ever saw James, forget about hearing him talk. But I do not think Petunia would even be wanted to be known as a Squib. And I also think Dumbledore would place what might be the future of the wizarding world(Harry) on a deal> I think tha he made Petunia make an Unbreakable Vow
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:04 PM | #
what do you guys think dudley saw when he saw the dementers do you think he saw voldemort or somthing
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:07 PM | #
I think Dudley is a wizard and really saw Dementors. Only Dudley doesn’t know he is wizard!I think that Petunia gives Ickle Duddykins a potion that subdues his magical powers
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:09 PM | #
maybe petunia had something to do with the prophecy i mean professor trewlawny wrote it honestly who wouldve known
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:09 PM | #
i always wondered what he saw. some might think dudley goes to a wizard school in a different countrey. or maybe he goes through harry’s books and try to learn magic. that might be a little stupid and i doubt that’s how it is
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:11 PM | #
Confirmed information by JK Rowling:
* Rowling has revealed that she has already written the last chapter of this book, although she admitted she would probably have to change some of it. It will reveal what happens to the surviving characters after they leave Hogwarts.
* The last word in the series is currently ‘scar’, though Rowling has admitted that it might change as she finishes the novel.
* Book 7 is almost like part two of the sixth book, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and may thus provide a direct continuation of the plot of that book.
* The Potters’ profession is important to the plot, and there will be a huge revelation about Lily Potter.
* Harry has his mother’s eyes is important to the plot.
* There will be no scene in which Harry or anyone else is playing Quidditch.
* Rita Skeeter will appear again, as will Dolores Umbridge.
* Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth will probably appear (Rowling has confirmed that he’s the barman of Hog’s Head) and more about Dumbledore’s background will be revealed.
* We will find out exactly why Rowling had Sirius killed. The magical mirrors that Sirius gave Harry will appear again.
* We will find out what exactly Dudley saw when he encountered the dementors.
* We will learn about the correspondence between Professor Dumbledore and Petunia Dursley before the death of Harry’s parents.
* More about Harry’s scar will be revealed.
* The fact that Voldemort now has Harry’s blood in him will be significant.
EAster said this earleir do you think he is full of it
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:12 PM | #
why would harry having his mothers eyes be important for the plot does that prove he is related to some one or what
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:13 PM | #
No I think that JK is just lying about a few of those. Plus is the bartender is Aberforth Dumbledore then why does he call himself Will Widdershins? That is comepletely pointless!
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:16 PM | #
where does it say that that is his name will widdershins
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:17 PM | #
the thing about voldemort now having harry’s blood maybe now somone only with that blood can kill voldemort now. so voldemort probably thinks that harry doesen’t have it in him to kill him cuz harry sucks at wizardry pretty much. but if hermione is related to harry maybe they will both help kill voldemort or something. this is getting really weird
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:18 PM | #
In the fifth book Willy Widdershins was causing trouble with the toilets. And then Sirius says the bartender Willy Widdershins…
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:20 PM | #
i think with that part with harrys i that it makes them even more like pushed together or what not cause after voldemort got harrys harrys scar hurt more
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:21 PM | #
no if you read the chapter the hogs head in 5 it describes a man at the bar wrapped in bandaages and later in the book prof. umbrige told harry that was willy widdershins and he was eavesdropping on them.
also more proof aberforth is the bartender his description is a tall man with long grey hair and beard and he looked kinda familliar to harry. also albus mentioned aberforth somewhere in #4 about aberforth putting some charms on goats and in the hog’s head harry thought it smelle like goat a little but the goat thing might be irrevilant
the bar tender is also at albus’ funeral
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:23 PM | #
where does it say his name is will widdershins
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:23 PM | #
in the centar and the sneak in #5 i think. umbridge says it
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:25 PM | #
In the fifth book when Harry Ron and Hermionie are talking to Sirius in the fire…”That was Dung!” Ron exclaimed, ” Why didn’t he greet us?”
“Mundugus was banned from the Hog’s Head 20 years ago” replied Sirius,”and Willy Widdershins has a really good memory”….
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:27 PM | #
Maybe willy widdershins is a frequent customer at hogshead and mundungus offended him and since willy is always at the bar mundungus has to disguise
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:30 PM | #
sirius never said willy diddeshins he just said that barman’s got a long memory.its on page370 you can look you self
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:33 PM | #
i just know aberforth is the barman too much proof.
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:34 PM | #
it says the people that were at the funeral it says and people harry only knew by sight such as the barman of hogshead maybe he goes by will so voldemort wont attack him and get stuff out of him about dumbledore. voldemort shows no sighn of knowing dumbledore has a brother so i bet that is who it is why else would he be at the funeral dumbledore (as far as i know didnt go to hogshead very often unless he did in secret to see his brother which is likely
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:37 PM | #
i bet it is abarforth that way when they had D.A meetings they could keep people out that is why the teachers(in the order) went to talk in book three there cause abarforth could keep the eaters out
Posted on August 16, 2005 10:41 PM | #
guys u noe how i type im wasnt really ME from the 4 post 99-103 i tink above.now it is that person is a retard
Posted on August 17, 2005 02:56 AM | #
i like the theory of hermione being harrys sister but we might be stretching it. after all why would she or anyone else hide something like that. there is no reason not to tell them they are brother and sister especially if by not knowing they “hook up” and then harry will have spend all his time at a psychiatrist rather than killing voldermort.
another problem is that every time hermione is called a mudblood she gets really affended. if she knew they werent her real parents she wouldnt care so much. and dont say shes faking it to make it seem like they are her real parents.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:35 AM | #
jay- like i said earlier there may be a secret keeper charm that was performed
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:56 AM | #
it also says that willy is really tall, doesn’t it
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:04 AM | #
“the barman sidled toward them out of a back room. he was a grumpy-looking old man with a great deal of long gray hair and beard. he was tall and thin and looked vaguely familiar to harry.”
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:16 AM | #
Harry couldn’t see the Threstrals in book 1 because he never did see his parents die. He was in his crib, or w/e. Quirell died after Harry was unconcious. Tom Riddle was only a memory. Basilisk was a snake, not a human. JK Rowling stated that Harry didn’t see them after Cedric died because she didn’t want to bring up a new mystery at the end of the book, therefore he did in the fifth book after he had had time to realise that Cedric was dead, it takes time to cope.
JK Rowling was laughing when people were saying that Dumbledore is Harry/Ron from the future. It is very untrue. you can go to www.jkrowling.com and look up the rumours and rubbish stuff commenting on what people have been saying. Also, you can go to wikipedia and search for different Harry Potter books and characters and it will give a detailed outline of each along with previously unknown facts about the characters because it wasn’t in the books, but most of it JK has hence confirmed and therefore it is a good thing to go and look at.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:20 AM | #
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possessions…..
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this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
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and then i realise….
she loves me not….
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life’s not fair….
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take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
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life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
take my money…..
take my possessions…..
only obsession….
i don’t need that shit….
money…..
possessions…..
obsessions…..
cut my life into pieces…
this is my last resort….
suffocation….
no breathing….
don’t give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding….
When i look into your eyes…
look into my eyes…..
and then i realise….
she loves me not….
she loves me not….
life’s not fair….
life’s not faaaaiirrrrrrr…..
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:24 AM | #
ok mr. guy was obviously dropped on his head numerous times as a child
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:32 AM | #
• Immediately when Harry and Dumbledore were discussing the existence of another Horcrux, one previously owned by Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, I saw that Dumbledore had made a mistake. He pointed to the sword Harry had found in book 2, indicating that the “last remaining relic of Gryffindor’s” was safe and therefore not a Horcrux, implying that their efforts would probably be better put to use in looking for some artifact of Ravenclaw’s or some as-yet undiscovered Gryffindor treasure. What he failed to realize was that Gryffindor had in fact left behind another artifact, one which he and Harry were both quite familiar with – the Sorting Hat! It has been mentioned on various occasions that the Sorting Hat once belonged to Gryffindor, and if Dumbledore’s assumptions were correct, that Voldemort really did choose his Horcruxes based on their connection to the Hogwarts legacy, then the Sorting Hat seems the perfect choice. It is also one of the last places anyone would think to look – often the best hiding places are the ones that are not hidden. As soon as I thought of it, though, I thought that surely if it was a Horcrux, then Dumbledore would have detected it. Knowing J.K. Rowling’s style, though, I know that she thinks of everything, therefore she must have remembered that the Sorting Hat belonged to Gryffindor, making any oversight on Dumbledore’s part when pointing things out a potentially significant clue. Wow, try to count the commas in that sentence. I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling the Sorting Hat will probably play a role of some significance in the next book. Seeing as how the Sorting Hat was one of the first magical objects he encountered upon entering Hogwarts his first year, it would be fitting if that were also the last Horcrux he were to destroy in his final year (providing he even returns to Hogwarts, or that the school is open at all) (Ashleigh)
• Although the Sorting Hat may be a Horcruxe I seriously doubt it because when Dumbledore put on Guant’s ring it damaged his hand. All the kids that put the hat on would have some kind of brain damage and the characters seem fine. The hat says that Gryffindor took it off his head and the founders put brains in the hat making it able to talk and think.( Meg )
• Harry Potter is Voldy’s Gryffindor Horcruxe. All this non-sense about “transference of power” and what not… Rowling has said that we get clues as to HP6 & 7 with Chamber of Secrets… what were some of the things? well, we learn Harry is a “true” Gryffindor… ok. We know that Tom Riddle even noticed how “they even look alike”… ok… the sorting hat was confused a bit in HPSS, but stood its ground in CoS…ok… and, we also know now that in order to create the Horcruxe, you have to kill someone, which breaks off your soul and then you capture it and place it somewhere. Ok…. now, what happened before Harry was attacked as a child? Voldy killed his mother. Ok. So, the spell is complete… BUT the murder was a sacrifice from love… so that’s what binded the soul to the Horcrux, in this case Harry… THIS is why he has so many similiarities to Voldy… it’s not Quirrel who couldn’t stand to be touched by Harry, but Vldy… THIS is why Harry and Voldy were at a standstill during GoF… THIS is why Voldy couldn’t possess Harry for long in OoP… THIS is why they were connected for so long… so either Harry IS the Horcruxe, or his lightning scar is (remember reference to lightning in Book 6??)… hence Dumbledore’s initial comment in HPSS “curse marks can come in handy”… Dumbley also said “as long as the Horcruxe is out there, Voldy is in essence immortal…?? if that’s the case, then the prophecy might not mean Harry has to kill Voldy… rather, Harry has to kill Voldy AND then make the ULTIMATE sacrifice, much like his mother and father did. My ultimate prediction, then, is Harry will kill Voldy and then himself. (Oh, and he will forgive Snape)
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:36 AM | #
I think that HArry can’t be a Horcrux. I mean think about it, he is called Harry Potter,the boy who lived, NOT Harry Potter the boy who does by the end of the series! So it is very, very unlikely that Harry is a Horcrux. BUT here is another theory which I like much more, that is kinda saying that a part of Harry is a Horcrux….
Harry SCAR is a Horcrux, after he battles Voldermort he finds a way to transfer the Scar out of him and destroy it. So then he doesn’t have a scar and Voldermort is dead!
Posted on August 17, 2005 11:00 AM | #
hey dumby’s man do u think the harry hermione is even theory worthy
Posted on August 17, 2005 11:17 AM | #
i think something big is going to be revealed about luna lovegood in book seven. her charactor has been getting bigger and bigger as the story goes on. maybe she was adopted or something?
Posted on August 17, 2005 11:22 AM | #
Maybe Luna is harrys sister mrguy just so you know i am not a retard
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:13 PM | #
that would be weird if luna was harrys sister and it doesnt seem likely i think she will end up with neville cause they are both awesome but weird and they both always wanted D.A meetings maybe to see each other?
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:22 PM | #
maybe we all should write our paragraphs like harry says
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:32 PM | #
Kansas: ya I actually sipport te HArry being Hermionie’s bother and I have commented on it in my previous posts… Look at them if you want. I don’t think HArry is related to Luna…
Posted on August 17, 2005 12:52 PM | #
Dumbledore is not dead, number one:
What do you think snape and dumbledore were arguing about, you know the thing that hagrid overheard.
2:When snape used the unforgivable curse dumbledore flew up in the air. usually you just fall to the ground. I think dumbledore had ordered snape to give a spell he would say in his mind, cos he can do that. So he pretended to used avada… but used something else and the death eaters believed he was dead.
3:at the funeral noone uses any magic to put the body in flames it is clearly dumbledores doing, wink wink nudge nudge.
4:When dumbledore was saying please severus….. please he was telling snape to do a spell as snape was hesitating because he didn’t want to hurt dumbledore.What do you say to that!!!!!!!!
5.There is no way harry will be able to get the horcruxes by himself. How can he kill voldermort. What’s he gonna do? Make him levitate!
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:16 PM | #
Give me facts against me to prove dumbledore is dead. Also visit www.dumbleisnotdead.com and i think you will be truly stumped. Good day sir!
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:19 PM | #
also if dumbledore really fell the top of the tower after he got killed he would have broken like every bone in his body. he might’ve used the spell he used on harry when harry was falling in book 3 during quiditch.also jack, a guy named ward had a similar idea on post #7. did u get the idea from that?
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:42 PM | #
also, i have a feeling harry might have to enter the chamber of secrets in book seven, maybe to search for a horcrux or something of the sort. i mean it was created by salazar slytherin, and it did seem pretty big in book two, maybe when tom riddle opened it 50 years previously he kept things there. could be anything. or maybe-probably- there are more hidden secrets of the castle, maybe more secret passage ways that moony, wormtail, padfoot, and prongs didn’t locate, or put on the map.
Posted on August 17, 2005 01:48 PM | #
i read the the dumbledoreisnotdead.com and i believed it. couldn’t that potion dumbledore took from the stone basin in the cave really be draught of the living death and dumbledore already knew the real horcrux was taken? he just showed harry what it would be like to retrieve horcruxes if dumby and harry were split up or something
Posted on August 17, 2005 02:03 PM | #
Kansas, just to inform you I was originally Harry bu then thought of Dumbledore’s man Through and Through so I changed my name to that BUT anyway I still think we can all make our own story through e mails and this…I thoughroughly support the fact that Dumbledore isn’t dead. You know I think that JK is infiltrating all these sights with rumors and putting facts from the seventh book out… Like that one person who was talking with someone else on some website and then the person said I am not JK Rowling and disappeared , maybe that WAS JK! Because she might want to find out some rumors and make changes to the book!
Posted on August 17, 2005 02:38 PM | #
snape always believed that there was a potion”..that could put a stopper in death.”
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:37 PM | #
snape always believed that there was a potion”..that could put a stopper in death.” book one
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:37 PM | #
yes maybe dumby’s man, but why would she ask me if this was all guesswork then. cuz she was afraid that i was on the right track?
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:41 PM | #
did anyone ever wonder what the reason was for hagrid’s 24 hour absense after voldemort’s attack on lily and james? i have an idea
Posted on August 17, 2005 03:47 PM | #
did anyone ever wonder what the reason was for hagrid’s 24 hour absense after voldemort’s attack on lily and james? i have an idea
Posted on August 17, 2005 04:19 PM | #
hello is anyone there???
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:09 PM | #
First, I think RAB is who everyone else thinks it is, Regules Black. although there are some good points that the connection maybe on purpose so that no one expects the real RAB. I dunno, just some thoughts
Secondly, about the horcruxes. I don’t think harry is one for Voldemort.
Thirdly, I don’t think Snape killed Dumbledore. Dumbledore knew malfoy would be killed if he didn’t kill him, so to save one of his students (cuz that’s just the way dumbledore is) he faked his own death. Dumbledore was never afraid of death, and it’s the change in character when Snape came and pointed his wand at Dumbledore, he got a worried expression (maybe pleading with snape to do the spell) that makes me think it was planned. But… IF dumbledore IS in fact dead, could he have a horcruxe? (which would make him not dead anyways) But in the 1st book, it did state the Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald.. so could that mean he killed him? And if he does, could it be harry? harry felt waves of happiness at the funeral, and maybe it’s just part of Dumbledore, since he was always happy. Just my thoughts, i’d be interested to see what everyone thinks of these.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:25 PM | #
hey liza, read 163-188 and tell me what u think……..if u want to, but i think you’ll find it interesting
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:37 PM | #
tell me what u think about it…..also there’s some pretty interesting stuff at www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:39 PM | #
wow
those are quite the theories
hermione and harry siblings… hmm, i think you might be onto someting, but it could be a little fetched. and harry being from voldemort’s blood line could be a high possibility. i never really thought about it.
Posted on August 17, 2005 05:53 PM | #
Yes some are the theories are pretty far-fetched but still if you read all of the suggestions they actually make A LOT of snese!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:06 PM | #
true i agree, after i’ve just finished reading more and more of the posts. but don;t you ever wonder if there is nothing behind hermione and harry.. maybe they are just friends, and that’s it. i don’t think there are theories for everything, yet the justification that’s used for the sibling theory is quite good, and makes sense.
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:08 PM | #
the theories all could be true even if there is no justification fr them!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:14 PM | #
i think when the fire lit dumbledore’s tomb.. that’s when he booked it and apparated
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:16 PM | #
“How may timesdo I have to tell you? You cannot apparate or Disapparate in side Hogwarts or on the grouds” Hermionie Granger, EVERY SINGLE BOOK OF HARRY POTTER!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:18 PM | #
also nobody has answered my question from earlier.
-where was hagrid on his 24 hour absense after james and lily were attacked. he was supposed to be bringing harry to the dursley’s, but what else was he doing???bbl
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:18 PM | #
Hagrid had no 24 hour absence after JAmes and Lily’s deaths! Where did you get that crap from???
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:21 PM | #
k well then he didn’t apparate.. but i still think he booked it somehow
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:23 PM | #
what did he do then???
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:24 PM | #
and if he did in fact die.. wut do u think about harry being dumbledore’s horcruxE?
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:25 PM | #
that is comeplete crap!!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:27 PM | #
well then what other theories do YOU have, cuz obviously mine are “complete crap”
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:29 PM | #
well obviously they are look them!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:31 PM | #
I am just posting to state that R.A.B. is more than likely to be Regulus Black because Rowling stated she will not be introducing any new major characters to book 7, and I say the person who took the horcruxe would be very important.
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:42 PM | #
No that is complete balderdash! A horcrux is an EVIL thing! Dumbledore is good
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:45 PM | #
but i still am wondering what people think about Dumbledore having a horcruxe even if he’s not dead
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:45 PM | #
He will mot have a Horcrux! THEY ARE EVIL!
Posted on August 17, 2005 06:50 PM | #
I doubt Albus would have a hrocruxe, whether he was planning to die or not. Albus would not do such a thing. If you noticed, everytime Tom made a horcruxe, he lost some of his vitality, whereas Albus still seems perfectly fine, physically.
I think Albus was either reborn from his ashes, Fawkes saved him somehow, or the thing he drank was the “Draught of Living Death.” The only problem with the “Draught of Living Death” theory is that it is supposed to be pink: “The effect was immediate. The potion turned palest pink.” (pg 181 UK edition), but the potion with the locket is green: “The basin was full of an emerald liquid emitting that phosphorescent glow.” (pg 530 UK edition)
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:21 PM | #
couldn’t they make the draught magically turn green from pink? like food coloring. and who thinks the death eaters took Florean Fortescue (ice cream parlor owner) because he was helping dumbledore in some way. in book 3 it said he knew a lot about witch burnings. maybe he figured how to reborn from ashes.
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:49 PM | #
anyone reading this?
“anyone? anyone?…….Buhler, Buhler
Posted on August 17, 2005 07:57 PM | #
HEY! if anyone is on right now just tell me!
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:05 PM | #
oh well i geuss no one is listening. but i did have some really cool idea’s that make sense. but why waste my time if no one is reading? oh well see ya guys
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:12 PM | #
Oh! wait sorry gotta go.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:31 PM | #
dumby’s man
-do u relize how easy it would have been for dumbledore to uundo those enchantments!!! he was the one who not only knew them but put them there too!! he undid wll the ones to fly over the grounds with harry. y not then??
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:31 PM | #
hey did you hear my thing about Fortescue?
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:33 PM | #
dumby’s idiot man-
i got that “crap” from chapters one and two of book one. go ahead. look it up. read the chapters. it’s there.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:34 PM | #
jay could easily be right about the dumby apparating thing
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:40 PM | #
I think hagrid was gone for 24 hours after lily &james died because he had to sort stuff out if hermione is really harry’s sister. and maybe (maybe with ginny)
i think that’s crazy with ginny that she has lily’s hair and james’ eyes.
might just be coinkedink
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:41 PM | #
ya cyberdude that could be possible, what do u think of ollivander vanishing. i’ll bet the eaters will try to give wands to giants or something. that would suck for the order
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:42 PM | #
Ok, first - Dumbledore was not completely physically healthy as he had one hand that was deteriorating. While I don’t believe that he would ever use a Horcrux, it’s possible that this atrophy has something to do with a return.
I do think Snape and Dumbledore are up to something, especially how Dumbledore spoke his name before he ‘killed’ him.
Something new I’m going to say is that I think there is a distinct possiblility that Malfoy ends up on the good side. His moment of weakness in not killing Dumbledore shows a little glimmer of good, and if we assume that Snape is still on the good team, he did make an unbreakable vow to protect Malfoy… so either that happens, or Voldermort kills Malfoy - which I doubt because he has been central in all of the books. Plus Malfoy’s mother doesn’t seem to be 100% on board with the Death Eater thing, and she’s the only parent he has access to at the moment.
Anyway, just my thoughts.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:42 PM | #
exactly what i was thinking cyberjohn- maybe hermione did live with the potters and he was bringing her to the grangers or something, bvut that would mean voldemort didn’t know about her and didn’t find her..idk.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:45 PM | #
Olliver vanished because he was the best with wands. Some escaped death eaters might be after him because they need wands that they can get their best results with.
or maybe ollivander has turned bad. he did say voldemort did great things.
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:47 PM | #
malfoy may end up on the good side trent, but in an interview with jk rowling she says that “..harry and draco will hate eachother until they both die.”
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:49 PM | #
if hermione was REALLY his sister wouldn’t harry have seen her in the mirror?
that is one of the things that i dont get
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:49 PM | #
1 min cyber john i wrote down an answer to that odjection somewhere i think 1min…
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:52 PM | #
what do you guys think about my idea about ollivander?
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:52 PM | #
i found this at a sight to busy to figure it out though-A column writer claimed that there’s a possibility that Hermione is Harry’s sister. I doubt it. But I think Hermione related to Harry. She may be James Potter’s mother’s brother’s granddaughter. Maybe James’s mum was muggleborn and her maiden name was Granger! How about it?
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:57 PM | #
the ollivander idea was mine bud, your was the ice-cream dude
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:59 PM | #
maybe hermione wasn’t in the mirror because harry wanted to see the family he had never known, but he didn’t see hermione because she was a member of his family and he already met her so she wasn’t a family member harry didn’t know.
idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 08:59 PM | #
i think part of hagrid being late to drop off harry in the first book, was because he was visiting sirius. after all, the motorcyle hagrid rode WAS borrowed from Sirius
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:01 PM | #
yeah i guesse she could be related like that.
i was asking what people thought of my idea about ollivander in comment#495
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:01 PM | #
that’s wut i think of your question for hagrid being late kansas
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:02 PM | #
but sirius showed up at the scene whan hagrid was there and gave him the bike
that mirror idea is pretty good cyberjohn
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:06 PM | #
Don’t you guys think it’s a little weird that Ginny has Lily’s hair and James’ eyes. she COULD be related. a clue might be because harry felt just as upset as ron was when they cought her kissing.
but this theory leads to the thing that harry & ginny ended up going out w/ eachother.
it’s just really confusing
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:07 PM | #
hmm.. well that’s all i got for your question, so i guess i have nothing
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:08 PM | #
what do u guys think of my idea on post #207..jw.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:09 PM | #
Yes after a while this sight does get EXTREMELY confusing…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:10 PM | #
it IS a possibility. i think that is very likely. but Dumbledore said only a true Gryfindor could pull the sword out of the hat. i don’t understand how voldemort could get horcruxes inside of the hat.
it is convincing
i agree with kansas
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:12 PM | #
ya i was thinking that too right when dumbledore said the only thing that was left that belong to gryffindor was the sword… cuz what about hat! i also think it might be
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:12 PM | #
why would hemione being harrys sister be a secret. why would anyone wanna keep it from harry
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:13 PM | #
I think Fortescue did find a way to be reborn from you ashes or something that is why he was kidnapped. And if Harry is Ginny’s brother that is WRONG!!!!!! I mean wo goes out with their own sister?????
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:13 PM | #
that ginny thing was my idea from the beginning, idk, then that would mean-wait a min. what if ginny is really a year older than everybody thinks she is. maybe she harry’s twin sister. maybe it’s not a coincidence that lucious malfoy chose her to have the diary in book two, but that would mean that voldy knows she is harry’s sister. idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:14 PM | #
if all these theories are right, the 7th book is gonna be very long, because of all the connections and explanations
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:15 PM | #
I-AM-SO-CONFUSED!!!
i hate gay rumors. i do doubt harry and ginny are related. maybe it’s just coincidence
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
Ginny is not Harry’s sister that just doesn’t seem possible. No I think Voldermort doesn’t know that Hary has any sibling if he does…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
jay- ithink i’ve told u this about 3 times now- a secret keeper charm was performed-woe, maybe that’s why jkr sais that it is important that lily’s wand was good for charmwork
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
you guys are really stretching this ginny thing. she has red like every other weasley. her being harry’s siter is the one thing i could say for sure is wrong.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:16 PM | #
What was the charm secret keeper charm to do?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:18 PM | #
what the heck is secret keeper charm and why would anyone want it to be done in this situation
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:18 PM | #
ya jay, i kinda agree with that. it’s kinda fetched. hermione i’ll take into somekind of consideration.. but ginny? idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:18 PM | #
no duh not all of these ideas are true- not even a quarter of them are true
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:19 PM | #
Yes Hermionie seems very likely after reading all the things people point out on this website. But Ginny is really far-fetched. idk you never know…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:20 PM | #
i never said the ginny idea was true! u guys, these are just ideas to discuss
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:20 PM | #
a secret keeper charm has one person keep the secret it’s hard to explain. read about it in the 3rd book on page205
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:21 PM | #
ya, but i don’t think i’m gonna give the ginny and harry being siblings anymore thought. although at the time, it was an interesting thought.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:22 PM | #
who’s idea was the hemione harry thing anyways
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:22 PM | #
Yes I agree not even a eight of these ideas are true I think about 1 out of every hundred is true. But then there aren’t that many ideas I mean somebody will say some thing and we will talk about that until some one else get a lightbulb…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:22 PM | #
who’s idea was the hemione harry thing anyways and all the hints and proof
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:23 PM | #
i thought you got the harry hermy thing from some site or something kansas
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:24 PM | #
the secret keeper thing couls still be revealed by the person holding the secret. and again why would someone put a secret keeper thing on this. why would lily or anyone want this to be a secret.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:24 PM | #
I am not sure whos idea the Hermionie Harry thing was… Look a couple hundred posts back…YA same here I won’t give the Harry Ginny thing anymore thought…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:25 PM | #
kansas, i first heard of that idea from one of your posts
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:27 PM | #
Liza- it’s The Marauder’ Map i think on page 209 in the american version
im goin to turn in now
i won’t be back until sunday night if anyone cares.
DANG i wish i had a laptop
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:27 PM | #
Yes maybe a promise but why a SECRET KEEPER CHARM on the fact that Hermionie is Harry’s sister? And plus the secret keeper thing can only be performed by the Fidelus Charm which only hides OBJECTS!
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:27 PM | #
jay- they would want it to be a secret that hermione is harry’s sister so that voldemort doesn’t kill off they’re whole family. if he does this he is one huge step closer to immirtality
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:28 PM | #
Yes the orginal idea of Hermionie being Harry’s sister was from one of your posts kansas…
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:30 PM | #
well when i get back i’ll have some reading to get too. the number of comments will most likely triple
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:30 PM | #
u guys about the secret keeper charm- i’m sick of the quesions. read post 163 i think it is. the harry hermione idea was mine. it was a couple of cays ago i said it
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:32 PM | #
hmm, i don’t think harry has siblings. just harry. but i guess we won’t know until the final book
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:32 PM | #
In the beggining people would post 3-4 times a day with long posts. Now it is more like an iming page..
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:33 PM | #
i have another hunch about ollivander but it’s too long to start. i”l get up really early before i leave.
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:33 PM | #
well if it was your idea, then why’d you ask who’s idea it was?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:33 PM | #
the keeper charm is to a hide an oblect not keep a secret. and there is no harm is letting out the secret now. and the keeper charm allows the person holding the secret to reveal it
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:35 PM | #
i seriously didn’t remember. it was a couple of days ago like i said
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:37 PM | #
in the first book it said that voldemort never tried to convince lily and james to be on his side.. any theories on this?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:41 PM | #
and also, hagrid said “dunno if he (voldemort) had enough human left in him to die.” does hagrid know about the horcruxes? (not saying he’s R.A.B.)
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:47 PM | #
no u r totally wrong about that jay, the secret keeper charm is performed by the person or people who have a secret. they choose one person (the secret keeper)to be able to tell people the secret. anybody else who says the secret probably dies or something.sirious convinced lily and james to choose peter pettigrew at the last minute to be there secret keeper about where they lived or something like that. it doesn’t exactly say what they wanted hidden from people/voldemort, maybe that’s a twist. this was how peter was able to feed this info to voldy, not anybody else.also another example is dumbledore was the secret keeper for the order of the pheonix, or the secret of it’s location. this is why ron and hermione can’t tell harry where they are in book five. that’s why the group that transported harry from dursley’s to #12 couldn’t tell either. only when moody gave harry a slip of paper written by dumby(the their secret keeper)it said #12 grimauld place. the second harry read it it burst into flames….the secretkeeper for harry and hermione’s secret siblinghood is the only person that can reveal it to harry. this is y hermione cann’t and never did tell harry about them. she couldn’t…get it now?
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:47 PM | #
he couldn’t or didn’t convince them because they defied(escaped him 3 times)
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:49 PM | #
well what i meant, is maybe you were onto something when you said voldy’s james’ uncle and he had to kill off the family. that’s why he didn’t want james to be on his side in the first place. idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:52 PM | #
well who is the secret keeper for this secret. i would think it is hermione. but whoever it why cant they reveal it. like peter revealed the potters secret so to hermione or whoever is keeping the secret should have givin up the secret once voldermort died (or sort of died)
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:52 PM | #
hagris HAS been at hogwarts for more than 50 years. he could know alot of things
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:53 PM | #
kansas did i finally convince u im right or not
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:58 PM | #
i’m 13
and if this is true i doubt hermione is the secret keeper,she would have been the secret keeper since before her first year or since she was told. i think the secret keeper isn’t and can’t and shouldn’t reveal the secret because if they tell harry or hermione(if she doesn’t know, but i think she does,((my proof she knows is in posts164-188)))they would blab at somepoint, but could they? if they are told they’re still not the secret keeper so they can’t really tell anyone after that, idk
Posted on August 17, 2005 09:59 PM | #
i doon’t think hermione and harry are siblings
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:00 PM | #
how old r u?
i gotta hit the sack!it’s 1:00 A.M. where i live! u?
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:02 PM | #
u seem less sure of urself than before. after voldermot died whoever the secret keeper was should have told the secret so family could be reunited. i could think of 20 good things that could come out from revealing the secret after voldermort died and not one bad reason to reveal it. the only way i could possibly think of this secret not being told is if the secret keeper died in which case we will never know
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:03 PM | #
have u read my proof 164-188. idk there’s alot of it. who knows . we’ll just have to wait
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:04 PM | #
man i must be one of the youngest people here. except zelph, he sounds younger than me idk y.lol.
cya 2mar0
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:06 PM | #
i read ur proofs and it sounded good at the time but now that i thought about it i highly highly doubt harry and hermione are bro and sis
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:06 PM | #
ya bye kansas.. i don’t think harry and hermione are related. just too much behind it to be true and too non-important.
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:08 PM | #
do u like arby’s or do u hate it? just answer
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:09 PM | #
rochester is pretty far from me. where r u from. and im only 14.
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:10 PM | #
Well I am younger than you too kansas…
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:11 PM | #
What is Arby’s???
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:13 PM | #
the food place?? good lord this is off topic. i’m out later
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:14 PM | #
and i’m not from kansas and i don’t live in kansas i’m from and live in michigan.
-also, i have a feeling harry might have to enter the chamber of secrets in book seven, maybe to search for a horcrux or something of the sort. i mean it was created by salazar slytherin, and it did seem pretty big in book two, maybe when tom riddle opened it 50 years previously he kept things there. could be anything. or maybe-probably- there are more hidden secrets of the castle, maybe more secret passage ways that moony, wormtail, padfoot, and prongs didn’t locate, or put on the map….cya tomorrow(for good)i’m gone
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:14 PM | #
Yes I agree I think there are hundreds if not thousands(just kidding lol) of passageways in Hogwasrts… hundreds not thousands…
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:16 PM | #
i agree with kansas seeing as how voldemort is the heir of slytherin the chamber of secrets would be a logical place ti find a horcrux
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:58 PM | #
i agree with kansas seeing as how voldemort is the heir of slytherin the chamber of secrets would be a logical place ti find a horcrux
Posted on August 17, 2005 10:58 PM | #
no i didn’t kansaz. maybe just maybe we should just wait for the next book, and let rowling surprise us. except it might be two years till the next book comes out because of her babies. hmmmmmmm. what will happen when all the books have finished. Who has seen goblet of fire trailer?????
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:44 AM | #
Snape is probably on the good side. I mean look at how much trust dumbledore had in him. A wizard that clever can’t be wrong. However maybe we have to except that dumbledore is dead. WE always knew she would kill him off one day didn’t we kansas.
It is a task harry must do alone eh. Either way if hes dead or not i am not going to leave the house till i finish the 7th book because there is always one person who reads it in like an hour then ruins it for me. I hated it when someone told me dumbledore was killed before i read it. I almost slapped him. That ever happened to u guys????
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:49 AM | #
trailers cool i read fast im the one who tells ppl LOL
Posted on August 18, 2005 05:59 AM | #
People respond to to this you know RAB for reg black. Mudungus nicked some things from sirius home. One of them was the locket!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m sure someone has already mentioned this/ The locket hasn’t been destroyed. J.K Rowling has already written the final chapter
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:04 AM | #
So shes written the ending for the last book ooooooooooooooooo spooky. I bet Ron and Hermione will get together but nothing will happen to harrys love life. Someone important will die and harry will discover some crazy secret . Your a woman harry……
I’D KAUGH IF IT SAID HARRY AWOKE IN LILY AND JAMES POTTERS HOUSE IT WAS ALL A DREAM…
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:08 AM | #
So shes written the ending for the last book ooooooooooooooooo spooky. I bet Ron and Hermione will get together but nothing will happen to harrys love life. Someone important will die and harry will discover some crazy secret . Your a woman harry……
I’D lAUGH IF IT SAID HARRY AWOKE IN LILY AND JAMES POTTERS HOUSE IT WAS ALL A DREAM…
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:08 AM | #
oops sorry for posting the same thing twice. Do you think danile radcliffe and the gang will do all 7 movies. Maybe they’ll put make up on to make them look younger. What do you think?
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:10 AM | #
James and Lily went into hiding because they were marked for death.
I believe the reason Voldy has ollivander is because he wants to learn how to overcome the problem of wand’s brothers fighting eachother. In GoF Voldy and Harry are fighting, and Voldy’s wand starts shooting out dead people.
I doubt Harry and Hermione and siblings in any way, it just wouldn’t seem right. If they are though, in the mirror, Harry probably wouldn’t have seen her because he didn’t know he had a sister.
Btw, I have seen the trailer for GoF, looks good. But the movie cuts out: Mrs. Weasley, Dooby, Winky, Percy, Bill or Charlie (I forget which), Ludo Bagman and Sirius only has one seen in the fire.
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:13 AM | #
I think they will use the same actors (unless some die or something) … I think Hermione and Ron will get together, and I think Harry and Ginny will “make love” by the end of the book … lol … And I was the one who said JK wrote the last chapter, however she expects it to change between now and the publish date. The last word is also “scar” currently … If anyone know any major differences between the UK edition and the American Edition, could you please tell me. I know the American Edition says something like “He can’t kill you if you are already dead.” (Dumble says that to Draco) which is a major hint that Dumble might not be dead …
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:23 AM | #
Guys, regarding Dumbledore’s death. Well, from what I’ve heard, there are 3 possibilities. 1. Dumbledore faked death and he’s still alive. The pros are that he said he could easily fake someone’s death and of course, he is a powerful wizard, we did not see his body at the funeral, his wand hasn’t been found and snapped in 2 like it happens with dead wizard’s wands and the fact that Snape’s Avada Kedavra spell was acting very different then it usually does. The cons are the fact that he appears in the portrait, the revulsion in Snape’s eyes, the part where Harry sais “he knew the Phoenix had left this school for good, just like Dumbledore had left this world”. The second possibility is that he is dead but Snape killed him on his own orders.
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:50 AM | #
the pros are the discussion between Snape and Dumbledore that Hagrid overheard, of course, everything Snape has done for the Order, the fact that Dumbledore trusts him SO much and the possibility that the revulsion and hatred in Snape’s eyes when he kills Dumbledore is because of what he is forced to do and not because of Dumbledore. And also the possibility that Dumbledore’s pleading was for Snape to kill him, not to let him alive. I have also thought of something else. If Snape was as powerful as JKR wants us to think, if he had been on the Dark Side, why would he be a simple servant of Voldemort when he could actually be “the leader”? I mean, being so powerful and all. The cons - well, Snape really fits the typical Death Eater, he also hates most of the people in the Order, as he said in the chapter “Spinner’s End”, Voldemort is a powerful Legilimens and, even if Snape is a good Occlumens, could he really foool the most powerful Legilimens?!?
And the third possibility - Dumbledore is dead and Snape killed him willingly, on Voldemort’s orders, the hatred look on his face was indeed because he hated Dumbledore and well, you know all the pros and cons.
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:00 AM | #
Personally, I would bet on the 3rd option, which is also the one I like best and find most interesting.
But I don’t find the matter of Dumbledore’s death or Snape’s side as interesting as the subject of R.A.B. Who could R.A.B be? Well,m of course, we all thought of Regulus Black, possibly Regulus Alphard Black, if he took his uncle’s name. That would explain the A in the middle. But why Regulus Black? There are only 2 pros for that. The letters (at least the R and the B) fit for Regulus Black and only him, from all the characters in the book. He is also dead. But besides that, why him? I mean, those two are not really convincing. There would also be the locket mentioned in OOTP, when they were cleaning the house. But if so, wouldn’t Harry had found it familiar when he saw it in Hokey’s memory? I personally think R.A.B. is Regulus, too, mostly because there is no other candidate. And I am sure R.A.B is someone we know, because JKR wouldn’t have left us like that unless she wanted us to figure out who he was. But it still is a bit obvious. I don’t understand, though. Regulus was described as a fresh member of the Death Eaters, who is easily scared and quite stupid. Now, how could such a person find out about the Horcruxes? Because Voldemort didn’t tell anyone about them, not even his most faithful Death Eaters. So why would he tell Regulus? It doesn’t make sense. Let’s ignore that and say he somehow found out. But how could he had actually found it and destroyed it, all in one year? It took Dumbledore more than a year to find it, and don’t tell me Regulus was a better wizard than Dumbledore! And also, supposing he had found out about it and about its location…how could he have destroyed it? He was weak, stupid and easily scared! How can such a person do something like that? It doesn’t really make sense. So, if any of you have any more pros about Regulus being R.A.B., please write them.
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:12 AM | #
maybe he kills voldermort and his scar disappears. Or maybe just maybe just maybe it was scarf not scar! By the way when i post news i can’t really tell if someone has already posted the same noise cos i’m not gona read everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so calm down easter.
Neville will die i read it!
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:55 AM | #
I also read that harry gets off with hermione, in front of cho chang so she kissed ron. Then
Ginny catches harry and hermione so goes back to dean who sadly died because voldermort came to school and killed everyone with a name beggining with d. But dumbledore names started with albus. harry and Hermione got married in sunny mexico. Ha the ending is ruined for you!!!! Voldermort is only mentioned for two pages.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:01 AM | #
Hey im getting tired of having to scroll down to the bottom of the page every time there is a new comment.
i have an idea, whoever has msn messenger add my email to their list so it is easier to talk, cuz this page is getting too long.
you can have as many people you want in an msn conversation. so anyone that has msn messenger add my email cahte@hotmail.com to their contacts list so it’s easier to talk.
ps make sure your screenname is the same one on this site.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:23 AM | #
When i get to the bottom i go back to the top of the slide then u stop and u turn and i go for a ride, then i get to the bottom and i’ll See U AGAIN!!!!!!!!! Yeah yeah. Do u don’t you want me to love u! I’m coming down fast but i’m miles above u!!!!!!!!!! Tell me tell me the answer you maybe a lover but u ain’t no dancer!!!!!!!!! Helter skelter, Helter skelter. Ooooooooooooo.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:47 AM | #
i heard that jk has already finished the &th book and is just waiting 2 years because she’s afraid she’s made mistakes and not written enough and stuff like that. i hope the last book is like 1000 pages. that would suck if it was as long as the half blood prince. i was pretty dissapointed to see how short it was when i first bought it
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:49 AM | #
kansas, youre onlt 13?
zelph &me are almost16
any way do you have msnmessenger?
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:56 AM | #
• I think it is regulus black, sirius’s brother the death eater who was killed by voldemort 16yr’s before HBP.
• Could it be Siruis’s brother? Regulus Black, I can’t find his middle name, it isn’t on the tapestry. Plus we know that Lord V killed him for trying to back out of the DE. Could he have switched the horcrux prior to being killed?
• In book 6, chapter 28 “Flight of the Prince”, on page 609, Harry reads a note from an anonymous person by the initials of R.A.B. The note says:
“To the Dark Lord, I know I will be dead long before you read this but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret. I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can. I face death in the hope that when you meet your match, you will be mortal once more. R.A.B.”
After much thought, I have come to suspect that Regulus Black, Sirius’ brother, wrote this letter. He is the only person, thus far, that has been mentioned with those initials in the Harry Potter series. We can assume that Regulus was a Death Eater, as was the rest of the family, except Sirius. And in book 6, chapter 3 on page 50, Dumbledore mentions Sirius’ brother, saying that he died before Sirius and bore no children. I do not know why Regulus would have sought and taken the locket Horcrux, but one can guess it was because Lord Voldemort was upset with him in some way and Regulus knew that he was going to be killed anyway.
• Well, we all seem to think it’s Regulus, and I must agree. For further proof, consider this. In book 5, when they’re at Grimmauld Place, which is the Black family house, they find a “heavy locket” that they can’t open. That HAS to mean Regulus got the true Horcrux, left a fake one in its place, and brought the real one back to the Black family house, and that’s what the kids found in book 5, but didn’t realize it at the time. That just makes sense.
• I agree that RAB is Sirius’ brother. I also think the locket was once at 12 Grimmauld Place, as were several of the other Horcruxes (Perhaps the goblet that clued Harry into the fact Mundungus was stealing from him? Is that the Hufflepuff cup?) But I think that Mundungus Fletcher may have taken these items when he stripped the place as Harry found out just outside of the Three Broomsticks in chapter 12. I think Harry will spend quite a bit of time following up on Mundungus Fletcher’s whereabouts in book 7.
• I believe that R.A.B is Regulus Black. It is believed he was a Death Eater, and was murdered for backing out of some thing Lord Voldemort wanted him to do. I went back and checked the 5th and 6th books for clues about Reguls and his possesions. I realized that on page 116 in the 5th Harry Potter book they mention a locket that none of them can open. This could be Slytherin’s locket. Regulus could have died from taking the locket from the cave , and then hiding it from Voldemort at number 12 Grimmauld Place.
• regulus black, sirius’s brother. he wrote the letter adressed to the ‘dark lord’ because that’s the way death eaters call voldemort. he hide the horcrux in his house, in fact, in the order of the fenix the locket is mentioned among the other stuff that harry and the others were cleaning.
• I also think R.A.B. is Regulus Black, however I’m not sure the locket in book 5 is the Slytherin’s locket because then there would have been a curse on anyone who tried to open the locket, and they all tried. Just a thought.
• The middle name of RAB could be the same as sirus’s favouite uncle. Sirus also said he didn’t thing his brother important enought to be killed by Voldermort. I think Snape was given the task and let Sirus’s brother go free.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:01 AM | #
idk how can i tell if i do, id really pay attention to that stuf i just send stuff
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:02 AM | #
hello? hey i’m sitting here playing pinball waiting for u guys to talk>
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:14 AM | #
It’s a bit cheeky of mudungus to steal the goblet horcrux. Give him a slap kansas
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:22 AM | #
Trust me she wouldn’t sit there for two years thinking will people like my last book. If she writes that fast she must of had a very clear vision of the ending. Also it doesn’t take that long to the scroll to the bottom, it takes under one second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:25 AM | #
what do u guys think is one of the funniest parts in the harry potter. also i just had a thought. i think ollivander might be a death eater. he may have set up the scene in the store to make it look like he was dragged out and all his wands were stolen. in book one after harry spoke with him for the first time it says harry didn’t like him that much and he didn’t know y. olly may have been waiting this whole time for voldemort to return, and then chose to return to him after the “2nd war” began. just a thought
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:26 AM | #
RAB for regulus black??? Why is there an A in it. I reckon harry will look at the note at the dursleys, and find out what RAB means and get pi***d. He’ll go out and get it off mudungus first before he gets off with Hermione. Ginny will help him before she gets off with malfoy. Its a bad ending but hey it’s mudungus fault. What do you think kansas?
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:29 AM | #
jackie-poo-jk r was writing parts of every book while she writing the first book. it says this in many of her interviews. also y not make her fans wait another 2 years, it will build up the suspence for the ultimate climax.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:29 AM | #
Because in one of her interviews she said all she done is written the last chapter. The reason it’s not coming out for another two years is because now shes got kids, and there’s not much time to write. Were talking like a chapter a month. Don’t call me jackie poo
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:32 AM | #
AHHH KANSAS I DO LIKE YOU, BUt your IDEA OF FUN IS PINBALL ON THE P.C. OLLIVANDER COULD BE EVIL YEAH…….. SHUOLDN’T WE WAIT THOUGH. IM STARTING TO THINK U GUYS ARE TOO CLEVER AND THAT THERE WON’T BE ANY SURPRISES IN THE LAST BOOK COS YOU’VE SUSSED IT OUT
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:35 AM | #
jack- in an interview with editor of the leaky cauldron(magazine) jk is asked if rab is regulus black. jk responds.”that would a….um..fine guess!”
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:35 AM | #
ah!found it!
a rumor”harry potter will not end with book seven.”jk replies
“nope, it will. the final book is already done, and ready- though we can peobably expect it only after another year. so book seven will be the final one.”
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:41 AM | #
srry my best friend’s name is jack and everybody calls him jackie-poo or jaque. couldn’t resist
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:43 AM | #
I THINK SOMETHING BIG IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO GINNY. USUALLY ROWLING NEVER TALKS SO MUCH ABOUT HARRYS INTERESTS WITH GIRLS, LIKE CHO CHANG WAS OT MENTIONED AS MUCH AS GINNY. VOLDERMORT GOING TO USE GINNY, BECAUSE IT WHATS HARRY WOULD RISK HIS LIFE FOR. MAYBE LURE HIM. I WAS SURPRISED HOW THERE WAS ALOT ABOUT GINNY. I THINK ROWLING IS REALLY TRYING TO GET US TO KNOW ABOUT GINNY. LIKE THAT POTION IN THE CLASS WHICH HAS THE SMELL OF WHAT YOU LOVE MOST. WHEN GINNY WALKS BEST HIM AND HE CAN SMELL THE STRONG POTION ON HER. THE THING HE MOST LOVES. SHE MIGHT DIE, BUT I DON’T THINK ROWLING WOULD KILL OF SUCH A FIT GIRL(WHEN SHE’S OLDER AS WE ONLY REALLY SEE HER IN THE FILMS AS 12)I HATE THE WAY HARRY BUTS ON HIS HEROIC WAYS AND SAYS. “GINNY WE CAN’T SEE EACHOTHER AGAIN, I’VE GOT TO FIGHT HIM ALONE……………………………………………………………………………………………….. OH HARRY SHES THE ONLY GOOD LOOKING GIRL IN HOGWARTS WHO ACTUALLY LIKES YOU. WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:44 AM | #
jack, zlph, dumby’s man, cyberdude, do u guys have sn’s
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:45 AM | #
please read what i said above even though its long. Yeah i’m just asking what does the a stand for in rab. SHe hasn’t finished the book show me proof.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:46 AM | #
yeah but i don’t use it because i am fat ugly and a big sweat
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:47 AM | #
oh yeah ginny. How old are u anyway, because i would rather go out with a ginny my age
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:53 AM | #
it could be anything. alphard, whatever tonks dad or uncle’s name is it starts with an A. how am i supposed to know
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:55 AM | #
bonnie is the girl who plays ginny in the movies. look her up on google images
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:56 AM | #
i’m thirteen,born in 1991. bonnie wright is 13, born 1991. i’m only six months older than her.
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:59 AM | #
hey hey i’m going for her, nah go on yahoo images. She looks great on her black and white picture. berzing. Would u go out with her, even with the fame side???
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:01 AM | #
i’ll be back later i got other things to do cya
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:03 AM | #
i’m going for her, get out of my way kansas shes mine. I could see it now the headline heroic boy goes out with damsel in distress bonnie
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:03 AM | #
duh i would, i’m gone not coming back till later cya
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:04 AM | #
okay, i think that the death eater’s that escaped from Azkaban are after Ollivander because he makes the best wands and the death eaters need wands that they can get good results with. so ollivander went into hiding because he might not want anything to do with the death eaters. it says ollivander’s shop didn’t have any sign of a struggle. but fortescue’s shop looked like he had been dragged out. maybe fortescue was behind dumbledore’s body burning cuz he fortescue knew a lot about witch burning and the death eaters found out he was helping dumbledore so they kidnapped him.
maybe
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:13 AM | #
Why do you want to go out with Bonnie Wright?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:13 AM | #
all of the child actors in harry potter movies are all ugly and are the worst actors in the world. Napoleon Dynamite was a better movie than the harry potter ones. the books are all right but the movies suck
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:16 AM | #
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it’s way easier
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:18 AM | #
why wouldn’t i want to go out with bonnie wight ask yourself that! She’s not 11 anymore ok…..
Also ollivander i think that the death eaters wouldn’t get him for wands, because he had the best. It doesn’t matter what wand you have it’s how you use it!!!!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:21 AM | #
geez fine just anyone that is on tell me if my messenger idea was good
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:21 AM | #
jack what are you 5 years old? i have seen way hotter chicks. do you have messenger?!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:25 AM | #
CyberJohn: I have MSN Messenger…
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:33 AM | #
DO YOU KNOW What i do have msn messanger. I hardly ever use it but u know what i’ll try and use it for u. I’ll try and make an account now cyber. i’ll tell you if i can
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:49 AM | #
grrr sorry cyber john, it was nice knowing u though
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:53 AM | #
Regulus could have found a second person, a very powerful wizard, to go with him to find the locket. As Dumbledore pointed out, it was not a job meant for 1 person to complete. Perhaps Snape? Snape then rats out Regulus to look good to Voldemort, but doesn’t tell Voldy where the locket is.
Snape may also know what Voldy’s other Horcruxes are and could help Harry in the final book, but only if he finds that Harry is a worthy wizard, which may take some convincing. Harry will have to work on his Occlumency again.
Dumbledore is dead, but may still help out Harry somehow.
I think Harry is the last Horcrux (Voldemort made a significant killing in that location, didn’t know what kind of magic he was getting into, what with at least 5 other Horcruxes out there and fell victim to more powerful forces then he had expected). Voldemort has realized, after sharing thoughts with Harry, that the Horcrux is intact, so he does not want Harry killed. I think he will want to keep Harry alive so that he can continue living.
Posted on August 18, 2005 11:04 AM | #
so someone puts a fake goblet in the potion thingy? what about that neither can live while the other survives? Didn’t they say harry can’t be hurt if he stays at the dursleys because petunia is the last relative lily evans and the same blood runs through of sacrifice. It will be another curse which backfires…
Posted on August 18, 2005 11:37 AM | #
u guys in book 5 or maybe six. harry is talking with dumbledore after dumbledore was telling him more secrets about harry to harry. dumbledore says that now that harry’s blood is in harry every time voldemort gets stronger harry will as well. after dumdy tells him this harry asks if there is a limit to this power struggle. dumbledore sais yes, that is why “..neither can live while the other survives.” one of them has to die for the other to gain power eventually. i’ll try to find the exact word. 1 min…
Posted on August 18, 2005 12:27 PM | #
so kansas i finally got a date with ginny beat ya to it
Posted on August 18, 2005 12:50 PM | #
Ya I mean what are you talking about Jack?
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:38 PM | #
i can’t really think of any more big ideas. wow
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:40 PM | #
that’s a little off the topic of the book… but ok…
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:41 PM | #
ya i know wut you mean kansas. it gets all to confusing, and then you just can’t think anymore anyways
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:42 PM | #
o i got one. i think something big is already going to happen to harry on his way back to the dursleys in book 7. i mean all the other books end in him going back, and half the books are longer than book 6. so y not make book six a little (maybe a couple pages) longer to include harry’s return trip? something is going to happen, or be discovered
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:44 PM | #
maybe, either that and then it will ruin fleur and bill’s wedding, or it will happen after it, cuz it said that there was still one last golden day of peace left to enjoy with ron and hermione
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:52 PM | #
but after a quick checkk ALL the books did say something about following uncle vernon out of the station, or returning to the muggle gateway
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:56 PM | #
o ya but that could just mean oooo yah! he had a peaceful day for once, and then he gets to go back to the dursley’s for what will probably be a short visit.or maybe jk will include that golden day in the last book. idk.
- but i still think something’s gonna happen with the chamber of secrets and the sorting hat and the mirror of erised and the room of requirement. i mean it IS the room of REQUIREMENT
Posted on August 18, 2005 01:58 PM | #
ya but the mirror.. idk. it was just to reveal his power to love. that what dumbledore said i think. and he said it was going to be destroyed. but he didn’t say it was a horcruxe, so maybe it was just a mirror to show harry’s power that he didn’t know he had
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:01 PM | #
well i think in the 7th book, the Bloody Baron will be more involved cuz i’m pretty sure the way he died was from the sectumsempra, and i think that will be a part… unless hogwarts closes then i’m not sure where it will be brought up.
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:10 PM | #
Liza that is a good idea. MAybe he did die from Sectrrumspectra! That is why he is the BLOODY baron! Somebody probably used Sectrumspectra on him and then left him.
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:14 PM | #
k well i’ll bb in like an hour or so cya bye
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:15 PM | #
and in the first book, it said that no one knew really how he died, cuz nearly headless nick didn’t ask him, and if snape made up the curse.. maybe snape killed him
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:19 PM | #
but it think bloddy baron is too old for snape to have killed him.. so someone else had to have known the curse
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:20 PM | #
i think all of the gohsts will have decent role in 7. a kid asked jk in an interview how wizards become ghosts. she just says that we will have to wait for book seven to find out. that’s y she hasn’t written much about it in the first six books. it will be A big climax in book seven.
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:22 PM | #
well it’s gonna have to be if it’s the last book, it has to wrap everything up
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:24 PM | #
i personally think that the grey lady of ravenclaw is in fact rowena ravenclaw herself. she knows dark secrets about the heir of slytherin or something. y wouldn’t she have a name like the bloody baron or sir nicholas… i don’t have book six with me id remember his full name…porpinkton or something nick…….porpinkton..w/e
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:27 PM | #
his full name is sir nicholas de mimsy-porpington
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:29 PM | #
what do u guys think will happen with filch. also i think there might be a secret passage off of the library. u know one of the classic pull a book off a shelf a reaveal what’s in the debts of big scary tunnel #1. ??????
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:34 PM | #
Yes I agree. But whenever the ghosts are mentioned they never really describe the grey lady of Ravenclaw. I mean they don’t talk about how the Fat Friar died but the portray him as a jolly ghost. Nick is a normal ghost and the Baron is gaunt and silent. WAIT!! Why is Peeves afraid of the Baron? Maybe Peeves killed the Baron and then Baron came back to haunt him! That is why Peeves is afraid of him!
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:36 PM | #
lol, maybe and in the first book it said they (ron harry hermione) came across a secret passage in the statue of smarmy.. that may come into effect
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:37 PM | #
maybe.. because the bloody baron is the only one that can control peeves
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:38 PM | #
liza i thought of the exact same thing about the statue of smarmy acouple of days ago! but i didn’t post it. wasn’t it lee jordan who said he found a secret passage and the twins figured it was “..the behiind the statue of smarmy we found in our first week.” how do we know the one with smarmy is one of the four fred and george tell harry not to take in book three while showing and giveing him the maradaur’s map
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:49 PM | #
Why is it that the Bloody Baron is the only one able to control Peeves?
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:49 PM | #
That is probably going to play a big role in the last book! Maybe Voldermort or some Death Eaters are know about it! That is how they get in and then the last battle will take place there! And I also think one Harry, Ron ,and Hermionie turn seventeen they are going to join the Order! Well Harry atleast. And maybe at the end the wizarding world will be exposed to the muggle world and they will live in peace
Posted on August 18, 2005 02:53 PM | #
i’ll bet the bloody baron was murdered by a dark wizard at the top of the w/e tower. nick says the bloody baron mopes around at the top of i don’t remember what tower. “..it is a favorite past time of his.”
i also believe that peeves and the bloody baron knew eachother while they were alive
-i don’t have my hbp with me
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:06 PM | #
oh ya your right, lee jordan did thought he found a new passage but the weasleys thought it was the Gregory the Smarmy statue one. there were 7 passages in all. and finch know about 4. there was one behind a mirror that was completely blocked off, but they still used it until it caved in, and there’s one right by the whooping willow, and one that leads right into the cellar of Honeydukes, and the entrance was through the one-eyed old corne’s hump.. but that’s only three they said
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:08 PM | #
what idea is gonna play a big role dumby’s man?
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:10 PM | #
Two things…
I think Peeves used Sectrumspectra on the Baron. This is some how going to play a bg role in the outcome of the book.
There probably is a Death Eater who knows about the Smarmy passage and will lead LV and all the Death Eaters into Hogwarts for the final battle
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:13 PM | #
maybe.. but then why would peeves be scared of the baron? wouldn’t it be the other way around?
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:15 PM | #
But maybe he killed the Baron with Sectrumspectra and tehn the Baron haunted him or did something to him ato make him scared and then Peeves died! That is why he is scared maybe the Baron know what he is scared of!
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:19 PM | #
hmm, i suppose that’s good logic. but i do believe either way that the Bloody Baron was killed using the Sectrumspectra, and statue of Gregory of Smarmy may play a role.. but the passages will be big in the 7th book
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:21 PM | #
Oh yes the passages will be huge in the seventh book. I bet the Death Eater might attack HoneyDukes to take all the candy and get fat(just kidding rofl) but maybe they wanna attack the school so they will take over Hogsmeade and then discover the passage in HoneyDukes and will discover the passageway and get in. And they will also plan to torture the ids by blowing the candy up!jk rofl!
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:25 PM | #
i do. i can tell by robbie coltranes ‘sort of’ answer he gave when asked if he was signed for all seven movies
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:52 PM | #
That is true well actually he has to be signed for all seven because e survived the sixth. I think Hagrid might die. It seems like the thing he would do saving Harry or something
Posted on August 18, 2005 03:54 PM | #
ya i was gonna say he’d prbly die saving harry or something.. but hagrid has never been there when it came to fighting anything.
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:01 PM | #
(except in the last book he was there when snape and malfoy were escaping)
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:02 PM | #
That is very true. I think Hagrid wil do a lot of fighting. Hehasn’t fought at all except in the 5th and 6th books
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:04 PM | #
but guys it’s probably pretty hard for him to fight considering he was expelled over 50 previous, and only in his third year. his wand was “repaired” after being turned into woodchips. and his wand is disguised as a fricken pink umbrella. and he was banned to use magic
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:17 PM | #
i can’t do this right now my computer is really slow right now. be back tonight. i’ll have some ideas
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:22 PM | #
Same here I will be back tonight. Gotta go now.
Posted on August 18, 2005 04:58 PM | #
At first i thought R.A.B was that person (who everyone else thinks he is) too, but then that makes it so obvious now, everyone knows about it, would J.K do something that obivious, i think she might throw in a loop or something…as for snape being part of the plan, defiantly, and some facts about dumbledore not being dead too…lets hope not:-(
Posted on August 18, 2005 05:56 PM | #
kk, my idea was that trevor the toad is regulus black, he is an animangi, he is searching the castle for more horcruxes. this would explain him always getting away from neville
-also, raed my favorite theory starting at post 164-188, u don’t have to, but it think you’ll find it interesting
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:40 PM | #
Ya JK made it way to obvious for RAB to Regelus Alphard Black and JK will make things obvious and then kill that idea by doing something noone expected. And I think it is more of JK’s style to have Mundugus nick the locket.
Posted on August 18, 2005 06:58 PM | #
ya it is quite obvious who RAD would be… so either Jk underestimated the cleverness of her readers.. or she did it on purpose to surprise everyone. most likely the second reason
Posted on August 18, 2005 07:16 PM | #
Kansas i just wanted to say that there is no way that the goblet mudungus had was rowena ravenclaws because it had the mark of the black house on it.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:07 PM | #
did i ever claim that the goblet was rowena’s?
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:44 PM | #
most of these ideas are those of other people i’ve talked to—-• Immediately when Harry and Dumbledore were discussing the existence of another Horcrux, one previously owned by Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, I saw that Dumbledore had made a mistake. He pointed to the sword Harry had found in book 2, indicating that the “last remaining relic of Gryffindor’s” was safe and therefore not a Horcrux, implying that their efforts would probably be better put to use in looking for some artifact of Ravenclaw’s or some as-yet undiscovered Gryffindor treasure. What he failed to realize was that Gryffindor had in fact left behind another artifact, one which he and Harry were both quite familiar with – the Sorting Hat! It has been mentioned on various occasions that the Sorting Hat once belonged to Gryffindor, and if Dumbledore’s assumptions were correct, that Voldemort really did choose his Horcruxes based on their connection to the Hogwarts legacy, then the Sorting Hat seems the perfect choice. It is also one of the last places anyone would think to look – often the best hiding places are the ones that are not hidden. As soon as I thought of it, though, I thought that surely if it was a Horcrux, then Dumbledore would have detected it. Knowing J.K. Rowling’s style, though, I know that she thinks of everything, therefore she must have remembered that the Sorting Hat belonged to Gryffindor, making any oversight on Dumbledore’s part when pointing things out a potentially significant clue. Wow, try to count the commas in that sentence. I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling the Sorting Hat will probably play a role of some significance in the next book. Seeing as how the Sorting Hat was one of the first magical objects he encountered upon entering Hogwarts his first year, it would be fitting if that were also the last Horcrux he were to destroy in his final year (providing he even returns to Hogwarts, or that the school is open at all)
• Although the Sorting Hat may be a Horcruxe I seriously doubt it because when Dumbledore put on Guant’s ring it damaged his hand. All the kids that put the hat on would have some kind of brain damage and the characters seem fine. The hat says that Gryffindor took it off his head and the founders put brains in the hat making it able to talk and think.
• Harry Potter is Voldy’s Gryffindor Horcruxe. All this non-sense about “transference of power” and what not… Rowling has said that we get clues as to HP6 & 7 with Chamber of Secrets… what were some of the things? well, we learn Harry is a “true” Gryffindor… ok. We know that Tom Riddle even noticed how “they even look alike”… ok… the sorting hat was confused a bit in HPSS, but stood its ground in CoS…ok… and, we also know now that in order to create the Horcruxe, you have to kill someone, which breaks off your soul and then you capture it and place it somewhere. Ok…. now, what happened before Harry was attacked as a child? Voldy killed his mother. Ok. So, the spell is complete… BUT the murder was a sacrifice from love… so that’s what binded the soul to the Horcrux, in this case Harry… THIS is why he has so many similiarities to Voldy… it’s not Quirrel who couldn’t stand to be touched by Harry, but Vldy… THIS is why Harry and Voldy were at a standstill during GoF… THIS is why Voldy couldn’t possess Harry for long in OoP… THIS is why they were connected for so long… so either Harry IS the Horcruxe, or his lightning scar is (remember reference to lightning in Book 6??)… hence Dumbledore’s initial comment in HPSS “curse marks can come in handy”… Dumbley also said “as long as the Horcruxe is out there, Voldy is in essence immortal…?? if that’s the case, then the prophecy might not mean Harry has to kill Voldy… rather, Harry has to kill Voldy AND then make the ULTIMATE sacrifice, much like his mother and father did. My ultimate prediction, then, is Harry will kill Voldy and then himself. (Oh, and he will forgive Snape)
• harry potter cannot be the horcrux. one thing is that as dumbledore had said, giving a fragment of a soul that can think for itself is inadvisable. plus, would you give something that is very precious to an enemy? also voldemort used the avada kedavra. dumbledore and the fake moody did say that the spell that caused the scar is the killing curse.
• As I read the HBP I could not think that the perfect Horcrux would be the House Cup that is awarded at the end of term. It is a very significant artifact of Hogwarts.
• I doubt the house cup is a horcrux beacuse people hold it and they probably would have been cursed like with Guant’s ring.
• If Harry tried to Summon the Horcrux then nothing should’ve happened because when Bellatrix tried to Summon the Prophecy she couldn’t because it was broken. Since that wasn’t a real Horcrux then nothing should have happened.
Posted on August 18, 2005 08:53 PM | #
Wait who said that the ring damaged Dumbldore’s hand?
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:19 PM | #
hmm interesting thought dumby’sman. it could have damaged it when he took it.. but that’s still a good question
Posted on August 18, 2005 09:52 PM | #
Ya I was thining more along the linesof got hurt while getting the ring. Not got hort weaing the ring…
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:11 PM | #
it never crossed my mind that he’d put the ring on. just took it, and put it in his pocket.. i think he got hurt getting it.. just who/what hurt him?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:12 PM | #
Remember Dumbledore said that LV put magical enchantments? I think that was what hurt him!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:17 PM | #
probably. but… this might not make sense.. but… hear me out.. ok, so wut if, dumbledore knew RAB, and knew they already had the locket, but had to take Harry to the cave, because the potion stuff was the Draught of the Living Dead, and that’s why he had to drink it all so it’d have it’s effect? he needed Harry to witness it, and to help him take him back so Snape could do his little fake spell… i just don’t know why Dumbledore wouldn’t tell harry that someone else was working with him..
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:23 PM | #
And yes that makes perfect sense and maybe Dumbldoe wantd Harry to know how it would be to get a Horcrux!
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:28 PM | #
yes, to show him.. how to look for magic, and wut not to touch, and to use common sense (like the use of water) … like a practice test thing
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:34 PM | #
anymore thoughts on my theory in 734. ??? anyone find it interesting and making sense??
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:40 PM | #
one more thing.. that’s why dumbledore said harry could go with him! he knew it would be safe for him. dumbledore would have never put harry into any kind of real danger i don’t think
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:48 PM | #
Yes, I’m an avid Harry Potter fan and I know nearly everything about the books, but you people have no lives! You spend all day writing your far-fetched opinions instead of enjoying the story in a normal way. For God’s sake!How on earth can Mrs. Figg be Dumbledore’s sister?
Posted on August 18, 2005 10:50 PM | #
you don’t know nearly everything about the books, there are many good points ppl have brought up on here.. altough yes some are very far fetched
Posted on August 18, 2005 11:02 PM | #
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Posted on August 19, 2005 01:47 AM | #
oh sorry must of been a dream kansas. Isn’t it obvious what were talking about dumbledore through and through??????????? It’s a rac for bonnie wright (ginny weasley)!
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:29 AM | #
race i meant, are u guy’s english like me cos if your not your sad to go on at 1 in the morning
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:30 AM | #
u guys dumbledore’s hand was totally useless to him if he knew he was going to “die”. i’m sure he knew what it would take to destroy the ring. there were enchantments and curses on it of course. voldy wasn’t just gonna leave it laying aroung in the gaunt house. dumbledore probably wanted to take the fastest way and intead of trying to unto curses he simply threw it on his hand. simply knowing that it would destroy it but at the same time he would have to sacrifice his own hand. i’m sure he regreted using his wand hand but he destroyed it. dumbledore knows what to do and knows what it takes to destroy a horcrux. like when he figured he had to simply drink the potion (whether it would keep him alive or not) that would be the logical and only way to get the potion out.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:35 AM | #
jay up there at post #id remember. u said that if harry and hermione were bro and sis that wouldn’t be important. of course it isn’t important. except for the fact that if voldemort ever found out about them the whole human world would be at stake. if he were to kill both of them, considering they’re his last desceandants, he would probably immediately be immortal. read the the idea explaining this at post 163 i think it is.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:50 AM | #
jack-ok sorry mister 2:30. that isn’t the time for most of us. we live in different time zones than where the website is located
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:11 AM | #
kansas, yes of course it is important now if he would know she was harry’s sister. but first of all shes harry’s best friend which means she is always in danger anyways. and second of all when voldermort was persumed dead, at that point there was no reason for who ever was holding the secret to keep it a secret. in fact when voldermort died it would be perfect for the one holding the secret to reveal so harry could be reunited with his siter. but the secret was never revealed then and that is why i dont think hermione is harry’s sister.
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:09 AM | #
I think dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him….But Snape didn’t enjoy or mean it…so its nothhing else…i mean dumby was supposed to die but snape couldn’t do it…fully
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:30 AM | #
At the end of the sixth book, they have one golden day left. The train is leaving an hour after the funeral, so, there may be something that happens on the way home, and that’s why it was left out, or you are supposed to assume nothing happens because it was leaving on the “golden day”
Peeves was never alive. He is only a spirit of chaos (said by JK Rowling). That is why only Peeves can interact with his environments, whereas the ghosts can’t.
Book seven is supposed to be a direct continuation of book six, so it may start right at Hermione, Ron, and Harry still walking along the lake, or it could be on the way home, or the next day or something.
The Bloody Baron always goes to the Astronomy tower, just so you know. I doubt he was killed by the sectemsempra, because Snape invented it, but the Baron is too old, I think.
Just because the person who plays Hagrid said “sorta” for playing in all 7 movies, doesn’t mean Hagrid dies. You have to remember, no one except JK knows what happens, therefore Hagrid won’t know either. I think Hargid has a possibility of dieing, but I think his giantess mother’s skin will protect him again in a fight and Hargid’s going to kill someone.
I think Dumby hurt his hand when destroying the ring. Snape saved his life somehow, and Dumby only lost his hand because of Snape.
Posted on August 19, 2005 07:22 AM | #
easter-cool, how ‘bout from now on u think of an idea instead of rejecting everybody else’s. it’s kind of hard to think of a good discussion maker
Posted on August 19, 2005 09:32 AM | #
hermione and harry brother and sister, who canme up with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gotta have same parents…
Posted on August 19, 2005 10:47 AM | #
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Posted on August 19, 2005 10:48 AM | #
lauren- like i said earlier. obviously mrguy was dropped on his head numerous times as a young child
Posted on August 19, 2005 11:01 AM | #
Harry is realted to Hermionie.
Posted on August 19, 2005 01:46 PM | #
i think that snape killed dumbledore with joy, snape is evil and devoted to the darkside. dumbledore is dead. harry will kill voldemort and kill himself at the same time.
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:11 PM | #
i don’t think they’re related… anyways, what does everyone think of Dumbledore knowing that the locket him and harry found wasn’t the real one, but he wanted Harry to go with him, because Dumbledore knew he would “die” and he needed to show Harry how to look for magic paths.. wut not to touch when looking for horcruxes.. etc. And the thing was the Draught of the Living Dead, and he needed harry to witness it, and also needed Harry to help him back to the school. And also HArry was surprised Dumby let him go with him to find the Horcruxe, because Dumbledore would’ve NEVER put HArry into any real danger.. (it was maybe like a practice test.. or something)
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:19 PM | #
All of that is untrue! Snape has to be good. I mean Dumbledore even says ‘to the well organized mind, death is the next great adventure’ And Dumbledore has to have the most organized mind ever! Severus… Severus…please. Dumbledore is pleading with Snape to kill him! Dumbledore isn’t afraid of death! And Harry won’t die killing Voldermort!
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:19 PM | #
ya, in ALL the books people suspect Snape for something and for being evil.. but also following those accusations, it always says.. DUMBLEDORE TRUSTS SNAPE… so obviously Snape isn’t really evil.. or he woouldn’t be part of the Order anyways
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:21 PM | #
one more thing following the post in #760, Sape hesistated when saying the avada kedavra, because he knew how powerful it was, and was afraid that wutever spell he was saying in his head might not work.. therefore he was scared he might actually kill dumbledore.
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:27 PM | #
Ya I said that…
Posted on August 19, 2005 02:37 PM | #
snape must be as good a wizard as voldemort and dumbledore too gain both of their trust. i am trully in 2 minds to which side he is on. But i know that dumbledore is dead
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:02 PM | #
Yes I agree Snape is an exceptional wizard. Snape is good! I mean you know it! Just trust us. He is good. and Dumbledore isn’t dead…
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:13 PM | #
this is going back a bit but does anyone remember in the fourth book when ppl were coming out of voldermorts wand. first came cedric then an old man then a women from the ministry(forgot her name) and then harrys parents. does anyone know who the old man was?
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:16 PM | #
Ya the guy from the dream in the beggining of the book. The gardener!
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:17 PM | #
i dont remember why he was killed. i have start reading all the books again
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:19 PM | #
i think that if snaoe is eveil he is just as good a wizard as albus and voldemort, but he’s not on either of their sides. he is a death eater (death stealer) i think that the eaters are going to follow in voldemort’s footsteps and attemp to becaome immortal like him. but snape believes there are easier and better ways to become immortal. “a potion that can even put a stopper in death.” he is not on voldemort’s side beacause he believes there are less evil ways to become immortal. once immortal he will kill voldemort and redeem himself witha ll of the glory he has always been after.-but his is only if he is evil. well is he evil if he’s plotting to kill voldy?w/e
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:19 PM | #
If Snape is evil then why will he kill Voldie? HE IS GOOD!
Posted on August 19, 2005 03:25 PM | #
Loved the book, love some of your theories. I’m not going to embelish or dream up more theories, I’m here with a question that doesn’t seem to have been asked yet and I would appreciate your views.
Chapter 21 - The Unknowable Room. Harry is in the common room looking for a way of getting the memory from Slughorn, Ron, sitting with him, is writing his essay for Snape and Hermione is complaining about the Half Blood Prince’s scribbles in Harry’s potions book. On page 442 Kreacher and Dobby Apperate to give Harry their reports on Malfoy and then Disapperate (p.425).
When was anyone allowed to apperate in the castle or grounds of Hogwarts ? I was under the impression that the Death Eaters entered the castle by way of the vanishing cupboard, because they could not Apperate. Also on page 359 Twycross, the Apperation teacher says “As you may know it is usually impossible to Apperate or Disapperate within Hogwarts. The Headmaster has lifted this enchantment, purely within the Great Hall, for one hour”. So how did they do it ?
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:02 PM | #
hey.. i totally forgot about that! therefore dumbledore could have apperated or disapperated (if he was on the tomb) when it lit on fire… so that theory wasn’t “complete crap” dumby’s man.
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:15 PM | #
Well house elves are very powerful magical creatures. They can probably even though the enchantment is there…
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:18 PM | #
then so can dumbledore prbly, since he too is very powerful
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:20 PM | #
BUT Dumbledore isn’t a house elf! Unless you are saying he is…jk rofl. However powerful he maybe he can’t cuz he is a house elf…
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:44 PM | #
Remember it was Dumbledore who cast all the charms on Hogwarts in the first place ;)
Posted on August 19, 2005 04:49 PM | #
OHHHHH! So you are saing that Dumbledore might have tken off the enchantment while falling! That is a possbility…
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:11 PM | #
it might not have been while he was falling.. but he did take of the enchantment when they entered the grounds on the brooms..
Posted on August 19, 2005 05:35 PM | #
That was only the enchantment for the entrance, there are many enchantments throughout the grounds and castle, but it still doesn’t answer my question about the houseelves….or maybe they are just very magical !!
Posted on August 19, 2005 06:06 PM | #
My believe is still that Dumby is in some way still alive and and Snape is still good. The reason as to why Dumby trusts Severus is to be revealed in 7. I think the fact that Dumby is an animagus (presummeably a pheonix) will be important, and also the fact that Dumby is able to become invisble without an invisibility cloak will also be important.
Snape is a really powerful wizard (probably just as powerful as Voldemort). James and Sirius were also really powerful (James stronger of course), but Snape said that James and Sirius would only attack 4 on 1.
I’ve always thought that Dumby was a lot stronger than Voldy. Voldy fears only death, where as Dumby only seems to fear … ummm … Harry getting hurt? (I don’t really know) … I think Dumby staged the horcruxe search thing, because as someone allready said, I doubt Dumby would risk Harry’s life.
It says that the house-elves can apparate because they use a different kind of magic. House-elves use very powerful magic that wizards don’t use or something. That’s why they can apparate, and btw, so can Fawkes.